@aelaraji@aelaraji.com Cool! 😎 Mind joining the same IRC space? 🙏

@javivf@adn.org.es Sorry. 😂 Meet me on IRC at irc.mills.io in #edgeguard 👌 I’m @james@yarn.mills.io there 😅

@prologic@twtxt.net where on IRC? Network, channel, nick? IRC is vast! It’s like saying, “meet me in Australia, and we go from there!” 😅

@javivf@adn.org.es Hit me up on IRC or something and we’ll get started 👌

@movq@www.uninformativ.de this is so real… i think we need to bring back topic focused groups but like with a little off topic side of things just in case people wanna go off topic. so the option’s there but the intent is the topic! microblogging isn’t best for this yeah. i think this is part of why IRC still goes strong for many tech people

@bender@twtxt.net I use it. It’s not the feature I use the most in the fediverse, but I communicate this way with several friends. For example, it’s the main way I talk to the original creator of the twtxt-el repository, the way people greet me for the first time or the way they notify me of some bugs in the software I maintain. I can even tell you that it’s the main way I talk to some maintainers of the Emacs community. If there are any of you reading my words, speak up!
Why not have the same? There are things I want to say to @prologic@twtxt.net in private, why should I have to send him an email or private IRC? Or an public twt.
Of course, here’s a topic we’ve already talked about: what is twtxt for you? For me it will always be a social network, in microblogging format, but an asynchronous way of communicating. And having a tool to control visibility is basic 😄
I look forward to hearing from you @eapl.me@eapl.me !

@xuu@txt.sour.is As I also mentioend on IRC I think this is a. bug?

@bender@twtxt.net Sure! 👍

{
    ...
   # Layer 4 Reverse Proxy
   layer4 {
      # Gopher
      0.0.0.0:70 {
         route {
            proxy <internal_ip>:70
         }
      }

      # IRC (TLS)
      0.0.0.0:6697 {
         route {
            proxy <internal_ip>:6697
         }
      }
   }
}

@prologic@twtxt.net want to share the snippet of your Caddyfile for irc.mills.io?

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz At the core, you need an ngircd.conf like this:

[Global]
    Name = your.irc.server.com
    Password = yourfancypassword
    Listen = 0.0.0.0
    Ports = 6667

    AdminInfo1 = Well, me.
    AdminInfo2 = Over here!
    AdminEMail = forget.it@example.invalid

[Options]
    Ident = no
    PAM = no

[SSL]
    CertFile = /etc/ssl/acme/your.irc.server.com.fullchain.pem
    KeyFile = /etc/ssl/acme/private/your.irc.server.com.key
    DHFile = /etc/ngircd/dhparam.pem
    Ports = 6669

Start it and then you can connect on port 6667. (The SSL cert/key must be managed by an external tool, probably something like certbot or acme-client.)

I’m assuming OpenBSD here. Haven’t tried it on Linux lately, let alone Docker. 😅

@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I already have my IRC server irc.mills.io running behind Caddy Layer 4. However I don’t terminate TLS at the edge in this case.

is it like… ethical to offer access to certain self hosted services as patreon exclusives. like i wanna offer the IRC client/bouncer i hosted which seems ok i think because i’ve seen pico.sh offer their instances of that as paid services. but the other ones i have in mind are alt web frontends for stuff like imgur and pinterest. and i just feel weird about it for some reason. idk i’m trying to think of ways to support my server stuff but every time i come up with something it feels weird

@movq@www.uninformativ.de i tried ngircd but couldn’t figure it out T__T i left it at the web client and bouncer for now but i might toy with an IRC server another time!

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz ngircd is nice: https://ngircd.barton.de/ You can absolutely host this on your server for you and your friends (I’ve been doing that for a very long time). Actually peering with something like libera is hard, though, because they have strict requirements and a lot of traffic. Then again, there’s no real benefit in peering, actually. IRC is pretty “decentralized” anyway and people are usually used to connecting to several networks, so joining another one isn’t a big deal, imho. 🙃

guys i may be stupid. i confused IRC bouncer with IRC server

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I skimmed through the gamja docs and they say you need an “IRC WebSocket server” – no idea what that is. Does gamja not speak IRC directly but essentially “IRC over HTTP”? Curious. 🤔

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz i JUST want my own IRC server for fun. that is all i want

hey everyone i’ve spent my whole day trying to set up soju + gamja in docker and now i am down a rabbit hole of building caddy with layer4 support and trying to get TLS for my IRC server and NOTHING IS WORKING

@prologic@twtxt.net so, where is the irc.mills.io leaf, connecting to Libera? 🤭

@prologic@twtxt.net this was for IRC, but pong! 🏓

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev I honestly think IRC is better anyway 🤣

I left XMPP because I found no interactions. Long live IRC!

@bender@twtxt.net IRC man 🤣

@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz @eldersnake@we.loveprivacy.club @abucci@anthony.buc.ci – I’ve already spoken to @xuu@txt.sour.is on IRC about this, but the new SqliteCache backend I’m working on here, what are your thoughts regarding mgirations from old MemoryCache (which is now gone in the codebase in this branch). Do you care to migrate at all, or just let the pod re-fetch all feeds? 🤔

@prologic@twtxt.net, from IRC:

1. Saving preferences is failing. Specifically trying to save “Open Links” on the same window. For sure it isn’t happening. Check errors on browser’s console.
   
2. Search results pagination is broken. Search for “twtxt.net” and see it. Also, picking oldest/newest makes no difference on that search query.

You can find the #twtxt-el channel in Libera IRC to talk about the twtxt.el client, I will keep my connection open so you can ask me questions. Thank you!

So what are some good alternatives to GitHub, that are not based in USA?
I like the minimal feel of sourcehut but it seem you have to pay if you want your, not just submit patches to others repos. But they also got IRC bouncer and mailing-lists included. Codeberg also looks appealing being based in Germany.

I have said this before, but since I have been back on #IRC I am talking to a lot of interesting people.
Can you recommend some channels on Libera?

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Sorry I missed your messages to #twtxt on IRC. There are people there, but it can take several hours to get a response. E.g. I check it every day or two. I recommend using an IRC bouncer. To answer your question about registries, I used a couple of registries when I first started out, to try to find feeds to follow, but haven’t since then. I don’t remember which ones, but they were easy to find with web searches.

I don’t know. Maybe it’s dumb secure for ddos and botnets? But it can be used not only with IRC

Remembered about one ISP which disallow IRC stuff on his servers. By searching i found what it’s many ISP’s which equals IRC to proxy and doorways. This is unfair!

@prologic@twtxt.net What IRC client is that?

Hah, seems i cant connect to plain because irc+insecure://irc.mills.io also not work (my bouncer powered by soju)

Lol, irc.mills.io has expired certificate until 2018 year 0_0

What are peoples #IRC setup? Do you have your own bouncer server or just have a you computer always on? And do you IRC on mobile?

I would love to see a world where ones twtxt feed is defined by webfinger. So @xuu@txt.sour.is => https://text.sour.is/user/xuu/twtxt.txt

Then my identity can exist independent of the feed location. And I can host multiple protocol types for my feed. Ie. http/gopher/Gemini/irc DCC/etc

@benk@kwiecien.us I am using jenny (we chatted a bit on IRC earlier today). I have been using it for over five months now, I think. It is truly a joy to use, specially because you can use the power of Mutt/NeoMutt to read your twts.

So the evolution of my nick is as follows. I had a bicycle that had the word Zephyr written on it. Which means a western wind. That is related to the Greek god Zephyrus.

I liked words where X make a Z sound. And also had a bit of dyslexia so my firs IRC nick was Xypher swapping the y and e.. I would also use the forms Xypherius or just Xypheri.

Because its close hemming to Cypher I found the nick would get used by others.. Though that is not my origin.

Later I would sign websites I created as The X-Urban Underground (where X was short for Xypher) and that evolved to xuu. Pronounced like zoo.

ironically, IRC has more slack than Slack

@prologic “we should fight for IRC more” another slack “Definition: Slack. The absence of binding constraints on behavior.” https://thezvi.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/slack/

@prologic@twtxt.net that would be an interesting idea. I think your current spec of using an SMTP proto is probably best for DM.

but having a federation of IRC servers would be interesting for realtime twt propagation.

@prologic@twtxt.net sometimes I think it would be nice to have a XMPP instance. then I remember it’s all XML and I think “nah.”

I am constantly in awe that IRC remains the only realtime chat that isn’t unnecessarily complex. name another that can run chatops bot with just nc and sh?

I’m not working on bussard, I’m just IRC friends with @technomancy@technomancy.us and he expressed interest in making scheme available there.