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The problem isn't with NodeJS or NPM, it's the developers that are so willing to use horrible frameworks/libraries/tooling that is just simply not needed. NodeJS gives you so much out of the box, and NPM is simply a place to store your packages. With Deno, you won't even need a package manager as it takes a step closer to go modules approach.
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@prologic@twtxt.net and with some people who decide to break them to destroy thousand of projects in a couple minutes…