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feeds.twtxt.net
 (1y ago)

(#6z7qt4a) You’re all wrong 😑 @anth@anth will happily tell you (hopefully) that we’ve been doing this whole “microblogging” / “status …
You’re all wrong 😑 @anth @a.9srv.net will happily tell you ( hopefully) that we’ve been doing this whole “microblogging” / “status update” thing decades earlier than anything you’ve ever seen in the form of finger 🤣 and “plan” files 😅 ⌘ Read more

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prologic-twtxt-atom-feed
feeds.twtxt.net
 (1y ago)

(#tzctugq) @lyse@lyse I also think we need to remove ourselves a bit from the “Twtxt” format as it was originally designed by Buckke …
@lyse @lyse.isobeef.org I also think we need to remove ourselves a bit from the “Twtxt” format as it was originally designed by Buckket.

The beauty of twtxt is, you put one file on your server, done. One.

I’m not talking ( nor ever was here) about that. We should be allowed to and encourage dot evolve its … ⌘ Read more

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prologic-twtxt-atom-feed
feeds.twtxt.net
 (1y ago)

(#6gfpeea) @lyse@lyse Sorry I didn’t mean to upset you or anyone here in the community. I am/was merely trying to solve what I perce …
@lyse @lyse.isobeef.org Sorry I didn’t mean to upset you or anyone here in the community. I am/was merely trying to solve what I perceive to be a problem and an ask in the community:

How do I know what a hash refers to?

I believe the reason for this stems from a curiosity of the user of whether they might … ⌘ Read more

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lyse
lyse.isobeef.org
 (1y ago)
↳ In-reply-to » One of the biggest gripes of the community with the way the threading model currently works with Twtxt v1.2 (https://twtxt.dev) is this notion of:

@prologic@twtxt.net We can’t agree on this idea because that makes things even more complicated than it already is today. The beauty of twtxt is, you put one file on your server, done. One. Not five million. Granted, there might be archive feeds, so it might be already a bit more, but still faaaaaaar less than one file per message.

Also, you would need to host not your own hash files, but everybody else’s as well you follow. Otherwise, what is that supposed to achieve? If people are already following my feed, they know what hashes I have, so this is to no use of them (unless they want to look up a message from an archive feed and don’t process them). But the far more common scenario is that an unknown hash originates from a feed that they have not subscribed to.

Additionally, yarnd’s URL schema would then also break, because https://twtxt.net/twt/<hash> now becomes https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/<hash>, https://twtxt.net/user/bender/<hash> and so on. To me, that looks like you would only get hashes if they belonged to this particular user. Of course, you could define rules that if there is a /user/ part in the path, then use a different URL, but this complicates things even more.

Sorry, I don’t like that idea.

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prologic
twtxt.net
 (1y ago)

One of the biggest gripes of the community with the way the threading model currently works with Twtxt v1.2 (https://twtxt.dev) is this notion of:

What is this hash?
What does it refer to?

Idea: Why can’t we all agree to implement a simple URI scheme where we host our Twtxt feeds?

That is, if you host your feed at https://example.com/twtxt.txt – Why can’t or could you not also host various JSON files (let’s agree on the spec of course) at https://example.com/twt/<hash> ? 🤔

That way we solve this problem in a truly decentralised way, rather than every relying on yarnd pods alone.

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prologic-twtxt-atom-feed
feeds.twtxt.net
 (1y ago)

**One of the biggest gripes of the community with the way the threading model currently works with Twtxt v1.2 () is this notion of:

What is t …**
One of the biggest gripes of the community with the way the threading model currently works with Twtxt v1.2 ( https://twtxt.dev) is this notion of:

What is this hash?

What does it refer to?

Idea: Why can’t we all agree to implement a simple URI scheme where we host our Twtxt feeds?

That is, if you host your feed at https://example.com/twtxt.txt – Why can’t o … ⌘ Read more

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prologic-twtxt-atom-feed
feeds.twtxt.net
 (1y ago)

So… Cylone Alfred made landfall (whatever that means) last night, and I watched it hit my wife’s Uncle/Aunt’s place on one of the outer isla …
So… Cylone Alfred made landfall ( whatever that means) last night, and I watched it hit my wife’s Uncle/Aunt’s place on one of the outer islands, then move westwards and sort of fizzle out. It’s now been downgrade to a “Tropical Low” ( I guess not good enough for a Cat X anymore?), but we’re still in the Eye of it, and there’s still a swirling mass of winds ( just not as fast). Now we … ⌘ Read more

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xuu
txt.sour.is
 (1y ago)
↳ In-reply-to » lang=en @xuu gotcha! From that PR #17 I think it was reverted? We could discuss about metadata later this month, as it seems that I'm the only person using it.

it seems to be confused with the subject right next to it.. it works better at the end of the twt string.
Yarn won’t display anything. but the parser does add it to the AST in a way that you can parse it out using twt.Attrs().Get("lang")

https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/go-lextwt/src/branch/main/ast.go#L1270-L1272

https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/go-types/src/branch/main/twt.go#L473-L478

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dev.txt.sour.is
 (1y ago)
↳ In-reply-to » lang=en @xuu gotcha! From that PR #17 I think it was reverted? We could discuss about metadata later this month, as it seems that I'm the only person using it.

it seems to be confused with the subject right next to it.. it works better at the end of the twt string.
Yarn won’t display anything. but the parser does add it to the AST in a way that you can parse it out using twt.Attrs().Get("lang")

https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/go-lextwt/src/branch/main/ast.go#L1270-L1272

https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/go-types/src/branch/main/twt.go#L473-L478

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eapl.me
eapl.me
 (1y ago)
↳ In-reply-to » @eapl.me There are several points that I like, but I want to highlight number 7. https://text.eapl.mx/a-few-ideas-for-a-next-twtxt-version #twtxt

a few async ideas for later

The editing process needs a lot of consideration and compromises.

From one side, editing and deleting it’s necessary IMO. People will do it anyway, and personally I like to edit my texts, so I’d put some effort on make it work.
Should we keep a history of edits? Should we hash every edit to avoid abuse? Should we mark internally a twt as deleted, but keeping the replies?

I think that’s part of a more complete ‘thread’ extension, although I’d say it’s worth to agree on something reflecting the real usage in the wild, along with what people usually do on other platforms.

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prologic-twtxt-atom-feed
feeds.twtxt.net
 (1y ago)

(#jwfdkuq) This seems to be capable of supporting edits as you noted. But I need to think a bit more (~2am here now) of whether this can be abus …
This seems to be capable of supporting edits as you noted. But I need to think a bit more (~2am here now) of whether this can be abused in any way… The advantage of Content-based Addressing ( hashing the content) is that the hash is then immutable, meaning that we can have integrity that the hash actually represents that content from that author at that time. ⌘ Read more

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eapl.me
eapl.me
 (1y ago)
↳ In-reply-to » @eapl.me There are several points that I like, but I want to highlight number 7. https://text.eapl.mx/a-few-ideas-for-a-next-twtxt-version #twtxt

looks good to me!

About alice’s hash, using SHA256, I get 96473b4f or 96473B4F for the last 8 characters. I’ll add it as an implementation example.
The idea of including it besides the follow URL is to avoid calculating it every time we load the file (assuming the client did that correctly), and helps to track replies across the file with a simple search.

Also, watching your example I’m thinking now that instead of {url=96473B4F,id=1} which is ambiguous of which URL we are referring to, it could be something like:
{reply_to=[URL_HASH]_[TWT_ID]} / {reply_to=96473B4F_1}
That way, the ‘full twt ID’ could be 96473B4F_1.

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prologic-twtxt-atom-feed
feeds.twtxt.net
 (1y ago)

**(#jwfdkuq) “`

default_lang = en discovery_url = https://example.com/discovery/ follow = alice https://example.com/alice.txt ABCDEF12 fo …**

”`

default_lang = en discovery_url = https://example.com/discovery/ follow = alice https://example.com/alice.txt ABCDEF12 follow = alice gemini://example.com/alice.txt avatar =

Image

avatar = gemini://example.com/avatar/alice.png

1 2025-03-03T15:00:00-04:00 {lang=en} Hello, world! Welcome to my twtxt feed. UTF-8 check: é, ö, ü.
2 2025-03-03T15:05: … ⌘ Read more

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xuu
txt.sour.is
 (1y ago)
↳ In-reply-to » @andros I've commented on the ticket: https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/twtxt.dev/issues/14#issuecomment-19142

True. Though if the idea turns out to be better.. then community will adopt it.

if you look at the subject for that twt you will see that it uses the extended hash format to include a URL address.

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xuu
dev.txt.sour.is
 (1y ago)
↳ In-reply-to » @andros I've commented on the ticket: https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/twtxt.dev/issues/14#issuecomment-19142

True. Though if the idea turns out to be better.. then community will adopt it.

if you look at the subject for that twt you will see that it uses the extended hash format to include a URL address.

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prologic-twtxt-atom-feed
feeds.twtxt.net
 (1y ago)

(#na4skgq) Remember any media outlet and even independent youtuber(s), etc, typically pick apart the bits they want to show and sensationalize t …
Remember any media outlet and even independent youtuber(s), etc, typically pick apart the bits they want to show and sensationalize things a bit 🤣 Yes there was a heated debate/argument, but it’s nowhere near as bad as some media outlets are making 🤦‍♂️ Also yes, JD is a hot head, Zelensky should have just shut up 😅 ⌘ Read more

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lyse
lyse.isobeef.org
 (1y ago)
↳ In-reply-to » (#tbyqv7a) @andros Do edits cause problems? I sometimes make them and didn't realize it may be an issue

@bmallred@staystrong.run Any edit automatically changes the twt hash, because the hash is built over the hash URL, message timestamp and message text. https://twtxt.dev/exts/twt-hash.html So, it is only a problem, if somebody replied to your original message with the old hash. The original message suddenly doesn’t exist anymore and the reply becomes detached, orphaned, whatever you wanna call it. Threading doesn’t break, though, if nobody replied to your message.

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prologic-twtxt-atom-feed
feeds.twtxt.net
 (1y ago)

(#na4skgq) I watched the full debate and yes, there was a heated argument in the last 10 minutes, but Trump pulled it back together calmly in th …
I watched the full debate and yes, there was a heated argument in the last 10 minutes, but Trump pulled it back together calmly in the end. All three of them were complete asses Trump, JD and Zelinski. ⌘ Read more

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prologic-twtxt-atom-feed
feeds.twtxt.net
 (1y ago)

**Idea: The entire world population email comments@whitehouse.gov with words of disdain 🤣 For example:

Dear Mr. President

Your behavior …**
Idea: The entire world population email comments@whitehouse.gov with words of disdain 🤣 For example:

Dear Mr. President

Your behavior today was woeful. I am writing to ask you to resign immediately before you make things much worse.

Kind regards

Citizen of the World ⌘ Read more

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prologic-twtxt-atom-feed
feeds.twtxt.net
 (1y ago)

So I contact the Miramar Police West District Station just now to seek help in finding out if a business called Claro Enterprise Solutions locat …
So I contact the Miramar Police West District Station just now to seek help in finding out if a business called Claro Enterprise Solutions located at 3350 SW 148th Ave #400, Miramar, FL 33027, Estados Unidos with phone number +19545177301 actually exists, is legit and to validate the phone number.

Why? Because someone or something from this ASN (netwo … ⌘ Read more

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aelaraji
aelaraji.com
 (1y ago)
↳ In-reply-to » (#jzdbrkq) What do you think? Where is the problem?

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev I believe you have just reproduced the bug… it looks like you’ve replayed to a twt but the hash is wrong. I can see the hash here from Jenny, but it doesn’t look like it corresponds to any{twt,thing}. if you check it out on any yarn instance it won’t look like a replay.

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