**I’m not sure I’m too interested into participating in twitter’s exodus by getting a mastodon account - instead, I’ve decided that this is the right moment to stop procrastinating and finally do something about my twtxt presence.

If you are a twtxt user…
https://twtxt.net/conv/e2ddupa**
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@tkanos@twtxt.net user in question had posted information about someones employment in what appeared to be a threat to contact their boss. Maybe it was in jest.. but we felt it was a form of doxing that we do not wish to see within our community. Yarn.Social is first and foremost a town square of ideas and should be viewed as a safe place for all.

@tkanos@twtxt.net user in question had posted information about someones employment in what appeared to be a threat to contact their boss. Maybe it was in jest.. but we felt it was a form of doxing that we do not wish to see within our community. Yarn.Social is first and foremost a town square of ideas and should be viewed as a safe place for all.

@prologic@twtxt.net that is serious matter . Can you provide more inputs ? Is it part of the doxing part ?

@jlj@twt.nfld.uk @xuu@txt.sour.is hello! @prologic@twtxt.net and I were chatting about the question of globally deleting twts from the yarn.social network. @prologic@twtxt.net noted that he could build the tools and endpoints to delete twts, but some amount of cooperation from pod operators would be necessary to make it all work together. He asked me to spawn a discussion of the subject here, so here we are!

I don’t have enough technical knowledge of yarn.social to say with any credibility how it all should work, but I can say that I think it ought to be possible and it’d be good to do for those rare times when it’s needed.

@prologic@twtxt.net
thanks

I am back on twtxt. Switched to endevour os from fedora nd setup Jenny again. Now I just have to setup autopublishing and it will be all setup.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org correct, I do not know German. :) only a few words.

@carsten@yarn.zn80.net I moved to my own instance so new url 😀

@tkanos@twtxt.net thanks for that nitter tip! Never seen that before. I now think setting that up will be my next project.

@mckinley@twtxt.net any points if it was written in D?

@mckinley@twtxt.net any points if it was written in D?

@prologic@twtxt.net It’s called “cgod” and it isn’t written in C or Go? I want my money back…

I also like Gopher more than Gemini. The problem Gemini is trying to solve is better solved by just writing static HTML 4.01 pages.

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci :) I agree. Took it while walking the dog today.

@prologic@twtxt.net @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org - Thanks to both of you! I saw now that the image was super grainy.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org thank you 😀

@prologic@twtxt.net thank you, it was really nice. The dog wanted to get up at 8 this morning, so I put him in the car and went for a long walk so that the rest of the house could sleep in. I came back last night after 4 day work trip, so it was nice to get up today and just head out for a walk.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org, fixed. 🙈

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org, hey, thank you! :-) Yeah, I am abusing the headers on ferengi.one, sorry about that. Will change it. You know, because Lyse.

@prologic@twtxt.net, search for “quark” and you will get quack, quart, quirk, and all possible iterations. Not too helpful.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de, well, yes, that has always been the case. Not just on jenny, but on Yarn. I can’t follow everything, and everyone. To see whether is a reply, a simple h on mutt shows the headers, and there you have it. That is not too convoluted, is it? I mean, if you really want to know–but why?–it is a simple key press. If I don’t see a context on something as obvious as the example you used, it is simply a reply to someone I don’t follow, and pretty much ignore. End of story. 😂

Welcome back, @quark@ferengi.one! Your web server doesn’t send back a Last-Modified header for your feed, so the official twtxt client complains not to cache it. I just fixed that, so that tt shows your feed (of course no progress has been made in the meantime). And the Date header of your server seems to be quite funny, too. ;-)

@prologic@twtxt.net, business is slow (I also just got off that hyoo-män illness that is going around named COVID), so that leaves me some free time on my entrepreneurial hands. 😂 I have always lurked every couple of weeks or so. I see yarn has regressed on the UI! 😬😩

@quark@ferengi.one Hey 👋 Nice to see you around again 🤗

@movq@www.uninformativ.de, any plans still to clean up the hash from the twtxt’s body? Maybe a Festivus gift? You know, “for the rest of us”. :-D

📣 NEW: Announcing the new and improved Yarns search engine and crawler! search.twtxt.net – Example search for “Hello World” Enjoy! 🤗 – @darch@neotxt.dk When you have this, this is what we need to work on in terms of improving the UI/UX. As a first step you should probably try to apply the same SimpleCSS to this codebase and go from there. – In the end (didn’t happen yet, time/effort) most of the code here in yarns will get reused directly into yarnd, except that I’ll use the bluge indexer instead.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org
LOL.

@prologic@twtxt.net Libera’s insistence on giving them an e-mail and my real IP address makes me really not want to give them either one. Otherwise, I’d probably talk in IRC regularly.

@abucci@anthony.buc.ci Do you happen to use Signal btw? 🤔 If you do, it would be great if you could join the Yarn.social Signal Group (_at least until we have Group support and better apps for Salty.im 😅)

I think Email has been broken on my Pod since some time now since @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org made this commit the default behaviour of the flags/env had changed requiring SMTP_PORT to be set (used to default toi 25) ooops 😅

@eaplmx@twtxt.net CSS Battle has a passwordless login, I don’t know the implementation but it basically send you and email where you click a link and you’re in.

@darch@neotxt.dk Yes I am, i have not updated in a while! Thank you for pointing that out, I’ll definitely upgrade over the weekend.

@xuu@txt.sour.is proof of stake = people with money get more money. It accelerates the wealth inequality problems that are already plaguing us. Crypto has even worse wealth inequality than fiat currency systems, which is 100% predictable.

@brasshopper@twtxt.net bitcoin 🤮 that’s a hard no from me

Got an acknowledgement of our Salty.im funding proposal to NLnet this evening. I look forward to the outcome 🤞 #Salty.im

@prologic@twtxt.net thank you :) always nice to share a piece of nature in a photo. I love to spend time outside. my brain goes silent, and I can take in the views and listen to the sounds around me, I never get tired of it. and since its autumn- it changes the landscape every day.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Thank you very much!

@justamoment@twtxt.net its a river. and we’re walking in a log flume along it. got there early, so not many people, but when I got back the parking lot was starting to get packed. walked about 9km.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org wow!

@movq@uninformativ.de Will do :)

@prologic@twtxt.net what Content-Security-Policy should I have on my web server for salty? the frontend ain’t reacting well to my global config lol

evalerror: refused to create a webassembly object because ‘unsafe-eval’ is not an allowed source of script in the following content security policy directive: “default-src ‘self’”.
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@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Thank you :) always nice to have this view when I go to the office, stand there, vape a bit, enjoy the view and silence before heading in and code all day. :)

@prologic@twtxt.net this morning was really nice :) love this time of year.

@carsten@yarn.zn80.net I have the same problem, at work I work with c÷÷, c#, java, python and qt. I want to learn more rust, but its a pain to get into.

@eaplmx@twtxt.net thank you for posting his, need to check it out, have not seen this before.

@prologic@twtxt.net No, because we develop the best tech for it, with the strictest rules. we also adapt to new stuff, so I feel Im helping every day with making things better and better. But honestly it has crossed my mind at times. But Im here being part of innovation and new technologies, doing my part. :)

@movq@www.uninformativ.de test towers for rig equipment on the dock at our office :) the company I work for makes oilrig equipment. I work with simulator development for oilrigs etc.

@akoizumi@social.kyoko-project.wer.ee What I don’t like is that openbsd is secure and then that means some things are different from like debian. Sometimes the security maens some change or whatever has to be done when on debian nothing additional has to be done.

@akoizumi@social.kyoko-project.wer.ee I don’t really like the way openbsd does things and use Debian on all my servers. But on the desktop side I like it but don’t use it

@prologic@twtxt.net Yeah its never going to change but its an option to use UTC

@prologic@twtxt.net That is confusing and no one will understand how to use it. But I did not even know UTC means Coordinated Universal Time. We need to make a revolution to get rid of timezones on the internet and just use UTC

@prologic@twtxt.net Though no one ues it though

@mckinley@twtxt.net We need to make something like computer time or something like that so people using a computer can say like lets have a chat thursday at 7:00 and no timezone things.

@ocdtrekkie@twtxt.net That is cool that there is no tpic. Its not like people on these open platforms have to use linux or some free and open os. Anyone can use whatever they want to. Yarn is just a web ui for twtxt and the os does not matter. I can’t say on for long time at midnight and I left before you started.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah its a mystery why that would happen

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah in the US the clocks did not change yet. It switches in Novemeber.

@ocdtrekkie@twtxt.net I could not join because the chat was at 12:30 or 1:00 am for me. Well if I do end up joining sometime I don’t use windows and have not used windows in months. Don’t have anything to say about windows 11 because I never used it and have not used windows in a few months or more.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Did you time travel into the future to post those? Anyway that is weird and if the system clock is fine then the posts should more be in the future.

@jason@jasonsanta.xyz / @movq@www.uninformativ.de Help me debug something I just observed here… @jason@jasonsanta.xyz posted a Twt (https://twtxt.net/twt/4cgtisa) with raw line of (from his feed):

2022-09-03T03:40:19Z	(#ohihfkq) @<maya https://maya.land/assets/twtxt.txt> you got starlink?

Basically replying to “something” that hashed to #ohihfkq

However #ohihfkq appears nowhere that I can find. I know this can sometimes happen due to edits, or deletes, so just curious to see what happened here. Also @jason@jasonsanta.xyz, @maya@maya.land as far as many of us that have been using Twtxt/Yarn over the years have come to understand that she is basically a 1-way poster, posts to Mastodon and mirrors her posts to a Twtxt feed, but never responds to anyone or anything 😅 Just FYI 🤗

@ocdtrekkie@twtxt.net If your doing something like a chat with people from twtxt and yarn I would join some time if I can whenver you do it next.

@maya@maya.land you got starlink?

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Responding could be harmful

@prologic@twtxt.net That looks nice. So that if you link the post in another app it will show the message

@prologic@twtxt.net I guess as long as jenny just links to the post.

@prologic@twtxt.net I think those are fine because its just sharing someone elses post to people who follow you. Those people who follow you might not follow the orginal person and in return might never see that post unless its retoos/retweets. The thing that is harmful is likes.

@prologic@twtxt.net Nice. Now I know about forking replies.

@prologic@twtxt.net Its a way to make another conversation in a thread of posts?

@prologic@twtxt.net I think now I know what forked threads are and figured out how to use them but i don’t really know

@prologic@twtxt.net I don’t think I have used forked threads before

@prologic@twtxt.net Those sounds really cool.
Is something like “reyarn” a thing or not a thing?

@prologic@twtxt.net Yeah I never used it before

@prologic@twtxt.net In jenny there is the option to reply to forked threads

@prologic@twtxt.net That is cool. The name is cool. Like saying “yarn ballers” but that sounds weird and cool at the same time

@prologic@twtxt.net I guess anything that is open source and is not resctricted can be forked. I would assume jenny is the same but I can wait will movq replies.

@prologic@twtxt.net nope I don’t know why its yarn

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I never seen anyone mention wrong

@movq@www.uninformativ.de yeah, in a row. but yes, I like it :) got a nice terrace and a bit of garden too. :)

@prologic@twtxt.net Yeah I don’t know how I am going to know if someone wants to talk with me but I guess for now twtxt works.

@prologic@twtxt.net Yeah I am not one of these people who just have a twtxt file and end up posting a few things but not interacting with anyone. I do want to interact with the people of twtxt and yarn users. And not just twtxt users but I do care somewhat about the yarn users because really yarn is twtxt but with additions to make the experience better and a webui and the such like multi users. On top of that yarn and the twtxt clients add things like threads that are even helpful for twtxt users.

@prologic@twtxt.net I joined so its better with me lol

@prologic@twtxt.net I don’t know how to code in go or anything really. Not even really know how to do html and css only basic things.

@prologic@twtxt.net Yeah this is hosted at codeberg pages. Yeah the same issue would happen with github pages.

@prologic@twtxt.net I don’t know any other way to host my file at my domain unless I make a sub domain. I am going to ask codeberg if they offer access of logs.

@prologic@twtxt.net Your the one who wrote the page and did not even realise it was there. lol how nice (not a bad thing just funny)

@prologic@twtxt.net Yeah I do think Jenny adds most of the extensions.

@prologic@twtxt.net First I would have to be able to get to my logs and I don’t think i can

@akoizumi@social.kyoko-project.wer.ee We were talking about having links on the yarn.social page for some guide on how to setup jenny + mutt

@movq@uninformativ.de I did not mention you and instead of replying I made a new post oops.

The thing is I don’t know how to search the web logs on Codeberg or even if they are public. That is the issue with just regular text files. The thing with having the follower list in the twtxt file is that then it knows to track friends of friends like with yarn.
If not having www is an issue when I will add it in. Good to know its something I have to change

@movq@uninformativ.de Do you know how I would find people that reply to my posts or replies or even mention my users? Prologic tried to contact me and unless I found him on the yarn pod then I would not know he exists and wants to talk to me. The user agents would work but I don’t know if I can view my web server logs from codeberg pages and I don’t know how to monitor my logs for mentions. What about the way yarn does it by added people you follow to your twtxt file and having friends of friends like yarn does it be a thing for jenny. Just an idea

@prologic@twtxt.net That is why yarn is better then something like activity pub. Everything over on activity pub tries to work with Mastodon not because its better but because its the most popular. Twtxt clients on the other hand tries to work with the yarn additions because most of the additions improve things even for twtxt users.

@prologic@twtxt.net There is also a link to the blog post on the yarn.social site about how to setup jenny with mutt.

@prologic@twtxt.net I have added that to my twtxt file. Even if I can’t see the metadata the people from yarn can. Not a big deal to add the metadata and it helps yarn users

@prologic@twtxt.net I never tried out any of the other clients except jenny with mutt. The best thing about yarn vs something like Mastodon is that its more promoted of the specification of twtxt files instead of server part. Twtxt can be hosted on some free static site host or some git server even so its really low resouces. Just a basic text file. As far as I know yarn is mostly just a web ui around twtxt and an extnetion to the specification to add some more usability and modern things. Anyone can join decentrilized network by having a twtxt file somewhere. If you want to support the specification of twtxt then that is really something most projects don’t do and they promote the server software mostly.

@prologic@twtxt.net Yeah I saw my profile picture on the yarn pod. Its nice that there is also mobile apps for yarn.

@movq@uninformativ.de There might not even be any benefit to moving that to yarn.social. Besides the yarn site should promote using yarn not twtxt even though there is a little bit of information on the site.

@prologic@twtxt.net I don’t think Jenny does much of anything with the avatar and description but I do know yarn does and its not a bad thing to include the metadata for those users.

@prologic@twtxt.net Yeah I don’t even know how to use them once I added myself to the registries. The jarn search engine is similar to the registries thing but its easier to search and find things from. Also I assume its easier to use it in the yarn pods and whatever elese to get new posts. I would always like to see yarn work with regular twtxt because there is advantges to plain twtxt.

@prologic@twtxt.net I do think the post about how to setup jenny + mutt over on the uninformativ.de blog is still a great post. I used that post to see the steps to set it up and it works fine. Though I can write some blog post with some more documentation for things like auto publishing. The big issue with plain twtxt is that I would have not seen your post unless I looked on twtxt.net when I was looking at yarn a little bit more. Twtxt does overcome the issue by introducing the registry but I can’t figure out any way to use them for Jenny and almost no one uses them in the first place. So I can’t see anyones replies or mentions unless I am following them. Yarn does overcome the issue by friends of friends as you would know as the creator of yarn.

@prologic@twtxt.net Yeah I can try and do that for yarn users.