↳ In-reply-to » @prologic idk I tend to think that "reading something on some random person's web site" and "telling some random person where I live to within a mile or two" ought to be distinct things I get to choose independently....

@prologic@twtxt.net

So it comes down to who you trust [more], your ISP or your VPN provider(s)?

My VPN provider, 100%. I’ve talked about my ISP in the past.

Besides, I don’t need to trust them as much as my ISP. Under normal circumstances, this is the important information that your ISP can know about you:

• All of your personal information, down to a home address
  
• The IP addresses to which you’re connecting
  
• Information leaked by unencrypted traffic (DNS queries, etc.)
  

As long as the VPN provider doesn’t require any personal information, and mine doesn’t, you’re making it so no single party has all of that information. The IP address cloaking is an added benefit for me.

You still leak your IP address with that TURN server however.

If your WebRTC implementation isn’t broken, the TURN server sees your traffic as coming from the VPN server, just like any thing else you connect to through that tunnel. It’s the same story if I open a port and make a direct p2p connection.