@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org what are you making?
@prologic@twtxt.net Tried that - but that did not seem to change anything. But still - worth to do the update anyways, that way I do not have to worry about that for a good while. Itās a pain when it falls too far behind.
@prologic@twtxt.net Upgrading debian now on server, fingers crossed :)
@prologic@twtxt.net Most likely, ancient debian on that webserver - Iāll assume the problem is on my end and see if I can get it sorted.
@prologic@twtxt.net Iām sure Monroe would like to know about them.
@prologic@twtxt.net Iām sure Monroe would like to know about them.
@eaplmx@twtxt.net I didnāt like the original click wheel. I think the first mini wheel was the better of them
@eaplmx@twtxt.net I didnāt like the original click wheel. I think the first mini wheel was the better of them
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@movq@uninformativ.de yeah.. i rewrote it a few times because i thought there was something breaking.. but was mistaken
though now i am seeing a weird cache corruption.. that seems to come and go.

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@movq@uninformativ.de yeah.. i rewrote it a few times because i thought there was something breaking.. but was mistaken
though now i am seeing a weird cache corruption.. that seems to come and go.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org @prologic@twtxt.net yeah that was how i did it too. I think ill start using the debug version in new stuff since its been added. My comment was around assigning the result of an anonymous function to a a variable.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org @prologic@twtxt.net yeah that was how i did it too. I think ill start using the debug version in new stuff since its been added. My comment was around assigning the result of an anonymous function to a a variable.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org nice sunset is an understatement. I can feel the coolness approaching!
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@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org ill check this out.. also.. why the heck is my reply trying to set the subject to #bd3yzvq)
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org ill check this out.. also.. why the heck is my reply trying to set the subject to #bd3yzvq)
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org WTH.. i cant reply to this?
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org WTH.. i cant reply to this?
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org interesting⦠ill look into the parsing on that one
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org interesting⦠ill look into the parsing on that one
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org interesting⦠ill look into the parsing on that one
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org interesting⦠ill look into the parsing on that one
@prologic@twtxt.net Alright, thereās some erroneous markdown parsing going on, I reckon. In my original twt I have a code block surrounded by three backticks. The code block itself contains a single backtick. However, at least for rendering, yarnd shows three backticks instead (not sure if my markdown is invalid, though):
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org @mckinley@twtxt.net @prologic@twtxt.net very cool!
Oh wow! š³ Looks like Mastodon are planning to add support for Twtxt in Add support for Twtxt protocol š
@justamoment@twtxt.net thank you, his name is Nanook, 9 months old now š , we really enjoy having him as a family member!
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org we have a lot of them around here. And the ocean as well :)
@darch@neotxt.dk @prologic@twtxt.net thanks for looking into this, and sorry for not getting back to you on it sooner (busy week)..
@mckinley@twtxt.net Thank you! I didnāt even know about signing and encrypting XML documents. Right, RSS is a little bit messy.
Unfortunately, the autodiscovery document in one of your linked resources does not exist anymore. What annoys me in Atom is the distinction between <id> and <link>. I always want my URL also to be my ID, so I have to duplicate that ā unnecessarily in my opinion.
Also, never found a good explanation why I should add <link rel="self" ⦠/> to my feeds. I just do, but I donāt understand why. The W3C Feed Validation Service says:
[ā¦] This value is important in a number of subscription scenarios where often times the feed aggregator only has access to the content of the feed and not the location from which the feed was fetched.
This just sounds like a very questionable bandaid to bad software architecture. Why would the feed parser need access to the feed URL at this stage? And if so, why not just pass down the input source? Just doesnāt make sense to me.
Also, I just noticed that I reference the http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/ namespace, but donāt use it in most of my feeds. Gotta fix that. Must have copied that from my yfav feed without paying attention what Iām doing.
Your article made me reread the Atom spec and I found out, that I can omit the <author> in the <entry> when I specify a global <author> at <feed> level. Awesome! Will do that as well and thus reduce the feed size.
Atom vs. RSS: https://mckinley.cc/blog/20221109.html
cc @movq@www.uninformativ.de @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org @nmke-de@yarn.zn80.net
It only took me 5 days :)
@prologic@twtxt.net
Just something to hide the ip when you ping like cloudflare does but not cloudflare. if there even is something like that
@movq@www.uninformativ.de
I have a cheap basic just alarm clock and nothing else. It tells the time and gives an alarm nothing else and it works 100% of the time.
@prologic@twtxt.net
If there was something that could hide the ip from pings and searches like cloudflare but without cloudlfare that would be great.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org very nice!
@prologic@twtxt.net something similar was done on diaspora some time back. A user posted a lot of things that the community did not want, so all pod admins ran a script to get rid of the user/posts.
**R to @mind_booster: If you donāt use or want to use twtxt, and still want to follow my twtxtās, you can use your usual RSS/Atom client, as there is an Atom feed for it, here:
https://twtxt.net/user/marado/atom.xml**
If you donāt use or want to use twtxt, and still want to follow my twtxtās, you can use your usual RSS/Atom client, as there is an Atom feed for it, here:
**Iām not sure Iām too interested into participating in twitterās exodus by getting a mastodon account - instead, Iāve decided that this is the right moment to stop procrastinating and finally do something about my twtxt presence.
If you are a twtxt userā¦
https://twtxt.net/conv/e2ddupa**
Iām not sure Iām too interested into participating in twitterās exodus by getting a mastodon account - instead, Iāve decided that this is the right moment to stop procrastinating and finally do something about my twtxt prese ⦠ā Read more
@tkanos@twtxt.net user in question had posted information about someones employment in what appeared to be a threat to contact their boss. Maybe it was in jest.. but we felt it was a form of doxing that we do not wish to see within our community. Yarn.Social is first and foremost a town square of ideas and should be viewed as a safe place for all.
@tkanos@twtxt.net user in question had posted information about someones employment in what appeared to be a threat to contact their boss. Maybe it was in jest.. but we felt it was a form of doxing that we do not wish to see within our community. Yarn.Social is first and foremost a town square of ideas and should be viewed as a safe place for all.
@prologic@twtxt.net that is serious matter . Can you provide more inputs ? Is it part of the doxing part ?
@jlj@twt.nfld.uk @xuu@txt.sour.is hello! @prologic@twtxt.net and I were chatting about the question of globally deleting twts from the yarn.social network. @prologic@twtxt.net noted that he could build the tools and endpoints to delete twts, but some amount of cooperation from pod operators would be necessary to make it all work together. He asked me to spawn a discussion of the subject here, so here we are!
I donāt have enough technical knowledge of yarn.social to say with any credibility how it all should work, but I can say that I think it ought to be possible and itād be good to do for those rare times when itās needed.
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thanks
I am back on twtxt. Switched to endevour os from fedora nd setup Jenny again. Now I just have to setup autopublishing and it will be all setup.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org correct, I do not know German. :) only a few words.
@carsten@yarn.zn80.net I moved to my own instance so new url š
@tkanos@twtxt.net thanks for that nitter tip! Never seen that before. I now think setting that up will be my next project.
@mckinley@twtxt.net any points if it was written in D?
@mckinley@twtxt.net any points if it was written in D?
@prologic@twtxt.net Itās called ācgodā and it isnāt written in C or Go? I want my money backā¦
I also like Gopher more than Gemini. The problem Gemini is trying to solve is better solved by just writing static HTML 4.01 pages.
@abucci@anthony.buc.ci :) I agree. Took it while walking the dog today.
@prologic@twtxt.net @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org - Thanks to both of you! I saw now that the image was super grainy.
@prologic@twtxt.net thank you, it was really nice. The dog wanted to get up at 8 this morning, so I put him in the car and went for a long walk so that the rest of the house could sleep in. I came back last night after 4 day work trip, so it was nice to get up today and just head out for a walk.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org, fixed. š
Last-Modified header for your feed, so the official twtxt client complains not to cache it. I just fixed that, so that tt shows your feed (of course no progress has been made in the meantime). And the Date header of your server seems to be quite funny, too. ;-)
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org, hey, thank you! :-) Yeah, I am abusing the headers on ferengi.one, sorry about that. Will change it. You know, because Lyse.
yarns will get reused directly into yarnd, except that I'll use the bluge indexer instead.
@prologic@twtxt.net, search for āquarkā and you will get quack, quart, quirk, and all possible iterations. Not too helpful.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de, well, yes, that has always been the case. Not just on jenny, but on Yarn. I canāt follow everything, and everyone. To see whether is a reply, a simple h on mutt shows the headers, and there you have it. That is not too convoluted, is it? I mean, if you really want to knowābut why?āit is a simple key press. If I donāt see a context on something as obvious as the example you used, it is simply a reply to someone I donāt follow, and pretty much ignore. End of story. š
Welcome back, @quark@ferengi.one! Your web server doesnāt send back a Last-Modified header for your feed, so the official twtxt client complains not to cache it. I just fixed that, so that tt shows your feed (of course no progress has been made in the meantime). And the Date header of your server seems to be quite funny, too. ;-)
@prologic@twtxt.net, business is slow (I also just got off that hyoo-mƤn illness that is going around named COVID), so that leaves me some free time on my entrepreneurial hands. š I have always lurked every couple of weeks or so. I see yarn has regressed on the UI! š¬š©
@quark@ferengi.one Hey š Nice to see you around again š¤
@movq@www.uninformativ.de, any plans still to clean up the hash from the twtxtās body? Maybe a Festivus gift? You know, āfor the rest of usā. :-D
š£ NEW: Announcing the new and improved Yarns search engine and crawler! search.twtxt.net ā Example search for āHello Worldā Enjoy! š¤ ā @darch@neotxt.dk When you have this, this is what we need to work on in terms of improving the UI/UX. As a first step you should probably try to apply the same SimpleCSS to this codebase and go from there. ā In the end (didnāt happen yet, time/effort) most of the code here in yarns will get reused directly into yarnd, except that Iāll use the bluge indexer instead.
SMTP_PORT to be set (used to default toi 25) ooops š
@prologic@twtxt.net Liberaās insistence on giving them an e-mail and my real IP address makes me really not want to give them either one. Otherwise, Iād probably talk in IRC regularly.
@abucci@anthony.buc.ci Do you happen to use Signal btw? š¤ If you do, it would be great if you could join the Yarn.social Signal Group (_at least until we have Group support and better apps for Salty.im š )
I think Email has been broken on my Pod since some time now since @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org made this commit the default behaviour of the flags/env had changed requiring SMTP_PORT to be set (used to default toi 25) ooops š
@eaplmx@twtxt.net CSS Battle has a passwordless login, I donāt know the implementation but it basically send you and email where you click a link and youāre in.
@darch@neotxt.dk Yes I am, i have not updated in a while! Thank you for pointing that out, Iāll definitely upgrade over the weekend.
@xuu@txt.sour.is proof of stake = people with money get more money. It accelerates the wealth inequality problems that are already plaguing us. Crypto has even worse wealth inequality than fiat currency systems, which is 100% predictable.
@brasshopper@twtxt.net bitcoin 𤮠thatās a hard no from me
Got an acknowledgement of our Salty.im funding proposal to NLnet this evening. I look forward to the outcome š¤ #Salty.im
@prologic@twtxt.net thank you :) always nice to share a piece of nature in a photo. I love to spend time outside. my brain goes silent, and I can take in the views and listen to the sounds around me, I never get tired of it. and since its autumn- it changes the landscape every day.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Thank you very much!
@justamoment@twtxt.net its a river. and weāre walking in a log flume along it. got there early, so not many people, but when I got back the parking lot was starting to get packed. walked about 9km.
@movq@uninformativ.de Will do :)
@prologic@twtxt.net what Content-Security-Policy should I have on my web server for salty? the frontend aināt reacting well to my global config lol
evalerror: refused to create a webassembly object because āunsafe-evalā is not an allowed source of script in the following content security policy directive: ādefault-src āselfāā.
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@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Thank you :) always nice to have this view when I go to the office, stand there, vape a bit, enjoy the view and silence before heading in and code all day. :)
@prologic@twtxt.net this morning was really nice :) love this time of year.
@carsten@yarn.zn80.net I have the same problem, at work I work with cĆ·Ć·, c#, java, python and qt. I want to learn more rust, but its a pain to get into.
@eaplmx@twtxt.net thank you for posting his, need to check it out, have not seen this before.
@prologic@twtxt.net No, because we develop the best tech for it, with the strictest rules. we also adapt to new stuff, so I feel Im helping every day with making things better and better. But honestly it has crossed my mind at times. But Im here being part of innovation and new technologies, doing my part. :)
@movq@www.uninformativ.de test towers for rig equipment on the dock at our office :) the company I work for makes oilrig equipment. I work with simulator development for oilrigs etc.
@akoizumi@social.kyoko-project.wer.ee What I donāt like is that openbsd is secure and then that means some things are different from like debian. Sometimes the security maens some change or whatever has to be done when on debian nothing additional has to be done.
@akoizumi@social.kyoko-project.wer.ee I donāt really like the way openbsd does things and use Debian on all my servers. But on the desktop side I like it but donāt use it
@prologic@twtxt.net Yeah its never going to change but its an option to use UTC
@prologic@twtxt.net That is confusing and no one will understand how to use it. But I did not even know UTC means Coordinated Universal Time. We need to make a revolution to get rid of timezones on the internet and just use UTC
@prologic@twtxt.net Though no one ues it though
@mckinley@twtxt.net We need to make something like computer time or something like that so people using a computer can say like lets have a chat thursday at 7:00 and no timezone things.
@ocdtrekkie@twtxt.net That is cool that there is no tpic. Its not like people on these open platforms have to use linux or some free and open os. Anyone can use whatever they want to. Yarn is just a web ui for twtxt and the os does not matter. I canāt say on for long time at midnight and I left before you started.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah its a mystery why that would happen
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah in the US the clocks did not change yet. It switches in Novemeber.
@ocdtrekkie@twtxt.net I could not join because the chat was at 12:30 or 1:00 am for me. Well if I do end up joining sometime I donāt use windows and have not used windows in months. Donāt have anything to say about windows 11 because I never used it and have not used windows in a few months or more.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Did you time travel into the future to post those? Anyway that is weird and if the system clock is fine then the posts should more be in the future.
@jason@jasonsanta.xyz / @movq@www.uninformativ.de Help me debug something I just observed here⦠@jason@jasonsanta.xyz posted a Twt (https://twtxt.net/twt/4cgtisa) with raw line of (from his feed):
2022-09-03T03:40:19Z (#ohihfkq) @<maya https://maya.land/assets/twtxt.txt> you got starlink?
Basically replying to āsomethingā that hashed to #ohihfkq
However #ohihfkq appears nowhere that I can find. I know this can sometimes happen due to edits, or deletes, so just curious to see what happened here. Also @jason@jasonsanta.xyz, @maya@maya.land as far as many of us that have been using Twtxt/Yarn over the years have come to understand that she is basically a 1-way poster, posts to Mastodon and mirrors her posts to a Twtxt feed, but never responds to anyone or anything š Just FYI š¤
@ocdtrekkie@twtxt.net If your doing something like a chat with people from twtxt and yarn I would join some time if I can whenver you do it next.
@maya@maya.land you got starlink?