@tkanos@twtxt.net amazing!

@movq@uninformativ.de bread and dairies, I think!

I leave you one of my favorites theories on Product Design which changes behaviours

As usual, security is a perception, perceived as a reality
https://www.securityweek.com/security-perception-reality

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci hmmm, I wouldn’t say more important, but something they value more. Until you have an attack or an identity theft you know the real value of your privacy. Until that moment it’s ‘worthless’, and for that reason the time required to take care of that is infinitely expensive

@prologic@twtxt.net one of mine, I hope to share at least another at the end of the year

@justamoment@twtxt.net interesting, what email client/service you use?

And another important distinction is between web3 ™ and The Web 3.0

That being said, it’s not what we expect. What would be better for us? Web 4.0, The Hobbyst Net? IDK

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci I would say there are only a few good thinks about cryptocurrency (disclaimer, I received funding to work on it) but now the bad parts overcame the few good things.
Usually I don’t like to think on black and white terms, but different amounts of gray, which makes the conversation very hard for a few twts.

In the case you like Football/Soccer ⚽ and card games, I’m working on this
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gemugami/1830716041?ref=cjv00z&token=681f66e1

(Not an ad but more of sharing something I love to do 😀)

If you want to create a game or a KS campaign send me a msg

Well, after 9 hours driving, we can have a good rest and keep driving 4 more to officially start the 2022 vacations.

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci hehe, I leave 5-10 messages for what I’m working this or next week, but if I have more that 4 weeks w/o doing anything with it, it has to be archived.

@prologic@twtxt.net I get it. I think in the past we had the discussion about centralization, decentralization, distributed and even federated. It’s an important distinction.

I haven’t read the Signal documentation, only used it (and then I moved to Telegram and Session). That said, why do you say or think that Salty is similar to Signal?

I’m suspecting of being more recognized as a brand that other hipster solutions, is that the case?

@prologic@twtxt.net I can’t disagree, although if you read both proposals, they have some similarities on goals, use of libraries, anonymity and such. Anyways my bet is on all of you 😀

https://getsession.org/lightpaper

@prologic@twtxt.net It’s late over here, I’ll try to take a look in the week but I briefly checked it since criptography has been a hobby interest for me.

That said, I think https://getsession.org or Jami, are more related to Salty than Signal.

@mckinley@twtxt.net I guess I didn’t say it correctly.

I didn’t know about that page, it’s cool!

About how do they use Twtxt as a feed, I agree on the problem you mention, and of the lack of a convention (unless we use the title/subject as someone suggested later) for automated parsing

@mckinley@twtxt.net hey! CodeMadness.org has amazing projects 😀

Related with my current conversation, what do you think of using twtxt.txt as a format for feeds?

Indeed I knew the format since it was used in Gemini capsules as a sort of Atom alternative

@movq@uninformativ.de Active Desktop and Channels were related but the latter is more related to RSS, on receiving new content automatically. Active desktop was only showing a web page.

If I remember correctly, Internet Explorer 4.0 introduced a ‘standard’ to get low-bandwidth notifications to know when new content was available, but I can’t recall if it were only the notification, or if you can read everything there, as you can do with RSS: Push technology

Edit: I found it Channel Definition Format

I’m in #236 (with a forgotten .txt I’m not planning to use anymore) and #31 with this account. The one I started a few days ago is not there: https://eapl.mx/twtxt.txt (I’m not complaining :P)

How do you find interconnections? With follows and mentions?

@tkanos@twtxt.net Really interesting. What origin points you had? twtxt.net for instance?

For people born after the 90s (no one here I suppose), this was Active Desktop:

Instead of a static image, show a Dynamic Web page refreshed every X minutes. Good memories of the old .com web portals of that age

If I can add something, I disable now all the Home Pages with news. I don’t care about them anymore, but I like models like Reddit/HackerNews/Lobste.ts/Antenna.

More in the model “I’ll check them when I want, not when you are pushing it to me”

But that’s another discussion.

Active Desktop 😅

@mckinley@twtxt.net I’m on the cover!

@mckinley@twtxt.net I did! Just wanted to share the surprise in case is rendered differently here

Great work with that XSLT!

I read about it a few years ago… http://camendesign.com/blog/rss_is_dying

I’m thinking if by 2022 that has changed significantly (at least it’s not RSS anymore, but Atom and other hipster formats, I’m talking about Feeds as a concept)

@movq@uninformativ.de yeah, I agree on the Feed icon and discoverability in general, following the trend that most web 2.0 services stopped supporting RSS (in 2010 I think?).
Again, it’s like they don’t want the common user to know that exists, perhaps for not promoting browsing the web but an alternative way to consume content (hiding most ads in the process)

And then Firefox includes Pocket, which is the first thing I disable 🙃

@tkanos@twtxt.net I’ve seen much more than 9 Gemini accesible twtxt files, perhaps the capsules are down? 🤔

Also, what’s the difference between found and accessible? Being linked in any page counts as found and then the link being broken makes it non accesible?

@tkanos@twtxt.net interesting, kudos for the hard work.

Saying something obvious here, I think twtxt as a plain text format is so easy to create but not so easy to consume and extremely hard to use as a conversations tool.

It’s missing the famous ‘network effect’ to hook into real conversations. So it could transform into a communication protocol, rather than a timed text format.

@prologic@twtxt.net if influence © is motivating to twt more often, I guess it’s a good influence 😛

personally, I haven’t used Feeds like I used to do 10+ ago. I don’t care about following blogs anymore, but following people and topics (on Twitter, Twtxt, etc) and curated content (newsletters, a bit of pinterest…), I don’t read news anymore. I listed to a lot of podcast but the directories get the Feed URL for me.

Perhaps that’s a bad habit remaining from social media usage. Changing how I consume/get periodic content. Makes me think 🤔

@movq@uninformativ.de interesting point.
Perhaps you’ve seen the official take title

@mckinley@twtxt.net It looks like this over here

@prologic@twtxt.net a MAU is every person using Yarn.social/twtxt.net at least once in the last 30 days ? BTW, that dashboard looks cool,

Congratulations, may those 100 MAUs be the first of many more 🥳🎉

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci Didn’t know about WebSub, it’s really cool everything around the simple .txt file to make it work a a social protocol.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge 😀

BTW I’m watching I know almost nothing of Yarn =P
Like https://search.twtxt.net/stats

@prologic@twtxt.net If I remember correctly, we were discussing a few months ago options like Webmention, I have never used it, although sounds better in my mind than parsing the access_log.

That search engine you mention or a global Database of Twt hashes could help. I remember that Twitter users had an external search platform, acquired later by Twitter: https://techcrunch.com/2008/07/15/confirmed-twitter-acquires-summize-search-engine/

As @tkanos@twtxt.net said, a comment in the txt file like: Notify me on this email, or automatically register your feed in this URL as Antenna does, would be a nice addition.
I assume that if you are replying you are interested in making a dual connection, so they can answer you back. Just thinking out loud.

@darch@neotxt.dk Didn’t know that, thanks!

@darch@neotxt.dk Hey, I don’t have these time labels 🤔

@tkanos@twtxt.net My question goes more in if someone replies to me, and I don’t follow them, how can I know they is trying to do it?

I guess they need to contact me somehow to request a follow, right?

@tkanos@twtxt.net You’re welcome :)

@tkanos@twtxt.net a quick question, I’m using twet (thanks for the recommendation), how do the clients announce between them that you have replied to a previous twt?

You have to follow the other person and the clients look for replies for each of your twts?

@tkanos@twtxt.net thanks!

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Thank you! I didn’t remember that section :o

Looking at those options, it seems that jenny requires mutt (I don’t use it) and perhaps won’t be compatible with Windows (I have WSL, so it’s not a problem), I can’t find how to install twet, and twtr looks better but says it’s deprecated 🙃

@~eaplmx@eapl.mx 👆 this is amazing! Thanks to the designer of this extension:
https://dev.twtxt.net/doc/twthashextension.html

BTW I’m using the Python twtxt CLI which doesn’t support the twthash, I’ve seen some ports to Go, but I wasn’t able to make them work, mainly due to my lack of knowledge in Golang. Any suggestions for a better client?

@darch@neotxt.dk Oh, thank you! Let me try it

@prologic@twtxt.net Ruby or Python, pick your posion. Indeed it could be Go or Nim =P

I don’t dislike PHP, it’s only that I haven’t used it for years, maybe since the jump from PHP 5 to 7?
I’ve heard good things about PHP 8.

@darch@neotxt.dk But I want to mess around!

@darch@neotxt.dk hey! I’ve seen your picoblog and pixelblog before, and I got to say it is just what I was looking for (sadly it’s in PHP =P, I haven’t touched it in ages)

Thanks for sharing!