@bender@twtxt.net You mean to make it all blank? ;-)

@bender@twtxt.net Welcome to our bot club!

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Alright. 😅

Yeah, don’t waste time on this. I have a vacation coming up and I won’t touch this subject, either. Fuck this shit.

I really like your style of writing, btw. It’s much calmer and less aggressive then mine. :-) When I turned my bullet points into paragraphs, I got a bit mad in the process.

This is like the 32nd iteration of that list and it was much worse in the beginning. 😂

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org 🎉🎉🎉 @movq@www.uninformativ.de’s is Atom?

This is also why @bender@twtxt.net’s Notes feed was unaffected. It’s an RSS feed.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org maybe the time has come to dust off that https://lyse.isobeef.org/ page? ;-)

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org maybe you both are the bots! :-D That aside—which may, or may not be true, LOL—I agree too.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I really like your style of writing, btw. It’s much calmer and less aggressive then mine. :-) When I turned my bullet points into paragraphs, I got a bit mad in the process.

Sure, feel free to include anything you want. Regarding citing, this is where twtxt falls short in my opinion. Especially with feed rotation, classic links die quickly. Message hashes only help so much. Nobody outside the twtxt universe knows how to deal with them. So, not perfect for inclusion on a web page. Linking to a thread or message on some yarnd instance might be the more user-friendly option. But the disadvantage is that it’s “just” a mirror, not the primary or original source. In all reality, this could be considered splitting hairs, though.

I should have probably written a proper article. That would have given me time to review the result more carefully, too. ;-) Perhaps that’s something for the future. But honestly, I’m not sure if I really want to waste my time and energy on that subject. So many other fun or useless things come to mind right away that I could do instead. 8-)

So, yeah, do whatever feels best to you. I don’t mind being cited or linked, but I also don’t mind not to be cited or not to be linked to. :-D Not a helpful answer, I know. Sorry. ;-) But anyway, thanks for asking, mate! I do appreciate it.

To finish my thought, linking to my frontpage is probably also useless, since I deliberatly do not have a table of contents there. In fact, my entire frontpage is rather silly.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Oh, I understand exactly what you mean. :-) I fully agree with you. And it also completely puzzles me why only so few people share our view.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org (Do you want to be linked on that page? Do you want your name to be there at all? 🤔)

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Thanks! There are a few points in there that I’ll add to my list.

Your very first point is obviously crucial. “Writing code” is just the means to an end for many people and they don’t really care about it or like it, so they love AI. I had this in another draft (it refers to the other list I posted):

https://movq.de/v/614f14c3ef/ramble.txt

And this right here is so important:

simplicity is the real art and much harder to achieve.

Finding an elegant, simple solution is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay harder than anything else. And here’s the thing: I don’t get why nerds/techies don’t get “nerd-sniped” by this. A lot of people love building big stuff and then brag about being clever/competent because they were able to build that big thing – but once you realize that this approach is the lazy one, shouldn’t you make finding the elegant solution your goal? Doesn’t that give you more bragging rights?

(Am I being clear? Do you understand what I mean? 😅)

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Thanks. I noticed the <updated> of the feed, too. But for some reason, some articles were suddenly marked as new.

On some YouTube feed <entry>s, I noticed updated <updated> fields showing today’s timestamps. But unless there is no <published>, the <updated> is not even considered. I verified that in the source code. Yet, all the affected articles in Newsboat show today’s timestamp, not the years old publication timestamp. I generate the YouTube feeds from the original feeds myself once a day, so I doubt that this is cause by some YouTube shenanigans.

Very weird, it doesn’t make any sense at all. What is going on here? O_o It doesn’t appear that I have duplicates in the database either.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Uhhh, yes, I have one single script to build the website and I ran that while writing that noai.html page. Apart from the global updated field in my feeds (that one got changed), everything else should be stable, though.

Maybe this helps narrow things down?

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You didn’t change your Atom feed by any chance yesterday or today, @movq@www.uninformativ.de? Not only do I have a metric shitton of “new” old items in my YouTube feeds, but also a bunch of your old articles are shown as new.

I fear that this is a Newsboat bug. I rebuilt it yesterday from master.

Of course, @movq@www.uninformativ.de! Most of my points are also included in your list.

First of all, programming is what I really do enjoy the most. So, it doesn’t make any sense at all to not do this anymore. “But you could use your now free time to do something much cooler and more valuable!”, others might reply. Fuck no, I don’t want to waste my time with other shit that doesn’t fulfill me, why on earth would I want to do that?

All this hallucination reduces quality badly. In my experience, it’s also happening much more rapidly than I expected. Even though developers are still supposed to own and understand whatever has been generated under their name and even be responsible for that, the sad reality is that teammates often blindly trust the AI output. “But I asked the AI and it told me that $this was impossible”, “I’ve no idea either, but the AI just generated it” are responses I get more often. What really makes my angry is when I point out a flaw and suggest an alternative and this is the reaction. It happened several times that just trying it out and seeing it clearly work to proof my point only took me half a minute, but people still did something handwavy else instead.

The learning effect is drastically reduced. The more time I spend on a topic, the better the odds that whatever I learned actually makes it over into long-term memory. It’s like if a collegue just says “do it like that” or “this solves your problem”, but neither explains the why or how. Somehow, people are still convinced that it’s a completely different story when you replace the human counterpart with a computer program in this equation.

Skills are unlearned. It’s like with automation in general, just much worse. You end up in a state where you’ve no clue how anything works under the hood or how to actually find out important information that are needed to solve your problem. You’re screwed when a process breaks out of the blue. Even though it can become also rather terrible, with classical automation you’re typically still be able to decipher how exactly the thing was supposed to do something.

The energy consumption is sooo high, I absolutely do not want to be a part in burning down our planet. I’m sure I find (and probably have long found without knowing) other ways to contribute to worsen our climate crisis.

The scraper part is already covered in detail in your list. :-)

I’m convinced that license and copyright violations are only played down or even refused entirely because companies want to make big money quickly. With the work of others of course. Their double standards are obvious, they still try to actively keep their own stuff secret and out of any training sets. At most for internal use only. Virtually noone in charge is interested in good long-term solutions. Short-term for the win, when disaster eventually strikes, the causers are long gone, the responsibilities in other hands.

Vendor lock-in is something that lots of folks are only realizing very slowly. It’s completely crazy to me. This drug dealer routine should be well-known by now. It’s fucking everywhere. Yet, people are always surprised when they found themselves caught in it.

Adding new AI stuff only increases complexity. But complexity is the enemy that everybody should fear and reduce as much as possible. Of course, this is not limited to AI at all. And everywhere I look around, people in charge looooove to make things way more complicated than they ever need to be. Yet, simplicity is the real art and much harder to achieve.

I don’t understand why we have to go back full force to the ambiguity of natural languages. This alone should be more than enough to realize what a stupid idea all that is. Linked to that is that the “instruction set” is interpreted differently with newer model versions. I mean, is has to be. Why else would somebody want to upgrade in the first place than to get more Powerful™ Features™?

Some people argue that with AI the democratization is empowered. However, in my view, the exact opposite is the case. Models are getting so large that you can basically not run them locally or even train them. So, you have to rely on whatever the vendor offers you and runs for you. In the end, this only gives the owners more power, the multi billionaires. Not exactly what I understand by democratization.

Finally, technology assessments are missing completely. Or they are faked such that mostly only the (questionable) benefits are listed. But all the negative impact is just ignored.

Let’s keep some popcorn around for when this all explodes. :-)

@arne@uplegger.eu @movq@www.uninformativ.de Typically, I use “I”. But also “one” and, less common, “you”.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yes, this is the tricky bit for sure.

Of course, they say that totally convinced. Until it eventually explodes in their faces and let others clean up after themselves.

@itsericwoordward@itsericwoodward.com @bender@twtxt.net @prologic@twtxt.net Hahaha, it’s working fine in mine. But I cannot use spaces in the nickname. :-)

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@bender@twtxt.net I have no idea. Probably busy with life ya’know 😅 I’m just as guilty myself.

@prologic@twtxt.net I have no doubts. Within that parsing thought, I wonder, where in the world is @xuu@txt.sour.is?

@bender@twtxt.net If you break it, I will fix it 😅

@itsericwoodward@itsericwoodward.com such a déjà vu! Breaking Yarn’s parser used to be a daily routine. Now it doesn’t happen that often mostly because I have learned what it will cause it to break, and hold myself back. But it is finicky! 😅

@arne@uplegger.eu Lol, indeed, now that you mention it … “You can’t do that!” “You really should $foo.”

@thecanine@twtxt.net I love these. Pixel art is amazing. It looks so simple, but it’s really, really hard. 😳

@bender@twtxt.net Oh, no. That’s my baby. 😅 It was built in 1989 and I probably had it since the early 1990ies (it came with an IBM PS/2 Model 30 that they handed out to employees, IIRC).

@prologic@twtxt.net I don’t know how to phrase the answer without sounding too bitter. 🤣 Let’s just say, nope, it won’t work.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Yeah, I’ve heard of that option (“Aufhebungsvertrag”). I guess the real challenge will be finding something else that isn’t just as silly.

And on the bright side, you don’t even have to hand over anything.

They actually say that with a straight face. (Did I mention that already?) “The age of maintainership is over. Anyone can now contribute to any project at any time.”

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Oh, please post that list.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de @bender@twtxt.net Couldn’t agree more. I’ll check my list tomorrow that I started a few weeks ago.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de If you really like to, you can try to negotiate with your employer that you can leave earlier. At least some mates were successful in that. I mean, it’s also in the company’s interest to not have to pay someone who has already mentally resigned long ago.

And on the bright side, you don’t even have to hand over anything. Your boss doesn’t have to look for a successor, so they can just let you go even sooner. This AI shit will simply continue whatever you did, no problem!!

It’s so crazy. I should probably also look for something else. :-(

@Little-Eric-{{first_name}}@itsericwoodward.com Hahaha, will do! :-D

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Hahaha, very nice! :-D

@thecanine@twtxt.net such handsome doggo! Much wow! ❤️

@prologic@twtxt.net oh, I see, convoluted pleasures have taken over your time, eh? One day I will grow up to be like you. I hope. Maybe. 😅

@bender@twtxt.net I have no time for simple pleasures anymore 😳

@prologic@twtxt.net good day, mate! Your “hyperparticipation” is sorely missed! :-P

@movq@www.uninformativ.de hahahahaha!

@movq@www.uninformativ.de ooooh, yes! I am going to subscribe to that. Well done.

Second attempt, at mixing a couple of previous designs together and I think this one came out pretty cute looking.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Are you able to set a level of standards and expectations in the repo you are the maintainer of? 🤔

@prologic@twtxt.net There is nothing I can do – except quit. The company explicitly wants it that way.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de What are you going to do about this? 🧐

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Found him: https://movq.de/v/66f49383d8/vid-1779857134.mp4

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org LOL.

@itsericwoordward@itsericwoodward.com @bender@twtxt.net Dang it, I missed it, too.

@itsericwoordward@itsericwoodward.com Confess, you just registered as {{first_name}}!

Nobody checks their e-mail templates. And even if they do, they only look at the HTML part. The plain text part is useless more often than not. Granted, this is the subject.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I only had 3.5” disks.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Cool! Let’s look for 57 61 6C 64 6F.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Congratulations! I also was a LAMP dude back in the days. That’s all we had as kids without money. :-)

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I just changed the bindsym directly in my i3 config. But I’m looking forward to learn a few new tricks. :-)

@movq@www.uninformativ.de you keep the floppies, give me that clickyty keyboard! :-D

@itsericwoodward@itsericwoodward.com ahh, I missed this one! I have now added it to my calendar, so come 25 May 2027 I shall not forget. To the hoopy froods!

@itsericwoodward@itsericwoodward.com LOl 🤣

@kiwu@twtxt.net Wooop Wooop! 🥳 Congratulations!!

@itsericwoodward@itsericwoodward.com Just a phone? These things have become shockingly good …

@itsericwoodward@itsericwoodward.com tack sharp pics, dude! Just like @movq@www.uninformativ.de, I want to know details on the rig. I am assuming a DSLR (Canon/Nikon), but if it was done with a mobile camera I wouldn’t be surprised.

@tftp@tilde.town Ah, I see. I have a feeling that a lot of stuff is going on under the hood all the time and it’s mostly the userland-visible things that stay the same? 🤔 But yeah, some stuff is really, really old, like the TCP code I’ve recently (tried to) read.

@itsericwoodward@itsericwoodward.com Those are some really nice shots. I mean, the cat and also the shots themselves. Which cam is that? (Don’t tell me it’s an iPhone, that’d be boring. 😂)

@itsericwoodward@itsericwoodward.com Very nice 👍

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org … this reminds me that I should finally write that tutorial on how to make your own X11/Wayland keymaps. That helps a lot in mitigating stupid design issues like these.

@bender@twtxt.net This shit is back. But with SSHFS instead of SMB now. SMB is still fucked for no reason. Let’s see, when it explodes.

@tftp@tilde.town Please elaborate. 😅

@tftp@tilde.town hey, my pleasure! Have a great weekend! I am going to off for a few days to do a whole lot of nothing. Can’t wait! 😂

@kiwu@twtxt.net Wuuiii, what to do with all this free time suddenly!? Wait, what? Free time? Nah, nevermind. Now, the time begins where it gets even worse once you start a fulltime job. Congratulations, mate! :-D

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Don’t worry, the agents will forget everything for them. Ehh…

@movq@www.uninformativ.de That certainly paid for itself.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Oh, great!

@kiwu@twtxt.net Hooray, congratz 🥳

@kiwu@twtxt.net Whoohoo! Congrats!!! 🙌

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org this is taking too long, we miss our photo dosage! Please out that support, I shall give them hell.

@tftp@tilde.town you say that like it is a bad thing. It is not! 😅 Once you have learned your way around, all works together quite lovely. Of course, experimenting with new clients is fun too!

@prologic@twtxt.net Bloated websites? Naaaaah, that’s unheard of. 😅

@movq@www.uninformativ.de are you sure it’s the browser is getting slow or is it website developers adding more more crap to their sites?

@arne@uplegger.eu All the flavors, all at once! 😅

@arne@uplegger.eu looks beautiful. I mean, look at those colours! Ahh, warm baguette, yes! Yet, you lost me at herring fillet. 🤭

@tftp@tilde.town Hello 👋

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I just say “Pflaumenaugust”: A matjes herring fillet on a bed of plum jam in a warm baguette roll with crispy onions and fresh apple slices.

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@arne@uplegger.eu (Mixing lovely fruit with bitter things like olives or cheese is something that only Germans do, right? 😅)

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Yeah, that was an interesting debugging session. :-) (Those have become rare, lately …)

@arne@uplegger.eu In der Tat ein Klassiker. Mjam, mjam!

@arne@uplegger.eu OK, I am hungry now, thank you very much! LOL.

@tftp@tilde.town mentioning in here requires he whole shebang. With jenny, if using vim, there is a key combination:

Nick name completions: Allows you to use ^X ^U to turn verbatim nick names into full twtxt mentions. For example, typing “cath” and then pressing ^X ^U will turn “cath” into a full mention, like “@”. (This function will read the contents of your “~/.config/jenny/follow” file.)

See: https://movq.de/git/jenny/file/vim/README.html

Interesting read on the ECONNRESET saga, @movq@www.uninformativ.de. Thanks for the writeup! <3

Am Wochenende war wieder einmal ESC (der 70., um genau zu sein) und es gab selbstverständlich den Klassiker: Wurst-Käse-Igel.

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@tftp@tilde.town tango foxtrot tango papa, welcome! 🤭

@tftp@tilde.town Apparently you can. 😅 Welcome. 👋

Welcome @tftp@tilde.town, I just found you in my access log. :-)

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Oh, that’s cool! Un- and redo are absolutely valuable features.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I fear that you are right.

@prologic@twtxt.net Yep, that’s what I’m going for. 😃 I mean, I don’t want to make an exact clone, just catch some of the DOS vibe.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Very cool! reminds me of MS-DOS and Norton Commander back in the ye ‘ol days 😅

@kiwu@twtxt.net Doing well thank you! 🙏 Playing the Brisbane Open this weekend, Table Tennis 🏓

@kiwu@twtxt.net all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. :-D Doing well, how about you? Anything exciting and new?

@itsericwoodward@itsericwoodward.com pretty cool how far you have taken this! Exciting to see how it continues to mature. Which reminds me, @zvava@twtxt.net… where are thou? :-D

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org LOL! That’s brilliant. (We’re going back to that. Some Amazon employees probably already are.)

@movq@www.uninformativ.de 100% agree. We’re driving straight into a wall at full throttle. Doing it with a clear warning.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Apropos shit: I did not know about the history of Scheißtag. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schei%C3%9Ftag

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org

So, it’s plenty good enough for them.

Yeah, but on the other hand, you can’t even log in normally to a Matrix/Element account. I mean using username + password. It’s not expected that you ever log out or lose your browser session. If you do, you must use a one-time backup code (that you must create and save beforehand) to log in again.

To be fair, I can’t say that I fully understand what Matrix is doing in the first place. The text that I quoted reads like they have your keys. But they also claim that they only store this stuff encryped: https://element.io/en/help#encryption5 So … encrypted with what? Only option here is my password, isn’t it? (But if my password was good enough to reclaim an account … why do all the other stuff …)

Matrix takes end-to-end encryption seriously. When I ran a Matrix server for the family, the family members would regularly lose their keys, because they didn’t pay attention to something. That’s on purpose! Or rather, that was on purpose. Maybe it’s different these days?

No clue.

Oh no, speedy recovery, @movq@www.uninformativ.de! I was down for one day on Saturday. Vomiting through the nose. Not entirely sure what that was, but I reckon something in the food poisoning or sunstroke realm.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Oh my goodness, hahaha!

To be fair, it depends on your threat model. And I believe it’s very safe to bet that most probably don’t have one. Nor even remotely know what that is. So, it’s plenty good enough for them.

With that new to me detail on top, there’s even less incentive to look at this Matrix hype more closely.