Updating my #Processing + #Python tools table:

https://github.com/villares/Resources-for-teaching-programming/blob/main/README.md#processing–python-tools-table

After some years, things changed and my opinions changed a bit too:

• #py5 is going supper strong and the “new snake_case names” are not an issue for me anymore. I used to worry a lot about all the Processing Python mode examples and teaching materials out there, and some of my own, with “CamelCase Processing names” I’m not worried at all about it anymore!

• For the record, Processing Python mode is just a legacy thing, no one should start anything with it.

• The great pure Python Processing implementation project #p5py seems stalled, latest release in Dec. 2023 :((( Advancing it was always going to be an uphill battle…

• The unrelated Brython based site p5py.com seems to be gone, so I removed it from the table.

• I added a link to my own #pyp5js hack py5pjs/py5mode because this is what I’m using most nowadays.

Updating my #Processing + #Python tools table:

https://github.com/villares/Resources-for-teaching-programming/blob/main/README.md#processing–python-tools-table

After some years, things changed and my opinions changed a bit too:

• #py5 is going super strong and the “new snake_case names” are not an issue for me anymore. I used to worry a lot about all the Processing Python mode examples and teaching materials out there, and some of my own, with “CamelCase Processing names” I’m not worried at all about it anymore!

• For the record, Processing Python mode is just a legacy thing, no one should start anything with it.

• The great pure Python Processing implementation project #p5py seems stalled, latest release in Dec. 2023 :((( Advancing it was always going to be an uphill battle…

• The unrelated Brython based site p5py.com seems to be gone, so I removed it from the table.

• I added a link to my own #pyp5js hack py5pjs/py5mode because this is what I’m using most nowadays.

Updating my #Processing + #Python tools table:

https://github.com/villares/Resources-for-teaching-programming/blob/main/README.md#processing–python-tools-table

After some years, things changed and my opinions changed a bit too:

• #py5 is going super strong and the “new snake_case names” are not an issue for me anymore. I used to worry a lot about all the Processing Python mode examples and teaching materials out there, and some of my own, with “CamelCase Processing names” I’m not worried at all about it anymore!

• For the record, Processing Python mode is just a legacy thing, no one should start anything with it.

• The great “pure Python” (no Java required) Processing implementation project #p5py seems stalled, latest release in Dec. 2023 :((( Advancing it was always going to be an uphill battle…

• The unrelated Brython based site p5py.com seems to be gone, so I removed it from the table.

• I added a link to my own #pyp5js hack py5pjs/py5mode because this is what I’m using most nowadays.

Updating my #Processing + #Python tools table:

https://github.com/villares/Resources-for-teaching-programming/blob/main/README.md#processing–python-tools-table

After some years, things changed and my opinions changed a bit too:

• #py5 is going super strong and the “new snake_case names” are not an issue for me anymore. I used to worry a lot about all the Processing Python mode examples and teaching materials out there, and some of my own, with “CamelCase Processing names” I’m not worried at all about it anymore!

• For the record, Processing Python mode is just a legacy thing, no one should start anything new with it.

• The great “pure Python” (no Java required) Processing implementation project #p5py seems stalled, latest release in Dec. 2023 :((( Advancing it was always going to be an uphill battle…

• The unrelated #Brython based site p5py.com seems to be gone, so I removed it from the table.

• I added a link to my own #pyp5js hack py5pjs/py5mode because this is the version of pyp5js I’m using most nowadays.

We did an experiment at work today: Do I even need to lock my laptop when I’m gone or is nobody able to use it anyway?

It went as expected. 🤣

@prologic@twtxt.net I’m so tired of this. (That’s the goal. They want to wear people down.)

This whole Age Verification that’s being rolled out in the UK, AU and parts of the EU is totally fucking bullshit. Death to the Online Safety Act.

Re. 1c97c : We have now [1913 and onwards] a situation in which U.S. citizens have been hoodwinked into accepting paper money which is owned by foreign corporations. More recently, U.S. citizens are allowing themselves to be hoodwinked into accepting bitcoin which is owned by foreign corporations. In both instances, it’s the foreign ownership which is the problem. I’ll want to review my notes on this, - but that’s what I remember just now.

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz If you’re willing to ignore that it’s proprietary software, then Windows used to be pretty good. Like, 25 years ago. After Windows 2000 (or maybe XP) it went downhill fast. Kind of makes me sad, actually. 😂

You can explicitly use colors in manpages. I saw this in the apt manpage of Ubuntu recently, which, for some reason, uses blue text in one place:

https://movq.de/v/de5ab72016/s.png

Makes little sense to me. I’m glad that most manpages don’t do this. I wouldn’t want unicorn vomit all over the place.

Using colors can be done using the low level commands \m and \M:

.TH foo_program 3
\m[blue]I'm blue\m[], da ba dee.
\m[red]\M[yellow]I'm red on yellow.\m[]\M[]
This is quite horrible.

https://movq.de/v/394282ec75/s.png

A ‘hey’ back to you, just to see whether I can reply - that was a problem the last time.

** Make awk rawk **
A friend online recently replied to something I wrote about awk by saying:

[…] it’s a danged shame [awk] didn’t continue to evolve the way Ruby, Python, PHP have evolved over the decades.

I had exactly this thought while working on my slightly unhinged“lets see if I can implement a basic scheme using awk by writing an assembler and VM in awk,” skwak. Which eventually lead me to start noodling on how to layer in some modern niceties into awk, without breaking awk’s portability.
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[47°09′01″S, 126°43′16″W] Transponder still failing – switching to analog communication

June 21st, 1789 - The Constitution for the United States of America is ratified, with New Hampshire becoming the ninth state to ratify. Article I, Sections 9 and 10 of the Constitution contain provisions which clearly prohibit the federal government and the states from granting titles: “No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States: and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign State. No State shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation; grant letters of marque and reprisal; coin money; emit bills of credit; make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts; pass any bill of attainder, ex postfacto law, or law impairing the obligation of contracts, or grant any title of nobility.” However, no penalty for violating the Article is specified.

My next try with twtxt - because it’s the closest to my idea of microblogging.

had my last first day of school today. it wasn’t great, but I am happy to be close to graduating.

[47°09′04″S, 126°43′37″W] Storm recedes – back to normal work

[47°09′18″S, 126°43′41″W] Working impossible due to heavy rain

@eldersnake@we.loveprivacy.club Yeah, it’s really the last thing we need. I’d love to see X11 getting more attention – but not like this …

[47°09′50″S, 126°43′45″W] Automatic systems disengaged due to thunderstorm

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org you will have to agree, though, that Yarn has contributed to make it possible to mass adopt (with its many glitches, bugs, and all) because, still, the web is king.

The ‘god bless’ line about Trump ?? Did John Glanton tell you to say that ? If yes, then why did you listen ?? Here in the United States of America we live in allegiance to our Republic. To whom has Trump ever shown any allegiance ? A god might possibly bless him, I’ve no doubt that he needs it rather desperately, - and anyway, gods tend to be trans-national.

[47°09′59″S, 126°43′21″W] Storm recedes – back to normal work

How do you get your man pages to hyphenate? Mine doesn’t do it.

#Pillow #PIL #Python

DeprecationWarning: 'mode' parameter is deprecated and will be removed in Pillow 13 (2026-10-15) img1 = PIL.Image.fromarray(my_array, mode="RGB")

So I went to see the documentation:

https://hugovk-pillow.readthedocs.io/en/latest/reference/Image.html#PIL.Image.fromarray

And came out empty handed, that is, couldn’t understand what to do instead :(

And the plot thickens:
https://github.com/python-pillow/Pillow/pull/9063

(@py5coding I guess you’ll want to check this out at some point. py5_tools.animated_gif uses this)

#Pillow #PIL #Python

DeprecationWarning: 'mode' parameter is deprecated and will be removed in Pillow 13 (2026-10-15) img1 = PIL.Image.fromarray(my_array, mode="RGB")

So I went to see the documentation:

https://hugovk-pillow.readthedocs.io/en/latest/reference/Image.html#PIL.Image.fromarray

And came out empty handed, that is, couldn’t understand what to do instead :(

And the plot thickens (this affects many projects, there are some workarounds, but some argument about “reverting” this change allowing some “mode” on import):

https://github.com/python-pillow/Pillow/pull/9063

(@py5coding@py5coding I guess you’ll want to check this out at some point. py5_tools.animated_gif uses mode=“RGB”)

#Pillow #PIL #Python
On Image.fromarray():

DeprecationWarning: 'mode' parameter is deprecated and will be removed in Pillow 13 (2026-10-15) img1 = PIL.Image.fromarray(my_array, mode="RGB")

So I went to see the documentation:

https://hugovk-pillow.readthedocs.io/en/latest/reference/Image.html#PIL.Image.fromarray

And came out empty handed, that is, couldn’t understand what to do instead :(

And the plot thickens (this affects many projects, there are some workarounds, but some argument about “reverting” this change allowing some “mode” on import):

https://github.com/python-pillow/Pillow/pull/9063

(@py5coding@py5coding I guess you’ll want to check this out at some point. py5_tools.animated_gif uses mode=“RGB”)

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz On the one hand, all these programs have a very long history and the technology behind manpages is actually very powerful – you can use it to write books:

https://www.troff.org/pubs.html

I have two books from that list, for example “The UNIX programming environment”:

https://movq.de/v/c3dab75c97/upe.jpg

It’s a bit older, of course, but it looks and feels like a normal book, and it uses the same tech as manpages – which I think is really cool. 😎

It’s comparable to LaTeX (just harder/different to use) but much faster than LaTeX. You can also do stuff like render manpages as a PDF (man -Tpdf cp >cp.pdf) or as an HTML file (man -Thtml cp >cp.html). I think I once made slides for a talk this way.

On the other hand, traditional manpages (i.e., ones that are not written in mandoc) do not use semantic markup. They literally say, “this text is bold, that text over here is italics”, and so on.

So when you run man foo, it has no other choice but to show it in black, white, bold, underline – showing it in color would be wrong, because that’s not what the source code of that manpage says.

Colorizing them is a hack, to be honest. You’re not meant to do this. (The devs actually broke this by accident recently. They themselves aren’t really aware that people use colors.)

If mandoc and semantic markup was more commonly used, I think it would be easier to convince the devs to add proper customizable colors.

There is a missing feature I’ve been intending to add to though, which is that any link that looks like a URL that might be an image, for example, ends with .png or .jpg or whatever, we should just render that as an image and not expect users to wrap it in Markdown image links ![](...)

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Ahh what do you mean by images don’t embed? They definitely should! By default however all domains are blocked, so you might want to either allow some domains or just put in a .* entry to allow all/any domsins. Screenshot attached

on my yarn pod nothing really embeds (not even images) so i’m looking at the embed rules part of the mod settings and i’m like… i don’t know how to do any of this 😭😭😭

XLOV are a really cool k-pop group. i just adore the concept of “gender is a fuck and we are going to do whatever we want” like that’s ballsy and epic and the members 100% sell it

#GitHub #GitHubPages #fail This is driving me mad…

Images randomly deciding not to load on all my pages.

Is it just me? Is it my browser’s fault? Is it just in Brazil?

I was working on this #shapely + #trimesh page… and I can only see the last image (the animated gif)!

https://abav.lugaralgum.com/material-aulas/Processing-Python-py5/shapely-e-trimesh.html

#GitHub #GitHubPages #fail This is driving me mad…

Images randomly deciding not to load on all my pages.

Is it just me? Is it my browser’s fault? Is it just in Brazil?

I was working on this #shapely + #trimesh page… and I can only see the last image (the animated gif)!

https://abav.lugaralgum.com/material-aulas/Processing-Python-py5/shapely-e-trimesh.html

Update: On this exact page I have bungled the image URLs (I blame Marktext for being stupid and not using a relative reference). But I swear loading problems have been going on other well formed pages.

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz @movq@www.uninformativ.de Sorry, I neither finished it nor in time. :-( That’s as good as it’s gonna get for the moment: https://git.isobeef.org/lyse/gelbariab/-/tree/master/rss-proxys?ref_type=heads

The README should hopefully provide a crude introduction. The example configuration file is documented fairly well, I believe (but maybe not). You probably still have to consult and maybe also modify the source code to fit your needs.

Let me know if you run into issues, have questions, wishes etc.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de @kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I also wondered for a very long time why nobody improved the man experience in the terminal. I’d love to see links and more colors.

i signed up for omg.lol and i’m really liking it. such a cozy and fun little community with a suite of fun web things. i wish the financial barrier to entry was a bit lower though (maybe like $5 for a few months on it or something) just so i could recommend it to my broke friends more, but i totally get why it’s priced the way it is (solo dev!!!)

mandoc is nicer to read/write than the man macro package and, most importantly, it’s semantic markup.

HTML output is a bit broken in GNU groff, though (OpenBSD on the left, GNU on the right):

https://movq.de/v/f1898e648f/s.png

🤔

Still, I’m inclined to convert my manpages to mandoc.

Seems like, that “God Bless the USA” phrase has gotten hijacked by people who don’t seem to know what national sovereignty is. Is their boy Trump aware of the existence of other nations ?

Why is it that I hate packing so badly? I gotta have to brace myself up to start that now.

The outlook is poor, rain all the way until maybe the last day of summer camp. Definitely bringing my gummies, they are well needed, the weather report announces several days with up to 14 liters per square meter.

Welcome to the club, @kiwu@twtxt.net!

So 429: Too Many Requests on my GitHub hosted images, breaking my tutorials etc… Not good!

July will be gone and my escape to Codeberg.org has not even started (I have to finish my PhD…)

@bender@twtxt.net I think it’s actually a new XEP proposal ( https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0084.html#proto-info ), but it’s still a bit unclear. Sorry for the late and vague response, I’m still trying to test it and see what it’s even about, didn’t yet find a server, that supports it.

EVERYONE SAY HI TO @kiwu@twtxt.net SHE’S MY LONGTIME BESTIE AND SUPER SWEET AND ALSO LOVES IDOLS LIKE ME :DDDD

In 1996, they came up with the X11 “SECURITY” extension:

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4w548u/what_is_up_with_the_x11_security_extension/

This is what could have (eventually) solved the security issues that we’re currently seeing with X11. Those issues are cited as one of the reasons for switching to Wayland.

That extension never took off. The person on reddit wonders why – I think it’s simple: Containers and sandboxes weren’t a thing in 1996. It hardly mattered if X11 was “insecure”. If you could run an X11 client, you probably already had access to the machine and could just do all kinds of other nasty things.

Today, sandboxing is a thing. Today, this matters.

I’ve heard so many times that “X11 is beyond fixable, it’s hopeless.” I don’t believe that. I believe that these problems are solveable with X11 and some devs have said “yeah, we could have kept working on it”. It’s that people don’t want to do it:

Why not extend the X server?

Because for the first time we have a realistic chance of not having to do that.

https://wayland.freedesktop.org/faq.html

I’m not in a position to judge the devs. Maybe the X.Org code really is so bad that you want to run away, screaming in horror. I don’t know.

But all this was a choice. I don’t buy the argument that we never would have gotten rid of things like core fonts.

All the toolkits and programs had to be ported to Wayland. A huge, still unfinished effort. If that was an acceptable thing to do, then it would have been acceptable to make an “X12” that keeps all the good things about X11, remains compatible where feasible, eliminates the problems, and requires some clients to be adjusted. (You could have still made “X11X12” like “XWayland” for actual legacy programs.)

[47°09′11″S, 126°43′59″W] Bad satellite signal – switching to analog communication

This is your friendly reminder that you could be making #PaperObjects with #Python and #py5, you know?

https://github.com/villares/Paper-objects-with-Processing-and-Python/

(Mind you that GitHub images are mostly failing to load here today for some unknown reason)

If you like this, support my work:
https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5B4MZ78C9J724
https://liberapay.com/Villares
https://wise.com/pay/me/alexandrev562
#Processing #CreativeCoding

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@kingdomcome@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I REPLIED TO THIS AND NOW IT’S NOT SHOWING WTFFFF anyway what i said was that i have some fun stuff in the daily note template already like ASCII weather forecast from wttr AND a jenny holzer quote from fortune!!! i should add more fun stuff!!!

Twtxt as a network is so neat. Sucks it isn’t more widely adopted ): I feel like it’d be way easier to host than say, mastodon or GTS. & would require WAYYYY less resources. Not a diss on GTS, I love GTS , just saying because it’s text files, I assume the minimum amount of ram needed to host any of the twtxt server software is very low.

I could be super wrong though lol. Idk shit about anything ^^”

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Thank you! I have to check out more of their stuff.

I wasn’t really aware until recently that programs can’t choose their own window’s position on Wayland. This is very weird to me, because this was not an issue on X11 to begin with: X11 programs can request a certain position and size, but the X11 WM ultimately decides if that request is being honored or not. And users can configure that.

But apparently, this whole thing is a heated debate in the Wayland world. 🤔

Since Fastly acquired and recently shut down glitch.com, some of my ancient webapps are no longer available, nor do I have any plans to make them available again - all had either zero, or very few monthly visits, used outdated libraries and would be a waste of money, to continue hosting and updating elsewhere.

All art archives remain unaffected and all projects shut down before 2025, were already permanently deleted, but if there’s someone out there, still relying on the recently discontinued projects, somehow - you can reach out and request their source code.

These requests will only be honoured, until the end of this year, when we plan to permanently delete, all of this data (both webapps and files only hosted on Amazons CDN).

Canine out °_°

This is just the universe telling me to reduce my screen time.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org To be fair, I did first notice this a while ago. But no monitor I ever had showed burn-ins like this (be it TFT or CRT), so I didn’t know that I should have sent it back. And then it got worse over time and now I see ghost images after 20-30 minutes. :(

juice=juice the best group to ever do it

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@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz after 5 years or so with Linode, I started having little—but annoying—issues with them. Moved to Vultr and have been very happy with them since Ubuntu 16.04, so 9 years, and a little bit more.

@prologic@twtxt.net yeah, because, you know, even if you try entering a fake date of birth, the “algorithms” will, move it like a Ouija board, changing it back to the right one /s. 🙄

@prologic@twtxt.net yeah, because, you know, even if you try entering a fake date of birth, the “algorithms” will move it, like a Ouija board, changing it back to the right one /s. 🙄

@prologic@twtxt.net i am trying!!! i have a lil template to encourage me and everything <3

A look at the issues list of a project, and you can easilly see how misguided the whole thing is:

https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/av-app-android-wallet-ui/issues

#EUDIWallet

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trying to start a new habit of taking daily notes in obsidian… i really hope i can make it stick!

As in regards to technology…

“Behind the scenes, U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer and EU’s Maroš Šefčovič hashed out technical annexes on automobiles, pharmaceuticals and digital trade.”

“Tech giants Microsoft’s cloud services, Apple’s iPhones and Google’s data solutions gain tariff-free pathway, fueling digital exports growth.”

“Digital Services: Microsoft announces a new 150 MW cloud data center in Berlin backed by tariff-free equipment imports; SAP commits to expanding U.S. R&D hubs in Austin, Texas.”

https://www.peacocktariffconsulting.com/can-the-new-u-s-eu-trade-pact-ignite-a-21st-century-global-commerce-revolution/

@movq@www.uninformativ.de i’m literally so happy i can’t wait to play with it

We ate the #burgers and drank the #beers before taking a picture to the #books during the second #BBB (Books, Beers and Burgers) of #2025 in #Lamego - oops!

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guys oh my god i went to the flea market and i found a WORKING POCKET PC PDA FOR 10 BUCKS. WE ARE SO BACK

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@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I HIT ENTER BEFORE I COULD PASTE LMFAOOOOOOOOO I MEANT TO ADD THIS https://github.com/9001/copyparty/

wrote a script to make epic aesthetic half tone images and i was impressed with myself how fast i did it but to be fair i already had the commands noted down and i just had to script it lmfao

@prologic@twtxt.net I’d expect a custom build like that to cost at least 50’000€ here in Europe. Used campers with 100’000 - 200’000 km already on their clock are 20-40k€, apparently. 😆

We just met again after sleep to clean up all the rest. I now got food for literally two weeks. At least. No kidding! I feel really bad for taking waaaaay more home than bringing along. :-/ Turned out that a bunch of people were absent without an excuse. :-( That rude behavior is beyond my comprehension.

Bloody AI clowns:

https://movq.de/v/34ccfc125c/s.png

How many IPs am I supposed to block, eh?

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Haha 😆 But OTOH not nearly as much as you think. Plus you get to build what you want!

@movq@www.uninformativ.de It’s about time to get a new monitor. How old is it, btw.?

Do I buy a new monitor or do I live with the burn-ins all the time? It’s getting annoying. When I edit images in GIMP, I have to double check if something is a pixel or a burn-in.

@prologic@twtxt.net Cool! What program do you use to draw this up?

@thecanine@twtxt.net Nice! :-)

When tidying up my good mate’s birthday party site last night we emptied the beer pong cups which had been filled with just ordinary tap water. There was also a cute dog whose owner gave it its drinking bowl, but it was not interested. Just for fun I offered it one of those water cups and it began to drink. We all had to laugh so hard because it was completely unexpected and looked so funny. Can’t describe this comicalness of the situation. :-D

Mine cost $200, plus delivery to the USA. Their site has the prices and everything. It is not a daily driver for me, though. Fun gadget.

I wish I could watch this (maybe they’ll record it… but I’m not sure):

“From #Fortran to #Python: A Conversation Across Generations of #ScientificComputing” #PyOhio

https://www.pyohio.org/2025/program/talks/from-fortran-to-python/

Stuff that nobody needs:

systemctl uses ANSI escape codes to underline text (\e[4m) and then it also uses special escape codes – that Wikipedia classifies as “not in the standard”, but I haven’t looked it up – to change the color of the underline. That color change is barely noticeable in the first place.

Some terminals don’t support this and now my systemctl output is blinking because of that.

37C3 and New Year’s Eve 2023
Another one from the vaults. The 37C3 conference took place in
December, 2023. This report was mostly written in January, 2024.
Mostly finished it at night in my cottage between 28 and 29th
December, then edited and added some stuff in July, 2025. So… Only
1.5 years late?

It was a little ironic, and a little sad, that I was finishing the
37C3 report during 38C3. I didn’t manage to get any tickets for me and
#3 for 38C3 and had to make do with watching the stream.

The links to the talks go to [C … ⌘ Read more

have you ever wanted to see an idol play violin live on stage? your wish has been granted

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guys i use VPS systems from time to time and they scare me. wdym they have every port open by default and the firewall is your responsibility. what the fuck bro

@movq@www.uninformativ.de i hope to become this cool

@movq@www.uninformativ.de That’s how it’s supposed to be. :-)

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org “Advanced”, well, probably more “mature”. There aren’t a ton of crazy features and that icon thing is the largest code addition in the last 10 years. %)

Speaking of OS/2 … I just realized that Windows 3.x didn’t have icons, either. If I’m not mistaken, this only got added in Windows 95. In other words, OS/2 had this feature before Windows did, because at least OS/2 2.1 from 1993 had icons. Who would have thunk.

(Now I kind of want to know which system really introduced this feature.)

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Oh, huh, maybe it was just my GNOME 2 themes back then that didn’t show the icon. 🤔

I like the looks of your window manager. That’s using Wayland, right?

Oh, no. It’s still X11. All my recent Wayland comments resulted from me trying to switch, but I think it’s still too early. Being unable to use QEMU (because it can’t capture the mouse pointer) is a pretty big blocker for me. This is completely broken, it just happens to be unnoticeable with modern guest OSes, so it’s probably not a priority for devs.

(Not to mention that I would have to fork and substantially extend dwl in order to “replicate” my X11 WM. And then, after having done that, I’d have to follow upstream Wayland development, for which I don’t have the resources. Things would need to slow down before I can do that.)

all that wasted space of the windows not making use of the full screen!!!1

Heh. I’ve been using tiling WMs for ~15 years now, so it’s actually kind of refreshing to see something different for a change. 😅

Probably close to the older Windowses.

That particular theme is a ripoff of OS/2 Warp 3: https://movq.de/v/6c2a948882/s.png 😅

We ran some similar brownish color scheme (don’t recall its name) on Win95 or Win98

Oh god. Yeah, I wasn’t a fan of those, either. 🥴

[47°09′07″S, 126°43′35″W] Bad satellite signal – switching to analog communication

@movq@www.uninformativ.de According to this screenshot, KDE still shows good old application icons: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/KDE_Plasma_5.21_Breeze_Twilight_screenshot.png

And GNOME used to have them, too: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Gnome-2-22_%284%29.png

I like the looks of your window manager. That’s using Wayland, right? The only thing on this screenshot to critique is all that wasted space of the windows not making use of the full screen!!!1 At least the file browser. 8-)

This drives me nuts when my workmates share their screens. I really don’t get it how people can work like that. You can’t even read the whole line in the IDE or log viewer with all the expanded side bars. And then there’s 200 pixels on the left and another 300 pixels on the right where the desktop wallpaper shows. Gnaa! There’s the other extreme end when somebody shares their ultra wide screen and I just have a “regularish” 16:10 monitor and don’t see shit, because it’s resized way too tiny to fit my width. Good times. :-D

Sorry for going off on a tangent here. :-) Back to your WM: It has the right mix of being subtle and still similar to motif. Probably close to the older Windowses. My memory doesn’t serve me well, but I think they actually got it fairly good in my opinion. Your purple active window title looks killer. It just fits so well. This brown one (https://www.uninformativ.de/blog/postings/2025-07-22/0/leafpads.png) gives me also classic vibes. Awww. We ran some similar brownish color scheme (don’t recall its name) on Win95 or Win98 for some time on the family computer. I remember other people visting us not liking these colors. :-D

working on a new astroJS based site and i hate being shit at web design because like i have the media for it ready (it’s for my fandom creations which are all done and ready to be shared here lol) but i keep agonizing over the design T__T

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org True, at least old versions of KDE had icons:

https://movq.de/v/0e4af6fea1/s.png

GNOME, on the other hand, didn’t, at least to my old screenshots from 2007:

https://www.uninformativ.de/desktop/2007%2D05%2D25%2D%2Dgnome2%2Dlaptop.png

I switched to Linux in 2007 and no window manager I used since then had icons, apparently. Crazy. An icon-less existence for 18 years. (But yeah, everything is keyboard-driven here as well and there are no buttons here, either.)

Anyway, my draft is making progress:

https://movq.de/v/5b7767f245/s.png

I do like this look. 😊

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Cool! I just got an idea for work tomorrow: Use dmenu to quickly start different SSH tunnels I routinely need.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Wow, up until now, it never occurred to me that dependencies can be optional. :-O I gotta put that on my research list.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I haven’t used KDE or GNOME for ages, but I’m sure KDE at least used to show application icons in the title bars. They proabably still do. But then, one could argue that KDE is mimicking Windows. I never thought like that, I always found KDE way superior, because I was able to configure it like a madman.

In i3, I don’t have any application icons. I remember missing them at the beginning. But I don’t even have the classical minimize, maximize and close buttons in the title bar either. Just the title. Being mostly keyboard driven and a tiling window manager, these buttons are not super useful, anyway.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de @kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I’m just used to it because I deal with such things all the time. :-)

Here’s an example of X11/Xlib being old and archaic.

X11 knows the data type “cardinal”. For example, the window property _NET_WM_ICON (which holds image data for icons) is an array of “cardinal”. I am already not really familiar with that word and I’m assuming that it comes from mathematics:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_number

(It could also be a bird, but probably not: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinalidae)

We would probably call this an “integer” today.

EWMH says that icons are arrays of cardinals and that they’re 32-bit numbers:

https://specifications.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/latest-single/#id-1.6.13

So it’s something like 0x11223344 with 0x11 being the alpha channel, 0x22 is red, and so on.

You would assume that, when you retrieve such an array from the X11 server, you’d get an array of uint32_t, right?

Nope.

Xlib is so old, they use char for 8-bit stuff, short int for 16-bit, and long int for 32-bit:

https://x.org/releases/current/doc/libX11/libX11/libX11.html#Obtaining_and_Changing_Window_Properties

That is congruent with the general C data types, so it does make sense:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_data_types

Now the funny thing is, on modern x86_64, the type long int is actually 64 bits wide.

The result is that every pixel in a Pixmap, for example, is twice as large in memory as it would need to be. Just because Xlib uses long int, because uint32_t didn’t exist, yet.

And this is something that I wouldn’t know how to fix without breaking clients.

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz NVM i stole other peoples code to make a dictionary lookup script https://bytes.4-walls.net/kat/dotfiles/src/branch/main/config/.local/bin/dict

i wanna figure out more things to do with dmenu but i don’t really know man the emoji picker is hard to beat

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org They are optional dependencies and listed as such:

$ pacman -Qi pinentry
Name            : pinentry
Version         : 1.3.1-5
Description     : Collection of simple PIN or passphrase entry dialogs which
                  utilize the Assuan protocol
Optional Deps   : gcr: GNOME backend [installed]
                  gtk3: GTK backend [installed]
                  qt5-x11extras: Qt5 backend [installed]
                  kwayland5: Qt5 backend
                  kguiaddons: Qt6 backend
                  kwindowsystem: Qt6 backend

And it’s probably a good thing that they’re optional. I wouldn’t want to have all that installed all the time.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Following all your Wayland endeavors, it doesn’t sound like a mature and usable thing to me yet.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I found it quite easy to mentally parse this structure.

We finally got a caliper donated for this year’s scout flea market. We didn’t sell it, but kept it ourselves. It will come in very handy every now and then in our material store. For example, I missed having a caliper in the past when sorting our random assortment of screws or measuring the depth of a hole. It’s a wee bit banged up (probably happened during transport) and didn’t come with a box, but the latter is now solved.

The lid and bottom came from a wardrobe back panel I got from a mate, the sides were rocket sticks in their former lives. I found some scrap of felt in our material store and some hinges laying around in the drawers of my own workshop.

Unfortunately, the table saw teared up the plywood veneer fibres badly, even though I put tape around to prevent that. This is the first time it didn’t work. At. All. To cover that up, I painted the box with some decades old tinting paint (price tag says Deutsche Mark, not Euro!) from my paint cabinet. It’s awesome, works absolutely perfectly and doesn’t smell the slightest bit. I reckon, this caliper box is plenty good enough for occasional use at our scout material store.

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