@prologic@twtxt.net Yes I suppose that is true. There is an article on Tailscale’s site that explains it all quite a bit: https://tailscale.com/blog/how-nat-traversal-works

To me, with CGNAT, it’s a small miracle that a direct connection can be made between peers (as opposed to going through a relay constantly) but it does indeed work. I guess to host it at home you would need to have it WAN accessible, and if you’ve already gone to the trouble of port forwarding etc… well 😅
Not that I could personally do that, but for those with static IPs etc.

@bender@twtxt.net on my hosted VPS, as I’m on Starlink which is CGNAT, I need some sort of external intermediary.

@prologic@twtxt.net Interesting! Had no idea about that, but trust you to know of a self-hosted implementation 😅👌

@bender@twtxt.net haha funny! though i just realized my ISP is the only one with fiber pulled to the property so i would have to get a phone line from them some how. The other ISP in the area is basically a mobile hotspot.

Hey so.. i just got an email from my ISP saying they will terminate my service. Did i break something @abucci@anthony.buc.ci ?

@movq@www.uninformativ.de

(I don’t really trust Android, though, and I suspect that apps can still install background services that are always active. Pure speculation and paranoid on my part, but still.)

Which is fair, but I would say the GrapheneOS devs in particular are also quite paranoid about this stuff and go to great pains to make sure this stuff can be controlled by the user.

@prologic@twtxt.net Yeah that is probably what was happening. I wish that go build could embed the values that go install does.

@prologic@twtxt.net hey testing a rebuild of yarnd

@prologic@twtxt.net Well ain’t that grand? I’ll get it updated.

@prologic@twtxt.net Well ain’t that grand? I’ll get it updated

@Prologic@twtxt.net No, haven’t had the need to. We’re sticking to trusted and true over latest and sleekest in this project. Perhaps next year.

@mckinley@twtxt.net I must admit I was tempted to use EndeavourOS for an install on a HTPC (N97 mini PC) when it arrives to quickly get up and running, but then again I haven’t done a fresh install of Arch in quite a while so it sounds like things have simplified even more since then. Hmm…

@prologic@twtxt.net Very nice 👌

@bender@twtxt.net https://x.com/mortenjust/status/1805190952358650251

@bender@twtxt.net He is running on the latest macbook pro with 128G memory. though the chrome app seems to be sitting at 125MB. i am a bit suspicious about that stat since we dont see all the worker threads and he is currently sitting on 40GB of non cache ram.

@prologic@twtxt.net Perfect 👌

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Golly, you are right 😅

@prologic@twtxt.net phew 😁

@prologic@twtxt.net yep pretty much!

@prologic@twtxt.net hey mate, all working well here so far. The login issue isn’t really an issue as far as actually logging in goes, rather if I get my password wrong it gives the response error code in console, the response of which contains the HTML for the wrong password page if you inspect it, but on the frontend itself nothing actually happens which is the confusion. Just stays on the login page as if it was never submitted. Am I alone in having this issue as well?

@prologic@twtxt.net Yes very very strange! I truly don’t know where to start on that one 🤣 Must be one of those really weird edge cases. Thanks for your help on this, I can at least post normally now.👌

I’ll check logging in etc tomorrow, time for bed lol 😴

@prologic@twtxt.net It’s weird though cos I could reproduce it on any of my browsers on either my laptop or phone 🤔

@prologic@twtxt.net Firefox 126.0.1 is my primary

@prologic@twtxt.net Fix works!

@prologic@twtxt.net Woops my blockquote got mangled but you get the gist haha

@prologic@twtxt.net I was wondering if my reverse proxy could cause something but it’s pretty standard…

server {

    listen 80;
    server_name we.loveprivacy.club;

    location / {
            return 301 https://$host$request_uri;
            <a href="https://txt.sour.is/search?q=%23proxy_pass">#proxy_pass</a> http://127.0.0.1:8000;
    }

}
server {

    listen 443 ssl http2;
    server_name we.loveprivacy.club;

    ssl_certificate /etc/letsencrypt/live/we.loveprivacy.club/fullchain.pem;
    ssl_certificate_key /etc/letsencrypt/live/we.loveprivacy.club/privkey.pem;

    client_max_body_size 8M;

    location / {
            proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1:8000;
    }

}

@prologic@twtxt.net Firefox but it happens on Brave and Chromium on my laptop, or any browser (Brave, Chromium, Vanadium) I try on my Android phone.

@prologic@twtxt.net Sorry, my messages don’t get included in the current convo unless I tag you. Guess something gets lossed in translation with this weird posting issue. ANYWAY, it is rather perplexing. Clearly only an issue on my Pod, but what could the source of it be 🤔

@prologic@twtxt.net Okay lemme see

@prologic@twtxt.net Yeah realised I hit the character limit lol

@prologic@twtxt.net The login issue I cant yet narrow down as to when it happens as sometimes I login fine. But it gives off a 401 forbidden error. Anyway I’ve been focusing on the posting error as I figured it must be related. Registering and logging in as a new user works every time, which is weird.

@bender@we.loveprivacy.club hmm you may be right…

@prologic@twtxt.net Correct… epic fail 🤣 Been a long day and I just wasn’t thinking, nor backing up properly. Oops indeed. My usual errors still exist though.

@prologic@twtxt.net Righteo, so rookie error - I obviously had some untracked, rather important files for starting my pod and I ran a make clean. Why I originally had them in the git directory is anyone’s guess. Anyway it blew away those files including the database so that’s that. So your good self and @bender@twtxt.net etc - apologies but your profiles got nuked as well (as did my own but easily recreated).

Another thing I noticed which was the reason I ran make clean in the first place. I noticed my pod was being built with Go 1.22.4. Could this be a problem @prologic? preflight.sh actually errors out about it…

@prologic@twtxt.net on the the timeline with mentions filter I missing the latest mention that comes up in the mentions page.

Oh.. And you are mentioning my dev instance here 😄

@prologic@twtxt.net how do i enable htmx? i built latest main

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Product activation? Oh.. I never had to deal with that. I always had the CD-R XP Pro version with the enterprise key written in sharpie that my brother got somehow.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Just don’t install windows 11. I believe XP is peak Windows OS anyhow.

@prologic@twtxt.net The old options are still valid, so “Show latest post per feed” should just be added as a 3th.

I think it is a good addition. Similar to how the Fraidycat RSS reader works. Fraidyc.at also support twtxt, but have not seen any updates since 2021…

@prologic@twtxt.net @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org

@Prologic@twtxt.net can you pleas fix this line in your twtxt.txt:
# follow = dbucklin@www.davebucklin.com https://www.davebucklin.com/twtxt.txt?nick=dbucklin

It is cause this weird effect on my timeline, where you are now called dbucklin
http://darch.dk/timeline/?profile=https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/twtxt.txt

@mckinley@twtxt.net I have a custom .tmux.conf that makes it very easy to use the multiplexer, but I agree, Zellij seems pretty robust, and intuitive. I like it! Tried compiling it, as with everything Rust, it failed miserably. Good thing there is a binary release I could download to try!

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Maybe something for you: 7.css - A CSS framework for recreating Windows 7 UI

@adi@twtxt.net I kinda bounced off learning go properly a few years back. This little toy would be a good thing to try again on, now that you mention it. Maybe.

@prologic@twtxt.net Haha, that sh!t is pure (net)art!

@dfaria@twtxt.net the difference is that these other servers does not post several times a day with content that are not informative/interesting to people outside your academic context, which can be perceived as noise.

What @prologic@twtxt.net have done is what I would call curation of the service he offers to the world for free (as in beer). It’s no one right to have their posts syndicated to the frontpage of twtxt.net, it’s simply a gift he gives to the world and he is free (as in speak) to wrap is anyway he sees fit.

@dfaria.eu@dfaria.eu I hope you stay around 🌞

@prologic@twtxt.net and @bender@twtxt.net for a start a single user twtxt/yarn pod could look like this 😉

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I just “published” a #draft on my blog about “How I’ve implemented #webmentions for twtxt” (http://darch.dk/mentions-twtxt), so I wanted to know from you guys if you see yourself doing a similar thing with yarnd @prologic@twtxt.net or others with custom setups?

The wording can be more subtle like “This feed have not seen much activity within the last year” and maybe adding a UI like I did in timeline showing time ago for all feeds

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I agree that it good to clean up the Mastodon re-feeds, but it should also be okay for anyone to spin up a twtxt.txt just for syndicating they stuff from blog or what ever.

The “not receiving replies” could partly be fixed by implementing a working webmentions for twtxt.txt

Its quite nice. I have been half tempted to make a twtxt client with it

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah, normally I just use s browser to open PDF, but we had actually create one and it needed some special Acrobat features. Afterwards I immediately uninstalled it again.

@shreyan@twtxt.net first you must clearly explain what a monad is.

@hecanjog@hecanjog.com You need to include the full URL for the audio file for this to work across servers/pods ;)

yes i know @bender@twtxt.net, it’s on my to-do

yes i know @bender@twtxt.net, it’s on my to-do

@bender@twtxt.net you can over at http://darch.dk/timeline/conv/ba3xbfa or by looking at the raw txt https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt.txt
I can’t help it that twtxt.net only have temporary caching ¯_(ツ)_/¯

@adi@twtxt.net (I would not object to someone wanting to throw FFRDC-class money at P9F, if you’ve got a lead! ☺)

@prologic@twtxt.net because the downside of over-leveraging yourself is you lose your house.. or more.

Thanks for your feedback @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org. For some reason i missed it until now. For now I have implemented endpoint discovery for #webmentions as a metadata field in the twtxt.txt like this:
# webmention = http://darch.dk/timeline/webmention

And now added #filter for replies too:

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@adi@twtxt.net No, thinking much bigger than that at the moment: http://a.9srv.net/b/us-osqi

Added support for #tag clouds and #search to timeline. Based on code from @dfaria.eu@dfaria.eu🙏

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Hi @movq@www.uninformativ.de, is it better now?
I have put in a psudo twthash since I did not archive from a specific date/post, but just what I did not find relevant to keep in my main feed.

@sorenpeter@darch.dk a poem about me giving Odo a free bucket:

A glint in his eye, a sly, Ferengi grin,
Quark crossed the promenade, a curious thing within.
No jeweled trinket, no weapon so grand,
But a simple pail held tight in his hand.

Odo, the Constable, with a brow raised high,
“A bucket, Quark? What trickery do you try?”
The Ferengi huckster, with a salesman’s flair,
“A gift, my friend, a constable’s rare!”

“For those late-night spills, a morphing mishap,
This bucket, dear Odo, will catch every scrap.
And should a suspect turn to goop and flee,
This pail’s the answer, a guarantor, you see!”

Odo’s lips twitched, a hint of a smile,
At Quark’s twisted logic, his mercantile style.
“Perhaps,” he conceded, the bucket held tight,
“A useful addition, in the pursuit of right.”

So Quark made his sale, with a wink and a nod,
A bucket for Odo, a Ferengi oddity, odd.
But on Deep Space Nine, where chaos takes hold,
Even a pail can be worth more than gold.

About the account, thanks, but I already have way too many. :-D

you need to send an email @quark@ferengi.one if you want an account. I know that it might not be very profitable. Maybe Odo can disclose it if I give him a new bucket.

@mckinley@twtxt.net I’m over here now. And yes I can send a PR to repo or your are welcome to add it. Credits also to @eapl.me@eapl.me for making a working yarn compatible parser.

@bender@twtxt.net ha! He goes his “poem”:

A string of letters, a forgotten name,
An email crafted, a message to claim.
We hit send with a click, a hopeful sigh,
But a bounce-back arrives, a tear in our eye.

“Delivery failed,” the message reads cold,
The address it seems, is a story untold.
A ghost in the system, a memory’s trace,
Lost in the void of cyberspace.

:-D

its a notebook tool like evernote. @sorenpeter@darch.dk linked it above: https://joplinapp.org/

It not that easy @xuu@txt.sour.is since I implemented webmentions in a different way that how it have been done in yarnd to work with txt-files. You can find the code in webmention_endpoint.php and new_twt.php at main · sorenpeter/timeline

@sorenpeter@darch.dk

Thanks @prologic@twtxt.net, I also just manage to get my own version of webmentions working. Please have a read at Webmentions vs. Custom Mentions Spec for Twtxt/Yarn - HedgeDoc and User Lookup for Twtxt/Yarn - Webfinger or Decentralized Identifiers (DIDs) - HedgeDoc for how it sorta works

@eapl.me@eapl.me Take a look at http://darch.dk/timeline/conv/i4nt3ma

@movq@www.uninformativ.de For syncing notes between computers and phones I’ve been very happy with Simple Text - w Dropbox sync for some year, but transitioned to Joplin around new year. Both sync via Dropbox and for Joplin there are also more free options. I guess you could even use something like Syncthing

@mckinley@twtxt.net its hosted on the mini at home and ingress is handled through my MTR vm.

@mckinley@twtxt.net for me:

• a wall mount 6U rack which has:
  
  • 1U patch panel
    
  • 1U switch
    
  • 2U UPS
    
  • 1U server, intel atom 4G ram, debian (used to be main. now just has prometheus)
    
• a mini ryzon 16 core 64G ram, fedora (new main)
  
  • multiple docker services hosted.
    
• synology nas with 4 2TB drives
  
• turris omnia WRT router -> fiber uplink
  

network is a mix of wireguard, zerotier.

• wireguard to my external vms hosted in various global regions.
  
  • this allows me ingress since my ISP has me behind CG-NAT
    
• zerotier is more for devices for transparent vpn into my network
  

i use ssh and remote desktop to get in and about. typically via zerotier vpn. I have one of my VMs with ssh on a backup port for break glass to get back into the network if needed.

everything has ipv6 though my ISP does not provide it. I have to tunnel it in from my VMs.

@mckinley@twtxt.net, in your blog, I think a “line-heigh” of 1.5 (if I remember correctly you are setting it on the “body” on CSS) will make it more legible.

Also made a webfinger lookup resolver that works with my own webfinger endpoint as well as yarnd servers:
http://darch.dk/wf-lookup.php

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Did another write up on #webfinger and DIDs for twtxt/yarn that you can read and edit/comment in: User lookup for twtxt/yarn - Webfinger or Decentralized Identifiers (DIDs) - HedgeDoc

I’ve gathers my ideas about mentions for twtxt/yarn here: Webmentions vs. custom mentions spec for twtxt/yarn - HedgeDoc
You are welcome to edit and comment in the doc, so our ideas are not fragment into a bunch of treads

@bender@twtxt.net It is the new “politically correct”. Something that was used to describe acting in a more civilized way with one another. Turned into a scapegoat for the other side to label, demonize, and attack.

@shreyan@twtxt.net What do you mean when you say federation protocol?

• Either use webfinger for identity like mastodon etc. or use ATproto from Bluesky (or both?)

• We can use webmentions or create our own twt-mentions for notifying someones feed (WIP code at: https://github.com/sorenpeter/timeline/tree/webmention/views)

I’m not sure we need much else. I would not even bother with encryption since other platforms does that better, and for me twtxt/yarn/timeline is for making things public

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org

You can’t catch the kill signal. Should this be syscall.SIGTERM instead of os.Kill, xuu? https://git.sour.is/sour-is/go-paste/src/branch/main/main.go#L21

You are totally right.. i think i was going for SIGTERM and SIGQUIT

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org its a hierarchy key value format. I designed it for the network peering tools i use.. I can grant access to different parts of the tree to other users.. kinda like directory permissions. a basic example of the format is:

@namespace
# multi
# line
# comment
root :value

# example space comment
@namespace.name space-tag 

# attribute comments
attribute attr-tag  :value for attribute

# attribute with multiple 
# lines of values
foo :bar
      :bin
      :baz

repeated :value1
repeated :value2

each @ starts the definition of a namespace kinda like [name] in ini format. It can have comments that show up before. then each attribute is key :value and can have their own # comment lines.
Values can be multi line.. and also repeated..

the namespaces and values can also have little meta data tags added to them.

the service can define webhooks/mqtt topics to be notified when the configs are updated. That way it can deploy the changes out when they are updated.

@mckinley@twtxt.net Don’t forget the syntax for arrays of sets [[foo.bars]] [[foo.bars]] [[foo.bars]]

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org i made my own :D

I do prefer toml for the old school ini style with added support for object lists.

my second would be hjson or any other json with comments style.

@johanbove@johanbove.info dear lord! Can you still sleep at night?!

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Haha! yeah sounds about like my HS CS program. A math teacher taught visual basic and pascal. and over on the other end of the school we had “electronics” which was a room next to the auto body class where they had a bunch of random computer parts scavenged from the district decommissioned surplus storage.

The advanced class would piece together training kits for the basic class to put together.

@bender@twtxt.net bug? @prologic@twtxt.net

@quark@ferengi.one pascal was high school for me 10th grade. I remember making an over the top Yahtzee game with text windows and everything. My instructor got mad at me because it was a ton of pages printed out to review.

@xuu@txt.sour.is wow, I can tell I am older than you (I already knew this, but still). It was nothing but Pascal for me.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de before this century. Back when colleges taught C++ instead of Java for CS degrees.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Yeah the func in func threw me off.. The generic type iter.Seq[V] does make things a bit more clear though.

I would love to see a world where ones twtxt feed is defined by webfinger. So @xuu@txt.sour.is => https://text.sour.is/user/xuu/twtxt.txt

Then my identity can exist independent of the feed location. And I can host multiple protocol types for my feed. Ie. http/gopher/Gemini/irc DCC/etc

@movq@www.uninformativ.de NASM is great. I remember playing with it back in my HS days. It has lots of little helps to make assembly more approachable.

@quark@ferengi.one @mckinley@twtxt.net
i think you have to be following the person so it does it correctly.

@mckinley@twtxt.net weird you mentioned my with the anthony.buc.ci account. I am assuming these kind of bugs were never addressed by @prologic@twtxt.net. :-(

@movq@www.uninformativ.de its always fun to look back on old projects. I talked to an old coworker about a codebase i made back in 2010 that still has lots of the same architecture i built into it back then and is still in heavy use.

@eapl.me@eapl.me the 24th of June 2002 was a pivotal year in my life.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de the location is real. A few in the ‘hood mentioned seeing this person directly. They live somewhere on the hillside in the background of the video.