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In-reply-to » @prologic hmm, dunno about the recency of that line of thought. I suspect though that given his (recent or not) history, if someone directly asked him "do you support rape" he would not say "no", he'd go on one of these rambling answers about property crime like he did in the video. Maybe I'm mind poisoned by being around academics my whole career, but that way of talking is how an academic gives you an answer they know will be unpopular. PhD = Piled Higher And Deeper, after all right? In other words, if he doesn't say "no" right away, he's saying "yes", except with so many words there's some uncertainty about whether he actually meant yes. And he damn well knows that, and that's why I give him no slack.

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci Well I think its stupid. It doesn’t fool me (even if some ideas I find “okay” and “acceptable”, and others I find questionable at best). Using too many words is frankly inefficient and just confusing, I actually think of people that cannot speak concisely and clearly (as you put it) as not confident in what they’re saying, or just non-articulate in the first place.

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In-reply-to » I may have misspoken in my haste/anguish. I don't know of any examples of Ben Shapiro advocating rape. I do know them of Jordan Peterson. He's known for that, but I've seen it myself. So, to be clear, I don't know if Ben Shapiro is a rape apologist and have no evidence of that. Wouldn't surprise me frankly because the set of ideas he does talk about tends to include being A-OK with crimes against women, but anyway.

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci But you get underwater views 🤣 That has to be worth millions right? 😅

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In-reply-to » @prologic hmm, dunno about the recency of that line of thought. I suspect though that given his (recent or not) history, if someone directly asked him "do you support rape" he would not say "no", he'd go on one of these rambling answers about property crime like he did in the video. Maybe I'm mind poisoned by being around academics my whole career, but that way of talking is how an academic gives you an answer they know will be unpopular. PhD = Piled Higher And Deeper, after all right? In other words, if he doesn't say "no" right away, he's saying "yes", except with so many words there's some uncertainty about whether he actually meant yes. And he damn well knows that, and that's why I give him no slack.

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci So.. Glad we’re talking about something I can relate to, instead of the “man” (which I care little for really). So tell me… Let’s assume for a moment that an answer to a question would be met with so many words you don’t know what the answer was at all. Why? Why do this? Is this a stereotype of academics and philosophers? If so, it’s not a very straight-forward way of thinking, let alone answering a simple question.

There are people in academia who believe adult men should be able to have sex with children, legally, too

That’s disgusting. I take great offense to this. Don’t ever let me meet such persons 🤣

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In-reply-to » @prologic I seen you post about pondering whether it was worth it to build yarn, as apparently you one of if not the main guy for that, sweet, but you cannot have internet, anywhere on it, without some chaos. Just know people love what you did. Hopefully that's enough to keep ya going. Also when can we get a python version of this web app happening? Or PHP? I'm not powerful enough to convert golang app to something more adoptable, but perhaps this is an option for expanding the lawn or network to make easier get what you want?

@chunkimo@twtxt.net Also in terms of your desire to write another UI/UX for Yarn.social in some other language, you basically just need to follow the specs. I can help you with this, you can basically come up with whatever UI/UX you want in whatever language you want. The only requirement is that you stick to the specs and extensions we developed which you can find documented at https://yarn.social/ 👌

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In-reply-to » @prologic I seen you post about pondering whether it was worth it to build yarn, as apparently you one of if not the main guy for that, sweet, but you cannot have internet, anywhere on it, without some chaos. Just know people love what you did. Hopefully that's enough to keep ya going. Also when can we get a python version of this web app happening? Or PHP? I'm not powerful enough to convert golang app to something more adoptable, but perhaps this is an option for expanding the lawn or network to make easier get what you want?

@chunkimo@twtxt.net Thank you so much ! 🙇‍♂️

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In-reply-to » @prologic omg yes! They are both ultra-right-wing assholes! The worst of the worst! Please tell me you don't listen to these guys' brain poison?

I wish we could all talk about things at an intellextual level rather than devolving to the worst in us 🤦‍♂️

It’s far more productive to talk about the ideas rather than the person that presented those ideas 👌

There’s a football saying:

Talk about the ball not the player

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In-reply-to » @prologic you mentioned in a memo earlier how you said "boring microblogging" about yarn, well, hopefully I'm allowed to help prevent the "boring" part. If I like something I tend to really like it, so, and I'm curious how exactly this is federating. Any hints mate?

@shreyan@twtxt.net Yeah I agree, sadly though I’ve kind of learned (the hard way) that you cannot really have genuine open and honest discussions that even are even a wee bit touchy or controversial on any medium, not even in real life. The interactions between myself and a few others over the past few days makes me very sad, sad to the point where I genuinely think that building Yarn.social was a waste of time, because fundamentally it can never promote free speech, free ideas and good discussions. Why? Because we (as humans) are not capable of this. 🤦‍♂️

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In-reply-to » I have to confess in yarn now. I have a chronic addiction to web applications. More addictions are sprouting up over time and I shall reap further crippling addictions such as python modules, APIs, bindings, repos, deployment schematics, automation scripts, hexdumps, pcaps, ethernet plugs, the list goes on, I am done guys. It's all over now I have realized the weight of my addiction. God save my happy soul.

@chunkimo@twtxt.net I’m not sure about the addiction to be honest 🤔

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In-reply-to » @prologic omg yes! They are both ultra-right-wing assholes! The worst of the worst! Please tell me you don't listen to these guys' brain poison?

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci Yeah, and it looks like (correct me if I’m wrong) his discussions women, sophisticated women and comparisons to property crimes is quite recent. As a clinical psychologist (which is is) I can understand and pick apart what he’s saying from a psychological point of view, the problem is its rather provoking and I don’t quite agree with it. I think it’s easy to take Jordan Peterson out of context here, and maybe we are? – I feel like he should have chosen his words a bit better here. I’m quite confident that if you asked him directly “do you support rape”, or “is rape ok” he would flat out say no. I’m a bit on the fence on this one just because of his background and how complex language can be to convey.

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In-reply-to » @prologic you mentioned in a memo earlier how you said "boring microblogging" about yarn, well, hopefully I'm allowed to help prevent the "boring" part. If I like something I tend to really like it, so, and I'm curious how exactly this is federating. Any hints mate?

@chunkimo@twtxt.net By all means! 🙏 What I meant by “boring” is we (as a community) aren’t really interested in emulating anything like Twitter/Mastodon/etc A lot of the principles of what we’ve built are laid out in [About Yarn.social[(https://yarn.social/about.html)

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In-reply-to » I may have misspoken in my haste/anguish. I don't know of any examples of Ben Shapiro advocating rape. I do know them of Jordan Peterson. He's known for that, but I've seen it myself. So, to be clear, I don't know if Ben Shapiro is a rape apologist and have no evidence of that. Wouldn't surprise me frankly because the set of ideas he does talk about tends to include being A-OK with crimes against women, but anyway.

@xuu@txt.sour.is Hmmm that’s a pretty stupid argument to make 😱 Who da fuq would you sell your homes or even whole islands to that are now under water?! 🤦‍♂️

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In-reply-to » @prologic omg yes! They are both ultra-right-wing assholes! The worst of the worst! Please tell me you don't listen to these guys' brain poison?

For example, he talks about “shophistied women” and how “having prior positive relationships” with other men (fathers, brothers) are more likely to express their strong “no” stange to pushy men. He might be talking purely from a psychological standpoint at this point, but geez, he really should have just said outright from the start “rape is wrong” (or something) and been a bit more careful with his words.

I also don’t need “men” to tell me that rape is wrong ffs 🤦‍♂️

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In-reply-to » @prologic omg yes! They are both ultra-right-wing assholes! The worst of the worst! Please tell me you don't listen to these guys' brain poison?

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci Okay, your point on strange (borderline dangerous) ideas on “rape” are spot on. I found this video and comentrary (sadly which was more annoying than helpful). As someone with much experience with sexual abuse, etc, I find his views on this to be umm how shall I put this. Suptid?

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In-reply-to » yarn is seriously the God's honest most neato microblogging thingie ever man! @support who invented such a cute platform?

@chunkimo@twtxt.net Well welcome 🤗 – And sorry about the debate/discussion I’m having some other folks on some “internet characters” I’ve recently come across. I may be misinformed, but I’ll have to do my research to be sure. Anyway welcome 🤗

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In-reply-to » @prologic omg yes! They are both ultra-right-wing assholes! The worst of the worst! Please tell me you don't listen to these guys' brain poison?

I just want one clear example, just one, where either of these two (ghouls as you put it) said anything about or anything in support of rape. Obviously I don’t think Rape is OK, any sensible person would never think that rape is ok. I don’t.

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In-reply-to » @prologic omg yes! They are both ultra-right-wing assholes! The worst of the worst! Please tell me you don't listen to these guys' brain poison?

This very thread is honestly really proof that we cannot have a civilised debate, discussion or even argument about anything.

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In-reply-to » @prologic omg yes! They are both ultra-right-wing assholes! The worst of the worst! Please tell me you don't listen to these guys' brain poison?

In fact, why are we even criticising these individuals in the first place?! 🤦‍♂️ Why don’t we instead stalk about some of the ideas they present and argument they make and talk about those? 🤔 Do you for example disagree or feel differently in one way or another with Dr. Peterson’s strong felt belief that we should be honest with ourselves and hold ourselves accountable? Let’s start there…

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In-reply-to » @prologic omg yes! They are both ultra-right-wing assholes! The worst of the worst! Please tell me you don't listen to these guys' brain poison?

Okay, so Dr. Peterson has a problem with the movie “Frozen” because of the he believes it to be “reprehensible propaganda” and that when he did see the film he left feeling a strong sense it was produced for ideological reasons, an anti-sleeping beauty.

He then goes on to proclaim that he like the movie Mohan for a different set of reasons.

So what’s the problem here? Where or how or why did you say he has a “beef with female-led anything works of function” (which seems to be a rather broad statement to make.

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In-reply-to » @prologic omg yes! They are both ultra-right-wing assholes! The worst of the worst! Please tell me you don't listen to these guys' brain poison?

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci Taking Jordan Peterson asn an example, the only thing he “preaches” (if you want to call it that) is to be honest with yourself and to take responsibility. I’m not sure how and why this is a bad thing to take? 🤔

Ben/Matt are a bit more controversial in their debates about biological facts and have problems with people changing the meaning of words on a “whim”.

And Pierce is just a comical entertainment TV show host (or was) that just like to get into debates and ask sensible questions.

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