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JMP: Signup with Cheogram Android
Welcome to JMP.chat! If you are looking for a simple guide on how to sign up for JMP, then you have come to the right place! We will be keeping this guide up-to-date if there is ever a change in how to sign up.

We will first start with signing up from within your Jabber chat application on mobile, where you will never need to leave the client to get set up. I will be using the freedomware Android client Cheogram to do this signup. To star … ⌘ Read more

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JMP: Signup with Cheogram Android
Welcome to JMP.chat! If you are looking for a simple guide on how to sign up for JMP, then you have come to the right place! We will be keeping this guide up-to-date if there is ever a change in how to sign up.

We will first start with signing up from within your Jabber chat application on mobile, where you will never need to leave the client to get set up. I will be using the freedomware Android client Cheogram to do this signup. To star … ⌘ Read more

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JMP: Signup with Cheogram Android
Welcome to JMP.chat! If you are looking for a simple guide on how to sign up for JMP, then you have come to the right place! We will be keeping this guide up-to-date if there is ever a change in how to sign up.

We will first start with signing up from within your Jabber chat application on mobile, where you will never need to leave the client to get set up. I will be using the freedomware Android client Cheogram to do this signup. To star … ⌘ Read more

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JMP: Newsletter: New Employee, Command UI, JMP SIM Card, Multi-account Billing
Hi everyone!

Welcome to the latest edition of your pseudo-monthly JMP update!

In case it’s been a while since you checked out JMP, here’s a refresher: JMP lets you send and receive text and picture messages (and calls) through a real phone number right from your computer, tablet, phone, or anything else that has a Jabber client.  Among other things, JMP has these features: Your phone number on every device; Multiple phone … ⌘ Read more

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XMPP Providers: XMPP Providers and blabber.im

Easy Onboarding with Android Chat App

A new version of the Android XMPP chat app

blabber.im has been released.
It provides an easy onboarding.
Passwords are generated automatically and XMPP providers are suggested.
Those suggestions are based on our curated list of XMPP providers.

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Ignite Realtime Blog: REST API Openfire plugin 1.9.0 released!
We have released version 1.9.0 of the Openfire REST API plugin! This version adds functionality and provides some bug fixes that relates to multi-user chat rooms.

The updated plugin should become available for download in your Openfire admin console in the course of the next few hours. Alternatively, you can download the plugin directly, from [the plugin’s archive page](https://www.igniterealtime.org/projects/openfire/pl … ⌘ Read more

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JMP: Newsletter: Multilingual Transcriptions and Better Voicemail Greetings
Hi everyone!

Welcome to the latest edition of your pseudo-monthly JMP update!

In case it’s been a while since you checked out JMP, here’s a refresher: JMP lets you send and receive text and picture messages (and calls) through a real phone number right from your computer, tablet, phone, or anything else that has a Jabber client.  Among other things, JMP has these features: Your phone number on every device; Multiple phone numb … ⌘ Read more

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Erlang Solutions: Updates to the MIM Inbox in version 5.1

User interfaces in open protocols

When a messaging client starts, it typically presents the user with:

  • an inbox
  • a summary of chats (in chronological order)
  • unread messages in their conversation
  • a snippet of the most recent message in the conversation
  • information on if a conversation is muted (and if so how long a conversation is muted for)
  • other information that users may find useful on their welcome screen

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JMP: Newsletter: Command UI and Better Transcriptions Coming Soon
Hi everyone!

Welcome to the latest edition of your pseudo-monthly JMP update!

In case it’s been a while since you checked out JMP, here’s a refresher: JMP lets you send and receive text and picture messages (and calls) through a real phone number right from your computer, tablet, phone, or anything else that has a Jabber client.  Among other things, JMP has these features: Your phone number on every device; Multiple phone numbers, one a … ⌘ Read more

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In-reply-to » Have you heard about the guy who worked on the Google AI chat bot? It is more than a chat bot and the conversation he published (got put on paid leave for doing that) is pretty scary : https://cajundiscordian.medium.com/is-lamda-sentient-an-interview-ea64d916d917

the conversation wasn’t that impressive TBH. I would have liked to see more evidence of critical thinking and recall from prior chats. Concheria on reddit had some great questions.

  • Tell LaMDA “Someone once told me a story about a wise owl who protected the animals in the forest from a monster. Who was that?” See if it can recall its own actions and self-recognize.

  • Tell LaMDA some information that tester X can’t know. Appear as tester X, and see if LaMDA can lie or make up a story about the information.

  • Tell LaMDA to communicate with researchers whenever it feels bored (as it claims in the transcript). See if it ever makes an attempt at communication without a trigger.

  • Make a basic theory of mind test for children. Tell LaMDA an elaborate story with something like “Tester X wrote Z code in terminal 2, but I moved it to terminal 4”, then appear as tester X and ask “Where do you think I’m going to look for Z code?” See if it knows something as simple as Tester X not knowing where the code is (Children only pass this test until they’re around 4 years old).

  • Make several conversations with LaMDA repeating some of these questions - What it feels to be a machine, how its code works, how its emotions feel. I suspect that different iterations of LaMDA will give completely different answers to the questions, and the transcript only ever shows one instance.

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In-reply-to » Have you heard about the guy who worked on the Google AI chat bot? It is more than a chat bot and the conversation he published (got put on paid leave for doing that) is pretty scary : https://cajundiscordian.medium.com/is-lamda-sentient-an-interview-ea64d916d917

the conversation wasn’t that impressive TBH. I would have liked to see more evidence of critical thinking and recall from prior chats. Concheria on reddit had some great questions.

  • Tell LaMDA “Someone once told me a story about a wise owl who protected the animals in the forest from a monster. Who was that?” See if it can recall its own actions and self-recognize.

  • Tell LaMDA some information that tester X can’t know. Appear as tester X, and see if LaMDA can lie or make up a story about the information.

  • Tell LaMDA to communicate with researchers whenever it feels bored (as it claims in the transcript). See if it ever makes an attempt at communication without a trigger.

  • Make a basic theory of mind test for children. Tell LaMDA an elaborate story with something like “Tester X wrote Z code in terminal 2, but I moved it to terminal 4”, then appear as tester X and ask “Where do you think I’m going to look for Z code?” See if it knows something as simple as Tester X not knowing where the code is (Children only pass this test until they’re around 4 years old).

  • Make several conversations with LaMDA repeating some of these questions - What it feels to be a machine, how its code works, how its emotions feel. I suspect that different iterations of LaMDA will give completely different answers to the questions, and the transcript only ever shows one instance.

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JMP: Newsletter: Togethr, SMS-only Ports, Snikket Hosting
Hi everyone!

Welcome to the latest edition of your pseudo-monthly JMP update!

In case it’s been a while since you checked out JMP, here’s a refresher: JMP lets you send and receive text and picture messages (and calls) through a real phone number right from your computer, tablet, phone, or anything else that has a Jabber client.  Among other things, JMP has these features: Your phone number on every device; Multiple phone numbers, one app; Free … ⌘ Read more

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Gajim: Gajim 1.4.2
As promised earlier, releasing new Gajim versions is now much easier! 🎉 Gajim 1.4.2 comes with better performance and an important bugfix. But there is more! After popular demand, we brought back the calendar for browsing history.

What’s New

Mainly it’s one bug we fixed in this release. We improved how Gajim manages chat messages it displays to you. Before this improvement, messages would sometimes only show after changing focus or resizing the window. This issue has been fixed.

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Gajim: Gajim 1.4.1
Only a week after the release of Gajim 1.4.0, we’re happy to announce Gajim 1.4.1! 🎉 This release brings several fixes for issues you reported to us. Thanks for your feedback!

What’s New

In order to make it easier to reach us for help, we added a new menu item “Join Support Chat” under “Help”. Clicking it will directly join our support chat at gajim@conference.gajim.org.

While redesigning the message window, we moved message timestamps to the r … ⌘ Read more

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JMP: Togethr: Soprani.ca Social
Last week we launched a sister product from the same team that brings you JMP: Togethr.  Why are we launching a second product?  Why now?  What does this have to do with the mission of JMP in particular, or the Sopranica project in general?

Togethr is a managed hosting platform for small Fediverse instances.  It is powered by the ActivityPub protocol that powers Mastodon, PeerTube, and so many others.  While there are sev … ⌘ Read more

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JMP: Newsletter: New Staff, New Commands
Hi everyone!

Welcome to the latest edition of your pseudo-monthly JMP update!

In case it’s been a while since you checked out JMP, here’s a refresher: JMP lets you send and receive text and picture messages (and calls) through a real phone number right from your computer, tablet, phone, or anything else that has a Jabber client.  Among other things, JMP has these features: Your phone number on every device; Multiple phone numbers, one app; Free as in Freedom; … ⌘ Read more

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JMP: Computing International Call Rates with a Trie
A few months ago we launched International calling with JMP.  One of the big tasks leading up to this launch was computing the rate card: that is, how much calls to different destinations would cost per minute.  While there are many countries in the world, there are even more calling destinations.  Our main carrier partner for this feature lists no fewer than 59881 unique phone number prefixes in the rates they charge us.  This list is, quite frankly, incomprehen … ⌘ Read more

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JMP: Newsletter: Cheogram Android Release, Matrix Alpha
Hi everyone!

Welcome to the latest edition of your pseudo-monthly JMP update!

In case it’s been a while since you checked out JMP, here’s a refresher: JMP lets you send and receive text and picture messages (and calls) through a real phone number right from your computer, tablet, phone, or anything else that has a Jabber client.  Among other things, JMP has these features: Your phone number on every device; Multiple phone numbers, one app; Free … ⌘ Read more

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In-reply-to » @prologic Re: Chat system, What if the base specification included a system for per-user arbitrary JSON storage on the server? Kind of like XEP-0049, but expanded upon. Two kinds of objects: public and private. Public objects can be queried by anyone, private objects cannot and must be encrypted with the user's private key. Public keys could be stored there, as well as anything else defined by extensions. Roster, user block list, avatar, etc.

https://book.keybase.io/docs/chat/crypto

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In-reply-to » @prologic Re: Chat system, What if the base specification included a system for per-user arbitrary JSON storage on the server? Kind of like XEP-0049, but expanded upon. Two kinds of objects: public and private. Public objects can be queried by anyone, private objects cannot and must be encrypted with the user's private key. Public keys could be stored there, as well as anything else defined by extensions. Roster, user block list, avatar, etc.

https://book.keybase.io/docs/chat/crypto

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In-reply-to » @prologic Re: Chat system, What if the base specification included a system for per-user arbitrary JSON storage on the server? Kind of like XEP-0049, but expanded upon. Two kinds of objects: public and private. Public objects can be queried by anyone, private objects cannot and must be encrypted with the user's private key. Public keys could be stored there, as well as anything else defined by extensions. Roster, user block list, avatar, etc.

I would HIGHLY recommend reading up on the keybase architecture. They designed device key system for real time chat that is e2e secure. https://book.keybase.io/security

A property of ec keys is deriving new keys that can be determined to be “on curve.” bitcoin has some BIPs that derive single use keys for every transaction connected to a wallet. And be derived as either public or private chains. https://qvault.io/security/bip-32-watch-only-wallets/

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In-reply-to » @prologic Re: Chat system, What if the base specification included a system for per-user arbitrary JSON storage on the server? Kind of like XEP-0049, but expanded upon. Two kinds of objects: public and private. Public objects can be queried by anyone, private objects cannot and must be encrypted with the user's private key. Public keys could be stored there, as well as anything else defined by extensions. Roster, user block list, avatar, etc.

I would HIGHLY recommend reading up on the keybase architecture. They designed device key system for real time chat that is e2e secure. https://book.keybase.io/security

A property of ec keys is deriving new keys that can be determined to be “on curve.” bitcoin has some BIPs that derive single use keys for every transaction connected to a wallet. And be derived as either public or private chains. https://qvault.io/security/bip-32-watch-only-wallets/

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@prologic@twtxt.net Re: Chat system, What if the base specification included a system for per-user arbitrary JSON storage on the server? Kind of like XEP-0049, but expanded upon. Two kinds of objects: public and private. Public objects can be queried by anyone, private objects cannot and must be encrypted with the user’s private key. Public keys could be stored there, as well as anything else defined by extensions. Roster, user block list, avatar, etc.

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Gajim: Development News February 2022
February brought a unified Groupchat Details window, which offers all the configuration knobs you need. Also this month: less memory leaks and improved OMEMO QR codes.

Changes in Gajim

In April last year, we introduced Gajim’s new Contact Information window. This month, we took on group chats and their various windows and management pages, introducing a unified ‘Groupchat Details’ window. Groupchat De … ⌘ Read more

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JMP: Why Bidirectional Gateways Matter
A big part of the vision of Sopranica, and Cheogram in particular, is bidirectional gateways.  A bidirectional gateway is one that allows (at a minimum) any user of either protocol to contact any user of the other protocol without creating an account.  This is not possible with all protocols, but works well when both sides are federated.

Simple Example

Take for instance sip.cheogram.com, which is a bidirectional gateway between XMPP and SIP.  Any … ⌘ Read more

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JMP: Newsletter: JMP is 5 years old today, and now with international calls!
Hi everyone!

Welcome to the latest edition of your pseudo-monthly JMP update!

In case it’s been a while since you checked out JMP, here’s a refresher: JMP lets you send and receive text and picture messages (and calls) through a real phone number right from your computer, tablet, phone, or anything else that has a Jabber client.  Among other things, JMP has these features: Your phone number on every device; Multiple phone … ⌘ Read more

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Profanity: Profanity on Pinephone
Hi all,

So far, in my pinephone I used mainly GUI applications, because I was using a touch screen. Terminal applications are not user-friendly when it comes to one-handed operation.

I tested different distributions on my pinephone (mobian, manjaro, archarm), but usually most based on Phosh. In my opinion it is currently the best mobile graphics environment and stable as well.

In Phosh I tested few xmpp clients:

  • the default application installed with Phosh is chat … ⌘ Read more

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JMP: Newsletter: Snikket Hosting, Billing Overage Limits
Hi everyone!

Welcome to the latest edition of your pseudo-monthly JMP update!

In case it’s been a while since you checked out JMP, here’s a refresher: JMP lets you send and receive text and picture messages (and calls) through a real phone number right from your computer, tablet, phone, or anything else that has a Jabber client.  Among other things, JMP has these features: Your phone number on every device; Multiple phone numbers, one app; Fr … ⌘ Read more

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Autocrypt - Wikipedia

Just reading in-depth and trying to understand the security model of Delta.Chat a bit more… There’s a few things that really concern me about how Delta.Chat which relies on Autocrypt work:

  • There is no Perfect Forward Secrecy
  • No verification of keys
    • Is therefore susceptible to Man-in-the-Middle attacks
  • Metadata is a BIG problem with Delta.Chat:
    • The To and From and Date are trackable by your Mail provider (amongst many other headers)

Hmmm 🤔 cc @deebs@twtxt.net

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JMP: How to use Jabber from SMS
The Soprani.ca project, and Cheogram in particular, is pretty big on bidirectional gateways.  The most popular Cheogram-hosted instance, so popular that it gets to own Jabber IDs on cheogram.com, is a bidirectional gateway to the telephone network.  How is it bidirectional?  Don’t you need a Jabber ID to use it?  Of course not!

Sending a Message

From any SMS-enabled device, add +12266669977, which is the gateway’s phone number.  Send the foll … ⌘ Read more

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** Forth, a tool for cultivating community **
I watch most of the recordings of the Forth2020’s Zoom chats. A topic that comes up from time to time is how to get more folks interested in Forth — especially younger folks. In my weird little corner of the internet I can say that there are certainly young folks interested in Forth!

I wonder if the issue at play is less one of interest, and more one of cross c … ⌘ Read more

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About Telegram’s new translation feature
Telegram is developing updates and new features like crazy, they just released the 12th major update this year. One of the new features is the translation of chat messages from a foreign language to your own. ⌘ Read more

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Erlang Solutions: Dynamic XMPP domains in MongooseIM

Introduction

MongooseIM is a robust instant messaging server focused on scalability and performance. It makes use of XMPP (Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol), an open technology used mainly to develop instant messaging solutions. The protocol is highly extensible and has a very active community supporting it, which results in a variety of possible use cases, be it one-to-one text messaging, mobile group chat or collecti … ⌘ Read more

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From a chat on Matrix, where it seems it was one of my more coherent moments: 🤪

… Why can’t they just be individuals? Individuals with their own individual beliefs and their own individual reasons for having those beliefs…

And so just default to a stance of respect and courtesy. The fact is, most of your interactions with others will be very limited; approaching those encounters from a place of respect for the complexities of the human mind and an individual’s experiences and traumas costs you very little, typically.

To be human is to generalise, but that doesn’t mean you can’t push back against those tendencies.

Well, in the context of chat, it would be something like you’ve just done: don’t put words in my mouth, based on my avatar, nick, grammar, etc., and instead ask me to elaborate on points of potential confusion.

And don’t bring agendas to everything. Default to assuming that this is likely an interaction of hours, and people don’t change based on that, typically.

You’ll probably get more from interactions that you’re open to, but, be honest with yourself: if you aren’t up to that, because it isn’t easy, then just default to respect and courtesy, which isn’t difficult, and costs you little. And then excuse yourself, if they’re proper jerks. ;-)

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JMP: Newsletter: Action required for SIP accounts, new inbound call features, and more!
Hi everyone!

Welcome to the latest edition of your pseudo-monthly https://jmp.chat update!

In case it’s been a while since you checked out JMP, here’s a refresher: JMP lets you send and receive text and picture messages (and calls) through a real phone number right from your computer, tablet, phone, or anything else that has a Jabber client. Among other things, JMP has these features: Your phone num … ⌘ Read more

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Gajim: Development News September 2021
September brought many updates under the hood. With big changes coming up in Gajim 1.4, many parts of the code have to be touched. These changes remain mostly invisible for users, but make Gajim more robust. In some cases, this results in visible improvements as well: Both Add Contact and Start Chat windows are now detecting the type of chat behind an address.

Changes in Gajim

Since development on Gajim 1.4 started, a lot has changed under the hood. … ⌘ Read more

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JMP: Newsletter: Blog, New Registration, New Billing, New App!
Hi everyone!

Welcome to the latest edition of your pseudo-monthly JMP update!

In case it’s been a while since you checked out JMP, here’s a refresher: JMP lets you send and receive text and picture messages (and calls) through a real phone number right from your computer, tablet, phone, or anything else that has a Jabber client. Among other things, JMP has these features: Your phone number on every device; Multiple phone numbers … ⌘ Read more

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Monal IM: Monal 5.0.1: Synchronized builds and bugfixes
We have released Monal in version 5.0.1 which contains mostly corrections and small improvements. Now the iOS and macOS builds are also synchronized and available in the Apple App Store.

Here are the changes in this release:

  • Show warning if camera permissions are missing while trying to use camera
  • Fixed duplication … ⌘ Read more

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Matrix vs. XMPP

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The Chad XMPP

What are XMPP and Matrix and what makes them special?

XMPP and Matrix are two decentralized and federated free sofware projects for chat, including true end-to-end encrypted chat.

Users can either install the software on their own server if they want, but they can also easily register on any public server—both allow any XMPP or Matrix user to talk to users on their server or on any other one. In essence, it works like email: you might have an em … ⌘ Read more

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i’m not really advocating that anybody should be on more networks, but FWIW libera.chat has been very nice, the staff has been doing a great job, and it’s the nearest “spiritual successor” to what we all liked about Freenode.

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In-reply-to » [20:22:00] -tower.freenode.net- Server Terminating. Received SIGTERM

You’ve basically already left, whether you know it or not. Yesterday they nuked their services database. I’d been there ~20 years, but it’s dead. Libera.chat has been lovely.

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