Almost sure it would look even better if you removed CSS altogether for IE3, and the like. Your site is clean as a whistle, just vanilla, no CSS.

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz since rebuilding eunoia in astro i’ve had soooo much fun with it and i don’t even like JS

@prologic@twtxt.net interesting that ruby is so low on the list, i find it the easiest to learn! hell i struggle with python more than ruby and i’ve been told that python is like ruby but better lol. maybe it’s just my weird brain!

@movq@www.uninformativ.de help yeah i struggle so hard with this stuff! it’s why wordier languages like ruby come easier to me

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Ah, I see. I would assume that you’ll get used to it at some point. 🤔 But yeah, a lot of meaning is packed into these symbols. (It’s much, much worse with languages like Rust. 😅)

@prologic@twtxt.net what’s to like? :-P

@bender@twtxt.net What’s not to like? 😅

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I don’t like Golang much either, but I am not a programmer. This little site, Go by example might explain a thing or two.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de i feel like when i read go code i’m reading some algebra shit where every part is 1-5 letters long and then there’s weird symbols like := and it’s just infinitely harder for me to parse and infer meaning from lol. it’s such a me problem

i wish it was realistic for me to learn golang but every single time i try to comprehend any go code i’m like What the fuck am i looking at. why is all of this so short and condensed GIVE ME VERBOSE CODE

Over the past few weeks I’ve been experimenting with and doing some deep learning and researching into neutral networks and evolutionary adaptation of them. The thing is I haven’t gotten very far. I’ve been able to build two different approaches so far with limited results. The frustrating part is that these things are so “random” it isn’t even funny. Like I can’t even get a basic ANN + GA to evolve a network that solves the XOR pattern every time with high levels of accuracy. 😞

@prologic@twtxt.net What I meant, is that I will not say that someone is not really a writer, if they choose to have what they wrote, ran through some spelling and sentence structure checker, like the one included in MS Word, the average phone keyboard, or on reverso.net - given that they look over the output and make sure the corrections make sense.

Similarly, I won’t complain much, if someone uses AI, to remove backgrounds from images, where the AI can preform this task, as well as a human would and makes sure to check it afterwards, or use ai as a way to sort large quantities of images - usually done for science. An example of this, would be having terabytes of plant photos, from some cities camera system and having an AI analyse them, in an attempt to detect notable changes, like mold, parasites, or the plants needing more water.

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Ta! The dead end wasn’t all that bad in my opinion. Personally, I really do like dirt paths and exploring. It was all dried up, so no muddy mess we had to walk through. More like climbing over thick branches that have been worked into the ground by harvesters or forwarders in the muddy winter. Rough terrain. My mate, on the other hand – whose idea it was to check out the real summit in the first place ;-) — wasn’t all that pleased about the detour. Oh well. :-D

@bender@twtxt.net @prologic@twtxt.net Jokes aside, I don’t think that’s the right approach either. We had spell checkers, since I can remember, as well as other tools, like the smart image select, used mostly to remove backgrounds. These are tools, that just simplify the process of either opening up a dictionary and looking up a word, you can’t remember the spelling of, or the process of placing a billion little dots around the part of an image you want to select - none of these are creative or enjoyable tasks, we already had tools for them, decades before AI. I don’t think we need to go back to cave paintings, to be free of AIs influence on our creative work.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org that’s alright haha! i don’t expect anyone to listen/watch in full or with full attention bc it’s so long lmao

the thing with PHP for me is that i… feel like it hits a kind of simplicity that i can understand? it’s so plain but can be very powerful. i quite like that. as much as i can learn something infinitely more powerful, PHP hits a comfortable thing where i can handle things like backend sqlite DBs AND how a page is rendered, without requiring a complex frontend with its own quirks (like ruby on rails, which as much as i know and love it, can be heavy).

but i totally get you! PHP security is very scary. i’m always worried that i’m messing something up. it’s why the PHP application i’m working on i have dockerized by default for a small but extra layer of protection

i’ll try to not get discouraged tysm for your advice

@prologic@twtxt.net That’s an interesting premise in that article:

The fun has been sucked out of the process of creation because nothing I make organically can compete with what AI already produces—or soon will.

This is like saying it’s pointless to make music yourself because some professional player/audio engineer does a better job. Really, there’s always someone or something that’s better than you at a particular job.

If we focus too much on “competition”, then yes, you can just stop doing anything. I don’t know how common this mindset is, especially among artists or creative people. 🤔 I would have assumed that many writers, for example, simply enjoy the process of writing. Am I being too naive once more? 🤣

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I’m glad you like that raven. :-) This is the original for when you get a screen as big as an entire wall one day: https://lyse.isobeef.org/abendhimmel-2025-05-16/01.JPG

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I only listened to you while going through my photos, so I did not pay very close attention. :-)

Since you have a proper server – haha, not just one – and hence are not limited, I suggest you learn a real programming language and don’t waste your time with this PHP mess. It might have improved a wee bit since I was a kid, but it felt like some hacked together shit. The defaults also were questionable at best, it was easier to hold it wrong than right. This stands testament to bad design and is especially terrible from a security point of view.

You’re right, programming is like any other craft. You only truly learn by actually doing it. And this just takes time. Very long time to master it. Or as close to as it gets. The more you know, the more you realize what else you don’t know (yet). It’s a never ending process. So, take it easy, don’t get discouraged, happy hacking and enjoy the endeavor! :-)

whys my feed back to showing like 5 twts

Buying a TV these days, means trying to avoid endless enshitification:
-Spyware and adware
-Shitty AI upscaling/ frame interpolation
-HW that breaks after 2 - 3 years
-One off OS, dead on arrival
-Android OS, that starts lagging after the third update
-8 buttons worth of ads, on your remote

You probably have to make some kind of a compromise. I thought that was buying from some other brand like Hyundai, but that one also felt into some of those categories and just broke, after less than 3 years of use. At this point I’ll probably go back to LG and hope their HW is still reliable and the rest manageable… It has AI bullshit and knowing LG, probably some spyware you have to try your best to get rid of, can buy a remote with “only” 2 ads on it, some web-based OS shared between all their TVs, that usually gets 4 - 5 years worth of updates and works decently enough afterwards.

At this point, I’ll probably settle for anything that doesn’t literally fall apart, not even 3 years in, like the Hyundai did.

@bender@twtxt.net SUPER talented like the way she does her illustrations is crazy!!!

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I can’t read. 🤦 Yeah, that’s gonna be a problem. I was not yet able to trigger it, though. Maybe they are (like Google) rolling out these changes gradually …

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah, we’re pattern matching machines. :-) Only the trans5c preview looks like a brain to me. :-) Trans4 is a bacterium.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de They already do:

[…] These changes will apply to operations like cloning repositories over HTTPS […]

On a positive note: Finally time to get rid of as many Go dependencies as possible. :-)

static site generators make website-ing so fun like i wanna do so much with my site now

@prologic@twtxt.net oh yeah a friend of mine ran into that after they forgot to log in while we were working on something together, it was nuts lol

like wouldn’t it be easier to do proof of work or something?!?!

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org It’s funny/interesting what people see in these. 😃 @aelaraji@aelaraji.com said that some of them look like a brain on a reflective surface, and now I can’t unsee it. 😅

@prologic@twtxt.net where on IRC? Network, channel, nick? IRC is vast! It’s like saying, “meet me in Australia, and we go from there!” 😅

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz i’m so obsessed like now i actually wanna play with the site more https://bytes.4-walls.net/kat/eunoia-astro

i got so emo about my site not being statically generated and instead hand coded but it’s like i don’t even know if i want that because i feel most SSGs are built for blogging and continuous posting and i don’t want that i just want to make my silly pages….

that being said, the one i’d use if i did switch to one would be astro and that one is so flexible i could really do anything with it including keeping my pages as is mostly without doing the blog stuff. idk! something to consider

@movq@www.uninformativ.de the flags are SO WEIRD AND CONFUSING especially tar which all look keysmashed and make no sense and the order matters apparently?!?! and find is SO SLOW and when i look at a typical command for it on stack overflow it looks like fucking regex it’s EVILLLLL LMAO

@bender@twtxt.net I like to self-host 🤣

@prologic@twtxt.net you are certainly a special case of a luddite. Or you like to self-punish. Or both! LOL.

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Ahh but you’re like one of a very few that actually own domains and do interesting things 😅

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org … and I realized only now that that’s the guy behind godbolt.org? I never assumed “godbolt” to be a human name, more like some kind of wordplay. 🥴

One thing about my design here is that it would no longer incorporate “regex”-based rules like OWASP, mostly because my experience thus far has taught me that these rules are kind of overly sensitive, produce false positives and I’m not sure they are really very effective. For example, why is the point of performing SQL injection detection at the Edge using a WAF if you already handle SQL properly in the first place? (seriously does anyone still construct SQL queries by hand with effectively printf?!)

Also spent the morning continuing to think about a new design for EdgeGuard’s WAF. I’m basically going to build an entirely new pluggable WAF that will be designed to only consider Rate Limiting, IP/ASN-based filtering, JavaScript challenge handling, Basic behavioral analysis and Anomaly detection.

The only part of this design I’m not 100% sure about is the Javascript-based challenge handling? 🤔 I’m also considering making this into a “proof of work” requirement too, but I also don’t want to falsely block folks that a) turn Javascript™ off or b) Use a browser like links, elinks or lynx for example.

Hmmm 🧐

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org oooh that’s a good point! woodworking is scary and i don’t have much room for it but i do have SOME room in mind that could work for it… i feel like i’d just hurt myself in the process though LOL

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz That’s cool. Also, looks like a fun woodworking project in case you exceed the hundred slots. :-) The plywood lap joints might be quite repetetive, but gang cutting them with a story stick or some other fixture shouldn’t be too terrible.

What do you think I just learned about in this awesome Computerphile video with Matt Godbolt called “Subroutines in Low Level Code”? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1su3lAh-k4o

Here’s the plot twist, the phrase “till the cows come home”. Hahaha, I never heard this before, but I love it! It’s always interesting to me to hear English sayings. Sometimes we have the same in German, sometimes – like in this case – entirely different ones. It’s fascinating that even though one hasn’t come across proverbs, it’s typically still clear from the context what’s meant.

Yep, some unexpected language stuff. ;-)

@sorenpeter@darch.dk Hah 😅 Just like how we ‘all just talk about Twtxt right? 🤣

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Look into using something like pyrra for creating and managing SLO(s) with Prometheus 👌 I use this myself actually, plus I also use HetrixTools for external monitoring with SLO-style measures via status.mills.io 👌

i started a little thing on my dreamwidth and called it a flash prompt box. basically it’s a limited time thing where people can prompt me for stuff i’m offering, like short fanfiction, photoshop-edited user icons, music recs, and a bit more! i’m having sooo much fun with it so far it’s been a blast just making stuff for friends :)

also more friends are making their own posts with the same concept which is SO cool to see

grafana is confusing af i deployed it again for my job (that is so wild to say…) and i’m like HOW DO THESE ALERTS WORK

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz if I haven’t said it before, please allow me to say it now: I kinda like your attitude. Heck, I love it!

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org it’s thankfully sorted out now but i literally turned on my PC and was like WTF IS GOING ON

@bender@twtxt.net kinda sorta, it’s in a docker container so not a VM but like VM-ish?

@bender@twtxt.net I think this would be a good idea as @movq@www.uninformativ.de and @andros@twtxt.andros.dev have done ✅ I may even join the experiments if I have any spare time to hack a custom yrand branch and run it up on say something like a yarnexp.mills.io or something 🤔

But Yarn does not like it: https://twtxt.net/twt/yoatzwa

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Just like Friday’s right? 😅

@ About the URL, since it no longer used for hashing there might be no need to change it. I agree that we keep all the parts that already are out there for the most parts. Instead of a contact field you could also just use links like: link = Email mailto:user@example.dk or link = Signal https://signal.me/sthF4raI5Lg_ybpJwB1sOptDla4oU7p[...]

@sorenpeter@darch.dk Yes, there are interesting things that can be incorporated to see how they work.
The issue of allowing the use of Z for UTC is interesting. I think I should add a brief explanation.
The url issue is for a debate :D . Maybe an issue could be opened. My opinion is that it is necessary to leave it as it is right now because otherwise the thread system, or replies, may have problems (404s). It’s all a matter of discussion.
I like your idea of contact. I will add it.
Thanks to you for your feedback!!!

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Thanks for consolidating a lot of good ideas. Especially how you have deiced to just extend the mention syntax for location-based treads. This might even be backward compatible with older (pre-yarn) clients.
What about using Z for UTC +00:00- is that allowed in your specs?
Regarding url = I would suggest to only allow one and the maybe add url_old = or url_alt = !?
I’m still not a fan of a DM feature, even thou it helps that i have now been split out into a separate feed file. Instead if would suggest a contact = field for where people can put an email or other id/link for an established chat protocol like signal or matrix.

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Wait, texudus is like compatible fork of twtxt?

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz No no, it’s just barks at the slightest thing going on around the neighborhod 😃 like it just goes a bit nuts often 🤣 it was a rescue dog, two years old, and it wasn’t treated very well, a street dog. I think it’s just basically afraid of every human in the world 😢

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev

You need break the routine.

I haven’t really done that lately. 🤔 Maybe have another go at Rust (given its increasing importance in the Linux kernel)? Or Elixir, yes, I only had some very, very brief contact with it. 🤔

I just came across an old forum posting of mine about Prolog. That brought up some memories. Prolog is pretty alien, but I do miss stuff like that because it’s so different.

Just thinking out loud here. 😅

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev @eapl.me@eapl.me Still lots of bugs in my client. 🥴 I’ll try to fix it next week.

And yes, using the same timestamp twice will very likely break threads.

@prologic@twtxt.net To clarify, from my observations on how the system behaves, it feels like that. This doesn’t make it any better, I know. Sorry mate! I never claimed that testing is always easy, but in my experience it sure does help cutting down regressions. But to each their own, no worries. The diagram is all Greek to me. Anyway.

@bender@twtxt.net True.

slowing working away at my latest code project: learning PHP by recreating the 2000s fandom mainstay known as a fanlisting! it’s been super fun i added a dynamic nav bar and other modifications in the latest commit

fanlistings even to this day rely on old PHP scripts dating back to the early 2000s that need whole ass mySQL or postgres DBs and are incredibly insecure. you can look at them here they’re like super jank lol it’s sad that new fanlistings have to use them because there’s no other options….

I am sure it wasn’t your intention (not even remotely), but it sounds a lot like corporate bullshit. Hahahaha! Are you sure you haven’t been institutionalised?

@prologic@twtxt.net ODD, lol. I don’t wanna be rude, but this sounds more like Code And Fix.

We just split about one and a half cubic meters of fire wood at our scout yard. And even more chainsaw action to cut the logs in smaller chunks. I’m bloody tired now. But it was really great fun swinging the axe. I will sleep like a rock tonight.

i’m slowly learning nixOS as part of my new fujocoded contract thing and as scary as it is it’s highkey kinda fun. like what do you mean i configure the bootloader with one god damn line in a file that’s EPIC

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev I set up a test feed here:

https://www.uninformativ.de/texudus.txt

I made some preliminary adjustments to my client so that it can work with the different threading model. (And I totally get the concerns, this can be quite a bit of work. Especially in a large code base like Yarn.)

@movq@www.uninformativ.de @kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz @quark@ferengi.one In 2014 one person created protocol ii. Later it forked in IDEC. Why i said this? Because it’s simple “federated” forum-like protocol where from your station fetch another every 5-10 minutes. Stations has topic-based channels like idec.talks, linux.16, haiku.os, zx.spectrum. In short it’s FIDO but.. more modern? Documentation: https://github.com/idec-net/new-docs (mostly Russian, but you can use translator, also protocol already translated to english)

@doesnm@doesnm.p.psf.lt nah, I’m fine without a web ui. But I like what the dev did with the 2009 facebook/VK look, it kind of feels notsalgic. (the tld is a .me not a .com if anyone else wants to take a look atit)

@bender@twtxt.net Mainly the bsd.cafe ones. I like how the minimalist single column profiles look. Image embeds are full width and reading through threads feels nice (as in it doesn’t feel like pealing layers upon layers of a fresh onion).

So, the “AI” bots have reached my website. Looks like they’re just slowly crawling everything at the moment – no DDoS-like attack yet. I wonder if that has something to do with my website being 100% static HTML. There are no GET parameters they can tweak and, at the end of the day, there’s not that much data on my server anyway … And maybe they have no idea what stagit is, so it doesn’t trigger “standard behavior”, like “this is a Gitea instance, let’s crawl this like crazy!”?

The temperatures are getting pleasant now. All the freshly cut grass really smells lovely. Looks like farmers are securing their harvests before the rain hits tomorrow in the arvo.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de mine too, mine too! Imagine my frustration being married to someone who prefers the heat. It’s like a polar bear married to a desert rat. LOL.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de “topic-based forums/groups”, you mean what USENET used to be, and the “niche” that Reddit is fulfilling these days? :-D I get it, I agree. I think I find twtxt more fulfilling than anything else because of its small size. I feel like I truly know everyone (even if that might not be true), and find myself “at home”. The bigger the place, the shyest I become, the less enticing it is.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de this is so real… i think we need to bring back topic focused groups but like with a little off topic side of things just in case people wanna go off topic. so the option’s there but the intent is the topic! microblogging isn’t best for this yeah. i think this is part of why IRC still goes strong for many tech people

@bender@twtxt.net It’s like having good manners at the table. Use forks and knives. ;-)

Confession:

I’ve never found microblogging like twtxt or the Fediverse or any other “modern” social media to be truly fulfilling/satisfying.

The reason is that it is focused so much on people. You follow this or that person, everybody spends time making a nice profile page, the posts are all very “ego-centric”. Seriously, it feels like everybody is on an ego-trip all the time (this is much worse on the Fediverse, not so much here on twtxt).

I miss the days of topic-based forums/groups. A Linux forum here, a forum about programming there, another one about a certain game. Stuff like that. That was really great – and it didn’t even suffer from the need to federate.

Sadly, most of these forums are dead now. Especially the nerds spend a lot of time on the Fediverse now and have abandoned forums almost completely.

On Mastodon, you can follow hashtags, which somewhat emulates a topic-based experience. But it’s not that great and the protocol isn’t meant to be used that way (just read the snac2 docs on this issue). And the concept of “likes” has eliminated lots of the actual user interaction. ☹️

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org there are times that it works out to reply to the “flat” conversation, if it fully relates, or the participants are few, or if the strict topic is kept. When there are too many people, or too many topics being spit out, then forking constantly is the way to go. I am a strong proponent of forking. It’s like telling the rest, “you debate that there, I will take this one aside”.

@bender@twtxt.net Saw it this morning and I was like “say what now”. 😂 I certainly can’t beat that. 😂

(Also, cute name. The “-le” suffix is a German diminutive, so it means “little OS”. 😃)

@prologic@twtxt.net done! hey i got a question, you got any clue why my feeds aren’t updating? maybe it has to do with the new cache flag but i messed with that a bit and didn’t notice a difference. basically it’s like i have to manually restart yarnd to see new posts it’s really weird lol

@movq@www.uninformativ.de When I reply to a message, I typically already mention the feed. Just like in this very message. I believe this mechanism should work for most replies. But there are of course the odd responses where I do not mention the original feed, but rather some other feed(s) instead to which I actually want to reply. Maybe “forking”, as prologic calls it, would be the better option there.

@prologic@twtxt.net hahahahaha! No, no, no. Every word has its use. But for things like these I like certain reactions. For example, I would have given a “thumbs down” to the original twtxt, and done with it. Now, composing a reply, to simply say “no, thank you.”, that I don’t like. It seems a waste of space, and it doesn’t “look good”. I like to see at least 140 characters! Ha!

“Monosyllabic replies” refers to responses that consist of a single syllable. These types of replies are typically brief and concise, often used in situations where a simple, direct answer is given. Examples include words like “Yes,” “No,” “Okay,” or “Sure.”

😂 Can I imply you’re not interested in things like “LIke”, “Report”, etc?! 😂

that said, and reading to @sorenpeter@darch.dk and @andros@twtxt.andros.dev I have new thoughts. I assume that this won’t change anyone’s opinions or priorities, so it makes no harm sharing them.

It’s always tempting to use something that already exists (like X, Masto, Bsky, etc.) rather that building anything through effort and disagreement until reaching to something useful and valuable together. A ‘social service’ is only useful if people is using it.

I’ll add that I haven’t lost interest on the ‘hacky’ part of twtxt about developing tools, protocols, and extensions as a community. It’s the appealing part! It’s a nice hobby to have, shared with random people across the world.
But this is not the right way for me, and makes me feel that I’m unwelcome to propose something different (after watching replies to my previous twt). Feels like “If you don’t agree, you are free to leave, we’ll miss you.” Naah, not cool. I’ve lived that many times before, and nowadays I don’t have enough spare time and energy for a hobby like that.

Let’s see what happens next with the micro-community!

@prologic@twtxt.net Not sure I’d attach any if clauses to this. My point is: Every time I see a hash, I’d like to have a hint as to where to find the corresponding twt.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de If we’re focusing on solving the “missing roots” problems. I would start to think about “client recommendations”. The first recommendation would be:

1. Replying to a Twt that has no initial Subject must itself have a Subject of the form (hash; url).
   

This way it’s a hint to fetching clients that follow B, but not A (in the case of no mentions) that the Subject/Root might (very likely) is in the feed url.

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz i just did the migration to stuff on the cacher branch so i’m like WHAT IS HAPPENING

gah i’ve been so busy working on love4eva! TL;DR i switched image backends from the test/dev only module i was using to the S3 one, but with a catch - i’m not using S3 or cloud shit!!! i instead got it to work with minio, so it’s a middle ground between self hosting the image uploads & being compatible with the highly efficient S3 module. i’m super happy with it :)

i posted a patreon update that details the changes more: https://www.patreon.com/posts/i-am-now-working-127687614

that post says i didn’t update my guide yet but i actually did like right after i made that post lol so you can CTRL+F for minio stuff there!

Once or twice a year, I make an effort to switch from dark mode / black terminals to light mode again.

It usually doesn’t end well, because the contrast is just not as good. There’s a reason that things like professional DAWs or CAD software use a dark theme.

With a heavy bold font, it’s much better:

https://movq.de/v/331aa40bde/s.png

My font doesn’t get any bolder than this, though. I’d have to make a new variant of it. Mhh. 🤔

July 1st. 63 days from now to implement a backward-incompatible change, apparently not open to other ideas like replacing blake with SHA, or discussing implementation challenges for other languages and platforms.
Finally just closing #18, #19 and #20 without starting a proper discussion and ignoring a ‘micro consensus’ feels… not right.

I don’t know what to think rather than letting it rest (May will be busy here) and focus on other stuff in the future.

twt-hash-v2.md#implementation-timeline

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Agreed, finding the right motivation can be tricky. You sometimes have to torture yourself in order to later then realize, yeah, that was actually totally worth it. It’s often hard.

I think if you find a project or goal in general that these kids want to achieve, that is the best and maybe only choice with a good chance of positive outcome. I don’t know, like building a price scraper, a weather station or whatever. Yeah, these are already too advanced if they never programmed, but you get the idea. If they have something they want to build for themselves for their private life, that can be a great motivator I’ve experienced. Or you could assign ‘em the task to build their own twtxt client if they don’t have any own suitable ideas. :-)

Showing them that you do a lot of your daily work in the shell can maybe also help to get them interested in text-based boring stuff. Or at least break the ice. Lead by example. The more I think about it, the more I believe this to be very important. That’s how I still learn and improve from my favorite workmate today in general. Which I’m very thankful of.

We’re all old farts. When we started, there weren’t a lot of options. But today? I’d be completely overwhelmed, I think.

Hence, I’d recommend to start programming with a console program. As for the language, not sure. But Python is probably a good choice

That’s what I usually do (when we have young people at work who never really programmed before), but it doesn’t really “hit” them. They’ve seen so much, crazy graphics, web pages, it’s all fancy. Just some text output is utterly boring these days. ☹️ And that’s my problem: I have no idea how I could possibly spark some interest in things like pointers or something “low-level” like that. And I truly believe that you need to understand things like pointers in order to program, in general.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org

Also, I see what you did there in regards to the reply model change poll. ]:->

The community is heavily divided in this regard, and yet we need consensous. We’re like the three Borg in VOY: Survival Instinct. 🥴

Nothing like being paged at 00:30 (midnight) for a P2 incident that is now resolved at 02:10 🤯 Obviously I’m not going to work tomorrow (I mean today lol 😂) at the usual start time 🤦‍♂️

@movq@www.uninformativ.de You better push new code sooner!!

As @bender@twtxt.net says, that sounds like a bot. I’d just block the IP address, hoping it doesn’t change all the time. But then you know for sure that it’s the AI fuckwits.

Also, the devil in me thinks it’s funny to swap out the repo in question for something entirely different. :-D

@prologic@twtxt.net Exactly, @bender@twtxt.net! :-D This is at the entrance of a veggie farm (11 & 12) where there are free-ranging kids playing on the road, so people should slow down when driving there to buy some supplies. I also wondered why the sign says “Halt!” instead of “Langsam fahren!” (Drive slowly!) or something like that. On second thought, maybe to actually park there on the street right at the property line.

I actually never walked on that road before and discovered that this was a dead end. There’s usually at the very least a foot path on which to continue when passing a farm. Not this time, though. I didn’t want to stamp down the high grass to cut across country, so I had to walk back maybe 150 meters. Not too bad.

@prologic@twtxt.net Phew, I’m indeed not twtxt.dev, because I sometimes actually do edit my feed with vim like a barbarian.

Just like we don’t write emails by hand anymore (See: #a3adoka), we don’t manually write Twts or update our twtxt.txt feeds. Instead, we use modern Twtxt clients that conform to the specifications at Twtxt.dev for a seamless, automated experience. #Twtxt #Twt #UserExperience

Wrote some serious Python for the first time in like 10 years 😱 I feel so dirty 🤣

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I started with Delphi in school, the book (that we never ever used even once and I also never looked at) taught Pascal. The UI part felt easy at first but prevented me from understanding fundamental stuff like procedures or functions or even begin and end blocks for ifs or loops. For example I always thought that I needed to have a button somewhere, even if hidden. That gave me a handler procedure where I could put code and somehow call it. Two or three years later, a new mate from the parallel class finally told me that this wasn’t necessary and how to do thing better.

You know all too well that back in the day there was not a whole lot of information out there. And the bits that did exist were well hidden. At least from me. Eventually discovering planet-quellcodes.de (I don’t remember if that was the original forum or if that got split off from some other board) via my best schoolmate was like finding the Amber Room. Yeah, reading the ITG book would have been a very good idea for sure. :-)

In hindsight, a console program without the UI overhead might have been better. At least for the very start. Much less things to worry about or get lost.

Hence, I’d recommend to start programming with a console program. As for the language, not sure. But Python is probably a good choice, it doesn’t require a lot of surrounding boilerplate like, say Java or Go. It also does exceptionally well in the principle of least surprise.

I went on a small hike, just 12-13km this time. The weather was great, blue sky, sunny 18°C, but with the wind it felt colder. Leaves and other green stuff is exploding like crazy. It looks super beautiful right now.

I came across an unfortunately dead salamander on the forest road, some fenced in deer, heaps of sheep, some unmagnetic cows (some were aligned very roughly north-south, but mainly with the axis of the best view I believe), a maybeetle and finally an awesome sunset. Not too shabby! The sheep were mehing all the time, that was really lovely to hear. And the crickets were already active, too. Didn’t expect them to hear yet. I tried to record the concert, but the wind messed it all up. Oh well.

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https://lyse.isobeef.org/waldspaziergang-2025-04-27/

I just fixed a bug in tt’s reply to parent feature. Previously, when the message tree looked like the following

Message
├╴Reply 1
│ └╴Subreply
└╴Reply 2

and “Reply 2” was selected, pressing A to reply to the parent should have picked “Message”. However, a reply to “Reply 2” was composed instead. The reason was a precausiously introduced safety guard to abort the parent search which stopped at “Subreply”, because its subject didn’t match “Reply 2”’s. It was originally intended to abort on a completely different message conversation root. Just in case. Turns out that this thoght was flawed.

Fixing bugs by only removing code is always cool. :-)

@prologic@twtxt.net This was like 20 minutes, but yeah 🤣