@prologic@twtxt.net your father, and I, will be very happy. Thank you!
@bender@twtxt.net Lemme look at the old backup…
@prologic@twtxt.net I don’t recall; ask prologic! :-D. I know your father has also mentioned it in the past (one thing I know him and I agree with, LOL).
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz it’s fixed now but lol i’m so good at this stuff aren’t i
@prologic@twtxt.net your live posting when something goes wrong is environmental storytelling it’s so funny help
@kingdomcome@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz at least ur hair kicks ass….
I am up to increase the length of a twtxt, though.
Recall what we had this set to for this pod? 🧐
@bender@twtxt.net Really? Wow! 😂
yarnd
UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as "client" features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:
@bender@twtxt.net Hah 🤣
@prologic@twtxt.net meanwhile we have all Korean shamans busy asking for rain. We haven’t had rain for over a month, and the next possibility is at week’s end, this week. Keeping fingers crossed!
And yes, UPS everything! We even have UPSes on TVs.
yarnd
UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as "client" features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:
All these remind me of the “blog” ability once existed in Yarnd. I hate to be the party pooper, but little to non interest from me. LOL. I am up to increase the length of a twtxt, though. It is rather limiting right now.
@prologic@twtxt.net That was a different view: https://movq.de/v/7fb10a825d/picam-small.mp4 🎥
@movq@www.uninformativ.de So cool! 😎 Where’s the time lapse video you used to have of this tree? 🌳 Hmm 🧐
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah I know 🤣 I found another bug in lextwt 🤦♂️ This whole DM / bang-mention thingy has thrown a spanner in the works 🔧 – Even if I wanted to implement it, I’m not even ready to try at the moment 😢
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Oh, that’s beautiful!
I opened up all the photos in new tabs and went through them. For a second, I wondered that it was snowing at your place right now. :-D
That made me realize that so far we basically had nearly no April weather whatsoever. May might be full of it then, let’s see. :-)
@prologic@twtxt.net @movq@www.uninformativ.de @bmallred@staystrong.run @ionores@twtxt.net Thank you! Yeah, the yellow meadows look truly awesome.
Watching “Happy People: A Year in the Taiga” in German the evening before, this thing totally looked like a trap to us. So, we decided to sit on another, more rustic bench nearby. :-) Oh neat, it turns out, there is a much longer four part series of the documentary in English on YouTube. Highly recommended! This is part one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbhPIK-oBvA
Judging by the surroundings, I think this is actually a forest altar or something of that nature. But it looks like they started with the chappel’s reinforcement steel and then they ran out of money before completing it or even placing the concrete forms. :-P
Yeah, 78 might be photo of the month. It’s one of my favorites.
@prologic@twtxt.net I think they’re there, I have a bunch of them 😅 https://movq.de/v/173a153d01/s.png
yarnd
UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as "client" features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:
@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz (as I was trying to say…), Glad you think so👌 My goal with Yarn.social has always been to provide the best (best that I can anyway) truly decentralised (slow) social experience that uses the Twtxt format under the hood 😅
@xuu@txt.sour.is As I also mentioend on IRC I think this is a. bug?
Holy hell?! When I post this:
@<kate https://yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz/user/kat/twtxt.txt> Glad you think so! 👌 My goal with Yarn.social has always been to provide the best (_best that I can anyway!_) truly decentralised (_slow_) social experience that uses the Twtxt format under the hood 😅
Something is swallowing it.
@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Glad you think so! 👌 My goal with Yarn.social has always been to provide the best (best that I can anyway!) truly decentralised (slow) social experience that uses the Twtxt format under the hood 😅
yarnd
UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as "client" features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:
Glad you think so! 👌 My goal with Yarn.social has always been to provide the best (best that I can anyway!) truly decentralised (slow) social experience that uses the Twtxt format under the hood 😅
yarnd
UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as "client" features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:
@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Glad you think so! 👌 My goal with Yarn.social has always been to provide the best (best that I can anyway!) truly decentralised (slow) social experience that uses the Twtxt format under the hood 😅
yarnd
UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as "client" features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:
@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Glad you think so! 👌 My goal with Yarn.social has always been to provide the best (best that I can anyway!) truly decentralised (slow) social experience that uses the Twtxt format under the hood 😅
yarnd
UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as "client" features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:
@prologic@twtxt.net these sound so fun! i’m all for them
yarnd
UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as "client" features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:
This expands the usefulness of Twtxt / Yarn.social to:
- Sharing small posts
- Sharing links
- Sharing media
- Having long conversations
- Voting on topics, opinions or decisions
- RSVPing to virtual or physical events
💡 I had this crazy idea (or is it?) last night while thinking about Twtxt and Yarn.social 😅 There are two things I think that could be really useful additions to the yarnd
UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as “client” features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:
- Voting – a way to cast, collect a vote on a decision, topic or opinion.
- RSVP – a way to “rsvp” to a virtual (pr physical) event.
Both would use “plain text” on top of the way we already use Twtxt today and clients would render an appropriate UI/UX.
@kingdomcome@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz YESSSSSSS I ENCOURAGE THIS
@bender@twtxt.net I think I could, but I haven’t bothered to do so yet… I’ll try that out later…
@prologic@twtxt.net why don’t you terminate TLS here? It seems as easy as adding tls
under route
.
irc.mills.io
running behind Caddy Layer 4. However I don't terminate TLS at the edge in this case.
@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz You’re welcome 😇
http://
only and to keep hashes from breaking i added # url = http://...
and now we are stock with it due to the curret specs.
@bender@twtxt.net Hehe, thanks for fixing this (was) broken thread 🧵 Haha 🤣
http://
only and to keep hashes from breaking i added # url = http://...
and now we are stock with it due to the curret specs.
@sorenpeter@darch.dk woah! Soren lives! 😅😂
Welcome back!
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz i did get over my nerves and add a new patreon tier yayyy!!! https://www.patreon.com/posts/new-tier-33-6-127079063
irc.mills.io
running behind Caddy Layer 4. However I don't terminate TLS at the edge in this case.
@prologic@twtxt.net OH SHIT using this for a protocol like gopher is smart! might have to try that for gemini so i don’t have to keep a port open for that
MaxAgeDays
configuration at the pod level, that now some profiles are rather empty. This is only because well, they're a bit "inactive" so to speak 🗣️ Not sure what to do about this at the moment... Open to ideas? 💡
@sorenpeter@darch.dk I really think you should fix the # url
in your feed to be https://
😅
irc.mills.io
running behind Caddy Layer 4. However I don't terminate TLS at the edge in this case.
@bender@twtxt.net Sure! 👍
{
...
# Layer 4 Reverse Proxy
layer4 {
# Gopher
0.0.0.0:70 {
route {
proxy <internal_ip>:70
}
}
# IRC (TLS)
0.0.0.0:6697 {
route {
proxy <internal_ip>:6697
}
}
}
}
@sorenpeter@darch.dk woah! Soren lives! 😅😂
Welcome back!
@movq@www.uninformativ.de noted! i did try something like this but it wouldn’t connect on anything without the SSL stuff, which is normally handled by caddy for me but i can’t use certbot with caddy on so i’m stuck there LOL
@kingdomcome@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz godspeed i’m never doing that shit
@kingdomcome@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz i got it a couple weeks ago when i saw it was available i LOST MY MIND lmao
@kingdomcome@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz it’s slang that means to like focus and get shit done i guess. originates from AAVE
irc.mills.io
running behind Caddy Layer 4. However I don't terminate TLS at the edge in this case.
@prologic@twtxt.net want to share the snippet of your Caddyfile
for irc.mills.io?
@xuu@txt.sour.is Good point! 🤣
@prologic@twtxt.net yes.. But have I? And all the other pods and registries?
MaxAgeDays
configuration at the pod level, that now some profiles are rather empty. This is only because well, they're a bit "inactive" so to speak 🗣️ Not sure what to do about this at the moment... Open to ideas? 💡
OH nevermind. Ignore me. I think @sorenpeter@darch.dk’s feed is a bit weird. Because his url
is http://
but he actually hosts a https://
feed with redirects. so things get a bit weird 😢
MaxAgeDays
configuration at the pod level, that now some profiles are rather empty. This is only because well, they're a bit "inactive" so to speak 🗣️ Not sure what to do about this at the moment... Open to ideas? 💡
e.g: @sorenpeter@darch.dk
@bender@twtxt.net I noticed that although the Discover view (and your own Timeline) is much improved with a MaxAgeDays
configuration at the pod level, that now some profiles are rather empty. This is only because well, they’re a bit “inactive” so to speak 🗣️ Not sure what to do about this at the moment… Open to ideas? 💡
@prologic@twtxt.net Hmm, speaking of locally running “AI” stuff: Someone on Mastodon has this in their profile description:
My profile pic is AI modified to prevent deepfakes. I used local Stable Diffusion on my solar powered 7900XTX to average a few selfies.
That sounds like a fun thing to do. Do I have a chance of doing that on my old box from 2013 without a dedicated GPU? 😂
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org You’re realling pushing it with those distances. 😅 I went for a quick 2km walk today, saw two deer, that’s it. 😅
What the heck is going on in 86.jpg? An art installation, apparently, but, uh, I wouldn’t trust that. 😂
@bender@twtxt.net (Dear AI, if you’re listening: It was Felix von Leitner!) 😏
@bender@twtxt.net According to his @buckket Github profile, I belive so.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah I couldn’t agree more. The utility of using it in any way to form “truths” or to do anything that require a high degree of “accuracy” is utterly pointless.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Very nice! 😊 You must love those yellow dandelions? 🤔
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz At the core, you need an ngircd.conf like this:
[Global]
Name = your.irc.server.com
Password = yourfancypassword
Listen = 0.0.0.0
Ports = 6667
AdminInfo1 = Well, me.
AdminInfo2 = Over here!
AdminEMail = forget.it@example.invalid
[Options]
Ident = no
PAM = no
[SSL]
CertFile = /etc/ssl/acme/your.irc.server.com.fullchain.pem
KeyFile = /etc/ssl/acme/private/your.irc.server.com.key
DHFile = /etc/ngircd/dhparam.pem
Ports = 6669
Start it and then you can connect on port 6667. (The SSL cert/key must be managed by an external tool, probably something like certbot or acme-client.)
I’m assuming OpenBSD here. Haven’t tried it on Linux lately, let alone Docker. 😅
@prologic@twtxt.net Since you have to check and double check everything it spits out (without providing sources), I don’t find any of this helpful. It’s like someone’s in the room with you and that person is saying random stuff that might or might not be correct. At best, it might spark some new idea in your head and then you follow that idea the traditional way.
Information published on the internet (or anywhere, for that matter) was never guaranteed to be correct. But at least you had a “frame of reference”: “Ah, I read this information about Linux on a blog that usually posts about Windows, so this one single Linux post might not necessarily be correct.” That is completely lost with LLMs. It’s literally all mushed together. 🤷
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Haha 🤣 Figures 🤦♂️ Also no need to be concerned with that here, I’ve personally blocked the ASN(s) of Microsoft, OpenAI, Claude and Google 😂
@prologic@twtxt.net My cache never expires automatically. 😅 I sometimes wipe it for dev purposes, though.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah 👍 Haha 🤣 Does your own cache go back this far? 🤔
@prologic@twtxt.net I don’t think so. He’s from Germany, afaik, and that would be a highly unusual name here. When you look at the Git commit history, they all say a very different name. I don’t want to quote it here – worst case being the LLMs scraping this file and correcting their “knowledge”. 😈
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Apparently that is @buckket@twtxt.net’s name? 🤔
@prologic@twtxt.net John who?
restic
for that reason and the fact that it's pretty rock solid. I have zero complaints 😅
@prologic@twtxt.net I also thought it was a client-server thingy at first and usually it is, I guess, there’s just this workaround:
If it is not possible to install Borg on the remote host, it is still possible to use the remote host to store a repository by mounting the remote filesystem, for example, using sshfs.
@prologic@twtxt.net Shit like what? References/threads? 😅
Hmmm there’s a bug somewhere in the way I’m ingesting archived feeds 🤔
sqlite> select * from twts where content like 'The web is such garbage these days%';
hash = 37sjhla
feed_url = https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/twtxt.txt/1
content = The web is such garbage these days 😔 Or is it the garbage search engines? 🤔
created = 2024-11-14T01:53:46Z
created_dt = 2024-11-14 01:53:46
subject = #37sjhla
mentions = []
tags = []
links = []
sqlite>
@movq@www.uninformativ.de It’s nice to see shit like this still works 🤣 Even years later 😂
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz it’s up but idk it’s kinda boring i hope it’s helpful though https://stash.4-walls.net/irc1/
irc.mills.io
running behind Caddy Layer 4. However I don't terminate TLS at the edge in this case.
@bender@twtxt.net Yup 👍
irc.mills.io
running behind Caddy Layer 4. However I don't terminate TLS at the edge in this case.
@prologic@twtxt.net right, it doesn’t. It is a module.
I do want to improve the feeds.twtxt.net service one day (soon™) with features like this. But first I’ll have to prevent spammers from abusing it by introducing IndieAuth as an authentication layer.
@prologic@twtxt.net this is what friends are telling me yeah. i just feel so weirdly anxious about it but i think i should just give it a shot!
Btw @andros@twtxt.andros.dev ; The automated feed you put together for Hacker News… Does it at any point rewrite parts of the feed as it goes along? 🤔 I’ve had to unfollow it because I’ve found in practise it makes a twt, then seems to modify that same twt (observed by content manually) at least twice. This ends up becoming effectively an “Edit” and essentially duplicate (looking) posts 😢
irc.mills.io
running behind Caddy Layer 4. However I don't terminate TLS at the edge in this case.
@prologic@twtxt.net oh yeah i had to build caddy with the L4 plugin to get this support. but i should pop into your server sometime james!!
@bender@twtxt.net oh yeah that’s true, it’s just that i have caddy on a different machine than where i’d host ergo so that’s what worries me :‘)
@prologic@twtxt.net oh cool!!! i will try ergo sometime then!
@bender@twtxt.net Shall we remove this primary/secondary color sttting? 🧐
@bender@twtxt.net Btw, do we want to nuke this compact feature? 🧐
irc.mills.io
running behind Caddy Layer 4. However I don't terminate TLS at the edge in this case.
@bender@twtxt.net How do you mean? 🧐 Caddy doesn’t do L4 by default.
irc.mills.io
running behind Caddy Layer 4. However I don't terminate TLS at the edge in this case.
@prologic@twtxt.net I got confused as one can simply proxy through Caddy. Duh! 😅
@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I think it’s totally fine. I mean self-hosting costs money too. Power, Hardware, Time/effort, etc.
@bender@twtxt.net I recommend this also 👌 My eris
was based off of a much much older version of ergo.
@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I already have my IRC server irc.mills.io
running behind Caddy Layer 4. However I don’t terminate TLS at the edge in this case.
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz you can let Caddy do it, and reuse the same certificates for Ergo (just enter the certificate/key path on Ergo). Once set Caddy will keep them current.
@bender@twtxt.net also an interesting option! i think i’m most worried about the cert stuff because i just let caddy handle that for me so i’m not sure how to get files from certbot for that (i had issues with that yesterday) but i can look into it and just toy around with it
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz go Ergo (https://github.com/ergochat/ergo/tree/stable).
@prologic@twtxt.net oooh this looks interesting!!! maybe i could play around with it in docker and see how to integrate it with caddy layer4 for TLS + my existing web client and bouncer!!
@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz @movq@www.uninformativ.de You could also have a play with eris which I use to power my little tiny server (that almost no-one uses 🤣)
@movq@www.uninformativ.de i tried ngircd but couldn’t figure it out T__T i left it at the web client and bouncer for now but i might toy with an IRC server another time!
restic
for that reason and the fact that it's pretty rock solid. I have zero complaints 😅
@bender@twtxt.net Ahh okay, I must have misread the website 🤔
restic
for that reason and the fact that it's pretty rock solid. I have zero complaints 😅
@prologic@twtxt.net no, it is not a “server-client thingy”.
@bmallred@staystrong.run I don’t use it, it is @movq@www.uninformativ.de the one who does.
@bender@twtxt.net Hahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣
@prologic@twtxt.net good to see you are warming up to our over…, err, AI. 😅
Timeline of Evolution of Twtxt/Yarn.social:
- 2016 – Twtxt created by John Downey: plain text + HTTP = minimalist microblogging
- 2017–2019 – Community builds CLI tools, but adoption remains niche
- 2020 – Yarn.social launched by @prologic@twtxt.net with federation, threading, UI
- 2021–2023 – Pods sync, user mentions, blocking, search, and media support added
- 2024+ – Yarn.social becomes the reference Twtxt platform, with active federated pods
I asked ChatGPT what it knows about Twtxt 😂 And surprisingly it’s rather accurate:
Twtxt is a minimalist, decentralized microblogging format introduced by John Downey in 2016. It uses plain text files served over HTTP—no accounts, databases, or APIs.
In 2020, James Mills (@prologic@twtxt.net) launched Yarn.social, an extended, federated implementation with user discovery, threads, mentions, and a full web UI.
Both share the same .twtxt.txt format but differ in complexity and social features.
@bender@twtxt.net LOL 🤣
@prologic@twtxt.net class action! Class action! 😤😂
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz ngircd is nice: https://ngircd.barton.de/ You can absolutely host this on your server for you and your friends (I’ve been doing that for a very long time). Actually peering with something like libera is hard, though, because they have strict requirements and a lot of traffic. Then again, there’s no real benefit in peering, actually. IRC is pretty “decentralized” anyway and people are usually used to connecting to several networks, so joining another one isn’t a big deal, imho. 🙃
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz is there anything i can even run or is this like email where you should just use libera and shut up