@prologic@twtxt.net Thanks

@akoizumi@social.kyoko-project.wer.ee cool to see that you fixed the css

@akoizumi@social.kyoko-project.wer.ee Cool if I end up just running my own yarn pod but for now twtxt on my site hosted by codeberg works fine

@xuu@txt.sour.is hey

@akoizumi@social.kyoko-project.wer.ee yo does this work?

@jason@jasonsanta.xyz Hey Jason! Welcome to the twtxtverse!

@jason@jasonsanta.xyz Hey Jason! Welcome to the twtxtverse!

@mckinley@twtxt.net really the language authors should have added those to the standard spec by now. That is just obscene.

@mckinley@twtxt.net really the language authors should have added those to the standard spec by now. That is just obscene.

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci Dependendies suck 😆

Too many moving parts 🤦‍♂️

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci Its not better than a Cat5e. I have had two versions of the device. The old ones were only 200Mbps i didn’t have the MAC issue but its like using an old 10baseT. The newer model can support 1Gbps on each port for a total bandwidth of 2Gbps.. i typically would see 400-500Mbps from my Wifi6 router. I am not sure if it was some type of internal timeout or being confused by switching between different wifi access points and seeing the mac on different sides.

Right now I have my wifi connected directly with a cat6e this gets me just under my providers 1.3G downlink. the only thing faster is plugging in directly.

MoCA is a good option, they have 2.5G models in the same price range as the 1G Powerline models BUT, only if you have the coax in wall already.. which puts you in the same spot if you don’t. You are for sure going to have an outlet in every room of the house by code.

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci Its not better than a Cat5e. I have had two versions of the device. The old ones were only 200Mbps i didn’t have the MAC issue but its like using an old 10baseT. The newer model can support 1Gbps on each port for a total bandwidth of 2Gbps.. i typically would see 400-500Mbps from my Wifi6 router. I am not sure if it was some type of internal timeout or being confused by switching between different wifi access points and seeing the mac on different sides.

Right now I have my wifi connected directly with a cat6e this gets me just under my providers 1.3G downlink. the only thing faster is plugging in directly.

MoCA is a good option, they have 2.5G models in the same price range as the 1G Powerline models BUT, only if you have the coax in wall already.. which puts you in the same spot if you don’t. You are for sure going to have an outlet in every room of the house by code.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org we had a crazy amount of rain today, could barely get home, so much water on all the roads and such.

Does anyone of you use PGP encrypted mail, or any kind or email encryption? Why? Why not?

#randomQuestionsForAThursday

@prologic@twtxt.net odd is it maybe a wrong mime type thing? Should be text/calendar. Some http servers can mistakenly mark them application/octet-stream

@prologic@twtxt.net odd is it maybe a wrong mime type thing? Should be text/calendar. Some http servers can mistakenly mark them application/octet-stream

@movq@www.uninformativ.de the real question is… Can it ScreamTracker3?

@movq@www.uninformativ.de the real question is… Can it ScreamTracker3?

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org hah! I cut some out to fit into my pods 4k limit.

Yeah that does studder a bit. To be honest I have no idea what I was thinking there. This excerpt was written a good year ago.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org hah! I cut some out to fit into my pods 4k limit.

Yeah that does studder a bit. To be honest I have no idea what I was thinking there. This excerpt was written a good year ago.

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci always nice with a easy fix!

@prologic@twtxt.net I think we could use deltachats new decentralising app format for it: https://delta.chat/en/2022-06-14-webxdcintro

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I do wonder how we could build a decentralized way to do this 🤔

@prologic@twtxt.net and others, video call tomorrow/tonight?

testing twtxt using jenny

👋 Hello @burglar@txt.sour.is, welcome to txt.sour.is, a Yarn.social Pod! To get started you may want to check out the pod’s Discover feed to find users to follow and interact with. To follow new users, use the ⨁ Follow button on their profile page or use the Follow form and enter a Twtxt URL. You may also find other feeds of interest via Feeds. Welcome! 🤗

👋 Hello @burglar@txt.sour.is, welcome to txt.sour.is, a Yarn.social Pod! To get started you may want to check out the pod’s Discover feed to find users to follow and interact with. To follow new users, use the ⨁ Follow button on their profile page or use the Follow form and enter a Twtxt URL. You may also find other feeds of interest via Feeds. Welcome! 🤗

@prologic@twtxt.net correct type parameters. 😅

@prologic@twtxt.net correct type parameters. 😅

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I usually get up at 05:30, no matter how late I fall a asleep, get in early, get home early 😀

@prologic@twtxt.net on yarn.social I cannot see the link for the list of pods

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@mckinley@twtxt.net Haha, while composing I was wondering two or three times whether I should throw my thoughts in an HTML page instead. But out of utter laziness I discarded that idea. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

@prologic@twtxt.net Error handling especially in Go is very tricky I think. Even though the idea is simple, it’s fairly hard to actually implement and use in a meaningful way in my opinion. All this error wrapping or the lack of it and checking whether some specific error occurred is a mess. errors.As(…) just doesn’t feel natural. errors.Is(…) only just. I mainly avoided it. Yesterday evening I actually researched a bit about that and found this article on errors with Go 1.13. It shed a little bit of light, but I still have a long way to go, I reckon.

We tried several things but haven’t found the holy grail. Currently, we have a mix of different styles, but nothing feels really right. And having plenty of different approaches also doesn’t help, that’s right. I agree, error messages often end up getting wrapped way too much with useless information. We haven’t found a solution yet. We just noticed that it kind of depends on the exact circumstances, sometimes the caller should add more information, sometimes it’s better if the callee already includes what it was supposed to do.

To experiment and get a feel for yesterday’s research results I tried myself on the combined log parser and how to signal three different errors. I’m not happy with it. Any feedback is highly appreciated. The idea is to let the caller check (not implemented yet) whether a specific error occurred. That means I have to define some dedicated errors upfront (ErrInvalidFormat, ErrInvalidStatusCode, ErrInvalidSentBytes) that can be used in the err == ErrInvalidFormat or probably more correct errors.Is(err, ErrInvalidFormat) check at the caller.

All three errors define separate error categories and are created using errors.New(…). But for the invalid status code and invalid sent bytes cases I want to include more detail, the actual invalid number that is. Since these errors are already predefined, I cannot add this dynamic information to them. So I would need to wrap them à la fmt.Errorf("invalid sent bytes '%s': %w", sentBytes, ErrInvalidSentBytes"). Yet, the ErrInvalidSentBytes is wrapped and can be asserted later on using errors.Is(err, ErrInvalidSentBytes), but the big problem is that the message is repeated. I don’t want that!

Having a Python and Java background, exception hierarchies are a well understood concept I’m trying to use here. While typing this long message it occurs to me that this is probably the issue here. Anyways, I thought, I just create a ParseError type, that can hold a custom message and some causing error (one of the three ErrInvalid* above). The custom message is then returned at Error() and the wrapped cause will be matched in Is(…). I then just return a ParseError{fmt.Sprintf("invalid sent bytes '%s'", sentBytes), ErrInvalidSentBytes}, but that looks super weird.

I probably need to scrap the “parent error” ParseError and make all three “suberrors” three dedicated error types implementing Error() string methods where I create a useful error messages. Then the caller probably could just errors.Is(err, InvalidSentBytesError{}). But creating an instance of the InvalidSentBytesError type only to check for such an error category just does feel wrong to me. However, it might be the way to do this. I don’t know. To be tried. Opinions, anyone? Implementing a whole new type is some effort, that I want to avoid.

Alternatively just one ParseError containing an error kind enumeration for InvalidFormat and friends could be used. Also seen that pattern before. But that would then require the much more verbose var parseError ParseError; if errors.As(err, &parseError) && parseError.Kind == InvalidSentBytes { … } or something like that. Far from elegant in my eyes.

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci perfect, thank you :)

@prologic@twtxt.net I think I saw something on the wiki. Ill check again tonight.

@prologic@twtxt.net golang seems to work on it, so Ill give a try on compiling yarn on it tonight. Would be fun if it works.

@prologic@twtxt.net
https://mangopi.cc/mangopi_mqpro
Search for it on amazon.

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@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org yup :)

@prologic@twtxt.net can Yarn pods be consumers to other yarn pods?

@prologic@twtxt.net can Yarn pods be consumers to other yarn pods?

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci I think so. IndieAuth is what I’m a big fan of. All Yarn pods are IndieAuth providers for example (if there are any concumsers out there, we have to work on a consumer ourselves…)

@prologic@twtxt.net thank you, I like them as well, getting closer to autumn now, my favourite time of year for landscape photography in the morning and late evening :)

@prologic@twtxt.net feel free to do so :) I do not plan to have it open for registration though. I might buy a domain and run a public one later on. But for not the one I run was for me.

@prologic@twtxt.net i see your reply has twtxt account for my name in it - that account got removed some time ago.

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci thank you :) I’m taking some more over the weekend, I’ll share them as well :)

@prologic@twtxt.net oh, what illness did you get?

@prologic@twtxt.net I installed my own on my vps :)

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci doing well, 12 in the afternoon here, just came home from a walk in the woods with our dog, really warm and sunny today.

Hi, I am playing with making an event sourcing database. Its super alpha but I thought I would share since others are talking about databases and such.

It’s super basic. Using tidwall/wal as the disk backing. The first use case I am playing with is an implementation of msgbus. I can post events to it and read them back in reverse order.

I plan to expand it to handle other event sourcing type things like aggregates and projections.

Find it here: sour-is/ev

@prologic@twtxt.net @movq@www.uninformativ.de @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org

Hi, I am playing with making an event sourcing database. Its super alpha but I thought I would share since others are talking about databases and such.

It’s super basic. Using tidwall/wal as the disk backing. The first use case I am playing with is an implementation of msgbus. I can post events to it and read them back in reverse order.

I plan to expand it to handle other event sourcing type things like aggregates and projections.

Find it here: sour-is/ev

@prologic@twtxt.net @movq@www.uninformativ.de @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org

@carsten@yarn.zn80.net Nice images!

@niplav@niplav.github.io if he’s willing to be even more nerdy he could use https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/section-evidentials.html and possibly color-code them in some less important color than red

@win0err@kolesnikov.se I agree with @prologic@twtxt.net about the text size. Adding content="width=device-width" to your viewport meta tag will help massively with scaling on different device widths.

Eg. The first screenshot is the current site with a device width of 440px and the second is with the updated viewport meta tag.

Other than that, I like the aesthetic of it 😊 It gives me early-ish internet vibes, which I wasn’t online for (I’m a ‘90s baby) but I’ve seen some pretty early websites.

@prologic@twtxt.net: 1. I use classic twtxt client written in Python from console, I like simplicity; 2. Thanks for the feedback about my website! It’s better viewed with old 800x600 monitors, haha

@prologic@twtxt.net, thanks for the information! I’ll update my twtxt.txt file :-)

I grepped access logs and found at least three subscribers! @apex@rawtext.club, @prologic@twtxt.net, and @darch@neotxt.dk, hi there!

Seems I forgot how to use my twtxt client

twtxt auf home.bonn.cafe installiert - von github.com:win0err/twtxt

Hmm, @prologic@twtxt.net / @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org: Should we remove the section “Traditional Human-Readable Topics” from the spec? Or mark is as deprecated? I haven’t seen this being used in the wild for years. 🤔

@chronolink@chrono.tilde.cafe Replies are not part of the original twtxt format. They were added later as an extension by Yarn.social: https://dev.twtxt.net/doc/twtsubjectextension.html (only the section “Machine-Parsable Conversation Grouping” is used these days)

@prologic@twtxt.net Oh.. reading comprehension is strong today.. you went to US and now back.

@prologic@twtxt.net Oh.. reading comprehension is strong today.. you went to US and now back.

@prologic@twtxt.net Hol-Up. You are state side now? That’s a pretty big change!

@prologic@twtxt.net Hol-Up. You are state side now? That’s a pretty big change!

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I usually only use eggs for baking or fry them for potatoes and spinach. @prologic@twtxt.net Why don’t you have them anymore? Did the fox get them all when the door didn’t close in time? ]:->

Como ya tengo la cuenta de https://twtxt.net/~eaplmx en inglés, usaré esta de Text-plano en español. Veamos qué tal funciona!

**R to @mind_booster: Foi também em 1997 que saiu o jogo Diablo, cujo impacto nos “novos internautas” vai muito além da comunidade de gaming:

https://twtxt.net/twt/vqon7aa**
Foi também em 1997 que saiu o jogo Diablo, cujo impacto nos “novos internautas” vai muito além da comunidade de gaming:

twtxt.net/twt/vqon7aa

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I realized my twtxt client isn’t validating what it pulls once it gets a valid response when a domain started returning js-heavy parking pages for every URL. Oops. Weekend project, I guess. 🤦🏻

@niplav@niplav.github.io Do you have a particular meaning in mind for “long site”, or do you mean all the possible meanings for “long site”?

@niplav@niplav.github.io and I thought evidentials were invented by the Lojban people or maybe North American amerinds, not Eastern Europeans

@niplav@niplav.github.io I have a favorite line of prose written around here somewhere but it’s only understandable by a tiny slice of gamers with literal-Boomer media sensibilities. Posting it would break the Internet.

Look at the twtxt.net api: https://dev.twtxt.net/doc/api.html

O client do twtxt para o Emacs precisa de um upgrade.

Ainda sem ideia como fazer a migração para o twtxt de uma forma razoável e indolor. O caminho faz-se andando.

So it happened - the twtxt.xyz domain finally expired

drops+ring #shaders #GLSL #shadertoy - https://www.shadertoy.com/view/NlsBD4

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@prologic moving around servers, managed to break my twtxt client so using literally the first one I could find

I can’t get twtxt to work properly on my machine so I hope this works

@novaburst@twt.nfld.uk Ah.. that is probably the XMPP verify code.. it doesnt really work that well. I aught to take it out.

@novaburst@twt.nfld.uk Ah.. that is probably the XMPP verify code.. it doesnt really work that well. I aught to take it out.

@tkanos@twtxt.net Yep. https://twitter.com/jack/status/1510314535671922689

@tkanos@twtxt.net Yep. https://twitter.com/jack/status/1510314535671922689

@mutefall@twtxt.net interesting.. were you working on one of the two universities that used it between 1989 and 1991?

@mutefall@twtxt.net interesting.. were you working on one of the two universities that used it between 1989 and 1991?

#event Upcomming Meetup in Copennhagen: algolab(the_art_of_live_coding) @ Støberiet / Computer Klub

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hey @xuu@txt.sour.is i’m trying to sort of get running your keyproofs thing on my hashbang’s site root, but I get this:

Apr 01 02:55:25 de1 sour.is-keyproofs[9084]: 2:55AM ERR home/novaburst/keyproofs/main.go:73 > Application Failed error=": missing jid"

@novaburst@twt.nfld.uk what is it?

@novaburst@twt.nfld.uk what is it?

@prologic@twtxt.net yeah. For commercial use even. Just need to put an attribution note in the project README

@prologic@twtxt.net yeah. For commercial use even. Just need to put an attribution note in the project README

@prologic@twtxt.net +1

@prologic@twtxt.net +1

@mckinley@twtxt.net Agreed! 👌

Can we all vote on the new default being 1024 then perhaps? 🤔

+1 from me

@xuu@txt.sour.is So that means we’re allowed to use it right? 😅

@prologic@twtxt.net if we do adopt this one it is CC-BY from twitter. https://twemoji.twitter.com

@prologic@twtxt.net if we do adopt this one it is CC-BY from twitter. https://twemoji.twitter.com

@prologic@twtxt.net @ullarah@txt.quisquiliae.com I often see messages longer than what the textbox limit is, isn’t it limited by the maxlenght?, I found a workaround by writing from Goryon on mobile, on PC i can simply change the limit with the inspector but isn’t it there for a reason?

I too would like to express a bit more if possible, especially if i have to refer to users and link URLs and images for example, having a limit that isn’t too much of a limit is kind of pointless i think. 🤔

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Excellent use of old denim, and also excellent use of long-form twt!

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Excellent use of old denim, and also excellent use of long-form twt!

@adi@twtxt.net Also, I noticed you followed me on Twitter, but you might enjoy @anths if you want techie stuff instead of Oregon politics. 🤣