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In-reply-to » Testing mentions, immediately followed by commas. Let's see: @prologic, this one is local, it might not break. Now, this one @ isn't local. Nor this @ one. Will they break. Let's find out!

@bender@twtxt.net I can fix and make that work in the parser too. But I’m no longer sure how to cater for the general case. It’s too much to support all punctuation whilst at the same time as other contradicting rules. For example you cannot both support . in nicknames and then expect to be able to to end a mention with a . 🤦‍♂️

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In-reply-to » I'll see if I can fix this and write a test case for what's going on here. I think this is made difficult now because folks like @eapl.me decide that it's okay to have a . (period) in their # nick 🤣 tbh I think nick(s) should have rules of what they can and cannot be comprised of. i.e: no punctuation 🤦‍♂️

@bender@twtxt.net Yes I know 🤣 It’s okay, we just have to build better parsers 😅

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In-reply-to » I'll see if I can fix this and write a test case for what's going on here. I think this is made difficult now because folks like @eapl.me decide that it's okay to have a . (period) in their # nick 🤣 tbh I think nick(s) should have rules of what they can and cannot be comprised of. i.e: no punctuation 🤦‍♂️

@prologic@twtxt.net having rules like this on a decentralised system is nearly impossible. LOL. Ahhh, one of the many perks of decentralisation!

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In-reply-to » @bender This story just reminds me of the couple of times we've paid for things in cash 💰 💲 and the stupid banks with the ridiculous "scam alert policy" ask you all kind of dumb ass questions about what you need the cash for 🤦‍♂️ One of these days I need an excuse to buy something that costs a few $k just so I can answer when asked, "what do you need the cash for?" to which my response will be "drugs and hookers of course!" 🤣

@bender@twtxt.net LOL 😂

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In-reply-to » @bender This story just reminds me of the couple of times we've paid for things in cash 💰 💲 and the stupid banks with the ridiculous "scam alert policy" ask you all kind of dumb ass questions about what you need the cash for 🤦‍♂️ One of these days I need an excuse to buy something that costs a few $k just so I can answer when asked, "what do you need the cash for?" to which my response will be "drugs and hookers of course!" 🤣

@prologic@twtxt.net I would say “We are going to the adult’s toy store for our yearly haul”, though “going to a house of burlesque” would work too! LOL.

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In-reply-to » "A handbag belonging to the homeland security secretary Kristi Noem containing her passport, department security badge and $3,000 in cash was stolen on Sunday night at a restaurant in Washington, the department confirmed."

@bender@twtxt.net This story just reminds me of the couple of times we’ve paid for things in cash 💰 💲 and the stupid banks with the ridiculous “scam alert policy” ask you all kind of dumb ass questions about what you need the cash for 🤦‍♂️ One of these days I need an excuse to buy something that costs a few $k just so I can answer when asked, “what do you need the cash for?” to which my response will be “drugs and hookers of course!” 🤣

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In-reply-to » After reading you, @eapl.me, I'll tell you my point of view. In my opinion, a feed does not have to be equivalent to a timeline. A timeline is a representation of the feed adapted to a user. You may not be interested in seeing other people's threads or DMs. But perhaps they are interested in seeing mentions or DMs directed at them. It is important not to fall into the trap. With that clarification... I insist, this is my point of view, it is not an absolute truth: I don't think extensions should be respectful of customers who are no longer maintained. We cannot have a system that is simple, backwards compatible and extensible all at the same time. We have to give up some of the 3 points. I would not like to give up simplicity because it will then make it harder to maintain the customers who do stay. Therefore, I think it is better to give up backwards compatibility and play with new formulas in the extensions. I don't think it's a good idea to make a hash keep so much load: a hashtag, a thread and also a DM.

@bender@twtxt.net The DM specification has been updated from time to time in response to advice from the community. For me, It is a successful!
The adoption is another topic 😂
(I am working on my side)

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In-reply-to » Btw @andros ; The automated feed you put together for Hacker News... Does it at any point rewrite parts of the feed as it goes along? 🤔 I've had to unfollow it because I've found in practise it makes a twt, then seems to modify that same twt (observed by content manually) at least twice. This ends up becoming effectively an "Edit" and essentially duplicate (looking) posts 😢

@doesnm.p.psf.lt@doesnm.p.psf.lt Remind me alter 🙏

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In-reply-to » Btw @andros ; The automated feed you put together for Hacker News... Does it at any point rewrite parts of the feed as it goes along? 🤔 I've had to unfollow it because I've found in practise it makes a twt, then seems to modify that same twt (observed by content manually) at least twice. This ends up becoming effectively an "Edit" and essentially duplicate (looking) posts 😢

@prologic@twtxt.net @andros@twtxt.andros.dev You can delete these feeds (created by me):
https://feeds.twtxt.net/project26/twtxt.txt
https://lor.sh/@Katze_942.rss <- i’m added him but can’t find file
the only rss i follow is https://feeds.twtxt.net/posts-from-atdarkcat09atdc09-ru/twtxt.txt

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In-reply-to » rough day today T__T therapy was hard. i'm trying yet again to establish a routine and stick to it. or at least a way of tracking my tasks and making a routine out of that over time. i really hope it sticks

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz creating habits or rituals as hard, dropping ones that you no longer need or considered harmful is even harder! Good luck! 🙏

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In-reply-to » Today's stroll was really nice. Just around 11km in total I'd reckon. We had a barbie at a mate's garden where everybody went on a hunt for an easter basket. Oh boy, what a preparation that must have been! Baking the bunnies, dying the eggs, mixing the bear leek butter and so on. That's dedication, let me tell you. :-)

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org so cute and so pretty!

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In-reply-to » @andros nothing stands still, I agree. I think current twtxt has surpassed the initial specification, while still being relatively backwards compliant/compatible but, for how long?

@bender@twtxt.net You said:

as long as those working on clients can reach an agreement on how to move forward. That has proven, though, to be a pickle in the past.

I think this is because we probably need to start thinking about three different aspects to the ecosystem and document them out:

  • Specifications (as they are now)
  • Server recommendations (e.g: Timeline, yarnd, etc)
  • Client recommendations (e.g: jenny, tt, tt2, twet, etc)

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In-reply-to » "A handbag belonging to the homeland security secretary Kristi Noem containing her passport, department security badge and $3,000 in cash was stolen on Sunday night at a restaurant in Washington, the department confirmed."

@bender@twtxt.net wut?! Who carries three grand worth of cash in their handbag?! 👜 Haha 😆

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In-reply-to » Today's stroll was really nice. Just around 11km in total I'd reckon. We had a barbie at a mate's garden where everybody went on a hunt for an easter basket. Oh boy, what a preparation that must have been! Baking the bunnies, dying the eggs, mixing the bear leek butter and so on. That's dedication, let me tell you. :-)

@bender@twtxt.net Thanks! The rain rapidly cooled off the 17°C to just 10°C. I certainly appreciated that. The weather is coming from the west here, so I thought you’ve sent it our way. Let me try to return it. :-)

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In-reply-to » Today's stroll was really nice. Just around 11km in total I'd reckon. We had a barbie at a mate's garden where everybody went on a hunt for an easter basket. Oh boy, what a preparation that must have been! Baking the bunnies, dying the eggs, mixing the bear leek butter and so on. That's dedication, let me tell you. :-)

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org oh, and thanks for the bigger photo! I like how it lovely fill the twtxt in Yarnd. Woot!

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In-reply-to » Today's stroll was really nice. Just around 11km in total I'd reckon. We had a barbie at a mate's garden where everybody went on a hunt for an easter basket. Oh boy, what a preparation that must have been! Baking the bunnies, dying the eggs, mixing the bear leek butter and so on. That's dedication, let me tell you. :-)

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I can see somebody put a good effort coming up with some pretty cool goodies! We, Floridians, envy your proper April weather. We are toasting already, and it is not even May. Send us some rain, please!

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In-reply-to » After reading you, @eapl.me, I'll tell you my point of view. In my opinion, a feed does not have to be equivalent to a timeline. A timeline is a representation of the feed adapted to a user. You may not be interested in seeing other people's threads or DMs. But perhaps they are interested in seeing mentions or DMs directed at them. It is important not to fall into the trap. With that clarification... I insist, this is my point of view, it is not an absolute truth: I don't think extensions should be respectful of customers who are no longer maintained. We cannot have a system that is simple, backwards compatible and extensible all at the same time. We have to give up some of the 3 points. I would not like to give up simplicity because it will then make it harder to maintain the customers who do stay. Therefore, I think it is better to give up backwards compatibility and play with new formulas in the extensions. I don't think it's a good idea to make a hash keep so much load: a hashtag, a thread and also a DM.

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev nothing stands still, I agree. I think current twtxt has surpassed the initial specification, while still being relatively backwards compliant/compatible but, for how long?

As for new extensions (DM, for example), they should be OK as long as those working on clients can reach an agreement on how to move forward. That has proven, though, to be a pickle in the past.

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In-reply-to » Btw @andros ; The automated feed you put together for Hacker News... Does it at any point rewrite parts of the feed as it goes along? 🤔 I've had to unfollow it because I've found in practise it makes a twt, then seems to modify that same twt (observed by content manually) at least twice. This ends up becoming effectively an "Edit" and essentially duplicate (looking) posts 😢

@prologic@twtxt.net I won’t give you the link for the moment because I want to check how well it works! 😋

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This code displays the last 10 lines of a twtxt feed without a full dowload.

FEED_URL="https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/twtxt.txt"
MAX_RANGE=$(curl -sI $FEED_URL | grep -i 'content-length' | awk '{print $2}' | tr -d '\r')
MIN_RANGE=$((MAX_RANGE - 5000))

curl -s --range "$MIN_RANGE-$MAX_RANGE" "$FEED_URL" | grep -v -e '^#' -e '^$' | head -n 10

My self-response!

@prologic@twtxt.net @david@collantes.us

#twtxt

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In-reply-to » @bender I use it. It's not the feature I use the most in the fediverse, but I communicate this way with several friends. For example, it's the main way I talk to the original creator of the twtxt-el repository, the way people greet me for the first time or the way they notify me of some bugs in the software I maintain. I can even tell you that it's the main way I talk to some maintainers of the Emacs community. If there are any of you reading my words, speak up! Why not have the same? There are things I want to say to @prologic in private, why should I have to send him an email or private IRC? Or an public twt. Of course, here's a topic we've already talked about: what is twtxt for you? For me it will always be a social network, in microblogging format, but an asynchronous way of communicating. And having a tool to control visibility is basic 😄 I look forward to hearing from you @eapl.me !

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Zulu said:

what is twtxt for you?

For me Twtxt is just the underlying format that Yarn.social builds upon 😅

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In-reply-to » Btw @andros ; The automated feed you put together for Hacker News... Does it at any point rewrite parts of the feed as it goes along? 🤔 I've had to unfollow it because I've found in practise it makes a twt, then seems to modify that same twt (observed by content manually) at least twice. This ends up becoming effectively an "Edit" and essentially duplicate (looking) posts 😢

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Ahh cool! I’ll try following it again 🤣 Mind @-mentioning/linking@twtxt.net the feed again? 🙏

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In-reply-to » Proposal: Change the order of twts in the feeds https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/twtxt.dev/issues/26 I drop the bomb and leave! 💣 🏃‍➡️ #twtxt

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Haha 🤣 We’ve explored this idea in the past and we decided that it’s actually a good idea to have an “append-only” feed for various reasons. We’ve also explored the idea of using Range requests, but opted instead to just archive/rotate our feeds periodically 😅 There really isn’t much point in having a feed in reverse chronological order, except (maybe?) so a human read view the new twts at the top of the file?! 🤣

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In-reply-to » @prologic @bender @eapl.me I think opening another file is a bad idea because it adds complexity to the clients, breaks the single feed and I think keeping legacy clients will be more complex to add new features in the future. A modern approach is important. I'll be honest, I'm a bit tired of the fight around the direct message. Perhaps, we can remove it as an extension and use the alternative @prologic . My suggestion apparently doesn't like to the community. I have no problem with remove it.

@bender@twtxt.net I use it. It’s not the feature I use the most in the fediverse, but I communicate this way with several friends. For example, it’s the main way I talk to the original creator of the twtxt-el repository, the way people greet me for the first time or the way they notify me of some bugs in the software I maintain. I can even tell you that it’s the main way I talk to some maintainers of the Emacs community. If there are any of you reading my words, speak up!
Why not have the same? There are things I want to say to @prologic@twtxt.net in private, why should I have to send him an email or private IRC? Or an public twt.
Of course, here’s a topic we’ve already talked about: what is twtxt for you? For me it will always be a social network, in microblogging format, but an asynchronous way of communicating. And having a tool to control visibility is basic 😄
I look forward to hearing from you @eapl.me@eapl.me !

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In-reply-to » @david @andros The correct hash would be si4er3q. See https://twtxt.dev/exts/twt-hash.html, a timezone offset of +00:00 or -00:00 must be replaced by Z.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de @aelaraji@aelaraji.com Yes @david@collantes.us It would be good for me, or new developers, if the documentation were agnostic. And if possible with many example cases. I’m fine-tuning the code as you inform me of bugs, trial and error. It’s a lesson to be learned for the future.

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In-reply-to » Btw @andros ; The automated feed you put together for Hacker News... Does it at any point rewrite parts of the feed as it goes along? 🤔 I've had to unfollow it because I've found in practise it makes a twt, then seems to modify that same twt (observed by content manually) at least twice. This ends up becoming effectively an "Edit" and essentially duplicate (looking) posts 😢

@prologic@twtxt.net Sorry! I have fixed a bug and I edited the feed 🫠

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In-reply-to » All these remind me of the "blog" ability once existed in Yarnd. I hate to be the party pooper, but little to non interest from me. LOL. I am up to increase the length of a twtxt, though. It is rather limiting right now.

@prologic@twtxt.net your father, and I, will be very happy. Thank you!

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In-reply-to » All these remind me of the "blog" ability once existed in Yarnd. I hate to be the party pooper, but little to non interest from me. LOL. I am up to increase the length of a twtxt, though. It is rather limiting right now.

@prologic@twtxt.net I don’t recall; ask prologic! :-D. I know your father has also mentioned it in the past (one thing I know him and I agree with, LOL).

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In-reply-to » All these remind me of the "blog" ability once existed in Yarnd. I hate to be the party pooper, but little to non interest from me. LOL. I am up to increase the length of a twtxt, though. It is rather limiting right now.

@bender@twtxt.net

I am up to increase the length of a twtxt, though.

Recall what we had this set to for this pod? 🧐

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In-reply-to » 💡 I had this crazy idea (or is it?) last night while thinking about Twtxt and Yarn.social 😅 There are two things I think that could be really useful additions to the yarnd UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as "client" features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:

@bender@twtxt.net Hah 🤣

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In-reply-to » Just had a freak storm ⛈️ with lots of horizontal rain ☔️ that took out and tripped our internal RCD (again) 😱 Took out our Fibre too (servers were fine, good 'ol UPS). Need to get a UPS for the Fibre box 📦 Haha 🤣

@prologic@twtxt.net meanwhile we have all Korean shamans busy asking for rain. We haven’t had rain for over a month, and the next possibility is at week’s end, this week. Keeping fingers crossed!

And yes, UPS everything! We even have UPSes on TVs.

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In-reply-to » 💡 I had this crazy idea (or is it?) last night while thinking about Twtxt and Yarn.social 😅 There are two things I think that could be really useful additions to the yarnd UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as "client" features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:

All these remind me of the “blog” ability once existed in Yarnd. I hate to be the party pooper, but little to non interest from me. LOL. I am up to increase the length of a twtxt, though. It is rather limiting right now.

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In-reply-to » “The Tree”™ in last winter:

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Oh, that’s beautiful!

I opened up all the photos in new tabs and went through them. For a second, I wondered that it was snowing at your place right now. :-D

That made me realize that so far we basically had nearly no April weather whatsoever. May might be full of it then, let’s see. :-)

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In-reply-to » A mate and I had an amazing but also exhausting hike to the highest of the Three Emperor Mountains yesterday with perfect weather conditions. Sunny 18°C, blue sky with barly a cloud and a little welcoming breeze, just beautiful.

@prologic@twtxt.net @movq@www.uninformativ.de @bmallred@staystrong.run @ionores@twtxt.net Thank you! Yeah, the yellow meadows look truly awesome.

Watching “Happy People: A Year in the Taiga” in German the evening before, this thing totally looked like a trap to us. So, we decided to sit on another, more rustic bench nearby. :-) Oh neat, it turns out, there is a much longer four part series of the documentary in English on YouTube. Highly recommended! This is part one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbhPIK-oBvA

Judging by the surroundings, I think this is actually a forest altar or something of that nature. But it looks like they started with the chappel’s reinforcement steel and then they ran out of money before completing it or even placing the concrete forms. :-P

Yeah, 78 might be photo of the month. It’s one of my favorites.

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In-reply-to » 💡 I had this crazy idea (or is it?) last night while thinking about Twtxt and Yarn.social 😅 There are two things I think that could be really useful additions to the yarnd UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as "client" features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:

@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz (as I was trying to say…), Glad you think so👌 My goal with Yarn.social has always been to provide the best (best that I can anyway) truly decentralised (slow) social experience that uses the Twtxt format under the hood 😅

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In-reply-to » Hmmm?

Holy hell?! When I post this:

@<kate https://yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz/user/kat/twtxt.txt> Glad you think so! 👌 My goal with Yarn.social has always been to provide the best (_best that I can anyway!_) truly decentralised (_slow_) social experience that uses the Twtxt format under the hood 😅

Something is swallowing it.

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In-reply-to » 💡 I had this crazy idea (or is it?) last night while thinking about Twtxt and Yarn.social 😅 There are two things I think that could be really useful additions to the yarnd UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as "client" features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:

Glad you think so! 👌 My goal with Yarn.social has always been to provide the best (best that I can anyway!) truly decentralised (slow) social experience that uses the Twtxt format under the hood 😅

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In-reply-to » 💡 I had this crazy idea (or is it?) last night while thinking about Twtxt and Yarn.social 😅 There are two things I think that could be really useful additions to the yarnd UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as "client" features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:

@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Glad you think so! 👌 My goal with Yarn.social has always been to provide the best (best that I can anyway!) truly decentralised (slow) social experience that uses the Twtxt format under the hood 😅

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In-reply-to » 💡 I had this crazy idea (or is it?) last night while thinking about Twtxt and Yarn.social 😅 There are two things I think that could be really useful additions to the yarnd UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as "client" features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:

@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Glad you think so! 👌 My goal with Yarn.social has always been to provide the best (best that I can anyway!) truly decentralised (slow) social experience that uses the Twtxt format under the hood 😅

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In-reply-to » 💡 I had this crazy idea (or is it?) last night while thinking about Twtxt and Yarn.social 😅 There are two things I think that could be really useful additions to the yarnd UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as "client" features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:

@prologic@twtxt.net these sound so fun! i’m all for them

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In-reply-to » 💡 I had this crazy idea (or is it?) last night while thinking about Twtxt and Yarn.social 😅 There are two things I think that could be really useful additions to the yarnd UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as "client" features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:

This expands the usefulness of Twtxt / Yarn.social to:

  • Sharing small posts
  • Sharing links
  • Sharing media
  • Having long conversations
  • Voting on topics, opinions or decisions
  • RSVPing to virtual or physical events

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💡 I had this crazy idea (or is it?) last night while thinking about Twtxt and Yarn.social 😅 There are two things I think that could be really useful additions to the yarnd UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as “client” features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:

  • Voting – a way to cast, collect a vote on a decision, topic or opinion.
  • RSVP – a way to “rsvp” to a virtual (pr physical) event.

Both would use “plain text” on top of the way we already use Twtxt today and clients would render an appropriate UI/UX.

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In-reply-to » @bender I noticed that although the Discover view (and your own Timeline) is much improved with a MaxAgeDays configuration at the pod level, that now some profiles are rather empty. This is only because well, they're a bit "inactive" so to speak 🗣️ Not sure what to do about this at the moment... Open to ideas? 💡

@sorenpeter@darch.dk I really think you should fix the # url in your feed to be https:// 😅

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