@alexonit@twtxt.alessandrocutolo.it Well we have to really use the same spec or threading doesn’t really work in a truly decentralized manner 😉

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah, you gotta love when a “totally real decentralized protocol” does that. How are they doing this and still pretending to be one, is beyond me.

Did you know about @panoramax@panoramax , “a federation offering geolocated street-level pictures”?

Pictures are offered through a decentralized architecture, with a set of free and open-source tools. In other words, it is “like a self-hosted Street View” that does not impose its own app and gives you the right to fork the server.

#fediverse #osm

My Hypothesis for why registries didn’t work and why they still won’t really work today is because the bend the rules of “true” decentralization a bit. Users have to pick one or more registries to “register” to. Why would they want to do this? What is their incentive to do so? Then on the other hand, users need a client that has registry support, but now which registry or sets of registries do you choose?

I asked ChatGPT what it knows about Twtxt 😂 And surprisingly it’s rather accurate:

Twtxt is a minimalist, decentralized microblogging format introduced by John Downey in 2016. It uses plain text files served over HTTP—no accounts, databases, or APIs.
In 2020, James Mills (@prologic@twtxt.net) launched Yarn.social, an extended, federated implementation with user discovery, threads, mentions, and a full web UI.
Both share the same .twtxt.txt format but differ in complexity and social features.

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz ngircd is nice: https://ngircd.barton.de/ You can absolutely host this on your server for you and your friends (I’ve been doing that for a very long time). Actually peering with something like libera is hard, though, because they have strict requirements and a lot of traffic. Then again, there’s no real benefit in peering, actually. IRC is pretty “decentralized” anyway and people are usually used to connecting to several networks, so joining another one isn’t a big deal, imho. 🙃

Yes you were right. It was technically a failure. It is very difficult to reconcile the differences between a distributed network and one that’s truly decentralized.

[ANN] Istanbul Monero Meetup - Monero ve Dağıtık Borsalara Erişim: RetoSwap

Date/Time: Thursday, January 30, 2025 6:00 PM to 9:00 PM GMT+3
Location: Altcointurk Trader Base & Cloak Blockchain Academy

MoneroTurko is hosting a Monero Meetup event in Istanbul to discuss Decentralized Exchanges and how it affects Monero.

Link: https://www.meetup.com/moneroturko-istanbul/events/305699269

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@aelaraji@aelaraji.com It’s mybe because of their (pixelfed) app release, a few days ago!? https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/14/decentralized-instagram-alternative-pixelfed-launches-mobile-apps/

BenraouaneSoufiane submits CCS proposal to launch CryptoCheckout ‘email marketing campaign’
BenraouaneSoufiane1 has submitted a second CCS proposal2 looking to launch an email marketing campaign for the CryptoCheckout 3 project in an effort to onboard new users:

CryptoCheckout is a secure simple decentralized crypto payment gateway, enable merchants to accept crypto payments on their websites. CryptoCheckout integrates monero in … ⌘ Read more

@prologic@twtxt.net I recommend its Wikipedia entry is edited then, if you are completely certain.

“Bluesky is a decentralized microblogging social media service primarily operated by Bluesky Social, PBC.”

That I know of, you can run the PDS, and pretty much everything else.

I think it’s centralized shit with lying about decentralization. All network is worked by two centralized things: plc.directory (did storage?) and network relay (bsky.network). You can host your relay but this require TOO MUCH resources (2TB storage and 32GB RAM read more ). Also i try running PDS and: 1. I can’t register account via app,only via cli 2. It leaked on 2GB virtual machine then killed by oom after trying to register account via cli

Jack Dorsey’s Block Scraps ‘Web5’ Project
Block will abandon development of its Web5 decentralized internet project and reduce investment in music streaming service Tidal to focus on bitcoin mining hardware and self-custody wallets, the payments company announced in its third-quarter letter to shareholders. The Jack Dorsey-led firm cited strong market demand for its bitcoin mining products and Bitkey wallet as key drivers behind the st … ⌘ Read more

After the behaviour of a clearly very angry feed author over the past few days, I’m very tempted to give up on Twtxt and allow it to go back to being dead. What really is the point of building and supporting a way to exchange little pieces of text with one another in a completely decentralized way, if you’re just going to keep bumping up against such hostility? I don’t know why I do this anymore.

@doesnm@doesnm.p.psf.lt What do you think of when you say “decentralized”?

@doesnm@doesnm.p.psf.lt salty.im needs a lot more work 🤞it is however designed to be 1000% decentralized 👌

I think salty.im is simplest than simplex. But attempt to implement this i have problems than salty cli cant decrypt messages from another saltpack realization (and reverse) . Also simplex is more decentralized (like nostr?)

Thanks @prologic@twtxt.net, I also just manage to get my own version of webmentions working. Please have a read at Webmentions vs. Custom Mentions Spec for Twtxt/Yarn - HedgeDoc and User Lookup for Twtxt/Yarn - Webfinger or Decentralized Identifiers (DIDs) - HedgeDoc for how it sorta works

Did another write up on #webfinger and DIDs for twtxt/yarn that you can read and edit/comment in: User lookup for twtxt/yarn - Webfinger or Decentralized Identifiers (DIDs) - HedgeDoc

Estou algo apreensivo quanto aos planos da Mozilla para o fediverso, não sei o que acham

“Why Mozilla is betting on a decentralized social networking future”

https://techcrunch.com/2023/11/03/why-mozilla-is-betting-on-a-decentralized-social-networking-future/?guccounter=1

So the news is telling me, Bluesky is the hottest new decentralized thing, with parole waiting month to join, or buying invite codes of ebay, for thousands of dollars.

Yet there’s not one other instance out there, for people to join this decentralized paradise. Idk, just sounds a little sussy to me.

I know there was stems.social, but when people tried joining it, they cried “abuse” and shut it down - so no, it doesn’t count.

@prologic@twtxt.net That was exactly my thought at first too. but what do we put as the rel for salty account? since it is decentralized we dont have a set URL for machines to key off. so for example take the standard response from okta:

# http GET https://example.okta.com/.well-known/webfinger  resource==acct:bob
{
    "links": [
        {
            "href": "https://example.okta.com/sso/idps/OKTA?login_hint=bob#",
            "properties": {
                "okta:idp:type": "OKTA"
            },
            "rel": "http://openid.net/specs/connect/1.0/issuer",
            "titles": {
                "und": "example"
            }
        }
    ],
    "subject": "acct:bob"
}

It gives one link that follows the OpenID login. So the details are specific to the subject acct:bob.

Mastodons response:

{
  "subject": "acct:xuu@chaos.social",
  "aliases": [
    "https://chaos.social/@xuu",
    "https://chaos.social/users/xuu"
  ],
  "links": [
    {
      "rel": "http://webfinger.net/rel/profile-page",
      "type": "text/html",
      "href": "https://chaos.social/@xuu"
    },
    {
      "rel": "self",
      "type": "application/activity+json",
      "href": "https://chaos.social/users/xuu"
    },
    {
      "rel": "http://ostatus.org/schema/1.0/subscribe"
    }
  ]
}

it supplies a profile page and a self which are both specific to that account.

I decided to become popular in decentralized social networks. 1. Pixelfed: https://pixelfed.social/win0err — mostly landscape photography; 2. Mastodon: https://mastodon.online/@win0err — software engineering content

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I do wonder how we could build a decentralized way to do this 🤔

@prologic@twtxt.net sorry about the spelling mistakes. English is my third language.
Also I didn’t mean to question the vision as such.
Just ment a mobile up that pulls in files directly from the users follow list would line up better with the idea of decentralizing personal data. Since not everyone will be running a pod, but most everyone can have a public facing folder. Specially now with services like Skynet coming online.
Sorry hope I didn’t offend you too much.

Bookmarked : Cwtch - Decentralized, Surveillance Resistant Infrastructure ⌘ Read more

decentralized P2P messaging platform that works on a LAN. [[https://briarproject.org/]] #links

Any of y’all seen https://briarproject.org? It’s another fledgling decentralized chat like session but minus the weird blockchain.. it has group chat, forums, and blogs. Also can work via Bluetooth or tor.

briar://aaeutr6pvvr5pgachwlajy5x372xxjvs6btsmmk5kr4ygzps3k3eu

Matrix vs. XMPP

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XMPP and Matrix are two decentralized and federated free sofware projects for chat, including true end-to-end encrypted chat.

Users can either install the software on their own server if they want, but they can also easily register on any public server—both allow any XMPP or Matrix user to talk to users on their server or on any other one. In essence, it works like email: you might have an em … ⌘ Read more

Redditors Launch A ‘Rescue Mission’ For Embattled Sci-Hub, With The Ultimate Aim Of Building A Decentralized Version | isn’t that a great challenge for the fediverse? ⌘ Read more…

a decentralized community !zet. individual zet feeds could be managed using something like git/git submodules, then built locally into self-contained SQLite files. zet items would be referenced by their zet nickname and UUID. #halfbakedideas

@prologic@twtxt.net it is some interesting work to decentralize all the things.. tricky part is finding tooling. i am using a self hacked version of the go openpgp library. A tool to add and remove notations would need to be local since it needs your private key.

@prologic@twtxt.net this is a go version of Keyoxide.org that runs all server side. which is based on work from https://metacode.biz/openpgp/

OpenPGP has a part of the self signature reserved for notatinal data. which is basically a bunch of key/values.

this site tries to emulate the identity proofs of keybase but in a more decentralized/federation way.

my next steps are to have this project host WKD keys which is kinda like a self hosting of your pgp key that are also discoverable with http requests.

then to add a new notation for following other keys. where you can do a kind of web of trust.

interesting challenged to remaining decentralized: Challenges in the Decentralised Web: The Mastodon Case http://www.eecs.qmul.ac.uk/~tysong/files/Mastodon.pdf

This is incredible. Simple. Text. Decentralized :-)

Posted to Entropy Arbitrage: Distributed Community Curation https://john.colagioia.net/blog/programming/2020/04/25/distribmod.html #programming #decentralization #socialmedia #moderation #community #cultivation #curation #socialshowdown

decentralize!

GitHub - scipr-lab/zexe: Rust library for decentralized private computation https://github.com/scipr-lab/zexe

Three protocols and a future of the decentralized internet https://blog.datproject.org/2019/03/22/three-protocols-and-a-future-of-the-decentralized-internet/

why are there so many decentralized social media projects that aren’t well known and haven’t been worked on in a few years

GitHub - orbitdb/orbit-db: Peer-to-Peer Databases for the Decentralized Web https://github.com/orbitdb/orbit-db

Planning a Decentralized Mesh Wi-Fi Network http://darknetmap.zone42.ca/

On Emergent Centralization · Field Notes https://fieldnotes.resistant.tech/defensive-decentralization/

Any thoughts about decentralized ways to discover twtxt users? I’ve set up https://codevoid.de/tw.following.txt which is my following list plus whatever comes in via user-agent. If everybody would set this up with the with an added .following we could fetch each others list and discover users that way.

@freemor@freemor.homelinux.net This is completely contrary to what people want. People don’t care about how something works. They want to use something that’s premade and that they can use without learning anything about it. Decentralization is a technical Detail, nobody cares about. Just like security or freedom. It’s all nice to have if it comes for free, no time investment and no convenience cuts. So the only way to establich decentralization is by making it better, cheaper and easier to use than centralized services. #sadtruth

Vision for a new, truly decentralized Web | Empowering People. Uniting Communities. https://qbix.com/blog/2018/08/28/vision-for-a-new-truly-decentralized-web/

In The Mesh - Scuttlebutt, A Decentralized Alternative To Facebook https://www.inthemesh.com/archive/secure-scuttlebutt-facebook-alternative/

Decentralization Dilemma — Molus https://www.molus.org/blog/decentralization-dilemma/

Decentralization 2017 https://rbs.io/2017/12/decentralization-2017/

https://taravancil.com/blog/how-merkle-trees-enable-decentralized-web/

Decentralized PayPal should be a thing. But money is probably not hackerish enough.

@kas@enotty.dk But then we wouldn’t be a decentralized network anymore. Or do i misunderstand the nature of keybase?

@kas@enotty.dk But then we wouldn’t be a decentralized network anymore. Or do i misunderstand the nature of keybase?

Decentralize E-Mail? ?~L~X https://notiz.blog/b/3xB