@prologic@twtxt.net that if we want to get more people using twtxt/yarn, mastodon, ssb, matrix etc. etc. we should focus on making sure these alternative solve social problems that they understand and care about instead of just talking about the technological aspects

Good read of on the perspective of decentralize social form the common folks: https://werd.io/2023/this-moment-isnt-about-decentralization

@adi@twtxt.net good to be reminded https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypr18UmxOas

@carsten@yarn.zn80.net I’m still getting back to nvAlt and Sublime Text for over 10 years of trying different apps. The txt/md files are stored in Dropbox so I can always get to them and on my android using Simple Text

@movq@www.uninformativ.de good stuff

@chunkimo@twtxt.net you can put your $$$ here: https://opencollective.com/yarnsocial

@prologic@twtxt.net something for you?

Are #apple #macos users here who would want to test one of the submissions to the #game jam for #blind gamers?
It’s the only one that didn’t get any ratings yet, and that’s just sad to see. It looks like a pretty nice blind-friendly 3D stealth system:
https://itch.io/jam/games-for-blind-gamers-2/rate/2043905

Via: https://rollenspiel.social/@ArneBab/110308477144931971

@marado@twtxt.net wow someone is follow this mess I’m marking – yes I like this one too.

@rrraksamam@twtxt.net like how? There are some settings for images under look and feel. Are you using inline or lightbox?

@chunkimo@twtxt.net Try clearing you cookies or in another browser to see if you still get the error

Actually the trash-icon could just replace the mute-icon since you would never need to mute your own posts, right?

@carsten@yarn.zn80.net Like this?

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Should be fixed now in and can be downloaded from: https://github.com/sorenpeter/yellow-twtxt

@kevin@oh.mg All right so the problem is that + are converted to spaces in URLs.

It would be better if you used Z instead of +00:00 in your twtxt.txt, but editing this for existing posts will break threading (which you do not seem to use anyway).

I can also try to make a fix, so +00:00 is stripped from the links.

@chunkimo@twtxt.net It’s not that much work to setup a pod, but selfhosting your twtxt.txt is easier, but then you will be lacking a UI for reading and posting.

I’m self-hosting this feed and displaying it on my site and got a post and image upload feature going using my own php-tools. You can learn more about it on http://darch.dk/social

There are also terminal base solicitous, such as @movq@www.uninformativ.de’s jenny and @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org’s tt

@prologic@twtxt.net yes, just build it on a dev environment and uploaded the files to my website before uploading the files to GitHub. I got it running on http://darch.dk/social

@prologic@twtxt.net Come to think about it, I’m more in favor of @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org ’s approach; Make it human readable with relevant links and not do anything specific for the machines. This is almost already the case for twtxt.txt served by yarnd, we just need to add a line to the Yarn.social section explaining about the extensions.

If you delete the +00:00 part form the URL it works: https://sus.fr/en/social/twtxt/?id=2021-08-02T19:02:37

Ah, I what the problem is now: You are using +00:00 instead of Z in the end of the datetime. I’m sure +00:00 can be supported as well as Z, but if you are up for it take a look at the source code if you are not allergenic to PHP

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org i don’t have much more than this. But I agree to keep it simple. I like your approach.

@kevin@oh.mg 🤩 not sure about the view for individual post… Will you open at issue on github about it?

@kevin@oh.mg cool, i have actually not tried to install it myself yet on a fresh yellow install. Let me know how it goes🍋

@prologic@twtxt.net use zzome cssleep

@prologic@twtxt.net yes, but I don’t got the time…😅

It should have stayed “… so it wouldn’t be everywhere”

I’m 4 hour delay on my train trip home from the Netherlands and will first be in bed after 02😴

@prologic@twtxt.net and it even looks okay on mobile without any extra work, but it does not like long names:

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@prologic@twtxt.net I think both me and @carsten@yarn.zn80.net are both only talking about getting a delete bottom, not edit besides on the latest post.

UI wise I would only put it under one’s own profile or even only under settings, so it will. It be everywhere.

Working on improving how the External feeds under /feeds looks: https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/yarn/commits/branch/feed-list

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The idea is to use the design for /following and /followers too and use it for a base for other lists down the line.

@prologic@twtxt.net Yes, but how can it be done?

This should be an option to do this in the web gui and not only via the yarnc terminal client or API.

@marado@twtxt.net obrigado 🙏

An idea for helping humans and machines understand when a twtxt-feed are using some of the yarn.social extensions by applying a mix of a hash-bang and a DTD to the first line of the txt-file:

#! DOCTYPE = twtxt (https://twtxt.readthedocs.io) with extension for multi-line and conversation treading from Yarn.social (https://dev.twtxt.net)

It would be nice if the link to the extension could be to dev.yarn.social, docs.yarn.social or similar instead of dev.twtxt.net to make it less confusing.

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci is it fiction, made up

All art is a lie. But the art-ifical can point our attention and experience towards (a/the?) truth which cannot been seen or heard in the natural world

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org thanks for bringing it to my attention. I have unfollowed your archive feed now

The “problem” as I see it is not technical, but social, so we should try to approach solving it according.

I’m with @abucci@anthony.buc.ci here. Let’s enjoy our freedom to listen i.e. not pay too much attention to people how argue for the sake of arguing.

A way around their criticism choud be to put a disclaimer in our twtxt.txts stating that this feed uses features that might not be compatible with some clients. Like the old “Best viewed in Netscape”-icons

@prologic@twtxt.net Having to deal with json and cryptography is not very appealing to me. It’s the simplicity and hackability of twtxt.txt that I’m drawn by. That you can in fact handwrite your posts and you can throw pretty much anything at it after the datetime+tab and it still being somewhat human readable and work in most clients. If you do something that a client does not like, then you will have to take up the debate with the devs or make your own. And if people like some features that you invented, then your new client might get more users, or your end up doing something just or for yourself.

@prologic@twtxt.net Also considering the original tagline of twtxt:

twtxt is a decentralised, minimalist microblogging service for hackers.

if a hacker can’t handle some markdown and urls in their microblogging, then user != hacker

This is a nice idea: Suggestion: a convention for multiline statuses (line breaks) · Issue #157 · buckket/twtxt – But it would break out treading model with (#hash)

I don’t buy jan6’s premise that twts with markdown and image links is hard to read. Markdown came out of how people simulated typeset text in plain text and the URL part of links to images and others resources are also easy for humans to read and parse.

Multi-line is another matter, but I also never used the original client. I guess it could have been implemented in a was that would not break other clients. Using something like -- or just two space at the end of a line like in markdown would also work.

@shreyan@twtxt.net and @shreyan-jains-blog@shreyanjain.net you are welcome:)

@prologic@twtxt.net it does one thing well and is modular

interesting talk about #webfinger

Blaine Cook, Webfinger and “social solutions to tech problems” (Part 1) - YouTube
Blaine Cook, Webfinger and “social solutions to tech problems” (Part 2) - YouTube

@shreyan@twtxt.net Got it working now – just needed to figure out the right URL: http://darch.dk/wp-test/twtxt

1. Download zip from https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-twtxt/archive/refs/heads/master.zip
   
2. Unzip it and rename the folder from wordpress-twtxt-master to just twtxt
   
3. Log in via FTP and upload the twtxt folder to: wp-content/plugins/
   
4. Go to http://example.com/wp-admin/plugins.php and activate the plugin
   
5. Wait a bit or swap themes to get it to render the twtxt feed
   
6. Access the twtxt file via this URL: http://example.com/twtxt (no .txt!)

Hmm I can’t make it work either… Maybe open an issue on https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-twtxt

@shreyan@twtxt.net have you tried this? How to install a WordPress Plugin from a downloaded zip file - YouTube

What about a PineBook or PineTab with a keybord: https://pine64.com

@axodys@octobloc.xyz I’m also a happy user of NetNewsWire in combinations with self-hosted FreshRSS as a backed to sync to other devices besides my Mac. And migrating my YouTube subscriptions to RSS is such a nicer experiance than being locking into the dark design patterns of YouTube’s web UI.

@carsten@yarn.zn80.net sehr toll

Finally gotten around to making a twtxt extention for for the Yellow CMS by Datenstrom

It is live on http://darch.dk/social and can be download from github