an interesting observation in a post twitter reality is how services that are sprouting up to claim some of the refugees are setting themselves up as closed gardens. without the option to federate with other services. like spoutable, counter.social, post, clubhouse and such.

an interesting observation in a post twitter reality is how services that are sprouting up to claim some of the refugees are setting themselves up as closed gardens. without the option to federate with other services. like spoutable, counter.social, post, clubhouse and such.

@xuu@txt.sour.is @prologic@twtxt.net Yarn.social without threading (as it would be the case in a “truncated” feed) does not make sense to me.

Put another way: Yarn.social is not twtxt. The content that we all have in our feeds really is much closer to a web forum or usenet or whatever. It’s threaded conversations. twtxt, as I believe it was originally intended, are short little status updates – that’s it. The formats of Yarn.social and twtxt might be very similar, but the content is vastly different and, in a way, incompatible. (As such, I think I understand very well that the original twtxt crowd is disgruntled.)

That proposed truncated feed doesn’t really provide any value, if you ask me. 🤔 It’d just be chaotic.

💡 Quick ‘n Dirty prototype Yarn.social protocol/spec:

If we were to decide to write a new spec/protocol, what would it look like?

Here’s my rough draft (back of paper napkin idea):

• Feeds are JSON file(s) fetchable by standard HTTP clients over TLS
  
• WebFinger is used at the root of a user’s domain (or multi-user) lookup. e.g: prologic@mills.io -> https://yarn.mills.io/~prologic.json
  
• Feeds contain similar metadata that we’re familiar with: Nick, Avatar, Description, etc
  
• Feed items are signed with a ED25519 private key. That is all “posts” are cryptographically signed.
  
• Feed items continue to use content-addressing, but use the full Blake2b Base64 encoded hash.
  
• Edited feed items produce an “Edited” item so that clients can easily follow Edits.
  
• Deleted feed items produced a “Deleted” item so that clients can easily delete cached items.
  

#Yarn.social #Protocol #Ideas

On my blog: Modern Social Media Etiquette https://john.colagioia.net/blog/2023/03/26/etiquette.html #rant #socialmedia #harm

RT by @mind_booster: RT @fsf@fsf
LibrePlanet 2023: Charting the Course keynote “Education and the future of software freedom” by Erin Rose Glass (erinroseglass) will be starting soon in the Jupiter room. Check this talk out and more via: https://u.fsf.org/3yr (½)
RT @fsf@fsf

LibrePlanet 2023: Charting the Course keynote “Education and the future of software freedom” by Erin Rose Glass (erinroseglass) will be starting soon in the Jupiter room. Check this talk out and more via: [u.fsf.org/3yr … ⌘ Read more

La belle, le clochard et ses dédommagements
Un texte de Nafy-Nathalie et h16 L’histoire est assez ubuesque. La SNC LA BELLE ET LE CLOCHARD, société de promotion à « visée étique et sociale », créée en 2020, possède dans le 9ème arrondissement de Lyon les locaux d’une ancienne entreprise de télésurveillance qu’elle a laissé totalement à l’abandon. Un groupe d’une vingtaine de jeunes décide […] ⌘ Read more

L’Etat va utiliser l’excuse de la fraude aux allocations pour surveiller vos voyages aériens
Fini de rire ! L’Exécutif a pris des décisions, il est formel, et ça ne va plus se passer tout seul : Gabriel Attal, le blanc-bec en charge de ce qui reste de budget à la France, a annoncé la future mise en œuvre d’un grand plan de “lutte contre la fraude sociale”, parce que ça suffit […] ⌘ Read more

Introducing Activating Developers and the new Digital Public Goods Open Source Community Manager Program
The Social Impact, Tech for Social Good team is launching a new Open Source Community Manager Program to support digital public goods. This is part of their new Activating Developers initiative. ⌘ Read more

👋 Hey y’all yarners 🤗 – @darch@neotxt.dk and I have been discussing in our Weekly Yarn.social call (still ongoing… come join us! 🙏) about the experimental Yarn.social <-> Activity Pub integration/bridge I’ve been working on… And mostly whether it’s even a good idea at al, and if we should continue or not?

There are still some outstanding issues that would need to be improved if we continued this regardless

Some thoughts being discussed:

• Yarn.social pods are more of a “family”, where you invite people into your “home” or “community”
  
• Opening up to the “Fedivise” is potentially “uncontrolled”
  
• Even at a small scale (a tiny dev pod) we see activities from servers never interacted with before
  
• The possibility of abuse (because basically anything can POST things to your Pod now)
  
• Pull vs. Push model polarising models/views which whilst in theory can be made to work, should they?
  

Go! 👏

Formidable, la sécu de Macron rembourse les protections périodiques mais plus les cathéters !
Il y a parfois d’amusantes collisions d’actualité, parfois fortuites, parfois non et parfois on se demande. Et alors que le gouvernement est actuellement très occupé par un peuple plus remuant que prévu, le voilà qui tente, envers et contre tout, d’intéressantes cabrioles avec les remboursements de sécurité sociale. C’est ainsi qu’on apprend, quelqu … ⌘ Read more

OAuth Support in Bluesky and AT Protocol
Bluesky, a new social media platform and AT Protocol, is unsurprisingly running up against the same challenges and limitations that Flickr, Twitter and many other social media platforms faced in the 2000s: passwords! ⌘ Read more

Find me on Mastodon https://social.gr0k.net/@gr0k

So who currently is running main or edge of Yarn.social’s yarnd on their pod and has activitypub and webfinger enabled? 🤔

I’ll be available on video for the next couple of hours, if anyone wants to join:

https://meet.mills.io/call/Yarn.social

📣 Update on Activity Pub: Just a quick update on the Yarn.social <-> Activity Pub (aka Mastodon and others):

• Can follow other Activity Pub actors ✅
  
• Can be followed by other Activity Pub actors ✅
  
• Your posts can be seen by Activity Pub actors ✅
  
• You can see posts from Activity Pub actors ✅
  

What does not yet work:

• Translating replies (aka threading) ❌

@bender@twtxt.net hehe!
The cool thing is that it worked just fine on my VPS at least, so this is going to be nice!
Yarn is by far my favorite social media, and even more now with the feediverse stuff that’s coming along.

On my blog: Developer Diary, World Day of Social Justice https://john.colagioia.net/blog/2023/02/20/social-justice.html #programming #project #devjournal

Need some help with Yarn.social’s integration with Activity Pub – Specifically it appears that Mastoon servers don’t like what I’m doing somewhere 😅 Anyone able to help? 🤔

I’m online at https://meet.mills.io/call/Yarn.social if anyone wants to join 👌

L’Etat macronien, en même temps, veut refaire du nucléaire avec votre argent
Rappelez-vous, c’était il y a quelques années : en tant que citoyen français, vous pouviez quasiment faire ce que vous vouliez de vos finances après les indispensables ponctions fiscales et sociales qui permettaient au pays de disposer d’un système social que le monde entier nous enviait (sans nous copier, pas fou). Mais ça, c’était il y […] ⌘ Read more

Rebond de zombies en Bourse
Un article de Henry Bonner L’application sociale Snapchat illustre comment les zombies tirent leur épingle du jeu de l’accès au crédit. Snap, le groupe auquel Snapchat appartient, a fait une perte plus importante que d’habitude au cours de l’année 2022, atteignant 1,4 milliards de dollars américains. Mais à la différence d’autres groupes de la Silicon […] ⌘ Read more

So, according to the latest @HackerRadioShow, several house appliances’ manufacturers (of dishwashers and things like that) are puzzled, wondering why don’t the owners of such appliances allow their devices to connect to the home’s wifi. ½
So, according to the latest @HackerRadioShow, several house appliances’ manufacturers (of dishwashers and things like that) are puzzled, wondering why don’t the owners of such applia … ⌘ Read more

R to @mind_booster: responde @padaoesilva que há um amplo consenso social (outra vez), e que espera que então haja também consenso político. “muito rapidamente” a consulta, nunca será menos 30 dias de duração, ele “tem falado com muitas entidades”.
responde @padaoesilva que há um amplo consenso social (outra vez), e que espera que então haja também consenso político. “muito rapidamente” a consulta, nunca será menos 30 dias de duração, ele “tem falado co … ⌘ Read more

#Artigo17 na @AssembleiaRepub: @padaoesilva 1º. Congratula PT pelo seu contributo nas directivas @ EU. Aplaude o novo direito conexo. Diz que não está desatento, mas fala de um “consenso social” sobre estas matérias. Diz que depois da aprovação hoje fará uma consulta pública.
#Artigo17 na @AssembleiaRepub: @padaoesilva 1º. Congratula PT pelo seu … ⌘ Read more

R to @mind_booster: Faça-se justiça, isto é “tapado” pelo facto de quem recebe pensão social de velhice recebe também um complemento extraordinário de solidariedade (19.52 a quem tem até 70 anos), e é ainda elegível ao complemento solidário para idosos. 1/3
Faça-se justiça, isto é “tapado” pelo facto de quem recebe pensão social de velhice recebe também um complemento extraordinário de solidariedade (19.52 a quem tem até 70 anos), e é ainda elegível ao complemento solidário para idosos. 1/3 ⌘ Read more

Lembrete anual: em Portugal o limiar de pobreza são 554€/mês, e o valor da pensão social de velhice é de 213.91€/mês.
Lembrete anual: em Portugal o limiar de pobreza são 554€/mês, e o valor da pensão social de velhice é de 213.91€/mês. ⌘ Read more

Ce “complot” qui a eu lieu
Avec les #TwittersFiles, ces révélations en chaîne parues sur le réseau social de Musk, il devient évident que sont maintenant avérées ces théories poussées par ce que les médias appellent encore des “complotistes”, et petit à petit, on se rend compte qu’il existe bien un mouvement global, décidé par une petite élite, qui vise à […] ⌘ Read more

Consciousness and Materialism

David Hume has often been quoted for his “Is” vs. “Ought” distinction.
The argument is that fact and morality are two different domains, and from no accumulation of statements of fact alone can we ever jump to a statement of morality.

We can say statements of fact such as:

1. To be murdered is potentially painful.
   
2. To be murdered is irreversible.
   
3. Murder causes social dysfunction.
   
4. Etc. …
   

By merely my collecting these, we haven’t proven that _M … ⌘ Read more

so in effect it would look something like this:

---
subject: acct:me@sour.is
aliases:
  - salty:me@sour.is
  - yarn:xuu@ev.sour.is
  - status:xuu@chaos.social
  - mailto:me@sour.is
---
subject: salty:me@sour.is
aliases:
  - acct:me@sour.is
links:
  - rel:    self
    type:   application/json+salty
    href:   https://ev.sour.is/inbox/01GAEMKXYJ4857JQP1MJGD61Z5
    properties:
        "http://salty.im/ns/nick":    xuu
        "http://salty.im/ns/display": Jon Lundy
        "http://salty.im/ns/pubkey":     kex140fwaena9t0mrgnjeare5zuknmmvl0vc7agqy5yr938vusxfh9ys34vd2p
---
subject: yarn:xuu@ev.sour.is
links:
  - rel: https://txt.sour.is/user/xuu
    properties:
        "https://sour.is/rel/redirect": https://txt.sour.is/.well-known/webfinger?resource=acct%3Axuu%40txt.sour.is
---    
subject: status:xuu@chaos.social
links:
   - rel: http://joinmastodon.org#xuu%40chaos.social
     properties:
        "https://sour.is/rel/redirect": https://chaos.social/.well-known/webfinger?resource=acct%3Axuu%40chaos.social
---
subject: mailto:me@sour.is
...

so in effect it would look something like this:

---
subject: acct:me@sour.is
aliases:
  - salty:me@sour.is
  - yarn:xuu@ev.sour.is
  - status:xuu@chaos.social
  - mailto:me@sour.is
---
subject: salty:me@sour.is
aliases:
  - acct:me@sour.is
links:
  - rel:    self
    type:   application/json+salty
    href:   https://ev.sour.is/inbox/01GAEMKXYJ4857JQP1MJGD61Z5
    properties:
        "http://salty.im/ns/nick":    xuu
        "http://salty.im/ns/display": Jon Lundy
        "http://salty.im/ns/pubkey":     kex140fwaena9t0mrgnjeare5zuknmmvl0vc7agqy5yr938vusxfh9ys34vd2p
---
subject: yarn:xuu@ev.sour.is
links:
  - rel: https://txt.sour.is/user/xuu
    properties:
        "https://sour.is/rel/redirect": https://txt.sour.is/.well-known/webfinger?resource=acct%3Axuu%40txt.sour.is
---    
subject: status:xuu@chaos.social
links:
   - rel: http://joinmastodon.org#xuu%40chaos.social
     properties:
        "https://sour.is/rel/redirect": https://chaos.social/.well-known/webfinger?resource=acct%3Axuu%40chaos.social
---
subject: mailto:me@sour.is
...

@xuu@txt.sour.is that doesn’t seem to fit the spirit of the spec, at least by my read (I could be wrong obv). The example on Wikipedia’s webfinger page,

{
	"subject": "acct:bob@example.com",
	"aliases": [
		"https://www.example.com/~bob/"
	],
	"properties": {
		"http://example.com/ns/role": "employee"
	},
	"links": [{
			"rel": "http://webfinger.example/rel/profile-page",
			"href": "https://www.example.com/~bob/"
		},
		{
			"rel": "http://webfinger.example/rel/businesscard",
			"href": "https://www.example.com/~bob/bob.vcf"
		}
	]
}

and then the comparison with how mastodon uses webfinger,

{
    "subject": "acct:Mastodon@mastodon.social",
    "aliases": [
        "https://mastodon.social/@Mastodon",
        "https://mastodon.social/users/Mastodon"
    ],
    "links": [
        {
            "rel": "http://webfinger.net/rel/profile-page",
            "type": "text/html",
            "href": "https://mastodon.social/@Mastodon"
        },
        {
            "rel": "self",
            "type": "application/activity+json",
            "href": "https://mastodon.social/users/Mastodon"
        },
        {
            "rel": "http://ostatus.org/schema/1.0/subscribe",
            "template": "https://mastodon.social/authorize_interaction?uri={uri}"
        }
    ]
}

suggests to me you want to leave the subject/acct bit as is (don’t add prefixes) and put extra information you care to include in the links section, where you’re free to define the rel URIs however you see fit. The notion here is that webfinger is offering a mapping from an account name to additional information about that account, so if anything you’d use a "subject": "acct:SALTY ACCOUNT_REPRESENTATION" line in the JSON to achieve what you’re saying if you don’t want to do that via links.

@prologic@twtxt.net That was exactly my thought at first too. but what do we put as the rel for salty account? since it is decentralized we dont have a set URL for machines to key off. so for example take the standard response from okta:

# http GET https://example.okta.com/.well-known/webfinger  resource==acct:bob
{
    "links": [
        {
            "href": "https://example.okta.com/sso/idps/OKTA?login_hint=bob#",
            "properties": {
                "okta:idp:type": "OKTA"
            },
            "rel": "http://openid.net/specs/connect/1.0/issuer",
            "titles": {
                "und": "example"
            }
        }
    ],
    "subject": "acct:bob"
}

It gives one link that follows the OpenID login. So the details are specific to the subject acct:bob.

Mastodons response:

{
  "subject": "acct:xuu@chaos.social",
  "aliases": [
    "https://chaos.social/@xuu",
    "https://chaos.social/users/xuu"
  ],
  "links": [
    {
      "rel": "http://webfinger.net/rel/profile-page",
      "type": "text/html",
      "href": "https://chaos.social/@xuu"
    },
    {
      "rel": "self",
      "type": "application/activity+json",
      "href": "https://chaos.social/users/xuu"
    },
    {
      "rel": "http://ostatus.org/schema/1.0/subscribe"
    }
  ]
}

it supplies a profile page and a self which are both specific to that account.

@prologic@twtxt.net That was exactly my thought at first too. but what do we put as the rel for salty account? since it is decentralized we dont have a set URL for machines to key off. so for example take the standard response from okta:

# http GET https://example.okta.com/.well-known/webfinger  resource==acct:bob
{
    "links": [
        {
            "href": "https://example.okta.com/sso/idps/OKTA?login_hint=bob#",
            "properties": {
                "okta:idp:type": "OKTA"
            },
            "rel": "http://openid.net/specs/connect/1.0/issuer",
            "titles": {
                "und": "example"
            }
        }
    ],
    "subject": "acct:bob"
}

It gives one link that follows the OpenID login. So the details are specific to the subject acct:bob.

Mastodons response:

{
  "subject": "acct:xuu@chaos.social",
  "aliases": [
    "https://chaos.social/@xuu",
    "https://chaos.social/users/xuu"
  ],
  "links": [
    {
      "rel": "http://webfinger.net/rel/profile-page",
      "type": "text/html",
      "href": "https://chaos.social/@xuu"
    },
    {
      "rel": "self",
      "type": "application/activity+json",
      "href": "https://chaos.social/users/xuu"
    },
    {
      "rel": "http://ostatus.org/schema/1.0/subscribe"
    }
  ]
}

it supplies a profile page and a self which are both specific to that account.

Trying to wrap my head around webfinger..

my first thoughts about it were that a subject of acct:me@sour.is would have a listing of rel’s for the different accounts that are related to me (ie. yarn, salty, twitter, mastodon, etc…)

but maybe my thinking is at the wrong level.. that each of those accounts would be on a subject level and the rels are describing different aspects of that account. so i would have salty:acct:xuu@sour.is, twitter:acct:xuu, mastodon:acct:xuu@chaos.social, yarn:acct:xuu@ev.sour.is and then i could have a main acct:me@sour.is that links them together as aliases.

I found okta will do something similar with its accounts to show as okta:acct:user@domain so maybe I am on to something?

Trying to wrap my head around webfinger..

my first thoughts about it were that a subject of acct:me@sour.is would have a listing of rel’s for the different accounts that are related to me (ie. yarn, salty, twitter, mastodon, etc…)

but maybe my thinking is at the wrong level.. that each of those accounts would be on a subject level and the rels are describing different aspects of that account. so i would have salty:acct:xuu@sour.is, twitter:acct:xuu, mastodon:acct:xuu@chaos.social, yarn:acct:xuu@ev.sour.is and then i could have a main acct:me@sour.is that links them together as aliases.

I found okta will do something similar with its accounts to show as okta:acct:user@domain so maybe I am on to something?

**RT by @mind_booster: Important read⬇️
Social Quitting
How social media barons squandered their lock-in and made themselves obsolete.
By @doctorow

https://doctorow.medium.com/social-quitting-f049b33ad3f6**
Important read⬇️

Social Quitting

How social media barons squandered their lock-in and made themselves obsolete.

By @doctorow

doctorow.medium.com/social-q…

![](https://nitter … ⌘ Read more

RT by @mind_booster: Na sexta, primeira a palestra terá como orador @tcarrondo da @ANSOL, que irá falar sobre “O Dia do Domínio Público em Portugal”. A entrada no evento é gratuita mas sujeita a inscrição. consultem o site para mais informações: https://pt.wikimedia.org/wiki/Dia_do_Dom%C3%ADnio_P%C3%BAblico_2023
Na sexta, primeira a palestra terá como orador @tcarrondo da @ANSOL, que irá falar sobre “O … ⌘ Read more

RT by @mind_booster: O dia do #DomínioPúblico está quase, quase aí 😍
A @wikimediapt, a @ANSOL e a Biblioteca Nacional vão celebrar no dia 6 de janeiro e as inscrições já estão abertas:
https://pt.wikimedia.org/wiki/Dia_do_Dom%C3%ADnio_P%C3%BAblico_2023
href=”https://txt.sour.is/search?q=%23PublicDomainDay”>#PublicDomainDay**
O dia do #DomínioPúblico está quase, quase aí 😍

A @wikimediapt, a @ANSOL e a Bib … ⌘ Read more

The CIA invests in these Tech companies
Video games. Search engines. Social Media. Open Source. Even SQL databases. Seriously. ⌘ Read more

I think boredom is a real force that pushes ourselves to the edge, to hopefully make a change in life, like going out to see real people. Social media creates this cozy, safe place to keep your mind occupied, letting life pass without realizing it. Social media may prevent users from reaping creative rewards of profound boredom | Hacker News

social.encryptomatic.com:70

@prologic@twtxt.net On the one hand, twtxt has become more popular thanks to Yarn.social. On the other hand, subject and hashtag extensions took away the simplicity of the protocol. For example, it is impossible to understand which conversation (#base32hash) a tweet refers to or to reply to a tweet without going to a yarn.social pod. Compare with re: in this tweet which can be written without using any client at all

I decided to become popular in decentralized social networks. 1. Pixelfed: https://pixelfed.social/win0err — mostly landscape photography; 2. Mastodon: https://mastodon.online/@win0err — software engineering content

Twitter has a new “social platforms” policy… is it maddening? Hilarious? Ridiculous? All of the above? I laughed, but to be clear, I don’t think ‘funny’ is a good way to describe it.

Links to everywhere you can find Lunduke on the Internet
RSS feeds, social media, video sharing… all of it. ⌘ Read more

La collusion de l’État, des médias et de BigTech a un nom. Serait-ce “fascisme” ?
Si l’on regarde la presse de grand chemin, la semaine écoulée fut parcourue des mêmes atermoiements énergétiques que d’habitude, des sempiternelles pleurnicheries politiques et sociales que la France connaît depuis trop longtemps et qui l’engluent dans un surplace maintenant problématique. En revanche, du point de vue des réseaux sociaux, la même semaine fut au contraire […] ⌘ Read more

Social media should be forbidden before 18.

Understanding the social impact of open source technologies
Here’s how nonprofits and the social sector are using open source to drive social good. ⌘ Read more

**R to @mind_booster: Antes que me venham aqui os puristas sem humor e os defensores da medida cascar porque “o que está a ser pedido é uma dedução no IRS e não um corte no IVA”… Yes, But.

Os proponentes da medida chamam a isto “pedido de incentivo fiscal à comunicação social e à música” 🤷‍♂️**
Antes que me venham aqui os puristas sem humor e os defensores da medida cascar porque “o que está a ser pedido é uma dedução no IRS e não um corte no IVA”… Yes, But.

Os proponentes da medida chamam a isto “pedido … ⌘ Read more

PSA: DMs on social media sites are not truely PMs. This is why we have a separate tool for private messaging from yarn. Always remember, if you don’t own the infra (or the parts at the ends of e2e encryption) you don’t own the data. and the true owners can view it any way they want!

https://twitter.com/TinkerSec/status/1587040089057759235?t=At-8r9yJPiG6xF17skTxwA&s=19

PSA: DMs on social media sites are not truely PMs. This is why we have a separate tool for private messaging from yarn. Always remember, if you don’t own the infra (or the parts at the ends of e2e encryption) you don’t own the data. and the true owners can view it any way they want!

https://twitter.com/TinkerSec/status/1587040089057759235?t=At-8r9yJPiG6xF17skTxwA&s=19

@tkanos@twtxt.net user in question had posted information about someones employment in what appeared to be a threat to contact their boss. Maybe it was in jest.. but we felt it was a form of doxing that we do not wish to see within our community. Yarn.Social is first and foremost a town square of ideas and should be viewed as a safe place for all.

@tkanos@twtxt.net user in question had posted information about someones employment in what appeared to be a threat to contact their boss. Maybe it was in jest.. but we felt it was a form of doxing that we do not wish to see within our community. Yarn.Social is first and foremost a town square of ideas and should be viewed as a safe place for all.

@jlj@twt.nfld.uk @xuu@txt.sour.is hello! @prologic@twtxt.net and I were chatting about the question of globally deleting twts from the yarn.social network. @prologic@twtxt.net noted that he could build the tools and endpoints to delete twts, but some amount of cooperation from pod operators would be necessary to make it all work together. He asked me to spawn a discussion of the subject here, so here we are!

I don’t have enough technical knowledge of yarn.social to say with any credibility how it all should work, but I can say that I think it ought to be possible and it’d be good to do for those rare times when it’s needed.

maybe social constructivism is just descriptive in how most social scientists create their theories?

GitHub at the 77th United Nations General Assembly
Read about how the GitHub Social Impact, Tech for Social Good and Policy teams participated in the 77th session of the United Nations General Assembly, including events we hosted with the World Health Organization and the UN Development Programme. ⌘ Read more

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci Do you happen to use Signal btw? 🤔 If you do, it would be great if you could join the Yarn.social Signal Group (_at least until we have Group support and better apps for Salty.im 😅)

Applications for micro-mentoring at GitHub Universe 2022 are now live
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@akoizumi@social.kyoko-project.wer.ee What I don’t like is that openbsd is secure and then that means some things are different from like debian. Sometimes the security maens some change or whatever has to be done when on debian nothing additional has to be done.

@akoizumi@social.kyoko-project.wer.ee I don’t really like the way openbsd does things and use Debian on all my servers. But on the desktop side I like it but don’t use it

@akoizumi@social.kyoko-project.wer.ee We were talking about having links on the yarn.social page for some guide on how to setup jenny + mutt

@prologic@twtxt.net There is also a link to the blog post on the yarn.social site about how to setup jenny with mutt.

@movq@uninformativ.de There might not even be any benefit to moving that to yarn.social. Besides the yarn site should promote using yarn not twtxt even though there is a little bit of information on the site.

@akoizumi@social.kyoko-project.wer.ee cool to see that you fixed the css

@akoizumi@social.kyoko-project.wer.ee Cool if I end up just running my own yarn pod but for now twtxt on my site hosted by codeberg works fine

@akoizumi@social.kyoko-project.wer.ee yo does this work?

Huh… Nope.

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Content-Length: 407
Content-Type: text/calendar
Access-Control-Allow-Origin: *
Access-Control-Expose-Headers: ETag
Permissions-Policy: interest-cohort=()
Content-Security-Policy: default-src 'none'; sandbox
Referrer-Policy: same-origin
Vary: Authorization


BEGIN:VCALENDAR
VERSION:2.0;2.0
PRODID:SandCal
CALSCALE:GREGORIAN
BEGIN:VEVENT
DTSTAMP:20220822T180903Z
UID:bb63bfbd-623e-4805-b11b-3181d96375e6
DTSTART;TZID=America/Chicago:20220827T000000
CREATED:20220822T180903Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20220822T180903Z
LOCATION:https://meet.jit.si/Yarn.social
SUMMARY:Yarn Call
RRULE:FREQ=WEEKLY
DTEND;TZID=America/Chicago:20220827T010000
END:VEVENT
END:VCALENDAR

Huh… Nope.

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Content-Length: 407
Content-Type: text/calendar
Access-Control-Allow-Origin: *
Access-Control-Expose-Headers: ETag
Permissions-Policy: interest-cohort=()
Content-Security-Policy: default-src 'none'; sandbox
Referrer-Policy: same-origin
Vary: Authorization


BEGIN:VCALENDAR
VERSION:2.0;2.0
PRODID:SandCal
CALSCALE:GREGORIAN
BEGIN:VEVENT
DTSTAMP:20220822T180903Z
UID:bb63bfbd-623e-4805-b11b-3181d96375e6
DTSTART;TZID=America/Chicago:20220827T000000
CREATED:20220822T180903Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20220822T180903Z
LOCATION:https://meet.jit.si/Yarn.social
SUMMARY:Yarn Call
RRULE:FREQ=WEEKLY
DTEND;TZID=America/Chicago:20220827T010000
END:VEVENT
END:VCALENDAR

👋 Hello @burglar@txt.sour.is, welcome to txt.sour.is, a Yarn.social Pod! To get started you may want to check out the pod’s Discover feed to find users to follow and interact with. To follow new users, use the ⨁ Follow button on their profile page or use the Follow form and enter a Twtxt URL. You may also find other feeds of interest via Feeds. Welcome! 🤗

👋 Hello @burglar@txt.sour.is, welcome to txt.sour.is, a Yarn.social Pod! To get started you may want to check out the pod’s Discover feed to find users to follow and interact with. To follow new users, use the ⨁ Follow button on their profile page or use the Follow form and enter a Twtxt URL. You may also find other feeds of interest via Feeds. Welcome! 🤗

@prologic@twtxt.net on yarn.social I cannot see the link for the list of pods

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We’ve barreled past the microblog line and flew straight over the e-mail chain line. This is just social blogging.

solution to the fermi paradox: ~all species don’t have nerds bc nerds are locally maladaptive, get stuck at the social reality bullshit level, humans are a fluke in the regard (kindness to kin, but for…, uhh, nerds?)

maybe for most people social media isn’t an epistemic hazard, but “just” an attention hazard?

@chronolink@chrono.tilde.cafe Replies are not part of the original twtxt format. They were added later as an extension by Yarn.social: https://dev.twtxt.net/doc/twtsubjectextension.html (only the section “Machine-Parsable Conversation Grouping” is used these days)

It’ll track a bunch of finger(1) endpoints and let you see what’s new. Very early draft. Not actually a social network, more an anti-social network for ‘80s CompSci transplants. :-)

A read-only, finger(1)-based social network, maybe? http://txtpunk.com/fingers/

We don’t have meaningful social connections anymore like our parents or their parents geeration had. We are so scattered, that I am unsure how many of my friends are actually friends and how many are just professional contacts. Everytime I switch job, almost 70% of my friends suddenly fall out of contact. Heck, I don’t even know the people who live in next apartments both left, right, up and down on the same building. Socializing with my friends mean, setting up an appointment weeks ahead to see if we can align on a free-slot and this often involves all of us commuting to somewhere and disbanding by 22:00 hours because family, work next morning, chores to do, doctor appointment and other human things. Why do you waste so much time on the internet? | Hacker News

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Last week we launched a sister product from the same team that brings you JMP: Togethr.  Why are we launching a second product?  Why now?  What does this have to do with the mission of JMP in particular, or the Sopranica project in general?

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Decentralization comes at very high costs. A self-authenticating social protocol | Hacker News

third, let’s look at daygame. if you ask someone out in a social circle/hobby group, that leaves residual social cruft lying around: awkwardness & mutual avoidance. the whole thing is not Done the way it is when you get cleanly rejected on the street. (online dating has a similar quality of Doneness to it, I think, but matches might stack up and old leads might spring to life sometime, but that’s the same with DG).

The moral of this story is that secondary and tertiary effects matter. Technology not only affects what we can do with respect to technological issues, it also affects our social behavior. This social behavior can loop back and affect the original technological issues under consideration. The Lisp Curse

Lisp is so powerful that problems which are technical issues in other programming languages are social issues in Lisp. The Lisp Curse

the only relief i currently have is that the number of not-completely-autistic hot women in the bayrat/ea communities is very low, so we can’t be that deep into social bullshit yet

Technical Solutions Poorly Solve Social Problems Technical Solutions Poorly Solve Social Problems - Xe

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@benk@kwiecien.us https://yarn.social/ has support for fetching feeds over gemini since a few minutes back! Not serving them there that I know of, but that’s just a matter of pointing your gemini server to the twtxt.txt file.

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Personal identity is a deep, and deeply meaningful, subject: at some level, what’s more important than what makes you you? Paradoxically, throughout history and across cultures, often personal identity has been a social construct, tied closely to tribe, clan, family, ethnic group, race, caste, class, societal role, and so on - usually in opposition to some Other (“I’m a Capulet, not a Montague”, “I’m a proletarian, not a bourgeois”, etc.)…. ⌘ Read more

@tamer@twtxt.net We’re not trying to compete with anything… If you’ve read About Yarn.social – In a nutshell I want to create an open, transparent social platform that respect’s folks privacy and freedoms. It must also be easy to use and down-to-earth where human interactions actually matter. None of this rubbish of manipulating what you see, driving up engagement numbers to serve your advertisers and all that garbage

As I read “No Social Media Club”, I wonder what it would be like if I don’t share so much on my blog, what it would be like if I had never started sharing anything on the internet in the first place? 🤔 I somehow don’t have an answer to this… ⌘ Read more

First rule of SSB is: be patient - it is meant to move slower than conventional social networks

James Mills - Future of Yarn.social

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I know I’ve mentioned this in various social media, but I just want to reiterate how much internet reality drama means to me. It’s insanely entertaining.

JavaScript : web apps

wut?! 😳 seriously?! 🤦‍♂️

Python : small tools

Okay 👌

Go: micro services

Umm bad generalization 🤣 – Example yarnd that powers most of Yarn.social 😂

Java: enterprise software

Yes! Oh gawd yes! 🤣 And Java™ needs to die a swift death!

C: crimes

Hmmm? 🤔 I feel this one is going to have some backslash and/or go the way of “Hacker” being misconstrued to mean entirely different/incorrect things as is what’s happening in the media (for various definitions of “media”).

🤔 👋 Reconsidering moving Yarn.social’s development back to Github: Speaking of which (I do not forget); @fastidious@arrakis.netbros.com and I were discussing over a video call two nights ago, as well as @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org who joined a bit later, about the the whole moved of all of my projects and their source code off of Github. Whilst some folks do understand and appreciate my utter disgust over what Microsoft and Copilot did by blatantly scraping open source software’s codebases without even so much as any attempt at attribution or respecting the licenes of many (if not all?) open source projects.

That being said however, @fastidious@arrakis.netbros.com makes a very good and valid argument for putting Yarn.social’s codebases, repositories and issues back on Github for reasons that make me “torn” over my own sense of morality and ethics.

But I can live with this as long as I continue to run and operate my new (yet to be off the ground) company “Self Hosted Pty Ltd” and where it operates it’s own code hosting, servicesa, tools, etc.

Plese comment here on your thoughts. Let us decide togetehr 🤗

#yarnsocial #github #opsnsource #copilot #microsoft

Btw… You guys have gotta start posting more pictures/videos a bit more regularly 😂 Every time I show Yarn.social off to a friend to “sell” them the platform and get them off their privacy eroding garbage Facebook/Twitter/etc) The no. #1 question I get asked is:

Oh is this only comments/text

🤣 Let’s show off the platform as a whole a bit eh? 😅

Hmmm so… We seem to have a few pods offline in the network 😂 Also 😢

• @jlj@twt.nfld.uk’s twt.nfld.uk => 504 Gateway Time-out
  
• @adi@f.adi.onl’s f.adi.onl => 200 OK but doens’t appear to be a pod anymore?! 🤔
  
• @eldersnake@yarn.andrewjvpowell.com’s personal pod => offline due to lack of Solar/Battery power? 😅
  
• @lohn@tw.lohn.in’s personal pod => 503 Service Unavailable
  

It’s a bad day for Yarn.social 🤣

Good thing it’s all decentralised 😉