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↳ In-reply-to » Now that is an interesting move:

@prologic@twtxt.net As have I. šŸ¤” I mean, since I left GitHub, I got basically 0 pull requests anyway.

Even during my time using GitHub, I noticed that ā€œdrive-by PRsā€ are rarely a good idea. People don’t really know/understand the code or the design principles/goals, so I often turned down PRs. Or I accepted them and was grumpy afterwards. šŸ˜…

What does work is having a team of maintainers/devs. The only question is: How do you build such a team if you don’t accept PRs? That’s going to be the interesting part.

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↳ In-reply-to » @lyse By the way, which site generator are you using? I kind of miss having code blocks with syntax highlighting and that generic yellow highlighting thing is pretty cool, too.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Ah, I almost thought so (that you wrote it by hand), but then I looked at the source code and saw the TOC and I was like: ā€œNaah, probably not. I would be way too lazy to do that manually.ā€ šŸ˜… And indeed … ha.

Oh god, yeah, that’s a lot of <span>. šŸ¤” Can’t really avoid that, I guess, especially if you want to do syntax highlighting of code blocks.

You wrote your own site generator, didn’t you?

In parts. I write everything in Markdown (it’s online, even: https://movq.de/blog/postings/2026-05-29/0/POSTING-en.md), plus a few Vim shortcuts (to generate thumbnails, for example), and then python-markdown renders it: https://pypi.org/project/Markdown/ This process is wrapped in a shell script, like ā€œre-render every page if the .md file is newer than the .html fileā€ and that’s mostly it. And the Atom feed generator is completely custom. šŸ¤”

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↳ In-reply-to » @lyse By the way, which site generator are you using? I kind of miss having code blocks with syntax highlighting and that generic yellow highlighting thing is pretty cool, too.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de It’s the ā€œLyse types the entire HTML by handā€ generator. Yes, no kidding. I write articles so rarely, that I can do that once in a while. It’s fun to some degree, but also not.

After some time, I finally recorded some Vim macros to insert <b>…</b>, <var>…</var>, <span class=s>…</span> etc. around the tokens. This helped a little bit. But I was still questioning my mental state doing it like that. I also had to fix a bunch of the end tags by hand, because the word movement wasn’t enough or the end movement went too far. Quite the annoying process for sure.

But I think the HTML looks a wee bit nicer and is maybe even semantically a little bit better than having only <span>s everywhere. I find the <span class="whatever"> just soo awfully long. Of course, I never look at the code again, but knowing, that e.g. there is a <b> and it saves so many bytes in comparison, makes me happy. It is a more elegant solution in my opinion. Not by much, but better nonetheless. It’s a matter of simplicity. Admittedly, even I can’t avoid the <span>s alltogether. Oh well. On the other hand, I’m sure that this does not make any difference whatsoever. I bet, nobody and nothing, like a screenreader, analyzes the HTML for that, where this would be truly useful.

Oh! Maybe text browsers, though. It just occurred to me while composing this reply. :-) Haha, I lost my bet quickly. w3m picks up at least the <b> for keywords and builtin types, <u> for filenames and <i> for comments. Yey. No different styles for <var> and <mark>, unfortunately. elinks only renders the bold. It’s cool that I had the right intuition right from the beginning, despite being unable to pinpoint it. :-)

All the <span> hell with common syntax highlighters is a downer for me that keeps me from looking more into them. If I wrote more articles, I might rig something up with Pygments. At least that’s somehow positively connotated in my brain. Not sure if it actually deserves it, but I dealt with that in some loose form (can’t even remember) years and years ago. Apparently, it wasn’t too terrible.

To prepare the table of contents, I used grep and sed with some manual intervention in the end. The entire process can be improved. Absolutely.

You wrote your own site generator, didn’t you?

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↳ In-reply-to » Aha, my nickname at work now appears to be ā€œPrincess Garbage Disposalā€ (ā€œPrinzessin Müllabfuhrā€). šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø 🄓

@bender@twtxt.net It started out as me calling myself ā€œPrincess Valiumā€ because I’m so tired and braindead today, but then someone misheard that because a garbage truck drove by, and, so … one thing lead to another. 🤪 Sadly, it kind of fits, because I’m often the one who cleans up shit. 😬

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↳ In-reply-to » We’re at close to 20k hits now, but it has slowed down considerably. Nobody cares about page 2. šŸ˜…

@prologic@twtxt.net I do! I paginate usually 10 times on HN. Their algo is so messed up (but it works, I guess) that not doing that will make me miss a lot of good, interesting, things.

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↳ In-reply-to » @bender … boom, 5500+ hits on that blog post. 🤣 Should I start monetizing this shit?! 🤪 (Don’t worry, I won’t. German law gets super annoying if you do that kind of thing.)

@bender@twtxt.net The good thing is that it’s already pretty battle-tested. šŸ˜… There was this dumpster fire a few years back: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31114554 This was on their front page for quite a while, just look at the number of comments … šŸ˜‚

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↳ In-reply-to » (#tyakazq) @prologic that possible in any profession. Contrary to what @prologic's think, I don't think it is a human weakness. That some people are absolute and despicable assholes? Yep, I agree on that.

@bender@twtxt.net Yes, but I consider this to be a flaw in the human species. Think about it, what good does it serve? What possible reason do we have to have such traits today? Survival of the fitness? pffft šŸ˜…

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↳ In-reply-to » @bender … boom, 5500+ hits on that blog post. 🤣 Should I start monetizing this shit?! 🤪 (Don’t worry, I won’t. German law gets super annoying if you do that kind of thing.)

@movq@www.uninformativ.de LOL. At least now you know your infrastructure and web server can handle some traffic. Consider it a test, in addition to the fleeting recognition. 🤣

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↳ In-reply-to » @lyse Oh, nice. That was quite the ride. :-) And all that because of locales. 😳

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Hahaha, a ride indeed. Exactly, this affected each and every Atom feed and only Atom feeds. All RSS feeds worked like nothing ever happened. This std::string to time_t to std::string to time_t dance only happens for Atom feeds. RSS feeds, on the other hand, go right from std::string to time_t and be done. That’s precisely what the second option is aiming to propose for Atom feeds, too.

I will clarify that tomorrow in the article.

It’s very interesting what kind of quirks accumulate in software over the years. Especially quirks, the basically noone knows of anymore. Until something explodes and gets rediscovered. Luckily, that doesn’t happen all that often.

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↳ In-reply-to » @movq Thanks. I noticed the <updated> of the feed, too. But for some reason, some articles were suddenly marked as new.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Oh, nice. That was quite the ride. :-) And all that because of locales. 😳

But, did I understand that correctly? All Atom feeds were broken, right? Because they all use that same code path with that strftime/strptime dance in it?

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↳ In-reply-to » I rode my bicyle to the scout flea market setup a few weeks ago when I had to stop to admire the morning sun lighting up the fields. https://lyse.isobeef.org/morgensonne-2026-05-08/ Of course, these photos don't do justice at all.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I notice a theme here, but can’t quite place my finger on it… 🤭

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↳ In-reply-to » Oh boy, it was bloody humid this morning. Just around 20°C when we left, but climbing rapidly. The flow of air when walking was okay, but as soon as we stopped, streams of sweat were pouring down on us. Luckily, it was cloudy, but the lack of wind was bad. Now, the sun is out, 29°C will be reached in an hour and I'm glad that the house is still cool. It will be a different story in a few weeks or months. Not looking forward to that at ll.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Nature is cruel.

And the humidity sucks. It’s been a horrible day. 🄓

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↳ In-reply-to » Haha, someone had a similar idea … https://lpcvoid.com/blog/0018whyiamagainst_genai/index.html

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Hah šŸ˜… One thing I’ve learned in my life (as I’ve had many good manegers over the years teach me as much) is:

Strong opinions, held loosely.

I have my opinions too, but I also see positives and benefits and I am optimistic that we will collectively figure out a path forward.

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↳ In-reply-to » It's one of the reasons in fact I've been working on bob so I have a very concrete and strong foundation for how these things work, how they behave and how bad or good they can be. I am on-purpose building bob to be not only a decent coding tool and general task completion tool, but with serious security boundaries, sanitation, auditing and compliance. If I'm going to succeed at building autoonmous agents that can cope with a wider array of varying inputs (mostly natural language, some structural language) then it needs to be both a) Safe and b) Robust

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yes šŸ‘

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↳ In-reply-to » It's one of the reasons in fact I've been working on bob so I have a very concrete and strong foundation for how these things work, how they behave and how bad or good they can be. I am on-purpose building bob to be not only a decent coding tool and general task completion tool, but with serious security boundaries, sanitation, auditing and compliance. If I'm going to succeed at building autoonmous agents that can cope with a wider array of varying inputs (mostly natural language, some structural language) then it needs to be both a) Safe and b) Robust

@prologic@twtxt.net Ah, so that’s what ā€œBobā€ is. I saw that popping up in email notifications. šŸ˜…

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↳ In-reply-to » @movq I'm very curious...

@prologic@twtxt.net

it’s ā€œprobabilisticā€ not ā€œdeterministicā€

Yep, I know. And when I tell that to people and tell them ā€œif we use AI here, we lose the ability to debug this stuffā€, then all I get is: ā€œBut it’s good enough. We don’t need to debug this. Non-deterministic computing has its use cases.ā€

But that is just not how I’d like to model/implement our business processes. šŸ¤” I want something reliable, not ā€œit mostly worksā€.

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↳ In-reply-to » @movq I'm very curious...

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I’m kind of flag you bring thi sup, because you simply can’t. You wouldn’t even be able to in an atypical neural network either (which is what ehse things are anyway). The problem here really isn’t the so-called ā€œAIā€ (I wish we’d stop calling it AI), but the flawed usage(s) thereof. I believe I even stated earlier in this thread that sometimes it may not do what you expect, it’s ā€œprobabilisticā€ not ā€œdeterministicā€ – those pushing for greater use need to understand this, those not happy with the ā€œpushā€, should educate the ignorant here (especailly managers pushing for weak, insecure and bad uses).

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↳ In-reply-to » @movq I'm very curious...

@prologic@twtxt.net Ahh, I see. Okay, I’m with you there. On this high level, I can understand how the thing works.

Maybe my wording isn’t good. šŸ¤” Let’s take a real life example from what we do at work.

There’s this AI chatbot. It gets support requests from users, so the user says something like ā€œI need access to a particular systemā€. This triggers the bot to ā€œrunā€ the instructions stored in a large Markdown file, like ā€œcheck if the user is authorized to do this, then issue the following API requestsā€, and so on. This is essentially like running a little script, except it’s written in natural language (German) and there’s no ā€œscript interpreterā€ but just the AI.

Now, suppose that the AI doesn’t quite do what was intended. There’s some subtle bug. How do you debug this? How do you find out how the AI came to the ā€œconclusionā€ to run step A instead of step B? And how do you find out how exactly you have to change your prompt so this doesn’t happen again next time?

If this was an actual script/program instead of AI, you could repeat the request and attach a debugger or throw in some printf() or whatever. How do you do that kind of thing with AI? How do you pinpoint exactly what the problem was?

(Or is this just a stupid idea? Do we have to give up that way of thinking when using AI? Is the era of debuggability over?)

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↳ In-reply-to » @movq I'm very curious...

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I think your points are pretty clear to me, that’s fine. I’m just seeing if you can perhaps see things a different way maybe?šŸ¤” I would challenge the assertion that you cannot understand how Claude Code generated an output; which I can demonstrate easily with a fairly trivial example by the input:

Write a program in Go that sums a list of numbers from stdin and prints the result.

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↳ In-reply-to » @movq I'm very curious...

@prologic@twtxt.net Yeah, it’s hard to get my point across here. I tried to address that a few paragraphs down.

Yes, I can tinker with AI techniques on a general level. That’s cool but not really my area of interest.

What I certainly can’t do is learn how specific AI products work. I can’t possibly find out why Claude Code produced that particular line of code. Claude is just a magic box that does something and I have to trust it.

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↳ In-reply-to » @bender Well no. Some of us don't. Let me point you at some research on the subject šŸ˜… Some people don't have an inner monologue

@bender@twtxt.net So yeah, no, I do not have an inner monologue at all. Most of the time my inner mind is busy just replaying music or visuals (or at least it used to before I lost my sight, these days it just replays visuals and sounds), but there is never a time when I ā€œtalk to myselfā€, ever, I don’t ever think through something, a problem or an activity and have self-arguments. I just do.

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↳ In-reply-to » @prologic don’t get mad at me, but the long block of text didn’t address any of my questions. šŸ˜œšŸ˜…

@bender@twtxt.net Fine, Let me answer properly and concretely šŸ˜…

Would you want your children not to learn anything, because ā€œthey have AIā€?

No, children still need to learn. That will never change. What they learn however will over time.

Are you OK with your children using the AI for all of their homework?

Yes, frankly I am. Why? Because much of what we teach them in school is utterly pointless.
For example, learning to read Shakespear never taught me anything useful in my life. I regret much of my school years to be honest.
I leanred to read and write, sure. But I learned Math, Science, Computing and how things work on my own by being very curious.

What sense will it make?

That assumes I answered ā€œnoā€, which I did not. So it all makes perfect sense :D

What kind of future would that bring for them?

This assumes I said ā€œYesā€, which I did :D It will be an itneresting future that’s for sure. I don’t think we can just bury our heads in teh sand and pretend it’s all going to go away, It will not. It will make things very interesting for sure, as we’re already starting to see what’s possible and what’s changeing. For example; ordinary people are using these LLM(s) to write their legal suit and defense in courts with varying levels of success.

Even if AI were to become omniscient, what will it be of the human race then?

I’m not convinced it ever will. In fact, I am not convinced we know how to create true intellience at all.

What would we do?

What would be so different from say an Alien invasion from far superious beings?
What would we do that? Band together and defend humanity?

Serve the AI? Maintain the AI?

That assumes that ā€œAIā€ will become intelligent and omniscient, which I don’t believe it ever will.

Would we have found the true meaning of life then?

If the meaning of life is to create our own sub-species liken to ourselves, sure, maybe. But is that even a reality? not sure, I doubt it. We barely understand ourselves at the best of times, let alone how our minds works.

To care for AI, Is that it?

How would this be different to caring for a friend, a family member If we could ever truly reate an actual sentient being with real feelings and intelligenace, is there any reason to worry? Could we not be freinds and have mutual goals and form relationships?

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↳ In-reply-to » @bender Well no. Some of us don't. Let me point you at some research on the subject šŸ˜… Some people don't have an inner monologue

@prologic@twtxt.net so, ā€œpeople with no inner monologue—a condition researchers sometimes refer to as anendophasiaā€, says the AI. Then ā€œit is not a disorder: lacking an inner voice is simply a different, perfectly healthy way of being humanā€. Ah, so a condition, but a healthy one. Got it.

Again, I am not talking about a true monologue. If you have never thought ā€œOK, let’s do this!ā€ before engaging on an activity, then alright. Weird, in contrast to the rest of us, hard to believe, yes, but I believe you. Much of the troubleshooting, and creativity that comes with thought involves, well, thoughts. Maybe you are closer to AI than the rest of us, indeed! šŸ¤ŖšŸ˜‚

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↳ In-reply-to » @arne This is interesting. Sorry I missed this, I just found this post of yours and wanted to contribute šŸ˜… Here's something interesting about me... I don't ever talk to myself, like ever. I have no, what they call, "inner monologue". Maybe I'm odd, but my wife asked me this very same question a while back and I said the same, there is never anything in my head except ideas, visuals or sounds, sometimes all at once, but never an inner monologue of "talking to myself".

@bender@twtxt.net Well no. Some of us don’t. Let me point you at some research on the subject šŸ˜… Some people don’t have an inner monologue

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↳ In-reply-to » @lyse Thanks! There are a few points in there that I’ll add to my list.

@bender@twtxt.net Now that’s an interesting philosophical viewpoint right there. But this assumes that the ā€œAIā€ we seemingly have available to us today is actually telligent, understands and has cognitive reasoning. It does not. All of these LLM models from big-tech companies like Anthropic, OpenAI, Google, Microsoft, Meta and Alibaba are all just very powerful, very large multidimensional neural networks with attention that are very good at statistical probabilities of ā€˜what comes nextā€. I think we get really upset over the wrong things sometimes. We need to continue to be upset that these 🤬 companies have basically destroyed any meaningful value of the concept of Copyright and Intellectual Property and Works of art. The so-called ā€œAIā€ we have today is just a tool. Can you say for certain that the typewriter and the computer ruined our ability to write? Perhaps yes, but we still learn how to do so, likewise, I still think that learning to write code, research, read and write are all valuable skills to learn. Later on once you have the basics, you can defer some of the ā€œtediousā€ work to these models, because frankly, they’re far better at inferencing and pattern matching than you or i will ever be, not because they’re better at pattern-matching per se, but because they have been trained on a very large corpus and they are much much faster at doing the same basic things we are far superior at.

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↳ In-reply-to » @arne This is interesting. Sorry I missed this, I just found this post of yours and wanted to contribute šŸ˜… Here's something interesting about me... I don't ever talk to myself, like ever. I have no, what they call, "inner monologue". Maybe I'm odd, but my wife asked me this very same question a while back and I said the same, there is never anything in my head except ideas, visuals or sounds, sometimes all at once, but never an inner monologue of "talking to myself".

@prologic@twtxt.net when you think, that’s you talking to yourself.

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↳ In-reply-to » @arne This is interesting. Sorry I missed this, I just found this post of yours and wanted to contribute šŸ˜… Here's something interesting about me... I don't ever talk to myself, like ever. I have no, what they call, "inner monologue". Maybe I'm odd, but my wife asked me this very same question a while back and I said the same, there is never anything in my head except ideas, visuals or sounds, sometimes all at once, but never an inner monologue of "talking to myself".

@bender@twtxt.net Nope. Trust me I do not. The only time I do is when I’m reading/writing. I otherwise have no inner monologue when doing anything.

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↳ In-reply-to » @lyse Thanks! There are a few points in there that I’ll add to my list.

@prologic@twtxt.net let me ask you this. Would you want your children not to learn anything, because ā€œthey have AIā€? Are you OK with your children using the AI for all of their homework? What sense will it make? What kind of future would that bring for them? We need to analyse the repercussions from all angles, even if AI were to provide absolutely flawless answers every single time. Even if AI were to become omniscient. What will it be of the human race then? What would we do? Serve the AI? Maintain the AI? Would we have found the true meaning of life then? To care for AI. Is that it?

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↳ In-reply-to » @arne This is interesting. Sorry I missed this, I just found this post of yours and wanted to contribute šŸ˜… Here's something interesting about me... I don't ever talk to myself, like ever. I have no, what they call, "inner monologue". Maybe I'm odd, but my wife asked me this very same question a while back and I said the same, there is never anything in my head except ideas, visuals or sounds, sometimes all at once, but never an inner monologue of "talking to myself".

@prologic@twtxt.net I don’t believe you. For example, you are programming something, and you are planning the steps, or you struggle at certain point. Any train of thought, of any kind, has an addressing. ā€œIf I move this here, what will it happen?ā€. ā€œHmm if we’re to place this logic here, will it do what we need?ā€œ. ā€œIf I were to do this, will it work?ā€ ā€œDamn it, you are so stupid, James, how could you miss that?!!ā€ And so on. šŸ˜… And that’s just a minor thing.

Trust me, you do. We all do. Even the crazy ones.

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↳ In-reply-to » Over there, on the othernet, I just stumbled upon the question:

@arne@uplegger.eu This is interesting. Sorry I missed this, I just found this post of yours and wanted to contribute šŸ˜… Here’s something interesting about me… I don’t ever talk to myself, like ever. I have no, what they call, ā€œinner monologueā€. Maybe I’m odd, but my wife asked me this very same question a while back and I said the same, there is never anything in my head except ideas, visuals or sounds, sometimes all at once, but never an inner monologue of ā€œtalking to myselfā€.

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↳ In-reply-to » @lyse Thanks! There are a few points in there that I’ll add to my list.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I’m very curious…

What I like about this whole computer stuff is that you can explore how
things work. You can dig through problems and solve them. Nothing is
more satisfying than finally understanding something after you scratched
your head for some hours.

Surely you could do the same with AI? Tinker with how it works, study it, understand it, build your own and realize what it really is (without all the big tech hype)?

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