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Dust, decay and a multimillion-dollar bill: The battle to save Melbourne’s forgotten town halls
Once-grand inner-Melbourne town halls have been marooned in history and largely left to rot for almost three decades, but there is hope that new life awaits them. ⌘ Read more

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‘They’re laughing at us’: How a community lost its beloved bowlo
Norths Leagues Club promised to fix the Bangalow Bowlo’s dilapidated clubhouse when they went into partnership. Now it’s using the state of the clubhouse to justify its decision to close the club. ⌘ Read more

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Sally was attacked while working. New laws would make streets safer for guide dogs like her
Sally the seeing eye dog retired after she was attacked. What happened to her inspired a push for harsher penalties for assaults on assistance dogs, which quickly gained momentum. ⌘ Read more

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Border Force uncover 34kg of cocaine in Fremantle bus search
An ABF spokesman said the amount of cocaine, had it reached the Australian community, had an estimated street value up to $11 million, with the potential for 170 000 street-level deals. ⌘ Read more

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WA storm leaves thousands without power across the state
The Department of Fire and Emergency Services has reported that around 50 calls have been made to the State Emergency Service with reports including water ingress, flooding, roof damage, structural damage and fallen trees. ⌘ Read more

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Leaked audio reveals strata giant caught asking contractor for kickbacks
When a strata manager brazenly asked for a kickback to award a contract for work, the contractor was in shock. “I felt like I’d been struck across the face with a fish,” he said. ⌘ Read more

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‘This can’t just keep happening’: The family taking a retail giant to court
Two teens, their uncle and his eight-year-old son allege they were asked to leave a Superdry store and are seeking damages in a “legally significant” case. ⌘ Read more

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More Australians report feeling lonely. This WA program is trialling a new idea to help
If we are serious about improving health outcomes and reducing pressure on our health system in Western Australia, we must start recognising community connection as a form of care. ⌘ Read more

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Oh boy, it was bloody humid this morning. Just around 20°C when we left, but climbing rapidly. The flow of air when walking was okay, but as soon as we stopped, streams of sweat were pouring down on us. Luckily, it was cloudy, but the lack of wind was bad. Now, the sun is out, 29°C will be reached in an hour and I’m glad that the house is still cool. It will be a different story in a few weeks or months. Not looking forward to that at ll.

On the bright side, we saw the first tadpoles of the year and an also first, but sadly dead slow worm that probably some bird dropped on a bench next to the fountain. The fly was stuck to its feast and also cactus. The municipality fixed the railing nicely and we came across a giant patch of great looking fire bugs on the summit.

All in all, a successful stroll through the woods but for the humid heat.

https://lyse.isobeef.org/waldspaziergang-2026-05-30/

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Tello Mobile Plan Review (2026): Low Cost, Reliable Service
With inflation and gas prices rising, I’m trying to save money wherever I can. I tested Tello’s budget cell phone plan, and for me, it turns out prepaid can be just as good. ⌘ Read more

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Millions of Bees Have Thrived Under a New York Cemetery for More Than a Century
A walk in the cemetery led to Cornell researchers discovering an underground colony of bees with an estimated population of 5.5 million—one of the largest ever recorded. ⌘ Read more

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Children’s disability workers to be axed as NDIS changes loom
The Brotherhood of St Laurence is set to axe up to 45 of its early childhood coordinator roles, currently funded under a contract with the National Disability Insurance Scheme, as it transitions to a greater focus on adult disability services. ⌘ Read more

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Is the Ferrari Luce’s Design Really That Bad? 3 Italian Auto Experts Weigh In
The first electric Ferrari is already this year’s most divisive car. We asked three Italian auto industry professionals to explain where the EV’s design makes sense, and where it doesn’t add up. ⌘ Read more

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Millions of Bees Have Thrived Under a New York Cemetery for More Than a Century
A walk in the cemetery led to Cornell researchers discovering an underground colony of bees with an estimated population of 5.5 million—one of the largest ever recorded. ⌘ Read more

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Nike World Cup Uniforms Made of Recycled Textiles Won’t Solve Fashion Waste
The activewear giant has used chemical recycling to make jersey for 16 teams competing in the tournament. But the technique is unlikely to help solve fashion’s waste issue. ⌘ Read more

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↳ In-reply-to » @movq I'm very curious...

@prologic@twtxt.net

it’s “probabilistic” not “deterministic”

Yep, I know. And when I tell that to people and tell them “if we use AI here, we lose the ability to debug this stuff”, then all I get is: “But it’s good enough. We don’t need to debug this. Non-deterministic computing has its use cases.”

But that is just not how I’d like to model/implement our business processes. 🤔 I want something reliable, not “it mostly works”.

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↳ In-reply-to » @movq I'm very curious...

LIke with almost everything “big-tech” has done, it’s not the tech you should not trust, but the companies themselves. For example, accessing and using the models (because let’s face it, they have clusters of much larger and more powerful GPU clusters than we could ever afford to build and own ourselves, at least for now) is fine, but trusting their end-user products/services, not so much.

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↳ In-reply-to » @movq I'm very curious...

It’s one of the reasons in fact I’ve been working on bob so I have a very concrete and strong foundation for how these things work, how they behave and how bad or good they can be. I am on-purpose building bob to be not only a decent coding tool and general task completion tool, but with serious security boundaries, sanitation, auditing and compliance. If I’m going to succeed at building autoonmous agents that can cope with a wider array of varying inputs (mostly natural language, some structural language) then it needs to be both a) Safe and b) Robust

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↳ In-reply-to » @movq I'm very curious...

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I’m kind of flag you bring thi sup, because you simply can’t. You wouldn’t even be able to in an atypical neural network either (which is what ehse things are anyway). The problem here really isn’t the so-called “AI” (I wish we’d stop calling it AI), but the flawed usage(s) thereof. I believe I even stated earlier in this thread that sometimes it may not do what you expect, it’s “probabilistic” not “deterministic” – those pushing for greater use need to understand this, those not happy with the “push”, should educate the ignorant here (especailly managers pushing for weak, insecure and bad uses).

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↳ In-reply-to » @movq I'm very curious...

@prologic@twtxt.net Ahh, I see. Okay, I’m with you there. On this high level, I can understand how the thing works.

Maybe my wording isn’t good. 🤔 Let’s take a real life example from what we do at work.

There’s this AI chatbot. It gets support requests from users, so the user says something like “I need access to a particular system”. This triggers the bot to “run” the instructions stored in a large Markdown file, like “check if the user is authorized to do this, then issue the following API requests”, and so on. This is essentially like running a little script, except it’s written in natural language (German) and there’s no “script interpreter” but just the AI.

Now, suppose that the AI doesn’t quite do what was intended. There’s some subtle bug. How do you debug this? How do you find out how the AI came to the “conclusion” to run step A instead of step B? And how do you find out how exactly you have to change your prompt so this doesn’t happen again next time?

If this was an actual script/program instead of AI, you could repeat the request and attach a debugger or throw in some printf() or whatever. How do you do that kind of thing with AI? How do you pinpoint exactly what the problem was?

(Or is this just a stupid idea? Do we have to give up that way of thinking when using AI? Is the era of debuggability over?)

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↳ In-reply-to » @movq I'm very curious...

And every time I ask it to do the same thing, it produces basically the same result. It will sometimes not produce a go.mod, but that’s probably because doing so isn’t as statically high as writing the code to sum numbers from stdin.

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↳ In-reply-to » @movq I'm very curious...

So going back to the understanding of how it generated this, is quite simply the most statistically relevant search space of it’s weights it has been trianed on and it has basically just produced a series of tokens, one after another that are relevant to the input, the next token and so on. It’s a trivial example I know, but it basically pattern matches it’s way through it’s vast search space just producing outputs based on context.

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↳ In-reply-to » @movq I'm very curious...

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I think your points are pretty clear to me, that’s fine. I’m just seeing if you can perhaps see things a different way maybe?🤔 I would challenge the assertion that you cannot understand how Claude Code generated an output; which I can demonstrate easily with a fairly trivial example by the input:

Write a program in Go that sums a list of numbers from stdin and prints the result.

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↳ In-reply-to » @movq I'm very curious...

@prologic@twtxt.net Yeah, it’s hard to get my point across here. I tried to address that a few paragraphs down.

Yes, I can tinker with AI techniques on a general level. That’s cool but not really my area of interest.

What I certainly can’t do is learn how specific AI products work. I can’t possibly find out why Claude Code produced that particular line of code. Claude is just a magic box that does something and I have to trust it.

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Former governor-general a man of compassion who paid heavy price for error in judgment
Peter Hollingworth had an unwavering concern for those on the margins, writes Labor legend Barry Jones. But a serious mistake while he was Archbishop of Brisbane led to his resignation as governor-general. ⌘ Read more

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↳ In-reply-to » @bender Well no. Some of us don't. Let me point you at some research on the subject 😅 Some people don't have an inner monologue

Most of the time, I take a very very long time to do anything. If I say, for example, “I’ll build an IRC Web Client”, that may not happen for weeks, if not months, until my sub conscience has has time to process everything. It’s like basically a “feeling” of internal readiness. I never talk through it, never actively think about it, it just happens.

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↳ In-reply-to » @bender Well no. Some of us don't. Let me point you at some research on the subject 😅 Some people don't have an inner monologue

You can basically think of this as pattern-matching. I’m very very good at very fast pattern matching and piecing pices of a puzzle together very quickly, sometimes with very little to go on, it’s often gotten me into a lot of trouble at work in my career because I can make a lot of assumptions very very quickly.

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↳ In-reply-to » @bender Well no. Some of us don't. Let me point you at some research on the subject 😅 Some people don't have an inner monologue

@bender@twtxt.net So yeah, no, I do not have an inner monologue at all. Most of the time my inner mind is busy just replaying music or visuals (or at least it used to before I lost my sight, these days it just replays visuals and sounds), but there is never a time when I “talk to myself”, ever, I don’t ever think through something, a problem or an activity and have self-arguments. I just do.

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↳ In-reply-to » @prologic don’t get mad at me, but the long block of text didn’t address any of my questions. 😜😅

@bender@twtxt.net Fine, Let me answer properly and concretely 😅

Would you want your children not to learn anything, because “they have AI”?

No, children still need to learn. That will never change. What they learn however will over time.

Are you OK with your children using the AI for all of their homework?

Yes, frankly I am. Why? Because much of what we teach them in school is utterly pointless.
For example, learning to read Shakespear never taught me anything useful in my life. I regret much of my school years to be honest.
I leanred to read and write, sure. But I learned Math, Science, Computing and how things work on my own by being very curious.

What sense will it make?

That assumes I answered “no”, which I did not. So it all makes perfect sense :D

What kind of future would that bring for them?

This assumes I said “Yes”, which I did :D It will be an itneresting future that’s for sure. I don’t think we can just bury our heads in teh sand and pretend it’s all going to go away, It will not. It will make things very interesting for sure, as we’re already starting to see what’s possible and what’s changeing. For example; ordinary people are using these LLM(s) to write their legal suit and defense in courts with varying levels of success.

Even if AI were to become omniscient, what will it be of the human race then?

I’m not convinced it ever will. In fact, I am not convinced we know how to create true intellience at all.

What would we do?

What would be so different from say an Alien invasion from far superious beings?
What would we do that? Band together and defend humanity?

Serve the AI? Maintain the AI?

That assumes that “AI” will become intelligent and omniscient, which I don’t believe it ever will.

Would we have found the true meaning of life then?

If the meaning of life is to create our own sub-species liken to ourselves, sure, maybe. But is that even a reality? not sure, I doubt it. We barely understand ourselves at the best of times, let alone how our minds works.

To care for AI, Is that it?

How would this be different to caring for a friend, a family member If we could ever truly reate an actual sentient being with real feelings and intelligenace, is there any reason to worry? Could we not be freinds and have mutual goals and form relationships?

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↳ In-reply-to » @bender Well no. Some of us don't. Let me point you at some research on the subject 😅 Some people don't have an inner monologue

@prologic@twtxt.net so, “people with no inner monologue—a condition researchers sometimes refer to as anendophasia”, says the AI. Then “it is not a disorder: lacking an inner voice is simply a different, perfectly healthy way of being human”. Ah, so a condition, but a healthy one. Got it.

Again, I am not talking about a true monologue. If you have never thought “OK, let’s do this!” before engaging on an activity, then alright. Weird, in contrast to the rest of us, hard to believe, yes, but I believe you. Much of the troubleshooting, and creativity that comes with thought involves, well, thoughts. Maybe you are closer to AI than the rest of us, indeed! 🤪😂

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↳ In-reply-to » @lyse Thanks! There are a few points in there that I’ll add to my list.

@bender@twtxt.net Now that’s an interesting philosophical viewpoint right there. But this assumes that the “AI” we seemingly have available to us today is actually telligent, understands and has cognitive reasoning. It does not. All of these LLM models from big-tech companies like Anthropic, OpenAI, Google, Microsoft, Meta and Alibaba are all just very powerful, very large multidimensional neural networks with attention that are very good at statistical probabilities of ‘what comes next”. I think we get really upset over the wrong things sometimes. We need to continue to be upset that these 🤬 companies have basically destroyed any meaningful value of the concept of Copyright and Intellectual Property and Works of art. The so-called “AI” we have today is just a tool. Can you say for certain that the typewriter and the computer ruined our ability to write? Perhaps yes, but we still learn how to do so, likewise, I still think that learning to write code, research, read and write are all valuable skills to learn. Later on once you have the basics, you can defer some of the “tedious” work to these models, because frankly, they’re far better at inferencing and pattern matching than you or i will ever be, not because they’re better at pattern-matching per se, but because they have been trained on a very large corpus and they are much much faster at doing the same basic things we are far superior at.

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↳ In-reply-to » @arne This is interesting. Sorry I missed this, I just found this post of yours and wanted to contribute 😅 Here's something interesting about me... I don't ever talk to myself, like ever. I have no, what they call, "inner monologue". Maybe I'm odd, but my wife asked me this very same question a while back and I said the same, there is never anything in my head except ideas, visuals or sounds, sometimes all at once, but never an inner monologue of "talking to myself".

@prologic@twtxt.net when you think, that’s you talking to yourself.

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↳ In-reply-to » @lyse Thanks! There are a few points in there that I’ll add to my list.

@prologic@twtxt.net let me ask you this. Would you want your children not to learn anything, because “they have AI”? Are you OK with your children using the AI for all of their homework? What sense will it make? What kind of future would that bring for them? We need to analyse the repercussions from all angles, even if AI were to provide absolutely flawless answers every single time. Even if AI were to become omniscient. What will it be of the human race then? What would we do? Serve the AI? Maintain the AI? Would we have found the true meaning of life then? To care for AI. Is that it?

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↳ In-reply-to » @arne This is interesting. Sorry I missed this, I just found this post of yours and wanted to contribute 😅 Here's something interesting about me... I don't ever talk to myself, like ever. I have no, what they call, "inner monologue". Maybe I'm odd, but my wife asked me this very same question a while back and I said the same, there is never anything in my head except ideas, visuals or sounds, sometimes all at once, but never an inner monologue of "talking to myself".

@prologic@twtxt.net I don’t believe you. For example, you are programming something, and you are planning the steps, or you struggle at certain point. Any train of thought, of any kind, has an addressing. “If I move this here, what will it happen?”. “Hmm if we’re to place this logic here, will it do what we need?“. “If I were to do this, will it work?” “Damn it, you are so stupid, James, how could you miss that?!!” And so on. 😅 And that’s just a minor thing.

Trust me, you do. We all do. Even the crazy ones.

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↳ In-reply-to » Over there, on the othernet, I just stumbled upon the question:

@arne@uplegger.eu This is interesting. Sorry I missed this, I just found this post of yours and wanted to contribute 😅 Here’s something interesting about me… I don’t ever talk to myself, like ever. I have no, what they call, “inner monologue”. Maybe I’m odd, but my wife asked me this very same question a while back and I said the same, there is never anything in my head except ideas, visuals or sounds, sometimes all at once, but never an inner monologue of “talking to myself”.

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Show HN: Open-source private home security camera system (end-to-end encryption)
Hey everyone,

I previously introduced an open source private home security camera in 2024, which uses OpenMLS for end-to-end encryption: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42284412.

It was called Privastead then and it’s now renamed to Secluso.

John Kaczman found my project from here and has been working on it with me over the last year and half. We’ve made a lot of improvements to the software, which w … ⌘ Read more

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↳ In-reply-to » @lyse Thanks! There are a few points in there that I’ll add to my list.

Is it the fact that “big tech” companies have basically stolen all of human knowledge to their benefit to build these AI(s) that’s the problem? Or is it that these AI(s) can write code better than you can (some of the time)? Or is it that because of all of the above, there’s no joy left in writing code anymore? 🤔

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The White House’s Aliens.gov Site Brags That ICE Arrested More Than 700 US Citizens
The website, which compares human beings to extraterrestrials, touts arrest numbers from the Trump administration’s sweeping immigration crackdown. But some of its details are really out there. ⌘ Read more

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‘We’re Just Getting the Crumbs Here’: Striking Contractors Protest Layoffs at Meta’s European Headquarters
Soon-to-be-laid-off Meta contractors say they’re being treated differently than Mark Zuckerberg’s full-time employees, who stand to receive more generous severance packages. ⌘ Read more

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Hands-On With Gemini Spark: I Gave It Access to My Life and It Friend-Zoned My Boyfriend
Google’s new AI agent combed through my emails, documents, and calendar to plan a birthday party and still didn’t clock the person most important to me. ⌘ Read more

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Show HN: AISlop, a CLI for catching AI generated code smells
Hi, I’m Kenny, I’ve been building aislop. I starting working on this after using Claude Code, codex and opencode several times and noticing some slops. They aren’t syntax and passes most tests, they are patterns like empty catch blocks, useless comments, duplicated helpers, dead code and many more. So I built a tool to scan and check for these patterns and wired it into hooks so after each tool call, the agent checks for the slops.

You can try it out with npx aislop sca … ⌘ Read more

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Physical Media Is Making a Comeback. The Next Console Generation Might Kill It
Consoles with disc drives are the easiest way to enjoy all kinds of physical media, but that could end with the next-gen PlayStation 6 and Microsoft’s Project Helix. ⌘ Read more

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