@abucci@anthony.buc.ci about being Turing complete, do you think that’s still something useful?

I mean, we could define Brainfuck as Turing complete, and we have strong discussions on the subject https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/a/315924

IMO newcomers don’t want the most optimized and engineered way to code, but what’s easier to start with. If a Spreadsheet allows me to calculate something, that’s a programming language for them!

Im trying to be empathic with the learning curve. I don’t like the verb code as a synonym of programming, but I need an English word for: “Being able to make a computer do what I want”, code is the interface for that