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In-reply-to » anyway. do u like pretty covers of pretty songs. well check out this pretty cover of coldplay viva la vida by a k-pop girl who's got PIPES i love her so much https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmk0-dXSYPI

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz You are right! 🤣 That was a really lovely rendition of that song! 🎧 🙌

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In-reply-to » my biggest fear of starting to work with servers professionally is realizing that no one uses servers anymore and having to do some cloud bullshit instead

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz That’s thankfully not entirely true. There are some companies that are starting to realize that “Cloud” is actually more expensive and so we’re starting to see a bit of a migration back 🤞

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In-reply-to » @prologic I created a script for your book. i have only done the first two chapters. have to do some adjustments to the text so it sounds ok and that takes time..

@xuu Oh wow! Thank you ! 🙏 And yeah even at 2x it sounds good enough to comprehend 🤣

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In-reply-to » @eapl.me@eapl.me I replied in the fork, but essentially there's no reason we can't support two different models here. We already do this anyway with numerous single-user, single hosted and managed feeds + a bunch of multi-user yarnd pods that form a "distributed network".

@xuu Yeah looks like an edge case. Because of the way he announces his preferred nick in the feed the “Reply” button spits out @eapl.me@eapl.me@eapl.me for me, which then gets eaten as two mentions, probably matching twice against my following list?

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In-reply-to » What does the #twtxt community think about having a p2p database to store all history? This will be managed by Registries.

@eapl.me@eapl.me@eapl.me@eapl.me I replied in the fork, but essentially there’s no reason we can’t support two different models here. We already do this anyway with numerous single-user, single hosted and managed feeds + a bunch of multi-user yarnd pods that form a “distributed network”.

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In-reply-to » I'd like to know more about what andros and prologic are talking about, I feel lost.

@eapl.me@eapl.me@eapl.me@eapl.me I think the general idea that we’re settling on here is that maybe we can build a simple solution to this whole “wtf is this hash?” problem. yarnd already forms a sort-of “distributed network” amongst its peers and whilsts uses Twtxt (of course) is both decentralised and distributed. Nothing wrong with that. – I tried to build a search engine and crawler, but getting that resource efficient and useful is hard™.

So if we can have a small network of participating members of the community forming a “distributed network” of the Twtxt™ space, we can solve this problem quite easily. We could even put some GeoDNS routing in place and a single A record/domain to make things even easier. Let’s call it s “Registry Service” if you will :)

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In-reply-to » The other day, after a discussion online, we came to the conclusion that using awk+sed+tr could replace much of the development that requires a database. However, using SQLite to have a SQL syntax isn't a bad idea either. What do you think?

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev What a nice thing to say 🙇‍♂️

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In-reply-to » The other day, after a discussion online, we came to the conclusion that using awk+sed+tr could replace much of the development that requires a database. However, using SQLite to have a SQL syntax isn't a bad idea either. What do you think?

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Ita more so that with enough data you start to need an index

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In-reply-to » twtxt is a decentralised, minimalist microblogging service for hackers.

You’re all wrong 😑 @anth@a.9srv.net will happily tell you (hopefully) that we’ve been doing this whole “microblogging” / “status update” thing decades earlier than anything you’ve ever seen in the form of finger 🤣 and “plan” files 😅

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In-reply-to » The other day, after a discussion online, we came to the conclusion that using awk+sed+tr could replace much of the development that requires a database. However, using SQLite to have a SQL syntax isn't a bad idea either. What do you think?

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev I’m not entirely sure what this means:

development that requires a database

Obviously I wasn’t in the discussion so I feel like I’m missing some context here 🤔

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In-reply-to » @prologic We can't agree on this idea because that makes things even more complicated than it already is today. The beauty of twtxt is, you put one file on your server, done. One. Not five million. Granted, there might be archive feeds, so it might be already a bit more, but still faaaaaaar less than one file per message.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I also think we need to remove ourselves a bit from the “Twtxt” format as it was originally designed by Buckket.

The beauty of twtxt is, you put one file on your server, done. One.

I’m not talking (nor ever was here) about that. We should be allowed to and encourage dot evolve its usage and our own.

It would be far better as a community to focus on the utility of our tools, services, protocols, formats and specifications as well as our own clients and usages thereof rather than this “idealised” design from © 2016.

If you strongly disagree with this, then I think I’ll just honestly step away from all of this as the back ‘n forth on this whole “beaty” and “simplify” argument is honestly wearing me down 😢

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In-reply-to » One of the biggest gripes of the community with the way the threading model currently works with Twtxt v1.2 (https://twtxt.dev) is this notion of:

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Sorry I didn’t mean to upset you or anyone here in the community. I am/was merely trying to solve what I perceive to be a problem and an ask in the community:

How do I know what a hash refers to?

I believe the reason for this stems from a curiosity of the user of whether they might find that thread interesting or whether there are new interested feeds to follow?

Although my idea increases complexity slightly (introducing a new concept) I don’t think it’s particular hard to understand, reason about or implement (complicated). One could even even make the implementation quite simple in fact.

Either way, the idea of a service (cantralised) or participating clients/registries (distributed) providing reverse hash lookups doesn’t sound too bad really.

What do you propose to solve the above problem? 🤔

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One of the biggest gripes of the community with the way the threading model currently works with Twtxt v1.2 (https://twtxt.dev) is this notion of:

What is this hash?
What does it refer to?

Idea: Why can’t we all agree to implement a simple URI scheme where we host our Twtxt feeds?

That is, if you host your feed at https://example.com/twtxt.txt – Why can’t or could you not also host various JSON files (let’s agree on the spec of course) at https://example.com/twt/<hash> ? 🤔

That way we solve this problem in a truly decentralised way, rather than every relying on yarnd pods alone.

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So… Cylone Alfred made landfall (whatever that means) last night, and I watched it hit my wife’s Uncle/Aunt’s place on one of the outer islands, then move westwards and sort of fizzle out. It’s now been downgrade to a “Tropical Low” (I guess not good enough for a Cat X anymore?), but we’re still in the Eye of it, and there’s still a swirling mass of winds (just not as fast). Now we get to look forward to flooding 🤣

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In-reply-to » @eapl.me There are several points that I like, but I want to highlight number 7. https://text.eapl.mx/a-few-ideas-for-a-next-twtxt-version #twtxt

This seems to be capable of supporting edits as you noted. But I need to think a bit more (~2am here now) of whether this can be abused in any way… The advantage of Content-based Addressing (hashing the content) is that the hash is then immutable, meaning that we can have integrity that the hash actually represents that content from that author at that time.

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In-reply-to » @eapl.me There are several points that I like, but I want to highlight number 7. https://text.eapl.mx/a-few-ideas-for-a-next-twtxt-version #twtxt

# default_lang = en
# discovery_url = https://example.com/discovery/
# follow = alice https://example.com/alice.txt ABCDEF12
# follow = alice gemini://example.com/alice.txt
# avatar = https://example.com/avatar/alice.png
# avatar = gemini://example.com/avatar/alice.png

1	2025-03-03T15:00:00-04:00	{lang=en} Hello, world! Welcome to my twtxt feed. UTF-8 check: é, ö, ü.
2	2025-03-03T15:05:00-04:00	{lang=es} ¡Hola, mundo! This tweet is in Spanish.
3	2025-03-03T15:10:00-04:00	{url=ABCDEF12,id=1} Replying to tweet 1 using its URL hash.
4	2025-03-03T15:15:00-04:00	{edited=1} This tweet has been edited once.
5	2025-03-03T15:20:00-04:00	{lang=fr} Bonjour le monde! A French twt overriding the default language.
6	2025-03-03T15:25:00-04:00	Regular twt without metadata defaults to en.

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In-reply-to » (#oknfufq) @bmallred I forgot one more effect of edits. If clients remember the read status of massages by hash, an edit will mark the updated message as unread again. To some degree that is even the right behavior, because the message was updated, so the user might want to have a look at the updated version. On the other hand, if it's just a small typo fix, it's maybe not worth to tell the user about. But the client doesn't know, at least not with additional logic.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Clients could detest edits 🤞

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In-reply-to » These two degenerates … Fucking hell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ56ibIel1U

Remember any media outlet and even independent youtuber(s), etc, typically pick apart the bits they want to show and sensationalize things a bit 🤣 Yes there was a heated debate/argument, but it’s nowhere near as bad as some media outlets are making 🤦‍♂️ Also yes, JD is a hot head, Zelensky should have just shut up 😅

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In-reply-to » Zelenskyy can yell all he wants in the White House, but his game is up. Ukraine was never an independent player in this war—it was a pawn. A pawn used by Deep State actors in Washington to weaken Russia. And now that the war is lost, that pawn is being abandoned.

@off_grid_living@twtxt.net And yet… All of this nonsense is paid for the the people with taxes 🤦‍♂️

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In-reply-to » These two degenerates … Fucking hell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ56ibIel1U

I watched the full debate and yes, there was a heated argument in the last 10 minutes, but Trump pulled it back together calmly in the end. All three of them were complete asses Trump, JD and Zelinski.

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Idea: The entire world population email comments@whitehouse.gov with words of disdain 🤣 For example:

Dear Mr. President

Your behavior today was woeful. I am writing to ask you to resign immediately before you make things much worse.

Kind regards

Citizen of the World

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So I contact the Miramar Police West District Station just now to seek help in finding out if a business called Claro Enterprise Solutions located at 3350 SW 148th Ave #400, Miramar, FL 33027, Estados Unidos with phone number +19545177301 actually exists, is legit and to validate the phone number.

Why? Because someone or something from this ASN (network) is doing some stupid shit™ that I had to block at the ASN (entire network) level 🤬

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