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@prologic@twtxt.net
Yeah, it is kind of rubbish. 😬

@movq@www.uninformativ.de
Aha! Cool! Not just deleting, but proceeding as if the twt is going to be send. If I :q! on vi it will add an empty line. If, instead, I go :x like I normally do, it works as you said—and as I wanted it. Thanks!

@movq@www.uninformativ.de OK, I am on request/question asking mode today. 😋 How do you cancel a twt, or a reply to a twt? Say I hit my reply, and then I change my mind? Right now, even exiting vi is creating an empty line on my twtxt.txt. Is there an obvious way to cancel a twt, reply, or fork that I am missing?

@movq@www.uninformativ.de

If Subject contains the full twt, then you can skim over conversations just by reading those lines in mutt’s index pager

Yes, I do the same, true.

So I decided: Okay, let’s have mutt do it.

And Mutt does it well. I agree it was/is a good idea.

The subject lines are already “compressed”

I noticed, yes.

I am not sure why I asked to begin with; in retrospect, in was a silly request. Perhaps the OCD in me got triggered while viewing rich headers, on a specific twt, when I saw the huge subject line that is, otherwise, always hidden.

Anyway, don’t mind me, move along. 😂

@movq@www.uninformativ.de
I find sleeping while storming the best sleep, and we have hurricanes passing by, or near by, almost every year.

@prologic@twtxt.net
It is still too early, and too few of us. Give it some time, and your wife might revise her statement. 😂

@prologic@twtxt.net
Sounds like a good plan. It is, of course, up to the Master Crafter. 😋

@prologic@twtxt.net
Jenny populates Mutt’s subject with the entire twt. That makes for very, very long subject lines.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de would it be possible to trim the subject to, say, 100 or 140 characters? Just the subject.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org
Indeed, it is a fairly common “disease”. 🤣

@darch@twtxt.net
I prefer darch’s one.

@stackeffect@twtxt.stackeffect.de

now Apache also announces content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Well, that fixed things. 🥳

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org
Bottomline, twtxt is a poor’s man email system. 🤣

@movq@www.uninformativ.de
No worries, I understood you perfectly. My reply was merely a commentary, because some here—specially the youth, and I have a 20 years old son—think that the vaccine makes the 100% impervious, and thus behave pretty stupidly.

I am the one in charge of bringing food, and helping the elderly in the family, so I take super extra precautions… for their sake.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de
I still worry, perhaps a little less. But I still take precautions. For me, and for others. I mean, you might have a bullet proof vest, but even so, would you actively seek to get shot?

@eldersnake@yarn.andrewjvpowell.com
Google or (insert your favourite search engine here) have never let me down. Also, Youtube has repair guides, and HOWTOs for just about anything, and everything.

@stigatle@twtxt.net
I really do not understand anyone not willing to get vaccinated. It is just plain stupid.

@stackeffect@twtxt.stackeffect.de
I am seeing this characters on your twts: )?â\200¨â\200¨. Which client are you using?

@movq@www.uninformativ.de
With those two (Message-ID, and In-Reply-To) the hashing could become superfluous, and no longer needed. I would vote for that!

@movq@www.uninformativ.de

and the little cricket story stays there forever.

🤣🤣🤣

@movq@www.uninformativ.de
I replied to the one he originally sent (and later edited, so it was deleted). That’s probably what happened.

@stigatle@twtxt.net
A twtxt client would be nice! Or a very simple cgi script to print twts to web nicely—not a second Yarn, just something to show twts in a pretty form on the web.

@adi@f.adi.onl
Just like your highschool girlfriend in Afghanistan “doesn’t need saving”, right? I think it is a language issue you are having, as English isn’t your mother tongue.

QAnon followers are cultist nuts. Some of them wanting out are finding that it is a hard thing to do (did you read the article?). Saying that “they don’t need to escape” is a silly thing to say, at the very least. To me, it just doesn’t make sense.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de
Fair enough, I will modify my cron job to match. When I come across edited twts, I just delete both knowing jenny will fetch the right one next iteration. I like keeping things tidy. 😊

@mckinley@twtxt.net
I really would like to know the logic behind that reasoning.

@adi@f.adi.onl
Are those the kind of things people usually talk to each other when they meet on Tinder? Asking for a friend. 🤣

@movq@www.uninformativ.de what is your cron job repeat time for jenny? Currently I have mine to every minute, and while it allows me to participate fairly quick on conversations it has some drawbacks: it captures every single edited twt, so I end up with seemingly the same twt, but not quite—as it has minor edits, etc. So, “repeats”. Perhaps setting cron to check every 5 minutes or so is best?

@prologic@twtxt.net
Entering a plain URL on feeds.twtxt.net renders a 500. Like entering ckunte.net gets 500, but http://ckunte.net doesn’t. 🤌🏻

@eldersnake@yarn.andrewjvpowell.com
Seems like you need to make your parser smarter. Go tinker! 😋

@eldersnake@yarn.andrewjvpowell.com
RSS links are archaic. Clients discover them if properly linked, they do not need to be human visible.

@prologic@twtxt.net
You are the most active of us all, so, probably you. 😜

@adi@f.adi.onl
They are new MBPs, with two screen sizes, not new screen sizes 😊. 14” and 16”. Both can be configured with the M1MAX, but having that SoC automatically bumps the RAM to 32GB, making them somewhat pricey.

@stigatle@twtxt.net
Oh wow, that second one! 😍

@stigatle@twtxt.net
It is a lovely view! That’s home office, or work office? I am hoping the second, though I do not know Norway’s days and nights well. I know that Sweden can get pretty dark, or pretty light, for long periods of time.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org
Not anymore 😭. I still have a self-propelled one, and electric, which is very nice. But when you live under an almost constant 32-35℃, with super high humidity, you cease liking working outside pretty quick.

@jlj@twt.nfld.uk
Just as jlj, that is exactly what I meant. Good point, Lyse!

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org
LOL. Some days I feel like Forrest Gump, wanting to mow just for fun. Others is a chore. The other are way more frequent than the some. LOL.

@stigatle@twtxt.net
You can get an Air for $1,000 (or $1,200 with 16GB). I have used it (with 8GB), and that machine flies. I can’t imagine how fast one with an M1MAX will feel.

@jlj@twt.nfld.uk
While at it, fix this one too? You have me at netbros.com, but I am somewhere else. 😆

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@movq@www.uninformativ.de
Wow! For any country such flooding would be devastating, but Germany isn’t used (doesn’t see) to that kind of flooding, correct?

There is still no estimate of when this infrastructure could work again.

Oh dear… 😞

@laz@tt.vltra.plus
I see the dilemma. It doesn’t allow you to pick, and change, ports, right? Whoever built this is not thinking at scale.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de
Meanwhile I only restart my iPhone when an iOS update is available, which normally happens every 4-5 months or so, or more. 😋

@movq@www.uninformativ.de
Oh, OK, then not touching it. I will consider it part of history and, thus, unchangeable. 😊

@eldersnake@yarn.andrewjvpowell.com
I noticed that too, but it precedes the latest build.

@prologic@twtxt.net
There is, at least, one already🇮🇳.

@stigatle@twtxt.net
Note taken. Thank you!

@laz@tt.vltra.plus
How do you handle upgrades like this on your pod? Do you keep a diff of your customisations, or is it all a manual process?

@laz@tt.vltra.plus
Are all minimum requirements met? All pre-install checks performed? Install steps carefully read, and checked, one more time?

@stigatle@twtxt.net
You are making me want to visit Norway! I would have gone long ago if it weren’t because of my partner, she can’t handle the cold. Maybe I just need to leave her behind! 🤣

What would the best time to visit be?

@jlj@twt.nfld.uk
Your avatar is healthy on your pod now. Still doesn’t show well on twtxt.net, but it is just a matter of time now (caching, etc.), it is all good. 🎉

@movq@www.uninformativ.de
Do I need to do a search and replace on my feed to fix old entries? Thanks for quick fix!

I spent a couple of hours today looking for interesting people to follow, and subsequently engage with, on twtxt without much luck. Finding twtxt.txt files is easy. Finding them active, or talking about interesting things is the challenge.

@prologic@twtxt.net
Hmm, that’s pretty low! But I had my coffee long ago, though it is still 19:26 in your past. 😂

@prologic@twtxt.net
Let’s make it four! 😋

@movq@www.uninformativ.de
Sorry! 🙈

@prologic@twtxt.net
Ah, I see! The format (or specification) for the twtxt.txt file hasn’t changed as of late, right?

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org
Yup, it works great! I understand many people will not take my approach, and that’s fine with me. ☺️

I am noticing that Yarn doesn’t treat “outside” (that is, twts coming from a client other than Yarn) twts hashes right. Two examples:

• https://twtxt.net/twt/mwtnrna
  
• https://twtxt.net/twt/fl5dooq
  

There are many more, but those two will give you the gist. Yarn links the hash to the poster’s twtxt.txt, so conversation matching will not work.

Oof! I found a bug on Yarn’s Markdown rendering, @prologic@twtxt.net. See OP.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de, would you know the regex to use within .muttrc to colorise a Markdown code block like the one below?

# This one works for `code`, but that's about it.
(^|[[:space:][:punct:]])\`[^\`]+\`([[:space:][:punct:]]|$)

It work like a bliss, and it is exactly what I wanted. I don’t often see the need to use new lines but having the ability to do so add richness to the whole experience. Thank you very much, again, for listening and implementing this!

This will be the last entry on this conversation (hopefully!):

#!/bin/bash
echo "hello world"

The end!

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Awesome! About to git pull, and check it out. Thanks!

@prologic@twtxt.net You will have to agree that always using reply (like I am doing on this one) loses everything on translation after the third or fourth replies. It simply doesn’t promote engagement. On top of that, all replies show on the timeline as well, without much—to none—context.

@prologic@twtxt.net I know, because fork makes it 100% sure to know who is replying to whom. Just like email’s in-reply-to does (plus the message-id).

@prologic@twtxt.net Make it fill in mentions? Problem solved. 😊

@prologic@twtxt.net What if the reply does what fork does, for any replies to the top post, but not the top post itself? You know, like email does. Other than to reply to the top post (for which I use reply), I don’t use reply but fork, to reply to posts underneath because it is the logical thing to do.

@quark@ferengi.one It will look like this:

https://pasteboard.co/NMCjYaHAohtf.png

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Unless you are stripping stuff on your twts, there is no much to implement. Things will be bold , italics , underlined , and so on, on a client that can render them. Since jenny uses Mutt, I can use my own regex in it to color them as I like. That’s pretty much it.

@quark@ferengi.one How about code? (this is mostly to configure mutt?)

Testing this here now

@prologic@twtxt.net I am thinking on calling in sick to work. 😂 Every time I order an iPhone, I take the day off on delivery day. On Apple events I normally use my lunch and break times all combined, to watch them.

@eldersnake@yarn.andrewjvpowell.com There isn’t an equivalent for those because:

Markdown is not a replacement for HTML, or even close to it. Its syntax is very small, corresponding only to a very small subset of HTML tags.

You can read more of its philosophy at Daring Fireball. There are enhancements to Markdown (CommonMark, for example), that add extra to it.

@prologic@twtxt.net That was ducking fast! 🚅

@prologic@twtxt.net Oh, I see (no pun intended). Have you checked https://tailwindcss.com? Looks amazing!

@movq@www.uninformativ.de This is a sentence. This is one under it (single return). And another (single return).

And a paragraph (double return).

@movq@www.uninformativ.de 🙏🏻🙇🏻‍♂️

@movq@www.uninformativ.de LOL. As someone with OCD, I can relate completely. When I set to do “slight” modifications to a stylesheet, boy… often a start over is best, to eliminate commit spam.

@prologic@twtxt.net Look on the web interface. Goryon needs work, but you mentioned that before.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Goryon parsing is broken. Yarn shows it as I see it on jenny. Exactly the same.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Nice! I am git pulling right after this. 🙈

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yes! 🥳 🎉

@prologic@twtxt.net I knew you were short sided from day one I saw Yarn. On desktop everything is huge, and I assumed it was to cater short-sightedness. Also, you have enabled underlines on buttons on iOS, bold and bigger fonts, etc., so that was also a give away. Sorry if I digress, but, glasses wouldn’t help? I have to wear mine all the time, otherwise I am also near blind myself!

@movq@www.uninformativ.de To clarify, Markdown is just text. 😊 I can do bolding, link things, and if single return multilines ever comes to jenny, I would be able to do bulleted and numbered lists.

The only things—that I know of—that doesn’t work is “> “, but I can use “>”, like so:

D’oh!

So, jenny allows me to write Markdown almost just fine!

@quark@ferengi.one Pinging @movq@www.uninformativ.de, in case it is a bug.

@quark@ferengi.one >This works…

Now, if I use “>” (without the quotes) with a space after it, and then text, the entire line gets omitted.

@adi@f.adi.onl

She is beyond saving. 🤣

@adi@f.adi.onl Oh boy… we don’t want to go down that route. There is plenty to know about the Taliban, not just from the news but from people who lived—and still lives—under their “governance”; all of which is, I am afraid, much more accurate than your highschool girlfriend story telling.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Are they your goats? They look so cute, and clean, almost unreal! Where I live it is an eternal sunshine, it might fool you into believing it is paradise, until you steam, toast, and burn. 🤣

Boy, do I love jenny/latest, and Neomutt! 😊

https://pasteboard.co/CDMQJYvWuYtY.png

Only thing jenny is missing, to be completely happy, @movq@www.uninformativ.de already knows about. 🙈

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I remember that time. I built my own mess, then used someone else’s mess (WordPress). I then switched to Jekyll when Tom released it, then to Hugo, which I use today. I also love static web stuff!

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org That is the way it should be! 😊

@movq@www.uninformativ.de This is my env, on language:

LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8

LANG=en_US.UTF-8

LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8

I had to explicitly set it on the cron job to make jenny work.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yup. Added all the language ones, and bam, working like a charm!

@movq@www.uninformativ.de But it makes sense, right? I spend way too much time trying to figure out who replied to whom. I treat twts replies as emails, pretty much.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I would not mind keeping a diff, if you tell me where to make the changes! I know nothing of Python, and I have spent already a couple of hours trying to make sense. I know it is there, in front of me, if only I knew Python. 😩

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Is there a way to make it take single returns, @movq@www.uninformativ.de, or is that a technical infeasibility?

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I no longer see dups! 🎉 🥳

@quark@ferengi.one And don’t miss its song. You will be in for a treat!