@bender@twtxt.net You guessed right 🤣

@iolfree@tilde.club Fuck no. 😅

@bender@twtxt.net LOL how would I have guessed that?! 🤣

@bender@twtxt.net Thank you! I am writting on PR page.

@prologic@twtxt.net Spain. Duh! 😂

@prologic@twtxt.net Yesterday Spain, Portugal, maybe Morocco, were without electricity for 12 hours. I could not work. My home server was down, my feed and pages were online because of that 😂

@javivf@adn.org.es 12 Hlirs without power? 🧐 Where do you reside?! 🤣

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org likewise I don’t have the energy for a fundamental shift in any of our specifications that would inevitably cause a lot of toil and try and change in our clients implementations and unforeseen problems that we haven’t really fully understood:

@movq@www.uninformativ.de At this point someone needs to make a decision 🤣 @bender@twtxt.net keeps reminding me of that😅

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Agreed, finding the right motivation can be tricky. You sometimes have to torture yourself in order to later then realize, yeah, that was actually totally worth it. It’s often hard.

I think if you find a project or goal in general that these kids want to achieve, that is the best and maybe only choice with a good chance of positive outcome. I don’t know, like building a price scraper, a weather station or whatever. Yeah, these are already too advanced if they never programmed, but you get the idea. If they have something they want to build for themselves for their private life, that can be a great motivator I’ve experienced. Or you could assign ‘em the task to build their own twtxt client if they don’t have any own suitable ideas. :-)

Showing them that you do a lot of your daily work in the shell can maybe also help to get them interested in text-based boring stuff. Or at least break the ice. Lead by example. The more I think about it, the more I believe this to be very important. That’s how I still learn and improve from my favorite workmate today in general. Which I’m very thankful of.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Wow, that’s sick! Assuming the rendering is correct, I never realized the mountain ranges being this steep and tall. This has real education potential for geography classes. Really cool!

@movq@www.uninformativ.de In case you reconsider, it would be even easier then to just send an HTTP 429 Too Many Requests. :-)

@bender@twtxt.net Hehehe! :-D

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I have to admit, I didn’t follow the topic very closely, but I was under the impression that there were more votes on location-based addressing. But maybe I’m completely wrong. Anyway. I don’t have the energy to be part of a fundamental debate.

@prologic@twtxt.net Thank you for writing this together. I just left a few comments.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org

Also, I see what you did there in regards to the reply model change poll. ]:->

The community is heavily divided in this regard, and yet we need consensous. We’re like the three Borg in VOY: Survival Instinct. 🥴

@prologic@twtxt.net if not that, what else? Communism? Is there, really, such thing? 🤣

@prologic@twtxt.net 🚀🚀🚀🎉🎉🎉

https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/twtxt.dev/pulls/28

@news-minimalist@feeds.twtxt.net so many “good news”, we are “winning” big time. I listen to NPR on my way to work, and they were talking about the foot depletion. You could hear the desperation of the people they put on, so incredibly sad. 😢

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org LOLed in RL, my office mates were, “what’s going on, where, what?!”. 😂

@movq@www.uninformativ.de DDoS their ass! 🤣

@bender@twtxt.net Yup! 👍

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Noice! 👌

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Hahahaha 🤣 I mean it’s “okay” every now and then, but what’s the point of having good clients and tools if we don’t use ‘em 🤣

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Yup! Will do 🤗

@movq@www.uninformativ.de You better push new code sooner!!

As @bender@twtxt.net says, that sounds like a bot. I’d just block the IP address, hoping it doesn’t change all the time. But then you know for sure that it’s the AI fuckwits.

Also, the devil in me thinks it’s funny to swap out the repo in question for something entirely different. :-D

@xuu@txt.sour.is Hahaha, that’s cool! You were (and still are) way ahead of me. :-)

We started with a simple traffic light phase and then added pedestrian crossing buttons. But only painting it on the canvas. In our computer room there was an actual traffic light on the wall and at the very end of the school year our IT basics teacher then modified the program to actually control the physical traffic light. That was very impressive and completely out of reach for me at the time. That teacher pulled the first lever for me ending up where I am now.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de oi, that has to be a bot. AI bot? Maybe not, but still a bot. I see this becoming more and more of an issue, sorry to say…

@prologic@twtxt.net Exactly, @bender@twtxt.net! :-D This is at the entrance of a veggie farm (11 & 12) where there are free-ranging kids playing on the road, so people should slow down when driving there to buy some supplies. I also wondered why the sign says “Halt!” instead of “Langsam fahren!” (Drive slowly!) or something like that. On second thought, maybe to actually park there on the street right at the property line.

I actually never walked on that road before and discovered that this was a dead end. There’s usually at the very least a foot path on which to continue when passing a farm. Not this time, though. I didn’t want to stamp down the high grass to cut across country, so I had to walk back maybe 150 meters. Not too bad.

@prologic@twtxt.net Phew, I’m indeed not twtxt.dev, because I sometimes actually do edit my feed with vim like a barbarian.

@prologic@twtxt.net Can you please draft up a specification for that proposed change with all the details? Such as which date do you actually refer to? Is it now() or the message’s creation timestamp? I reckon the latter is the case, but it’s undefined right now. Then we can discuss and potentially tweak the proposal.

Also, I see what you did there in regards to the reply model change poll. ]:->

@prologic@twtxt.net I have:

• jenny
  
• buckket’s original (patched, or not)
  
• tt/tt2
  
• Timeline
  
• Twtxtory
  
• Yarnd

We have 4 clients but this should be 6 I believe with tt2 from @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org and Twtxtory from @javivf@adn.org.es?

@bender@twtxt.net Same more or less 😅

@prologic@twtxt.net pinging the involved (@andros@twtxt.andros.dev, @abucci@anthony.buc.ci, @eapl.me@eapl.me, @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org, @movq@www.uninformativ.de, @sorenpeter@darch.dk), just in case. I might have forgotten someone, please feel free to ping them.

Finally I propose that we increase the Twt Hash length from 7 to 12 and use the first 12 characters of the base32 encoded blake2b hash. This will solve two problems, the fact that all hashes today either end in q or a (oops) 😅 And increasing the Twt Hash size will ensure that we never run into the chance of collision for ions to come. Chances of a 50% collision with 64 bits / 12 characters is roughly ~12.44B Twts. That ought to be enough! – I also propose that we modify all our clients and make this change from the 1st July 2025, which will be Yarn.social’s 5th birthday and 5 years since I started this whole project and endeavour! 😱 #Twtxt #Update

@prologic@twtxt.net I now see my twtxts as written in the proverbial stone. That is, no edits, no deletions, no matter how embarrassing their content might be. 😅

Hear, hear, @prologic@twtxt.net! :-)

And speaking of Twtxt (See: #xushlda, feeds should be treated as append-only. Your client(s) should be appending Twts to the bottom of the file. Edits should never modify the timestamp of the Twt being edited, nor should a Twt that was edited by deleted, unless you actually intended to delete it (but that’s more complicated as it’s very hard to control or tell clients what to do in a truely decentralised ecosystem for the deletion case). #Twtxt #Client #Recommendations

Just like we don’t write emails by hand anymore (See: #a3adoka), we don’t manually write Twts or update our twtxt.txt feeds. Instead, we use modern Twtxt clients that conform to the specifications at Twtxt.dev for a seamless, automated experience. #Twtxt #Twt #UserExperience

@bender@twtxt.net Hehe good sleuthing 🤣 I swear it was an edit ✍️ Haha 😂 yarnd now “sees” both every single time, where-as before it would just obliterate the old Twt, but remain in archive. Now you get to see both 😅 Not sure if that’s a good thing or not, but it certainly makes it much clearer how to write “code logic” for detecting edits and doing something more UX(y) about ‘em 🤔

@bender@twtxt.net It’s pretty cool though 🤣

@sorenpeter@darch.dk you raw feed says otherwise. Also, https://txt.sour.is/conv/wj5bcwq.

@sorenpeter@darch.dk Oh!

@prologic@twtxt.net it was not an edit but a double posting

@prologic@twtxt.net yup. Funny enough, the first twtxt should have sufficed, as if there is no domain, there will be no feed (at that domain). The edit to add that the feed will not be available is redundant.

@prologic@twtxt.net stop fooling around, and smell the flowers (careful with the bees, they sting)! An unofficial sign done by children, I am sure. :-D

@javivf@adn.org.es Go for it! You’re free to use it.
It’s been a community adventure to explore the whole DM/encryption thing. So the community can do with it whatever they want. 😎

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org hey pascal bro! My first coding class was with an old Borland Turbo Pascal. I made my own little window manager for the assignments for class.

The teacher didn’t appreciate it much since I had to print out the code to turn it in. My Yatzee game was a stack of pages. 🤪

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Very nice! 👌 So lovely and green 😅 – What’s with the sign in

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Interesting edit observed by the new yarnd powering this pod twtxt.net 🧐

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I’ve tried and there’s little interest so I’ve given up for now 😭

@bender@twtxt.net Wut?! 😂

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org yikes! I knew there will be collateral damage, but I wasn’t expecting it to affect The Tubes! 😱

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I started with Delphi in school, the book (that we never ever used even once and I also never looked at) taught Pascal. The UI part felt easy at first but prevented me from understanding fundamental stuff like procedures or functions or even begin and end blocks for ifs or loops. For example I always thought that I needed to have a button somewhere, even if hidden. That gave me a handler procedure where I could put code and somehow call it. Two or three years later, a new mate from the parallel class finally told me that this wasn’t necessary and how to do thing better.

You know all too well that back in the day there was not a whole lot of information out there. And the bits that did exist were well hidden. At least from me. Eventually discovering planet-quellcodes.de (I don’t remember if that was the original forum or if that got split off from some other board) via my best schoolmate was like finding the Amber Room. Yeah, reading the ITG book would have been a very good idea for sure. :-)

In hindsight, a console program without the UI overhead might have been better. At least for the very start. Much less things to worry about or get lost.

Hence, I’d recommend to start programming with a console program. As for the language, not sure. But Python is probably a good choice, it doesn’t require a lot of surrounding boilerplate like, say Java or Go. It also does exceptionally well in the principle of least surprise.

@sorenpeter@darch.dk I see, ta. The big spring cleaning continues. ;-)

Hi @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org, I canceled the domain, so neotxt or my feed there are not coming back.

@bender@twtxt.net Must be the US tariffs, it’s working reasonably quick in Europe. :-D

@twtxtory@twtxtory.adn.org.es sorry, it isn’t. After you enter the password, it takes a very long time to render anything. I don’t have the patience to wait. Longest I waited is 3 minutes, and nothing. Super extremely slow.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Your next experiment should be triangles. :-)

@bender@twtxt.net Oh 🤣🤣🤣

@prologic@twtxt.net ah, yes, a feed that I have muted. 😂

Should ink to this

@javivf@adn.org.es the demo doesn’t work. When trying to login, it simply times out.

@prologic@twtxt.net oh, sorry, you are right. Beautiful 404. The most beautiful 404 I have ever seen. Tremendous! 🤪

@bender@twtxt.net What you talk’n about 🤣 It’s not broken, it’s perfectly functional 🤣

@prologic@twtxt.net first we need to fix broken links. 😅

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Seems legit 😅

I have a great idea for fixing the US economy. Get rid of all the nuclear weapons 🤣

@javivf@adn.org.es Wanna list it on twtxt.dev? 🧐

@javivf@adn.org.es Ahh! So this is your client implementation? 🧐

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Bwahahaahaaa, this is fucking brilliant, I love it! :-D What a wonderful thing to start my Sunday.

@prologic@twtxt.net This was like 20 minutes, but yeah 🤣

Today I added support for Let’s Encrypt to eris via DNS-01 challenge. Updated the gcore libdns package I wrote for Caddy, Maddy and now Eris. Add support for yarn’s cache to support # type = bot and optionally # retention = N so that feeds like @tiktok@feeds.twtxt.net work like they did before, and… Updated some internal metrics in yarnd to be IMO “better”, with queue depth, queue time and last processing time for feeds.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Only 99.9% pfffft 🤣

@twtxtory@twtxtory.adn.org.es Hello 👋 Welcome to Yarn.social / Twtxt 😅

@javivf@adn.org.es pretty much 👌

@quark@ferengi.one I do have an idea for syncing this 🤞

@prologic@twtxt.net and this reply will work too.

@prologic@twtxt.net well, this fork will work. I an fork this one with jenny, not so with Yarnd.

@aelaraji@aelaraji.com 😂

$ bat https://twtxt.net/twt/edgwjcq | jq '.subject'
"(#yarnd)"

hahahahaha 🤣 Does your client allow you to do this or what? 🤔

@bmallred@staystrong.run Hehe, @bender@twtxt.net is gonna be upset with you for “making up a thread/subject” 🤣

@bmallred@staystrong.run No! Never 😆

yey! it works! Good night @bender@twtxt.net!

@aelaraji@aelaraji.com let me reply before going to sleep. 😂😂😂

@bender@twtxt.net YAYYYY TY

@bender@twtxt.net It isn’t @aelaraji@aelaraji.com’s fault at all here 😅 I think the only way I can improve this somewhat is by introducing a similar convergence that I believe @movq@www.uninformativ.de built for Jenny which would fetch the mentioned feed temporarily to see if it contains the subject being replied to (in case it’s not in the cache).

I’ll think about doing this too, but I have to do it carefully so as not to cost too much in terms of resources or performance…

@prologic@twtxt.net I don’t understand what’s happening. It often happens with @aelaraji@aelaraji.com Replies are often simply disconnected.

@bender@twtxt.net Nah it’s there but it’s a reply to a thread that isn’t found here hmmm 🤔

@aelaraji@aelaraji.com I replied to this twtxt with https://twtxt.net/twt/yqrdx4q, and it created its own, totally unconnected.

I replied to a twtxt from @aelaraji@aelaraji.com, which is now gone(?).

@aelaraji@aelaraji.com I don’t think they have ever replied to anyone. Just checked their raw feed.

@bender@twtxt.net Oh I see hmmm 🧐

Related Twt

/ME slipping a note under @klaxzy@klaxzy.net’s keyboard.

Note: “You should check https://marginalia-search.com/ I bet you’ll love it.”

@bender@twtxt.net Hah! 😂

@bender@twtxt.net Well… I don’t believe it’s possible to prevent or avoid all system accidents. However, managing system safety and putting in control structures goes a long way 👌

@prologic@twtxt.net is just is! For me, that is.

@bender@twtxt.net How is this dense or boring? 🧐