hehe, just catching up on this thread! Iāve replied in another that using periods/dots sounds good to me as itās usual in domains, but perhaps some agreement would be needed. For now I think any character is valid as long as it is not a space.
For example we are using this for PHP twtxt.php#L153
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(s) / dot(s) like @eapl.me are valid? š¤ Or nicks even? š¤
ok! sorry, somehow Iām getting lost in the replies.
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(s) / dot(s) like @eapl.me are valid? š¤ Or nicks even? š¤
on timeline the mention looks OK. Is there an issue on Yarn?
Itās an interesting topic. For example on Bsky itās natural to allow domains https://bsky.social/about/blog/4-28-2023-domain-handle-tutorial
Although TwiXter only allows (letters A-Z, numbers 0-9 and of underscores)
https://help.x.com/en/managing-your-account/x-username-rules
dm-only.txt
feeds. š
by commenting out DMs are you giving up on simplicity? See the Metadata extension holding the data inside comments, as the client doesnāt need to show it inside the timeline.
I donāt think that commenting out DMs as we are doing for metadata is giving up on simplicity (itās a feature already), and it helps to hide unwanted DMs to clients that will take months to add itās support to something named⦠an extension.
For some other extensions in https://twtxt.dev/extensions.html (for example the reply-to hash #abcdfeg
or the mention @ < example http://example.org/twtxt.txt >
) is not a big deal. The twt is still understandable in plain text.
For DM, itās only interesting for you if you are the recipient, otherwise you see an scrambled message like 1234567890abcdef=
. Even if you see it, youāll need some decryption to read it. Iāve said before that DMs shouldnāt be in the same section that the timeline as itās confusing.
So my point stands, and as Iāve said before, we are discussing it as a community, so letās see what other maintainers add to the convo.
dm-only.txt
feeds. š
@andros@twtxt.andros.dev I give you not creating another file, but then Iād vote for commenting out DMs. See https://eapl.me/timeline/post/z5e2bna
Itās easier to find the DM in comments from your side, than asking all the client maintainers to add the regex =P
You can even use a Modified comment, such as
#! <DM content>
Or something like that
This approach is retro-compatible with current and older clients.
si4er3q
. See https://twtxt.dev/exts/twt-hash.html, a timezone offset of +00:00
or -00:00
must be replaced by Z
.
just a note that we are doing that on PHP: https://github.com/eapl-gemugami/twtxt-php/blob/master/docs/03-hash-extension.md#php-72
That PHP snippet could be merged into https://twtxt.dev/exts/twt-hash.html
it should be
# 2025-04-13T11:02:12+02:00 !<dm-echo https://dm-echo.andros.dev/twtxt.txt> U2FsdGVkX1+QmwBNmk9Yu9jvazVRFPS2TGJRGle/BDDzFult6zCtxNhJrV0g+sx0EIKbjL2a9QpCT5C0Z2qWvw==
my main itch with the DMs extensions is that these messages are intended to be private, not public information. Thatās why other extensions make sense, but DMs are another kind of feature.
TwiXter, Mastodon, FB and some other services usually hide the DMs in another section, so they are not mixed with the public timeline.
I find the DM topic interesting, I even made an indie experiment for a centralized messaging system here https://github.com/eapl-gemugami/owl.
Although, as Iāve said a few times here, Iām not particularly interested in supporting it on microblogging, as I donāt use it that much. In the rare case Iāve used them, I donāt have to manage public and private keys, and finally none of my acquaintances use encrypted email.
Nothing personal against anyone, and although I like to debate and even fight, itās not the case here. This proposal is the only one allowing DMs on twtxt, and if the community wants it, Iāll support it, with my personal input, of course.
A good approach I could find with a good compromise between compatibility with current clients and keeping these messages private is āhidingā the DMs in comments. For example:
# 2025-04-13T11:02:12+02:00 !<dm-echo https://dm-echo.andros.dev/twtxt.txt> U2FsdGVkX1+QmwBNmk9Yu9jvazVRFPS2TGJRGle/BDDzFult6zCtxNhJrV0g+sx0EIKbjL2a9QpCT5C0Z2qWvw==
I think that having a dm-only.txt
, twtxt-dm.txt
or any other name for an alternative file is the most sensible approach. The name could be specified in the metadata.
not a big deal as I can skip those messages, but again, itās an extension, so older clients shouldnāt be affected by a new feature.
Iām also thinking that some kind of tag might be needed to automatically hide twts from unknown extensions. For example our client doesnāt support DMs and always shows the !<nick url><encrypted_message>
syntax which is meaningless.
well, I suggested that in https://eapl.me/timeline/conv/k2ob6bq
The idea was to help those following the spec in https://twtxt.dev/exts/directmessage.Html, to replicate the steps and validate whether your implementation gives the same result.
BTW, you could add a link to the spec in the echo web.
you got me š, it was like a few Internet centuries ago
the Fireworks and Confetti animations are amazing. It reminds me a lot of my first code on QBasic a few years ago.
This is sooo cool, it reminds me of learning QBasic (and then Visual Basic) in the 90s
Easylang story
https://easylang.online/apps/story.html
This is such an interesting reading
Lessons from open source in the Mexican government
https://lwn.net/Articles/1013776/
yep, it looks nice! How could add my URL?
Is it following the same endpoints than https://registry.twtxt.org/swagger-ui/#/users/addUser ?
BTW, I think that the usage
section has a wrong base URL or something.
For example if you enter here: https://watcher.sour.is/conv/4rx5iyq
It says to look for this URL: https://watcher.sour.is/conv/4rx5iyq/api/plain/users
Which seems to return the content from https://watcher.sour.is
In Mexico you couldnāt register the word Sonora (state), nor Taqueria (kind of restaurant) as there are two common words, but perhaps the combination of both is trademarkable, Iām not sure, so many ātaqueriasā here donāt file a trademark request. Itās usually āTaquerĆa
An interesting episode about naming stuff, and some implications of the āTrademarksā
https://radioambulante.org/en/translation/who-owns-the-taqueria-translation
well, there is a whole book about piracy, DRM and selling stuff on the internet.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Doesn%27t_Want_to_Be_Free
So I wonāt add much to the topic, what I can say is that this is about being pragmatic. There is some people whoās gonna spend their money on books but it requires publicity (polemic topic) and subsidizing creativity with our own money (another controversial one).
Otherwise itās a difficult discipline /profession /industry
yay! A new client š
definitely 1e100 superiorer
Now Iām looking forward to see the next version using MessagePack
thatās certainty an interesting idea.
Building on top of that, Iām thinking of https://eapl.me/yatwt.yaml
well, that leads to a long conversation.
Piracy is a difficult topic which is very personal, so I wonāt say much about it.
On writing books, Iāve tried along with other digital products such as courses and videogames, and I got to confess that it has been hard for me.
If it helps, I think it all reaches our expectations on the activity and the result. If royalties is the expectation, itās going to be slow. By 5% of royalties, for a rough example, a huge amount of sales will be required to get a decent āwageā, so Iāve understood of doing it by the side of a normal employment although it has been discouraging and a bit sad.
I have reflected about it in Spanish here: https://sembrandojuegos.substack.com/p/sobre-expectativas-al-crear-juegos
nice!
thanks for sharing @xuu@txt.sour.is!
Checking for example https://watcher.sour.is/api/plain/twt or https://registry.twtxt.org/api/plain/tweets, I donāt know whether this syntax is being used by clients or by people. Is it integrated on Yarn in any way? Genuinely asking to know more about it.
If I might throw a quick thought to those working on the registries, it would be nice to have an endpoint with a valid twtxt output (perhaps cached or dumped to a static file) which a client could point to, helping to discover itās content in a way which is compatible with the twtxt spec.
Taking the first twt I found in https://watcher.sour.is/api/plain/twt as an example:
reddit_world_news https://feeds.twtxt.net/Reddit_World_News/twtxt.txt 2025-03-28T00:29:25Z **China bans US logs. 3 billion dollar[...])
it would be something like
TIME <@NICK URL> TWT
2025-03-28T00:29:25Z <@reddit_world_news https://feeds.twtxt.net/Reddit_World_News/twtxt.txt> **China bans US logs. 3 billion dollar[...])
That way you could watch the latest twts with your client, something similar to what we find on Mastodon: https://mastodon.online/public/local
Some support from the clients to separate these ādiscoveryā content, from your following timeline might be required. š¤
sorry @prologic@twtxt.net, timeline
doesnāt autocomplete the mentions yet, and it was ādifficultā to look for your URL from the phone.
somehow I forgot that existed.
Perhaps it was its mention of being a demo implementation here:
https://twtxt.readthedocs.io/en/latest/user/registry.html#registry
So I though it wasnāt really active.
Anyway, I think thatās a good idea.
Is there something similar available on Yarn? Sorry for for asking if that was mentioned recently.
I think that the clients may help you to submit your URL to these directories, and also to get a view of the twts in them.
twtxt
, the voting period has started and will be open for a week.
https://eapl.me/rfc0001/
thanks @prologic!
@bender the idea of the RFC was to reach an agreement on a difficult problem, receiving proposals, and the voting is a simple count to gauge the sentiment of āis this a problem worth to be fixed?, are we committed to implement a change in our clients?ā
But thatās a fair point. What do the community expect? What do yāall expect?
For anyone following the proposals to improve replies and threads in twtxt
, the voting period has started and will be open for a week.
https://eapl.me/rfc0001/
Please share the link with the twtxt community, and leave your vote on your preferred proposals, which will be used to gauge the perceived benefits.
Also, the conversation is open to discuss implementation concerns or anything aimed at making twtxt better.
What has been the hardest bug you got to fix?
https://hackerweb.app/#/item/43461618
thanks? š
Now I need the non-hacker friends š„²
it seems I donāt know how to do Markdown š
Twtxt was made for nerds, by nerds.
Iād like to change that. Itās by nerds/hackers, for nerds/hackers and friends of these. It doesnāt have to be hacky all the time, as you donāt need to be a nerd to have a blog.
But, for that to happen, someone has to build the tools to improve UX.by design there really is no way to easily discovers others
Yeah, I agree, and although there are directories of email addresses, usually you donāt want that, unless you are a āpublic figureā.
I couldnāt say that a microblogging is a āsocial networkā by default, as a blog is not either. At the same time, people would expect to find new people and conversations, as youād do in a forum.
I think of two features on top of the current spec:
- Clients showing a few posts of what your following are watching but you donāt, so perhaps you find something interesting to follow next. Or that feature of āYour āfollowingsā are following these accounts/peopleā. (Hard to explain in english, but I hope you get the idea)
- Sharing your .txt into some directory, saying āHey, I have this twtxt URL, I want to be discoveredā. Iām thinking of something like the Federated tab on Mastodon.
thanks andros!
instead of adding the new twt at the end of the feed, do it at the beginning
The PHP client did that originally, although I didnāt see a real benefit if you use⦠a client.
It could help if you read the .txt file through a browser or something. Also, not many clients are prepared to cut the request, and you canāt rely on the file being organized that way, so finally we dropped that feature.
2 is a great idea, you should suggest it in that blog post.
About 1, well, I think anyone has an email address and only about 5% use a Feed, so it makes sense to offer what most people use š¤
Wow, phishing is just around the corner š
A Sneaky Phish Just Grabbed my Mailchimp Mailing List
https://www.troyhunt.com/a-sneaky-phish-just-grabbed-my-mailchimp-mailing-list/
yeah, thatās the tricky part of adding features
āit is very easy to filter or ignore itā This is the interesting part for legacy clients, hehe
Joking aside, letās see how it works in the wild!
I have finished 1-9 on Python. If anyone is interested, I could share the code, or in Reddit many people have shared theirs.
š
Is it working now?
Iād say again that perhaps the DMs could be stored in another .txt, but anyway Iād like to try it.
I donāt have the need for a physical Calc nor a watch, although Iām slightly more interested in a https://banglejs.com or an eink watch š¤
I always find the āAdven of codeā challenges difficult to follow.
i18n-puzzles.com has been a blast, but I donāt like having to think about puzzles on weekends. Like with exercise, doing it every day without rest doesnāt sound healthy.
Iād rater have a weekly challenge, at most three.
yeah, it worked, thanks! :)
well, I assume by syntax you mean Gemtext (which I like a lot, my personal blog is built on top of it), so I think it might work for twtxt clientsā¦
I knew of twtxt in Gemini Antenna, so at least the 2017 spec might work on that protocol. I think the main issue with extensions is that they werenāt designed with many URLs and protocols in mind.
Also I have to admit that the Gemini community significantly reduced in the last few years. I donāt know how worth it is to add support for Gemini now.
also Iāve made a draft of a voting page to receive preferences on each proposal
https://eapl.me/rfc0001/
Help me to play with it a bit and report any vulnerability or bug. Also any idea is welcome.
I have applied your comments, and I tried to add you as an editor but couldnāt find your email address. Please request editing access if you wish.
Also, could you elaborate on how you envision migrating with a script? You mean that the client of the file owner could massively update URLs in old twts ?
Hi! For anyone following the Request for Comments on an improved syntax for replies and threads, Iāve made a comparative spreadsheet with the 4 proposals so far. It shows a syntax example, and top pros and cons Iāve found:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KOUqJ2rNl_jZ4KBVTsR-4QmG1zAdKNo7QXJS1uogQVo/edit?gid=0#gid=0
Feel free to propose another collaborative platform (for those without a G account), and also share your comments and analysis in the spreadsheet or in Gitea.
Wow, this is a nice way to practice internationalization for our systems
https://i18n-puzzles.com
Timeline and twtxt-php, donāt support Gemini, only HTTP/S, as a design choice (although originally it was intended to work on Gemtext, it was a niche inside a niche, so it was discarded very soon).
At the moment of building the engine there werenāt many Gemini URLs supporting twtxt 1.1 (with twtxt.dev extensions).
Also User-Agent wonāt work there, and many Gemini URLs are a mirror of the HTTP one, so I think is not strictly necessary.
my 2c
well⦠it has been an opportunity to build an artisanal microblogging client on top of a minimalist protocol. I agree on the hacker toy part.
And of course itās about being part of a niche community which is (mostly) amazing, and nurturing. As there is almost no one writing in my native spanish, it has been an interesting challenge to share my thoughts in english, as well.
I couldnāt say itās a āsocial networkā per se, I think it lack many engagement things usually associated with social networks, although it has a social part of igniting discussions, learnings and behavioral changes, which is the meaning of social for me.
@eapl.me@eapl.me@eapl.me
for me, which then gets eaten as two mentions, probably matching twice against my following list?
it seems like yarn still points my nick to both my older URL (404 now) along with the current one.
it seems to be āan informational website consisting of discrete, often informal diary-style text entries (posts)ā https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog#History
Iād like to know more about what andros and prologic are talking about, I feel lost.
āThis will be managed by Registries.ā Are we talking about these registries?
https://twtxt.readthedocs.io/en/latest/user/registry.html
ah! those german calendars. Somehow I was thinking of something like mine, with spaces to write inside each day.
I worked for a german company and they gave away these calendars to our clients and team every year, but the model you can hang on the wall. Memory unlocked!
do you mind sharing a picture ?
I canāt find something similar here, but my wife gave this one last year, and Iāve been using it a bit. Iād say itās useful as youāve shared.
We also have a shared calendar in the kitchen for family events, and itās working great.
well (insert stubborn emoji here) š, word blog
comes from weblog, and microblogging could derivate from āsmaller weblogā. https://www.wikiwand.com/en/articles/Microblogging
Iād differentiate it from sharing status updates as it was done with āfingerā or even a BBS. For example, being able to reply; create new threads and sharing them on a URL is something we could expect from āTwitterā, the most popular microbloging model (citation needed)
I like to discuss it, since conversations usually are improved if we sync on what we understand for the same words.
pls elaborate on a āp2p databaseā, āall storyā and āRegistriesā.
My first thought takes me to something like secure-scuttlebutt
which itās painful to sync data using clients, and too slow compared to downloading a text file.
Also Iād like for twtxt to avoid becoming an ActivityPub. Works well but itās uses too many resources IMO.
https://kingant.net/2025/02/mastodon-the-cost-of-running-my-own-server/
Iām defending being able to self-host your Web client (like youād do with a Wordpress, twtxt is a micrologging, at the end), instead of federated instances, so in a first thought Iād say Registries have many disadvantages being the first one that someone has to maintain them active.
šæļø squirrels!
Iād need to think about it deeply, but at a first sight, nanoblogging
would be a simple text (like the original twtxt spec, aimed for TUIs), and microblogging
(like Twitter was a few years ago), would be about sharing texts, images, videos, GIFs, links, and perhaps Markdown styling.
Why? You have shorter messages than in a blog, but you may add almost anything you could do in a blog.
Buuut⦠who knows?
@prologic@twtxt.net oops, Iām sorry to see disagreement leading to draining emotions.
It remind me a bit of the Conclave movie where every part wanted to defend their vision and there is only a winner. If one wins the other loses. Like the political side of many leaders and volunteers representing a broad community. I donāt think thatās the case here. Most of us (in not all) should āwinā.
I can only add that isnāt nice to listen that āmy idea and effortā is not what the rest of the people expect. I personally have a kind of issue with public rejection, but I also like to argue, discuss and even fight a bit. āA gem cannot be polished without friction, nor a man perfected without trials,ā they say.
This exercise and belonging to this community also brings me good feelings of smart people trying to solve a human and technical problem, which is insanely difficult to get ārightā.
I genuinely hope we can understand each other, and even with our different and respectful thoughts on the same thing, we might reach an agreement on whatās the best for most people.
Good vibes to everyone!
Damn! Stay safe mateā¦
Hi everyone,
Iāve drafted a Request for Comments (RFC) to improve how threads work in twtxt:
https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/twtxt.dev/issues/18
Iād love your feedback! Please share your thoughts on anything that could be better explained, check if the proposed dates work for everyone, and I invite you to join the discussionā¦
really? I think I havenāt seen it being used in the wild
@prologic@twtxt.net sure thing!
What about discussing it in https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/twtxt.dev ?
The only con I see is that everyone would need to create an account there to participate.
a few async ideas for later
The editing process needs a lot of consideration and compromises.
From one side, editing and deleting itās necessary IMO. People will do it anyway, and personally I like to edit my texts, so Iād put some effort on make it work.
Should we keep a history of edits? Should we hash every edit to avoid abuse? Should we mark internally a twt as deleted, but keeping the replies?
I think thatās part of a more complete āthreadā extension, although Iād say itās worth to agree on something reflecting the real usage in the wild, along with what people usually do on other platforms.
yep! Enjoy your rest, letās discuss it later
looks good to me!
About aliceās hash, using SHA256, I get 96473b4f
or 96473B4F
for the last 8 characters. Iāll add it as an implementation example.
The idea of including it besides the follow URL is to avoid calculating it every time we load the file (assuming the client did that correctly), and helps to track replies across the file with a simple search.
Also, watching your example Iām thinking now that instead of {url=96473B4F,id=1}
which is ambiguous of which URL we are referring to, it could be something like:
{reply_to=[URL_HASH]_[TWT_ID]}
/ {reply_to=96473B4F_1}
That way, the āfull twt IDā could be 96473B4F_1
.
hi! I hope you can see this message
As in https://eapl.me/timeline/post/s7gv6zq
I changed my URL to experiment on this exact situation, and deleted the symlink on my server, so now tw.txt is the only way to get the file, although I could bring it back, what does everyone say?
Hey everyone!
About the idea of improving the āthreadā extension, what if we set aside March 2025 to gather proposals and thoughts from everyone? We could then vote on them at the end of the month to see if the change and migration are worth it.
The voting could include client maintainers (and maybe even users too). That way, we get a good mix of perspectives before taking a decision in a decent timelapse.
What do you think? If this sounds good, we can start agreeing on this. Let me know your thoughts!
I like this syntax, you have my vote, although Iād change it a bit like
#<Alice https://example.com/twtxt.com#2024-12-18T14:18:26+01:00>
Hashes are not a problem on PHP, I dont know why itās slow to calculate them from your side, but I agree with your points.
BTW, did you have the chance to read my proposal on twtxt 2.0? I shared a few ideas about possible improvements to discuss:
https://text.eapl.mx/a-few-ideas-for-a-next-twtxt-version
https://text.eapl.mx/reply-to-lyse-about-twtxt
looks good now!
description = š Full-Stack developer (Mainly Python) ā Writer[...]
also @Andros, I see that if I open that URL on my browser, I see weird characters in the .txt
file:
description = ðŸĀā
Perhaps your nginx server is missing a Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
header?
https://serverfault.com/a/975289
In timeline
it looks OK however, I think itās relying on
The file must be encoded with UTF-8
of the original spec:
https://twtxt.readthedocs.io/en/latest/user/twtxtfile.html
working on my bookmarks tool, I found out that http(s)://domain.tls
is not a valid resource, but http(s)://domain.tls/
is, as you can see here: https://stackoverflow.com/a/2581423
I suppose that internally the wget/curl or whatever client you are using is redirecting it?
Testing out this image upload featureā¦
here is my progress so far: https://github.com/eapl-gemugami/twtxt-direct-message-php
The encryption part seems to work, if I decrypt it the message with OpenSSL.
I think it can help you for some key parts not well explained in OpenSSL documentation.
@andros@twtxt.andros.dev reading your spec I wrote a few notes here: https://github.com/eapl-gemugami/twtxt-direct-message-php/blob/main/direct_message_spec.md
@arne@uplegger.eu I havenāt check your repo yet, although you are using sodium, right?
@alice U2FsdGVkX187WpPAJXCusqEoTb3/tD62xN+TxudcTsPI+LqOJLPkl9aNE9MLg8lYRLfd9mSE33N6JeA0okLJ6Q==
@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Could you share (perhaps in the extension document) the private key for alice?
I want to compare that I can read the encrypted message both from OpenSSL CLI and from the PHP OpenSSL library, following the spec.
@alice JmgrTxTqbGBtzGFh30wL0cozfVOZiFSTuZ5c+k+5t9TtGkw4foOA80V2che2f3pXPVzBEZsuXg7y+7G5fD/5Qw==
echo "Lorem ipsum" | openssl enc -aes-256-cbc -pbkdf2 -iter 100000 -out message.enc -pass file:shared_key.bin
will take the input string from echo
to openssl
. It then will
trying to implement it quickly, I get the same questions than you
# https://www.php.net/manual/en/function.openssl-pbkdf2.php
$password = $sharedKey;
$salt = openssl_random_pseudo_bytes(16); # What's the salt length ?
$keyLength = 20; # What's the key length here ?
$iterations = 100000;
$generatedKey = openssl_pbkdf2($password, $salt, $keyLength, $iterations, 'sha256');
echo bin2hex($generatedKey)."\n";
echo base64_encode($generatedKey)."\n";
$iv = openssl_random_pseudo_bytes(16); // AES-256-CBC requires 16-byte IV
$cipherText = openssl_encrypt($message, 'aes-256-cbc', $generatedKey, OPENSSL_RAW_DATA, $iv);
return base64_encode($iv . $cipherText);
I havenāt taken a look into that extension, although I think you could use the OpenSSL library: https://www.php.net/manual/en/function.openssl-encrypt.php
Iām surprised, here you canāt find dial controls anymore. How old are your ovens? The last one my parents had was from the 90s.
I was amazed experimenting with different combinations, for instance instead of 100, using 60 for a minute, 90 for 1:30, and stupid stuff like heating with 11, 22, 55 seconds and so, to make it quicker to type any time.
among these options, 3
Although I like it more ātwtā, without the dot and with a t at the end
Something interesting to think about for twtxt
, the microblogging for hackers and friendsā¦
The biggest challenge of ActivityPub is that itās too technical to easily explain to regular people. Nobody is interested in a jargon-laden diatribe about servers and federation. When simple questions have overly complex answers, people tend to switch off.
https://activitypub.ghost.org/your-thoughts-on-onboarding/
well, Gemini clients like Lagrange allow to show inline images when you click on an image link. Text based clients, like Amfora, usually allow to watch the image in another āwindowā.
For example here: gemini://text.eapl.mx/en-making-a-tic-tac-toe-variant and there https://text.eapl.mx/en-making-a-tic-tac-toe-variant
I agree that some topics require images to make it easier to explain.
You have a microwave oven at home, right?
You can type 3 and 0 for 30 seconds, 100 for a minute (shown as 1:00), or 200 for two minutes (2:00).
What would happen if you type 777 and Start?
A) Nothing
B) Self-destruction
C) Will run for 7 minutes and 77 seconds (boring!)
What about 7777 ?
hey! Itās looking nice
ok, sounds like a ālargeā project to me.
Is it more an API (more oriented to developers), more oriented to UI/UX/Frontend? Perhaps both?
Iād go with prologicās advice of measuring and prioritizing. Perhaps you have a budget or at least something like āletās see how far can we reach in 6 monthsā, and possibly you wonāt finish in the time you have (just guessing).
Something that has helped me was defining āWhy do you we want to refactor this project?ā.
Could it be to make it compile on newer versions, or making it easier to grow and scale, or perhaps they are trying to sell that product to another company. Every reason has a different path, IMO.
1st thought⦠Run!
Well, Iāve heard you have plenty of experience with Unit Testing and TDD. Perhaps designing a few tests before refactoring?
Iāve heard of Snapshot testing, but have never tried it: https://github.com/spatie/phpunit-snapshot-assertions
Also, what kind of refactor are you trying to do?
thatās a fair point.
Perhaps, since Twitter in 2006 never implemented read flags, every derivative microblogging system never saw that as an expected feature. This is curious because Twitter started with SMS, where on our phones we can mark messages as read or unread.
I think it all comes from the difference between reading an email (directed to you) vs. reading public posts (like a blog or a āwall,ā where you donāt mark posts as read). Itās not necessary to mark it as āreadā, you just jump over it.
Reading microblogging posts in an email program is not common, I think, and I havenāt really used it, so I cannot say how it works, and whether it would be better for me or not.
However, Iāve used Thunderbird as a feed reader, and I understand the advantages when reading blog posts.
About read flags being simple, well⦠we just had a discussion this morning about how tracking read messages would require a lot of rethinking for clients such as timeline
where no state is stored. Even considering some kind of ānotification of unread messages or mentionsā is not expected for those minimalist client, so itās an interesting compromise to think about.
Linear feeds are a dark pattern - A proposal for Mastodon
https://tilde.town/~dzwdz/blog/feeds.html
Iāve polished the CSS style a bit, you can try it here: https://eapl.me/treed/
Hey, I like this simple Web game:
https://wordswithrobots.isotropic.us
2 players Codenames vs (or along) gpt-4o-mini
a year ago I had a struggle to find documentation about it and now it seems there are more examples, cool!
twtxt
(for now), although I see the community could be interested in.
I agree š, although itās easy to lose comments over time and are not so grouped by topic, itās not so easy to vote or make a survey about itā¦
I prefer a forum for that š
here are a few ideas you might take into consideration when designing a secure IM https://developer.virgilsecurity.com/docs/e3kit/fundamentals/secure-instant-messaging/
Obviously if youāve worked on something similar, you already know it, he