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Ask HN: Why is the HN crowd so anti-AI?
Genuine question.

Over the past six months, there hasn’t been a single day where I’ve checked the HN Best RSS feed without seeing a post about how AI “writes bad code,” “introduces bugs,” “creates technical debt,” or something along those lines.

I’ll probably make a lot of enemies by saying this, but do people realize that code is just a means to an end?

Users don’t care whether the code was written by AI or by hand, or which framework you used. They care that the product works.

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This Summer Travel Season Could Forever Alter the Future of Sustainable Aviation Fuel
As the conflict in Iran disrupts the world’s oil supply, airlines are looking for jet fuel alternatives. The answer: energy from used cooking oil and french fry grease. ⌘ Read more

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↳ In-reply-to » Now that is an interesting move:

@prologic@twtxt.net As have I. đŸ€” I mean, since I left GitHub, I got basically 0 pull requests anyway.

Even during my time using GitHub, I noticed that “drive-by PRs” are rarely a good idea. People don’t really know/understand the code or the design principles/goals, so I often turned down PRs. Or I accepted them and was grumpy afterwards. 😅

What does work is having a team of maintainers/devs. The only question is: How do you build such a team if you don’t accept PRs? That’s going to be the interesting part.

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Yoghurt store mural of Brisbane skyline at centre of legal AI art dispute
An illustrator claims one of her original works was used as a mural in the frozen yoghurt shop without her permission, before being replaced with an AI version. ⌘ Read more

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‘AI is insidious’: Universities urged to adopt clear AI rules after opinion article scandal
Universities should set standards for academics using AI and require a guarantee work is “human-authored” before publication, a former university chancellor says. ⌘ Read more

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Not to Alarm Anyone, but Flesh-Eating Screwworms Have Entered the US
The USDA this week confirmed the first known infection of the carnivorous fly larva, which feast on the flesh of living mammals, after the United States eradicated the nightmare bugs in the 1960s. ⌘ Read more

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Show HN: Mercek – A Desktop IDE for AWS ECS
Hey HN
I’ve been using ECS for a while now and found it annoying having to log into the console everytime

I use Lens for Kubernetes but couldnt find an equivalent for ECS so i built one!

The project is open source as well
https://github.com/utibeabasi6/mercek

Comments URL: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48404732

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Plot to smuggle Queensland fugitive bikie to Indonesia foiled
Three people have been charged over their alleged roles in a plan to smuggle the alleged outlaw motorcycle gang member from Western Australia using a luxury yacht. ⌘ Read more

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Video of nurses allegedly making antisemitic threats could be thrown out of court
Defence lawyers for two nurses accused of making antisemitic threats say it would be a devastating blow for the prosecution’s case if a video isn’t able to be used in court. ⌘ Read more

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‘She never responded’: Daughter tells murder trial of fear when mother went silent
Priscilla Brooten, a former beauty queen in the US, disappeared from her Brisbane home in July 2018. Her body has never been found. ⌘ Read more

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‘She never responded’: Daughter tells murder trial of fear when mother went silent
Priscilla Brooten, a former beauty queen in the US, disappeared from her Brisbane home in July 2018. Her body has never been found. ⌘ Read more

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Video of nurses allegedly making antisemitic threats could be thrown out of court
Defence lawyers for two nurses accused of making antisemitic threats say it would be a devastating blow for the prosecution’s case if a video isn’t able to be used in court. ⌘ Read more

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‘She never responded’: Daughter tells murder trial of fear when mother went silent
Priscilla Brooten, a former beauty queen in the US, disappeared from her Brisbane home in July 2018. Her body has never been found. ⌘ Read more

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OpenAI and Anthropic Sign Letter to Prevent AI-Developed Biological Weapons
Leading AI labs, executives, and scientists are sending a letter to lawmakers urging them to improve tracking of synthetic DNA sequences that could be used for bioweapons. ⌘ Read more

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Greg Bovino Was the Star at a European Remigration Conference
The man who headed Trump’s invasions of US cities joined the US and European far-right in Portugal to preach “remigration”—a plan to expel all minorities and immigrants. ⌘ Read more

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Okay. I have lost the “battle” against “AI” at work and I will no longer try to “fight” any of it.

It is simply what people want. They want to use it. And that’s the end of it.

And why do they want it? Because it makes their job easier. And why is that? In very large parts, it’s because we have accumulated a metric fuckton of technical debt due to decades long mismanagement. We were (and are) operating in “emergency mode” all the time. There simply was no time to clean things up or to rethink designs. We always have to go with the cheapest and quickest solution. We are never ahead of things: Earlier this year, I started an initiative and wanted to tackle some issue that I could see coming. I was shut down because this wasn’t “urgent”. Very soon after, this exact thing became that exact problem – but now, there was no time anymore to do it properly because NOW it’s urgent, so, once again, we had to go with a quick and dirty solution.

It’s always like that and I had brought it up again and again. And now we have a huge spaghetti mess that hardly anyone understands anymore.

Nobody – except AI. It can still make some sense of this and, obviously, this is useful to people.

So, any argument I make against AI is completely pointless to begin with. I’m such a fool for not having seen this earlier.

The last argument I made today was: “Look, we already have so much technical debt and spaghetti systems, we really, really must clean this up. If we throw AI on top of this now, it’ll only get so much worse.” And once more, I was shut down. My intentions were “admirable”, but “there’s no time for that”.

Okay. Good luck with that. They’ll keep doing it this way. At some point, it’ll either explode entirely and some poor soul has to clean it up, or it’ll explode and they’ll have no other choice but to throw everything away and start from scratch – assuming they can still afford that.

In other words, none of this about AI, really, nor caused by it. Our department’s massive spike in AI usage is just a symptom of the underlying management issues. And since those aren’t being addressed, nothing will change and this whole mess will only get worse.

(I blame all this on management, because, well, that’s who’s to blame. I do not have a solution for it, though – and assigning blame without constructive criticism always sucks big time. I don’t like doing this. If you had put me into that particular management position, I wouldn’t have been able to solve any of this. The thing is, though, I’m not an expert on management and it isn’t my job – I’m just the “princess” who solves your technical issues.)

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Push to include AI chatbots in Australia’s under-16 social media ban
Cyber experts concerned about unregulated AI chatbots linked to a series of mass tragedies in the US are pushing for them to be included in Australia’s under-16 social media ban. ⌘ Read more

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‘Odd choices of words’: How an academic’s AI use was exposed by her peers
Western Sydney University has acknowledged that the opinion piece, published by this masthead, was AI-generated using the author’s previous work. ⌘ Read more

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Australia news LIVE: US-Iran peace talks at a stalemate as hostilities flare in Middle East; Solomon Islands PM arrives at Parliament House
Follow along as we bring you the latest live updates from Australia and beyond here on our national news blog. ⌘ Read more

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‘Thankful to be alive’: Zumba instructor accused of killing girlfriend faces new trial
Handwritten notes made by a US citizen before she suspiciously disappeared have been read to a jury as part of a second trial for her accused killer. ⌘ Read more

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Uni academic admits she used AI to write opinion piece in defence of AI
Western Sydney University has acknowledged that the opinion piece, published by this masthead, was AI-generated using the author’s previous work. ⌘ Read more

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Uni academic admits she used AI to write opinion piece in defence of AI
Western Sydney University has acknowledged that the opinion piece, published by this masthead, was AI-generated using the author’s previous work. ⌘ Read more

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Australia news LIVE: US-Iran peace talks at a stalemate as hostilities flare in Middle East; Solomon Islands PM arrives at Parliament House
Follow along as we bring you the latest live updates from Australia and beyond here on our national news blog. ⌘ Read more

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Uni academic admits she used AI to write opinion piece in defence of AI
Western Sydney University has acknowledged that the opinion piece, published by this masthead, was AI-generated using the author’s previous work. ⌘ Read more

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Australia news LIVE: US-Iran peace talks at a stalemate as hostilities flare in Middle East; Solomon Islands PM arrives at Parliament House
Follow along as we bring you the latest live updates from Australia and beyond here on our national news blog. ⌘ Read more

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Australia news LIVE: US-Iran peace talks at a stalemate as hostilities flare in Middle East; Solomon Islands PM arrives at Parliament House
Follow along as we bring you the latest live updates from Australia and beyond here on our national news blog. ⌘ Read more

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Australia news LIVE: US-Iran peace talks at a stalemate as hostilities flare in Middle East; Solomon Islands PM arrives at Parliament House
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↳ In-reply-to » @movq It's the "Lyse types the entire HTML by hand" generator. Yes, no kidding. I write articles so rarely, that I can do that once in a while. It's fun to some degree, but also not.

Years ago, I used Kate, no, not somebody’s wife, but the KDE Advanced Text Editor, to export source code files and fragments into HTML with syntax highlighting. I think that’s where I got the initial <b> idea from. There were also bucketloads of <span style='color:#644a9b;'> all over the place, even inside <b>. No CSS classes defined upfront, all colors inlined. The final rendering in the browser looked great, but the source code ugly as hell in my opinion. However, I’m thankful for hinting me at <b>. I think this kicked off everything. :-)

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↳ In-reply-to » @lyse By the way, which site generator are you using? I kind of miss having code blocks with syntax highlighting and that generic yellow highlighting thing is pretty cool, too.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de It’s the “Lyse types the entire HTML by hand” generator. Yes, no kidding. I write articles so rarely, that I can do that once in a while. It’s fun to some degree, but also not.

After some time, I finally recorded some Vim macros to insert <b>
</b>, <var>
</var>, <span class=s>
</span> etc. around the tokens. This helped a little bit. But I was still questioning my mental state doing it like that. I also had to fix a bunch of the end tags by hand, because the word movement wasn’t enough or the end movement went too far. Quite the annoying process for sure.

But I think the HTML looks a wee bit nicer and is maybe even semantically a little bit better than having only <span>s everywhere. I find the <span class="whatever"> just soo awfully long. Of course, I never look at the code again, but knowing, that e.g. there is a <b> and it saves so many bytes in comparison, makes me happy. It is a more elegant solution in my opinion. Not by much, but better nonetheless. It’s a matter of simplicity. Admittedly, even I can’t avoid the <span>s alltogether. Oh well. On the other hand, I’m sure that this does not make any difference whatsoever. I bet, nobody and nothing, like a screenreader, analyzes the HTML for that, where this would be truly useful.

Oh! Maybe text browsers, though. It just occurred to me while composing this reply. :-) Haha, I lost my bet quickly. w3m picks up at least the <b> for keywords and builtin types, <u> for filenames and <i> for comments. Yey. No different styles for <var> and <mark>, unfortunately. elinks only renders the bold. It’s cool that I had the right intuition right from the beginning, despite being unable to pinpoint it. :-)

All the <span> hell with common syntax highlighters is a downer for me that keeps me from looking more into them. If I wrote more articles, I might rig something up with Pygments. At least that’s somehow positively connotated in my brain. Not sure if it actually deserves it, but I dealt with that in some loose form (can’t even remember) years and years ago. Apparently, it wasn’t too terrible.

To prepare the table of contents, I used grep and sed with some manual intervention in the end. The entire process can be improved. Absolutely.

You wrote your own site generator, didn’t you?

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Accused killer told police of ‘hidden secrets’ before girlfriend went missing
Mark Sheridan Waden told police his girlfriend, a US citizen and former beauty queen, disappeared after he threatened to report her to immigration officials. ⌘ Read more

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Accused killer told police of ‘hidden secrets’ before girlfriend went missing
Mark Sheridan Waden told police his girlfriend, a US citizen and former beauty queen, disappeared after he threatened to report her to immigration officials. ⌘ Read more

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The Queensland department using AI to help with estimates
Eyebrows were raised in department land following an artificial intelligence instruction. Also in Public Circus: an own goal for the Games authority and all hands on deck for a bargaining agreement at City Hall. ⌘ Read more

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‘They’re laughing at us’: How a community lost its beloved bowlo
Norths Leagues Club promised to fix the Bangalow Bowlo’s dilapidated clubhouse when they went into partnership. Now it’s using the state of the clubhouse to justify its decision to close the club. ⌘ Read more

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‘They’re laughing at us’: How a community lost its beloved bowlo
Norths Leagues Club promised to fix the Bangalow Bowlo’s dilapidated clubhouse when they went into partnership. Now it’s using the state of the clubhouse to justify its decision to close the club. ⌘ Read more

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Two years after meeting a man at Zumba, Priscilla Brooten was dead. Now he’s on trial for murder
The same day a US beauty queen disappeared and was allegedly murdered, her boyfriend messaged his new girlfriend talking about sharing a “long kiss”. ⌘ Read more

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↳ In-reply-to » @movq Thanks. I noticed the <updated> of the feed, too. But for some reason, some articles were suddenly marked as new.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Oh, nice. That was quite the ride. :-) And all that because of locales. 😳

But, did I understand that correctly? All Atom feeds were broken, right? Because they all use that same code path with that strftime/strptime dance in it?

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‘They’re laughing at us’: How a community lost its beloved bowlo
Norths Leagues Club promised to fix the Bangalow Bowlo’s dilapidated clubhouse when they went into partnership. Now it’s using the state of the clubhouse to justify its decision to close the club. ⌘ Read more

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Suzie Miller was told ‘women can’t really write plays’. She’s now won awards in London and New York
Suzie Miller has used her legal background to write plays that don’t just entertain, but create change. ⌘ Read more

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Oh boy, it was bloody humid this morning. Just around 20°C when we left, but climbing rapidly. The flow of air when walking was okay, but as soon as we stopped, streams of sweat were pouring down on us. Luckily, it was cloudy, but the lack of wind was bad. Now, the sun is out, 29°C will be reached in an hour and I’m glad that the house is still cool. It will be a different story in a few weeks or months. Not looking forward to that at ll.

On the bright side, we saw the first tadpoles of the year and an also first, but sadly dead slow worm that probably some bird dropped on a bench next to the fountain. The fly was stuck to its feast and also cactus. The municipality fixed the railing nicely and we came across a giant patch of great looking fire bugs on the summit.

All in all, a successful stroll through the woods but for the humid heat.

https://lyse.isobeef.org/waldspaziergang-2026-05-30/

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Nike World Cup Uniforms Made of Recycled Textiles Won’t Solve Fashion Waste
The activewear giant has used chemical recycling to make jersey for 16 teams competing in the tournament. But the technique is unlikely to help solve fashion’s waste issue. ⌘ Read more

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↳ In-reply-to » @movq I'm very curious...

@prologic@twtxt.net

it’s “probabilistic” not “deterministic”

Yep, I know. And when I tell that to people and tell them “if we use AI here, we lose the ability to debug this stuff”, then all I get is: “But it’s good enough. We don’t need to debug this. Non-deterministic computing has its use cases.”

But that is just not how I’d like to model/implement our business processes. đŸ€” I want something reliable, not “it mostly works”.

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↳ In-reply-to » @movq I'm very curious...

LIke with almost everything “big-tech” has done, it’s not the tech you should not trust, but the companies themselves. For example, accessing and using the models (because let’s face it, they have clusters of much larger and more powerful GPU clusters than we could ever afford to build and own ourselves, at least for now) is fine, but trusting their end-user products/services, not so much.

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↳ In-reply-to » @movq I'm very curious...

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I’m kind of flag you bring thi sup, because you simply can’t. You wouldn’t even be able to in an atypical neural network either (which is what ehse things are anyway). The problem here really isn’t the so-called “AI” (I wish we’d stop calling it AI), but the flawed usage(s) thereof. I believe I even stated earlier in this thread that sometimes it may not do what you expect, it’s “probabilistic” not “deterministic” – those pushing for greater use need to understand this, those not happy with the “push”, should educate the ignorant here (especailly managers pushing for weak, insecure and bad uses).

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↳ In-reply-to » @movq I'm very curious...

@prologic@twtxt.net Ahh, I see. Okay, I’m with you there. On this high level, I can understand how the thing works.

Maybe my wording isn’t good. đŸ€” Let’s take a real life example from what we do at work.

There’s this AI chatbot. It gets support requests from users, so the user says something like “I need access to a particular system”. This triggers the bot to “run” the instructions stored in a large Markdown file, like “check if the user is authorized to do this, then issue the following API requests”, and so on. This is essentially like running a little script, except it’s written in natural language (German) and there’s no “script interpreter” but just the AI.

Now, suppose that the AI doesn’t quite do what was intended. There’s some subtle bug. How do you debug this? How do you find out how the AI came to the “conclusion” to run step A instead of step B? And how do you find out how exactly you have to change your prompt so this doesn’t happen again next time?

If this was an actual script/program instead of AI, you could repeat the request and attach a debugger or throw in some printf() or whatever. How do you do that kind of thing with AI? How do you pinpoint exactly what the problem was?

(Or is this just a stupid idea? Do we have to give up that way of thinking when using AI? Is the era of debuggability over?)

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↳ In-reply-to » @bender Well no. Some of us don't. Let me point you at some research on the subject 😅 Some people don't have an inner monologue

@bender@twtxt.net So yeah, no, I do not have an inner monologue at all. Most of the time my inner mind is busy just replaying music or visuals (or at least it used to before I lost my sight, these days it just replays visuals and sounds), but there is never a time when I “talk to myself”, ever, I don’t ever think through something, a problem or an activity and have self-arguments. I just do.

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↳ In-reply-to » @prologic don’t get mad at me, but the long block of text didn’t address any of my questions. 😜😅

@bender@twtxt.net Fine, Let me answer properly and concretely 😅

Would you want your children not to learn anything, because “they have AI”?

No, children still need to learn. That will never change. What they learn however will over time.

Are you OK with your children using the AI for all of their homework?

Yes, frankly I am. Why? Because much of what we teach them in school is utterly pointless.
For example, learning to read Shakespear never taught me anything useful in my life. I regret much of my school years to be honest.
I leanred to read and write, sure. But I learned Math, Science, Computing and how things work on my own by being very curious.

What sense will it make?

That assumes I answered “no”, which I did not. So it all makes perfect sense :D

What kind of future would that bring for them?

This assumes I said “Yes”, which I did :D It will be an itneresting future that’s for sure. I don’t think we can just bury our heads in teh sand and pretend it’s all going to go away, It will not. It will make things very interesting for sure, as we’re already starting to see what’s possible and what’s changeing. For example; ordinary people are using these LLM(s) to write their legal suit and defense in courts with varying levels of success.

Even if AI were to become omniscient, what will it be of the human race then?

I’m not convinced it ever will. In fact, I am not convinced we know how to create true intellience at all.

What would we do?

What would be so different from say an Alien invasion from far superious beings?
What would we do that? Band together and defend humanity?

Serve the AI? Maintain the AI?

That assumes that “AI” will become intelligent and omniscient, which I don’t believe it ever will.

Would we have found the true meaning of life then?

If the meaning of life is to create our own sub-species liken to ourselves, sure, maybe. But is that even a reality? not sure, I doubt it. We barely understand ourselves at the best of times, let alone how our minds works.

To care for AI, Is that it?

How would this be different to caring for a friend, a family member If we could ever truly reate an actual sentient being with real feelings and intelligenace, is there any reason to worry? Could we not be freinds and have mutual goals and form relationships?

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↳ In-reply-to » @bender Well no. Some of us don't. Let me point you at some research on the subject 😅 Some people don't have an inner monologue

@prologic@twtxt.net so, “people with no inner monologue—a condition researchers sometimes refer to as anendophasia”, says the AI. Then “it is not a disorder: lacking an inner voice is simply a different, perfectly healthy way of being human”. Ah, so a condition, but a healthy one. Got it.

Again, I am not talking about a true monologue. If you have never thought “OK, let’s do this!” before engaging on an activity, then alright. Weird, in contrast to the rest of us, hard to believe, yes, but I believe you. Much of the troubleshooting, and creativity that comes with thought involves, well, thoughts. Maybe you are closer to AI than the rest of us, indeed! đŸ€Ș😂

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↳ In-reply-to » @arne This is interesting. Sorry I missed this, I just found this post of yours and wanted to contribute 😅 Here's something interesting about me... I don't ever talk to myself, like ever. I have no, what they call, "inner monologue". Maybe I'm odd, but my wife asked me this very same question a while back and I said the same, there is never anything in my head except ideas, visuals or sounds, sometimes all at once, but never an inner monologue of "talking to myself".

@bender@twtxt.net Well no. Some of us don’t. Let me point you at some research on the subject 😅 Some people don’t have an inner monologue

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