@prologic@twtxt.net That is a good point. I do not mind either way, but I have to admit I do not know enough about it to tell if one solution is better then the other. But I think it’s important to make it so that it brings others onboard as well as you say.
I would definitely use it - since that would remove the need to set up other things to communicate with others, so It would be a most welcomed feature to have.

@stigatle@yarn.stigatle.no The reason I was thinking about a separate binary / project / service is to bring along our Twtxt friends like @movq@www.uninformativ.de and @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org and anyone else that self-hosted their Twtxt feed on their own. But this of course has added complexities like spinning up yanrd along with whatever this thing will be called configuring the two and connecting them. Fortunately however yarnd already does this with the feeds service and defaults to using feeds.twtxt.net – So we would so something similar there too. Further thoughts? 🤔

@prologic@twtxt.net a separate binay would work too, maybe yarnd could just start it. if its a separate project - then it could possibly be useful for others as well? Im not sure, Im just thinking - the easier it is to set up and run - the better it is for everyone. Im sure it can be easy to set up and use either way.

@prologic@twtxt.net personally I would like it integrated and opt-in. just enable with a flag when starting up yarnd.

@prologic@twtxt.net that would be very nice, and remove the need to have more services running. I think it would attract more people to run this to use that, sunce yarnd is very easy to set up and run.

@prologic@twtxt.net doing fine, the dily grind. But look forward to the weekend, going to a indoor trampoline park with my kids, and weather is going to be nice (not rain) as well, so Ill try and get on a hike with them as well, have a fire, cook some food and just enjoy being out in the forest :)

@prologic@twtxt.net Good evening! How are you doing today?

@cel@celehner.com hi there!

Hi <@stigatle https://yarn.stigatle.no/user/stigatle/twtxt.txt>!

@bender@twtxt.net @prologic@twtxt.net @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org hehe, we have never brushed his teeth to be honest, but he gets high quality food, without grain / potatoes, pure dried meat pellets, and raw frozen meat that we defrost and mix in. he also chews a lot of bone as well.

@prologic@twtxt.net yup, Alaskan Husky :)

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I do not have a picture of the sunset here, but it was really nice here too :)
thanks for sharing, always nice to see :)

@prologic@twtxt.net thank you so much!
perfect for what I needed.

@prologic@twtxt.net do you have an example somewhere? want to tinker a bit and use libcurl for it

@prologic@twtxt.net I get the worry of privacy. But I think there is some value in the data being collected. Do I think that Russ is up there scheming new ways to discover what packages you use in internal projects for targeting ads?? Probably not.

Go has always been driven by usage data. Look at modules. There was need for having repeatable builds so various package tool chains were made and evolved into what we have today. Generics took time and seeing pain points where they would provide value. They weren’t done just so it could be checked off on a box of features. Some languages seem to do that to the extreme.

Whenever changes are made to the language there are extensive searches across public modules for where the change might cause issues or could be improved with the change. The fs embed and strings.Cut come to mind.

I think its good that the language maintainers are using what metrics they have to guide where to focus time and energy. Some of the other languages could use it. So time and effort isn’t wasted in maintaining something that has little impact.

The economics of the “spying” are to improve the product and ecosystem. Is it “spying” when a municipality uses water usage metrics in neighborhoods to forecast need of new water projects? Or is it to discover your shower habits for nefarious reasons?

@prologic@twtxt.net short version: context is a linked list that is passed down a call stack that can share timeout, cancellation, or other data as needed by lower functions in the call stack.

@prologic@twtxt.net the rm -rf is basically what go clean -modcache does.
I think you can use another form that will remove just the deps for a specific module. go clean -r

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org haha, I wish!

@prologic@twtxt.net going to be a huge radio telescope. qorking on various scifi assets.

@bender@twtxt.net I do not like that either. too much noise there. Does not feel meaningful in any way yet.

@axodys@octobloc.xyz which one did you like?

@prologic@twtxt.net aha, a hater! Just the kind I was looking for some serious business that requires some fervent hating. Pay is good, you up to? :-D :-P

interesting that in my pod this is showing in reply to something.. but in the twtxt is has no subject.

@prologic@twtxt.net The parse is correct. this seems to be something with the markdown render.

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci Where did I hate on SQL databases? 🤔

@prologic@twtxt.net boo, boo, boooooo! :-D :-P

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org flawed is the right word, no harsh at all. Good reading, and thanks for supporting the possibility of convincing @prologic@twtxt.net to switch to a database! :-D :-P

@eldersnake@we.loveprivacy.club Several reasons:

• It’s another language to learn (SQL)
  
• It adds another dependency to your system
  
• It’s another failure mode (database blows up, scheme changes, indexs, etc)
  
• It increases security problems (now you have to worry about being SQL-safe)
  

And most of all, in my experience, it doesn’t actually solve any problems that a good key/value store can solve with good indexes and good data structures. I’m just no longer a fan, I used to use MySQL, SQLite, etc back in the day, these days, nope I wouldn’t even go anywhere near a database (for my own projects) if I can help it – It’s just another thing that can fail, another operational overhead.

@bender@twtxt.net You mean @eaplmx@twtxt.net’s reply didn’t show up in your mentions? 🤔

@bender@twtxt.net I honestly did not know they had one.. I thought it was cli only.

@prologic@twtxt.net I am not seeing some of my previous interactions. This one is an example: https://twtxt.net/conv/svvpd3a

@prologic@twtxt.net Me too! I really wanted to do some winter camping this year, but I have not been motivated enough to pack up and go when the weekend comes - but one day soon I will head out and do that :)

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci So.. The issue is that its showing the password by default? Would making an alias to always include the -c help? We can probably engage Jason with a PR to enable a more hardened approach when desired. I’ve spoken to him before and is generally a pretty open to ideas.

I found this app that was created by the gopass author that does copy by default and has a tui or GUI mode https://github.com/cortex/ripasso

@prologic@twtxt.net that is very true.

@prologic@twtxt.net I promise to join another time, we’re on our way out the door (heading to the mall).

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org yeah, I love to add that effect to images. :)

@prologic@twtxt.net thank you!

@movq@www.uninformativ.de @prologic@twtxt.net ah good point. Ill keep this in mind.

@prologic@twtxt.net @movq@www.uninformativ.de this is the default behavior of pass on my machine:

Image

I add a new password entry named example and then type pass example. The password I chose, “test”, is displayed in cleartext. This is very bad default behavior. I don’t know about the other clis you both mentioned but I’ll check them out.

The browser plugin browserpass does the same kind of thing, though I have already removed it and I’m not going to reinstall it to make a movie. Next to each credential there’s an icon to copy the username to the clipboard, an icon to copy the password to the clipboard, and then an icon to view details, which shows you everything, including the password, in cleartext. The screencap in the Chrome store is out of date; it doesn’t show the offending link to show all details, which I know is there because I literally installed it today and played with it.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de ok, good to know. Yeah I have static. But after thinking about it I’ll most likely set up the server side at home, that way I can more easily connect to other things at home from remote.

@eaplmx@twtxt.net Keepassx

@mckinley@twtxt.net i use pass along with the android and browser-pass clients. it is very good and keeping in sync is pretty simple.

@mckinley@twtxt.net very weird things going on for me.. i can see your twt but its not showing up as a reply or fork?

I don’t use twtxt anymore, but I keep accidentally adding logs to it because the command I use to use !say is so similar to the shortcut I use to make !zet messages. So, some of my logs make no sense because they are out of context.

@prologic@twtxt.net #ratchet #lives

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci i have an old copy of the 2005 version from university if you want to give it a read through. its quite dry.

@xuu@txt.sour.is I have always used : https://tranquillity.se/

@movq@uninformativ.de Glad you did not do that :) But took some time to get everything back up. But seems to run very well now.

@xuu@txt.sour.is yeah, I know less about ISO27k (in part because you have to pay for access to the complete standards documents!!!), but I figured it was similar.

@prologic@twtxt.net yap. This was an offer message to you. rachet-over-yarn mode enabled!

@prologic@twtxt.net vultr pricing is low. But it can be lower if you shop the less fancy admin ui sites like virmarch or ovh. There are some bare metal that cost way less.. Though the experience is less than optimal.

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci ISO 27001 is basically the same. It means that there is management sign off for a process to improve security is in place. Not that the system is secure. And ITIL is that managment signs off that problems and incidents should have processes defined.

Though its a good mess of words you can throw around while saying “management supports this so X needs to get done”

@prologic@twtxt.net !XO!1GcUL/ZbHj+CZnedB67ddd0tt3y1ppSLY7wbzMhraUeubCUH8LRT61pz6jPyOEa2wYYupwP7tu1cwR9mNN/k+No7PEw13kqBy6YvDU8jettw25Lkj3gZ+R4J1q6d0GWKKGx+OsYmJMPev7BL+5SCnt08qQYmgGAVhyhJZMkndIgk=!OX!

@prologic@twtxt.net that worked.. But took crazy long time

@prologic@twtxt.net test

@prologic@twtxt.net I get this error when replying to yarns.

@prologic@twtxt.net I have updated to kinda follow this. It now redirects to other webfingers if the resource has a different hostname. I’m still not sure what I should put multiple services with the same domain name. Like if they were to have conflicting properties.

@bender@twtxt.net Never heard of that before. Ill check it out :)

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci see here in the okta docs: https://developer.okta.com/docs/reference/api/webfinger/ they are adding a prefix to the acct

@xuu@txt.sour.is that doesn’t seem to fit the spirit of the spec, at least by my read (I could be wrong obv). The example on Wikipedia’s webfinger page,

{
	"subject": "acct:bob@example.com",
	"aliases": [
		"https://www.example.com/~bob/"
	],
	"properties": {
		"http://example.com/ns/role": "employee"
	},
	"links": [{
			"rel": "http://webfinger.example/rel/profile-page",
			"href": "https://www.example.com/~bob/"
		},
		{
			"rel": "http://webfinger.example/rel/businesscard",
			"href": "https://www.example.com/~bob/bob.vcf"
		}
	]
}

and then the comparison with how mastodon uses webfinger,

{
    "subject": "acct:Mastodon@mastodon.social",
    "aliases": [
        "https://mastodon.social/@Mastodon",
        "https://mastodon.social/users/Mastodon"
    ],
    "links": [
        {
            "rel": "http://webfinger.net/rel/profile-page",
            "type": "text/html",
            "href": "https://mastodon.social/@Mastodon"
        },
        {
            "rel": "self",
            "type": "application/activity+json",
            "href": "https://mastodon.social/users/Mastodon"
        },
        {
            "rel": "http://ostatus.org/schema/1.0/subscribe",
            "template": "https://mastodon.social/authorize_interaction?uri={uri}"
        }
    ]
}

suggests to me you want to leave the subject/acct bit as is (don’t add prefixes) and put extra information you care to include in the links section, where you’re free to define the rel URIs however you see fit. The notion here is that webfinger is offering a mapping from an account name to additional information about that account, so if anything you’d use a "subject": "acct:SALTY ACCOUNT_REPRESENTATION" line in the JSON to achieve what you’re saying if you don’t want to do that via links.

@prologic@twtxt.net Unfortunately the RFC’s are a bit light in this regard. While it makes mention of different kinds of accounts like mailto: or status services.. it never combines them. It does make mention of using redirects to forward a request to other webfingers to provide additional detail.

I am kinda partial to using salty:acct:me@sour.is, yarn:acct:xuu@txt.sour.is, mailto:me@sour.is that could redirect to a specific service. and a parent account acct:me@sour.is that would reference them in some way. either in properties or aliases.

@prologic@twtxt.net That was exactly my thought at first too. but what do we put as the rel for salty account? since it is decentralized we dont have a set URL for machines to key off. so for example take the standard response from okta:

# http GET https://example.okta.com/.well-known/webfinger  resource==acct:bob
{
    "links": [
        {
            "href": "https://example.okta.com/sso/idps/OKTA?login_hint=bob#",
            "properties": {
                "okta:idp:type": "OKTA"
            },
            "rel": "http://openid.net/specs/connect/1.0/issuer",
            "titles": {
                "und": "example"
            }
        }
    ],
    "subject": "acct:bob"
}

It gives one link that follows the OpenID login. So the details are specific to the subject acct:bob.

Mastodons response:

{
  "subject": "acct:xuu@chaos.social",
  "aliases": [
    "https://chaos.social/@xuu",
    "https://chaos.social/users/xuu"
  ],
  "links": [
    {
      "rel": "http://webfinger.net/rel/profile-page",
      "type": "text/html",
      "href": "https://chaos.social/@xuu"
    },
    {
      "rel": "self",
      "type": "application/activity+json",
      "href": "https://chaos.social/users/xuu"
    },
    {
      "rel": "http://ostatus.org/schema/1.0/subscribe"
    }
  ]
}

it supplies a profile page and a self which are both specific to that account.

@prologic@twtxt.net I think I spoke too soon. Got it running at https://arrakis.netbros.com/, for now. 😂

It seems like https://proxy.vulpes.one/ runs a code that once was written by @prologic@twtxt.net. Its rendering looks quite nice. Sadly, I am unable to compile it (modified code at https://git.vulpes.one/gopherproxy/).

@prologic@twtxt.net What is the SMART reading for the disk?

projects: built raven, a small twtxt client in go

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org As far as I know, they’re still visible in the Web UI. Although, in the mobile app and youtube.com, I believe it tells you that the video isn’t available without having to click on it. They don’t tell you that in the RSS feed, and I agree; it gets annoying.

If we had a custom feed generator that hooks directly into the YouTube API, I’ll bet we could find that information and put “[Scheduled][Scheduled][Scheduled][Scheduled][Scheduled][Scheduled][Scheduled][Scheduled]” in the title for premieres and remove it when the video is available.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org As far as I know, they’re still visible in the Web UI. Although, in the mobile app and youtube.com, I believe it tells you that the video isn’t available without having to click on it. They don’t tell you that in the RSS feed, and I agree; it gets annoying.

If we had a custom feed generator that hooks directly into the YouTube API, I’ll bet we could find that information and put “[Scheduled][Scheduled=][Scheduled][Scheduled=][Scheduled][Scheduled=][Scheduled][Scheduled=]” in the title for premieres and remove it when the video is available.

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci & @prologic@twtxt.net: thank you for resolving the issue with refresh property!

@jdtron@tilde.team You have my axe!

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci did you know about the chip inside USB-C cables?

https://connectorsupplier.com/usb-type-c-what-you-need-to-know/

some groups have created their own chips that have hidden keyloggers that can phone home over network connections.

https://shop.hak5.org/products/omg-cable

Have a great new year @prologic and twtxt.

Did something chchange with how the discover feed is generated? My pods logout mode now only shows my twts. It used to be all twts from watcher observation like my logged on discover tab. @prologic@twtxt.net

One of the frustrating parts of using twtxt for conversations is the URLs are, well… ugly. Anyone (like y’all yarn folks) looked at using webfinger for translating user@domain accounts to URLs?

More specifically: Will this be expanded into something like Gitea with the concept of users and organizations, or will it stay with a simple flat repository model like upstream legit or cgit?

Also, the shorthand mention syntax has struck again. Apologies, @justamoment@twtxt.net.

@prologic@twtxt.net and @justamoment, this Gitxt project sounds really interesting. Can you tell us about some of your goals?

Testing that mentions are expanding in twtwt: @win0err@kolesnikov.se

@prologic@twtxt.net billionaires don’t exist. That many resources tied up by single individuals muck up the whole system.

@prologic@twtxt.net see where its used maybe that can help.
https://github.com/sour-is/ev/blob/main/app/peerfinder/http.go#L153

This is an upsert. So I pass a streamID which is like a globally unique id for the object. And then see how the type of the parameter in the function is used to infer the generic type. In the function it will create a new *Info and populate it from the datastore to pass to the function. The func will do its modifications and if it returns a nil error it will commit the changes.

The PA type contract ensures that the type fulfills the Aggregate interface and is a pointer to type at compile time.

@lucidiot@tilde.town Hi, back!

@deepend@yourtilde.com We here in the twtxt universe are too Calm™ for the birdsite. Its dramas — which are neverending — do not concern us. Its madness is not our own. Isn’t it a great feeling to be separate from all that?

@prologic@twtxt.net so basically you would use cgit + gitbug with some webhooks?

@ocdtrekkie@twtxt.net @bender@twtxt.net The whole ActivityPub integration of Gitea for so-called “Federation” (which btw is a bullshit term) is just total nonsense. I mean I “get it”, and understand the motivations behind it, but FFS, it would have been done without ActivityPub 🤦‍♂️

Hey @prologic@twtxt.net, are you planning on switching git.mills.io over to Forgejo when it launches?

@prologic@twtxt.net I guess that refresh field could be easily replaced with Expires HTTP header (I realize that users on neocities.org cannot control this header, for example). And clients should also respect headers like Last-Modified/If-Modified-Since (304), you’re right about that. P.S. twtwt doens’t have a caching mechanism for now, but I plan to implement it in generic way using HTTP headers.

@win0err@kolesnikov.se @prologic@twtxt.net @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org never seen aurora, but there are nights (after solar storms) that people get to see it here in the south of Norway, but I have not seen it my self yet. But I sure wish to one day.

@prologic@twtxt.net: Reduced refresh interval to 7200 seconds :-)

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org: Thank you, it’s really nice to hear that! Sometimes I think I’m a moss, because I really love northern nature :D Pixelfed is very slow indeed, and also buggy. @prologic@twtxt.net: I plan to add an RSS feed for the photography page instead of cross-posting to twtxt.txt. Maybe I should post updates of my website here? For example, I made a fancy New Year’s design of https://kolesnikov.se (which makes @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org’s eyes hurt, haha)

@prologic@twtxt.net: I understand the benefits of using hashes, it’s much easier to implement client applications (at the expense of ease of use without the proper client). I must say that I like the way the metadata extension is done. Simple and elegant! It’s hard to design simple things!

@prologic@twtxt.net On the one hand, twtxt has become more popular thanks to Yarn.social. On the other hand, subject and hashtag extensions took away the simplicity of the protocol. For example, it is impossible to understand which conversation (#base32hash) a tweet refers to or to reply to a tweet without going to a yarn.social pod. Compare with re: in this tweet which can be written without using any client at all

@prologic@twtxt.net: Hmm, I just checked, it should work. Anyway, I will post updates about the project. First of all, I want to complete some features and create packages with pre-compiled binaries

I switched from twtxt client to twtwt (https://github.com/win0err/twtwt). It’s a pre-alpha version now, but it works pretty well and so much faster than the official twtxt client by @buckket@buckket.org. Feel free to check it out :-)

@prologic@twtxt.net I started to write a snarky twt about Kafka and then deleted it because I didn’t want to be too negative 😆

Tutorial: Getting started with generics - The Go Programming Language – Okay @xuu@txt.sour.is I quite like Go’s generics now 🤣 After going through this myself I like the semantics and the syntax. I’m glad they did a lot of work on this to keep it simple to both understand and use (just like the rest of Go) 👌 #GoLang #Generics

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org thank you!

@justamoment@twtxt.net cool!

@prologic@twtxt.net its only a Pre-JR dev level.

ChatGPT is good, but it’s not that good 🤣 I asked it to write a program in Go that performs double ratcheting and well the code is total garbage 😅 – Its only as good as the inputs it was trained on 🤣 #OpenAI #GPT3

@prologic@twtxt.net @justamoment@twtxt.net Yep, my back yard security cam. And my poor weather station buried in the snow.

@prologic@twtxt.net NFT non-enthusiast for the #NFT #rebuttal