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Twtxt spec enhancement proposal thread đź§µ

Adding attributes to individual twts similar to adding feed attributes in the heading comments.

https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/go-lextwt/pulls/17

The basic use case would be for multilingual feeds where there is a default language and some twts will be written a different language.

As seen in the wild: https://eapl.mx/twtxt.txt

The attributes are formatted as [key=value]

They can show up in the twt anywhere it is not enclosed by another element such as codeblock or part of a markdown link.

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In-reply-to » (#fytbg6a) What about using the blockquote format with > ?

@sorenpeter@darch.dk this makes sense as a quote twt that references a direct URL. If we go back to how it developed on twitter originally it was RT @nick: original text because it contained the original text the twitter algorithm would boost that text into trending.

i like the format (#hash) @<nick url> > "Quoted text"\nThen a comment
as it preserves the human read able. and has the hash for linking to the yarn. The comment part could be optional for just boosting the twt.

The only issue i think i would have would be that that yarn could then become a mess of repeated quotes. Unless the client knows to interpret them as multiple users have reposted/boosted the thread.

The format is also how iphone does reactions to SMS messages with +number liked: original SMS

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In-reply-to » (#fytbg6a) What about using the blockquote format with > ?

@eapl.me@eapl.me this is interesting. Is the square bracket something used in the wild for multilingual twts?

@prologic@twtxt.net what are your thoughts? Should we extend the parser to handle [lang] and [boost] ? Or a generic attribute spec. Single word is a boolean attribute. And one with an = is a string key/value.

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What about using the blockquote format with > ?

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by: @eapl.me@eapl.me

Would it not also make sense to have the repost be a reply to the original post using the (#twthash), and maybe using a tag like #repost so it eaier to filter them out?

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@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I have read the white papers for MLS before. I have put a lot of thought on how to do it with salty/ratchet. Its a very good tech for ensuring multiple devices can be joined to an encrypted chat. But it is bloody complicated to implement.

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Huh. At some point, my twtxt-via-ssh shortcut from my phone stopped working. It does again now! I’ve changed nothing. Yay black boxes! 🤷🏻

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@eapl.me@eapl.me I have many fond memories of Turbo pascal and Turbo C(++). They really did have a great help system. And debug tools! Its rare for language docs to be as approachable. QBasic was great. As was PHP docs when I first came into web.

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Obligatory Twtxt post: I love how I can simply use a terminal window and some very basic tools (echo, scp, ssh) to publish thoughts, as they pop up, onto the Internet in a structured way, that can be found and perhaps even appreciated.

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@prologic@twtxt.net its not.. There are going to be 1000s of copy cat apps built on AI. And they will all die out when the companies that have the AI platforms copy them. It happened all the time with windows and mac os. And iphone.. Like flashlight and sound recorder apps.

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@prologic@twtxt.net the new product was GPTs. A way to create tailored bots for specific use cases. https://openai.com/blog/introducing-gpts (fun fact: I did an internal hackathon where we made something like this for $work onboarding. And I won a prize!)

The competed project is poe https://quorablog.quora.com/Introducing-creator-monetization-for-Poe which is basically the same idea. Make a AI bot tailored to a specific domain of knowledge. And monitize it.

The timing fits very well as openAI announced it just a few weeks ago.

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In-reply-to » So.. Of y'all that had covid. Did you have at the end a night where for no reason your brain amped up to 11 and can't sleep at all? It happened to me last night and my FIL the night before.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I lasted for a long time.. Not sure where or when it was “got”. We had been having a cold go around with the kiddos for about a week when the wife started getting sicker than normal. Did a test and she was positive. We tested the rest of the fam and got nothing. Till about 2 days later and myself and the others were positive. It largely hasn’t been too bad a little feaver and stuffy noses.

But whatever it was that hit a few days ago was horrible. Like whatever switch in my head that goes to sleep mode was shut off. I would lay down and even though I felt sleepy, I couldn’t actually go to sleep. The anxiety hit soon after and I was just awake with no relief. And it persisted that way for three nights. I got some meds from the clinic that seemed to finally get me to sleep.

Now the morning after I realized for all that time a part of me was missing. I would close my eyes and it would just go dark. No imagination, no pictures, nothing. Normally I can visualize things as I read or think about stuff.. But for the last few days it was just nothing. The waking up to it was quite shocking.

Though its just the first night.. I guess I’ll have to see if it persists. 🤞

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@prologic@twtxt.net I have seen these screen shots. But have not yet seen them in actuality. I use ublockOrigin. Maybe it gets these too unlike adblock.

For android I have revanced.. The only place I get ads is on TV. I haven’t found a replacement there.

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@prologic@twtxt.net I do similar. Though probably much more simple.. I have CGNAT and use wireguard to VMs to punch through for stuff like HTTP/SSH from external.

And for SMTP I have smart hosts on the VMs that will store anf forward to my mailbox if the connection goes down.

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@prologic@twtxt.net I find the L2 mode where you have one interface and multiple hosts to be tricky. Its best if you are trying to make a full mesh style. But then all hosts need to be able to see one another.

I have had more success using point-to-point connections where there are only two ends to each interface. It means you have a ton of interfaces and udp ports. but you can share the host IP across the interfaces. Add to that a simple router proto ala OSPF or RIP and you can navigate around not having a full meshnet.

I have dozens of localnet wireguard connections and many more connections to others that use bgp for route propagation.

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@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org do you need to have an explicit Is function? I believe errors.Is has reflect lite and can do the type infer for you. The Is is only really needed if you have a dynamic type. Or are matching a set of types as a single error maybe? The only required one would be Unwrap if your error contained some other base type so that Is/As can reach them in the stack.

As is perfect for your array type because it asserts the matching type out the wrap stack and populates the type for evaluating its contents.

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@prologic@twtxt.net The hackathon project that I did recently used openai and embedded the response info into the prompt. So basically i would search for the top 3 most relevant search results to feed into the prompt and the AI would summarize to answer their question.

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@prologic@twtxt.net that would work if it was using shamir’s secret sharing .. although i think its typically 3 of 5 so you get 3, one to the company, and one to the “third party”. so you can recover all you want.. but if the company or 3rd wants to they need one of your 3 to recover.

but still .. if they are providing them then whats the point of trusting they don’t have copies.

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@abucci@anthony.buc.ci buuuuut it show when winter!

In the time scale viewed from the planets perspective, the climate has changed many many times.. The issue is whether that change that will inevitability come is hospitable to us meat bags. Or if we are doomed to take part in the next mass extinction event.

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