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In-reply-to » To the parents or teachers: How do you teach kids to program these days? 🤔

We’re all old farts. When we started, there weren’t a lot of options. But today? I’d be completely overwhelmed, I think.

Hence, I’d recommend to start programming with a console program. As for the language, not sure. But Python is probably a good choice

That’s what I usually do (when we have young people at work who never really programmed before), but it doesn’t really “hit” them. They’ve seen so much, crazy graphics, web pages, it’s all fancy. Just some text output is utterly boring these days. ☹️ And that’s my problem: I have no idea how I could possibly spark some interest in things like pointers or something “low-level” like that. And I truly believe that you need to understand things like pointers in order to program, in general.

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In-reply-to » To the parents or teachers: How do you teach kids to program these days? 🤔

I should probably clarify: Which language/platform? Something graphical or web-based right from the beginning or do you start with a console program?

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I don’t need an X11 compositor for fancy graphics effects or whatever. I have true hardware support for that.

My TFT just slightly burns in and then it looks like dmenu has a semi-transparent background.

Yeah.

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In-reply-to » When will the flat UI craze end? Can I get my buttons, scrollbars, and toolbars back, please?

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah, most of the graphical applications are actually KDE programs:

  • KMail – e-mail client
  • Okular – PDF viewer
  • Gwenview – image viewer
  • Dolphin – file browser
  • KWallet – password manager (I want to check out pass one day. The most annoying thing is that when I copy a password, it says that the password has been modified and asks me whether I want to save the changes. I never do, because the password is still the same. I don’t get it.)
  • KPatience – card game
  • Kdenlive – video editor
  • Kleopatra – certificate manager

Qt:

  • VLC – video player
  • Psi – Jabber client (I happily used Kopete in the past, but that is not supported anymore or so. I don’t remember.)
  • sqlitebrowser – SQLite browser

Gtk:

  • Firefox – web browser
  • Quod Libet – music player (I should look for a better alternative. Can’t remember why I had to move away from Amarok, was it dead? There was a fork Clementine or so, but I had to drop that for some unknown reason, too.)
  • Audacity – audio editor
  • GIMP – image editor

These are the things that are open right now or that I could think of. Most other stuff I actually do in the terminal.

In the past™, I used the Python KDE4 bindings. That was really nice. I could pass most stuff directly in the constructor and didn’t have to call gazillions of setters improving the experience significantly. If I ever wanted to do GUI programming again, I’d definitely go that route. There are also great Qt bindings for Python if one wanted to avoid the KDE stuff on top. The vast majority I do for myself, though, is either CLI or maybe TUI. A few web shit things, but no GUIs anymore. :-)

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In-reply-to » just spent like half an hour finding a terminal based color picker that would just. turn the cursor into a cross hair and let me pick from the screen. in linux fashion this was somehow difficult

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz i wound up with xcolor AND pastel at the same time, because xcolor does exactly what i want while pastel and its picker subcommand does the same thing, relying on xcolor, but brings up a nice graphic of the picked color and related colors, plus more than just the hex code. neat.

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rx pixel editor looks seen on HN today looks interesting to me (and the sort of thing I’ve wanted to build), but the vulkan support seems like overkill. Also, my graphics cards drivers are broken on Alpine, so the program probably won’t run. trying anyways.

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