gcr
thing running with debug logs enabled that print stuff like āsending secret exchange: ā¦ā? Is this healthy?)
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Looks like it. š¤ Didnāt dig deeper into this, just uninstalled it. š„“
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org 4 years. š«¤
Do I buy a new monitor or do I live with the burn-ins all the time? Itās getting annoying. When I edit images in GIMP, I have to double check if something is a pixel or a burn-in.
@prologic@twtxt.net If anything looks expensive, then itās that. š
Stuff that nobody needs:
systemctl uses ANSI escape codes to underline text (\e[4m
) and then it also uses special escape codes ā that Wikipedia classifies as ānot in the standardā, but I havenāt looked it up ā to change the color of the underline. That color change is barely noticeable in the first place.
Some terminals donāt support this and now my systemctl output is blinking because of that.
(Now why is that GNOME gcr
thing running with debug logs enabled that print stuff like āsending secret exchange: ā¦ā? Is this healthy?)
You know youāre getting old when thereās quite a few scripts in your ~/bin
that you use daily, but you havenāt edited them once in well over 10 years ā¦
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org āAdvancedā, well, probably more āmatureā. There arenāt a ton of crazy features and that icon thing is the largest code addition in the last 10 years. %)
Speaking of OS/2 ⦠I just realized that Windows 3.x didnāt have icons, either. If Iām not mistaken, this only got added in Windows 95. In other words, OS/2 had this feature before Windows did, because at least OS/2 2.1 from 1993 had icons. Who would have thunk.
(Now I kind of want to know which system really introduced this feature.)
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz dmenu is such a great tool. So simple, yet so versatile.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Oh, huh, maybe it was just my GNOME 2 themes back then that didnāt show the icon. š¤
I like the looks of your window manager. Thatās using Wayland, right?
Oh, no. Itās still X11. All my recent Wayland comments resulted from me trying to switch, but I think itās still too early. Being unable to use QEMU (because it canāt capture the mouse pointer) is a pretty big blocker for me. This is completely broken, it just happens to be unnoticeable with modern guest OSes, so itās probably not a priority for devs.
(Not to mention that I would have to fork and substantially extend dwl in order to āreplicateā my X11 WM. And then, after having done that, Iād have to follow upstream Wayland development, for which I donāt have the resources. Things would need to slow down before I can do that.)
all that wasted space of the windows not making use of the full screen!!!1
Heh. Iāve been using tiling WMs for ~15 years now, so itās actually kind of refreshing to see something different for a change. š
Probably close to the older Windowses.
That particular theme is a ripoff of OS/2 Warp 3: https://movq.de/v/6c2a948882/s.png š
We ran some similar brownish color scheme (donāt recall its name) on Win95 or Win98
Oh god. Yeah, I wasnāt a fan of those, either. š„“
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org True, at least old versions of KDE had icons:
https://movq.de/v/0e4af6fea1/s.png
GNOME, on the other hand, didnāt, at least to my old screenshots from 2007:
https://www.uninformativ.de/desktop/2007%2D05%2D25%2D%2Dgnome2%2Dlaptop.png
I switched to Linux in 2007 and no window manager I used since then had icons, apparently. Crazy. An icon-less existence for 18 years. (But yeah, everything is keyboard-driven here as well and there are no buttons here, either.)
Anyway, my draft is making progress:
https://movq.de/v/5b7767f245/s.png
I do like this look. š
Hereās an example of X11/Xlib being old and archaic.
X11 knows the data type ācardinalā. For example, the window property _NET_WM_ICON
(which holds image data for icons) is an array of ācardinalā. I am already not really familiar with that word and Iām assuming that it comes from mathematics:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_number
(It could also be a bird, but probably not: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinalidae)
We would probably call this an āintegerā today.
EWMH says that icons are arrays of cardinals and that theyāre 32-bit numbers:
https://specifications.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/latest-single/#id-1.6.13
So itās something like 0x11223344
with 0x11
being the alpha channel, 0x22
is red, and so on.
You would assume that, when you retrieve such an array from the X11 server, youād get an array of uint32_t
, right?
Nope.
Xlib is so old, they use char
for 8-bit stuff, short int
for 16-bit, and long int
for 32-bit:
That is congruent with the general C data types, so it does make sense:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_data_types
Now the funny thing is, on modern x86_64
, the type long int
is actually 64 bits wide.
The result is that every pixel in a Pixmap, for example, is twice as large in memory as it would need to be. Just because Xlib uses long int
, because uint32_t
didnāt exist, yet.
And this is something that I wouldnāt know how to fix without breaking clients.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org So it might just be what the youngsters call a āskill issueā? š
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org They are optional dependencies and listed as such:
$ pacman -Qi pinentry
Name : pinentry
Version : 1.3.1-5
Description : Collection of simple PIN or passphrase entry dialogs which
utilize the Assuan protocol
Optional Deps : gcr: GNOME backend [installed]
gtk3: GTK backend [installed]
qt5-x11extras: Qt5 backend [installed]
kwayland5: Qt5 backend
kguiaddons: Qt6 backend
kwindowsystem: Qt6 backend
And itās probably a good thing that theyāre optional. I wouldnāt want to have all that installed all the time.
I was drafting support for showing āapplication iconsā in my window manager, i.e. the Firefox icon in the titlebar:
https://movq.de/v/0034cc1384/s.png
Then I realized: Wait a minute, lots of applications donāt set an icon? And lots of other window managers donāt show these icons, either? Openbox, pekwm, Xfce, fvwm, no icons.
Looks like macOS doesnāt show them, either?!
Has this grown out of fashion? Is this purely a Windows / OS/2 thing?
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org @kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I spent so much time in the past figuring out if something is a dict or a list in YAML, for example.
What are the types in this example?
items:
- part_no: A4786
descrip: Water Bucket (Filled)
price: 1.47
quantity: 4
- part_no: E1628
descrip: High Heeled "Ruby" Slippers
size: 8
price: 133.7
quantity: 1
items
is a dict containing ⦠a list of two other dicts? Right?
It is quite hard for me to grasp the structure of YAML docs. š¢
The big advantage of YAML (and JSON and TOML) is that itās much easier to write code for those formats, than it is with XML. json.loads()
and youāre done.
/short/
if it's of this useless kind. Never thought that they ever actually will improve their Atom feeds. Thank you, much appreciated!
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I might need that script as well. šš
Only figured this out yesterday:
pinentry
, which is used to safely enter a password on Linux, has several frontends. Thereās a GTK one, a Qt one, even an ncurses one, and so on.
GnuPG also uses pinentry
. And you can configure your frontend of choice here in gpg-agent.conf
.
But what happens when you donāt configure it? Whatās the default?
Turns out, pinentry
is a shellscript wrapper and itās not even that long. Here it is in full:
#!/bin/bash
# Run user-defined and site-defined pre-exec hooks.
[[ -r "${XDG_CONFIG_HOME:-$HOME/.config}"/pinentry/preexec ]] && \
. "${XDG_CONFIG_HOME:-$HOME/.config}"/pinentry/preexec
[[ -r /etc/pinentry/preexec ]] && . /etc/pinentry/preexec
# Guess preferred backend based on environment.
backends=(curses tty)
if [[ -n "$DISPLAY" || -n "$WAYLAND_DISPLAY" ]]; then
case "$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP" in
KDE|LXQT|LXQt)
backends=(qt qt5 gnome3 gtk curses tty)
;;
*)
backends=(gnome3 gtk qt qt5 curses tty)
;;
esac
fi
for backend in "${backends[@]}"
do
lddout=$(ldd "/usr/bin/pinentry-$backend" 2>/dev/null) || continue
[[ "$lddout" == *'not found'* ]] && continue
exec "/usr/bin/pinentry-$backend" "$@"
done
exit 1
Preexec, okay, then some auto-detection to use a toolkit matching your desktop environment ā¦
⦠and then it invokes ldd
? To find out if all the required libraries are installed for the auto-detected frontend?
Oof. I was sitting here wondering why it would use pinentry-gtk
on one machine and pinentry-gnome3
on another, when both machines had the exact same configs. Yeah, but different libraries were installed. One machine was missing gcr
, which is needed for pinentry-gnome3
, so that machine (and that one alone) spawned pinentry-gtk
ā¦
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org The cynic in me says: āItās not bleeding edge, itās from 2008!ā Thatās not fair, though, looks like the issue only arose in libinput in 2019. And maybe these weird mice are super rare. Dunno.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org The underlines are a bit much, yes. It appears to be related to my font (Helvetica) ⦠Maybe they do some Unicode trickery these days, I donāt know. š«¤
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Whatās bleeding edge? The mouse? Yeah, maybe. š I didnāt buy that on purpose and didnāt even know hi-res mouse wheels were a thing ā¦
Since Wayland compositors handle input devices on a lower level than X11 window managers, every compositor has to figure out on their own what a āmouse wheel clickā is:
(I think āWayland compositorā is a misnomer. They are full-blown display servers that also do compositing, plus Wayland window management, plus X11 window management.)
One can only hope that all this eventually gets moved into the wlroots library. (Iām not sure if thatās possible, nor if people would want that.)
I wore a Kubernetes shirt, in public, by accident, and now I feel dirty and ashamed. š¢
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I kind of like XML because itās mostly well-defined and easy for humans to read (unlike YAML, which is a complete mess, imho) ⦠and at the same time, it can get complicated really fast. 𫤠But at least itās plain-text ā thatās the important part in this case. š
Xfce does one thing very right: It stores its settings in plain-text XML files. This allows me to easily read, track, and maybe even distribute these settings to other machines.
(Unlike GNOMEās dconf, which uses some binary file format. Fun fact: The older and now deprecated gconf also used XML files.)
Nuke it from orbit: https://www.aaron.ai/
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, the doctors have started using AI voice agents and they understand jack shit. ššš
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Hm, I donāt think so, the requested page was a Linux-specific post. š¤ I sometimes wonder if privacy-oriented browsers might do this on purpose, to create garbage data? š¤ No idea.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I honestly wish I could do more than just sit here and wait. Itās just a matter of time until they remove X.Org from the repos. 𫤠But I really canāt dedicate so much time to this ā¦
I give up.
Letās try again next year. I donāt have the stamina. Death by a thousand paper cuts.
Canāt set up a meaningful taskbar: https://github.com/labwc/labwc/discussions/2924 (This is not a labwc issue, itās a generic issue in the broader Wayland ecosystem.)
HTTP referrers are quite broken, arenāt they?
Because of that recent storm on my blog, I had a peek at them. Thereās a lot of garbage in there. For example, https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/disks-virtual.html is supposed to refer to one of my blog posts ā¦
Whatās going on here?
@bender@twtxt.net Even I donāt believe in that anymore. :ā(
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Donāt remind me about Morse. I really wanted to learn that and tried so for quite a while, but no success. š¢
@aelaraji@aelaraji.com And I read the following funny response to that:
Bluesky: Users verify their age by adding a payment method or uploading a photo ID.
Mastodon: Users verify their age by posting pictures of the vintage computer equipment in their homes.
https://beige.party/@maxleibman/114848276288629121
š
AI this, AI that.
Tech is no longer interesting. I need to find a new field.
(⦠maybe followed by ātmux Thursdayā to cool down ā¦)
Thinking about doing āWayland Wednesdayā. Only use Wayland every Wednesday. Collect bugs, report bugs, fix bugs.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org 06.jpg is quite funny. Block the road for 30 minutes! %)
@bender@twtxt.net Hm, it is now. š¤ I should have made a screenshot when I first saw it.
setpriv
on Linux supports Landlock.
@prologic@twtxt.net Yeah, itās not a strong sandbox in jennyās case, it could still read my SSH private key (in case of an exploit of some sort). But I still like it.
I think my main takeaway is this: Knowing that technologies like Landlock/pledge/unveil exist and knowing that they are very easy to use, will probably nudge me into writing software differently in the future.
jenny was never meant to be sandboxed, so it canāt make great use of it. Future software might be different.
(And this is finally a strong argument for static linking.)
Looks like hereās something wrong with Markdown parsing. š¤ The original twt looks like this:
>This extension was turned off because it is no longer supported
Thanks Google.
This browser was uninstalled because it absolutely sucks!
So only the first line should be a quote.
setpriv
on Linux supports Landlock.
Landlock is still young and a bit unpolished, but itās slowly getting more popular. š„³
setpriv
on Linux supports Landlock.
Another example:
$ setpriv \
--landlock-access fs \
--landlock-rule path-beneath:execute,read-file:/bin/ls-static \
--landlock-rule path-beneath:read-dir:/tmp \
/bin/ls-static /tmp/tmp/xorg.atom
The first argument --landlock-access fs
says that nothing is allowed.
--landlock-rule path-beneath:execute,read-file:/bin/ls-static
says that reading and executing that file is allowed. Itās a statically linked ls
program (not GNU ls).
--landlock-rule path-beneath:read-dir:/tmp
says that reading the /tmp
directory and everything below it is allowed.
The output of the ls-static
program is this line:
ārwārāārāāāāx 3000 200 07-12 09:19 22'491 ā /tmp/tmp/xorg.atom
It was able to read the directory, see the file, do stat()
on it and everything, the little x
indicates that getting xattrs also worked.
3000
and 200
are user name and group name ā they are shown as numeric, because the program does not have access to /etc/passwd
and /etc/group
.
Adding --landlock-rule path-beneath:read-file:/etc/passwd
, for example, allows resolving users and yields this:
ārwārāārāāāāx cathy 200 07-12 09:19 22'491 ā /tmp/tmp/xorg.atom
PSA: setpriv
on Linux supports Landlock.
If this twt goes through, then restricting the filesystem so that jenny can only write to ~/Mail/twt
, ~/www/twtxt.txt
, ~/.jenny-cache
, and /tmp
works.
st tries not to redraw immediately after new data arrives:
https://git.suckless.org/st/file/x.c.html#l1984
The exact timings are configurable.
This is the PR that changed the timing in VTE recently (2023):
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/vte/-/issues/2678
There is a long discussion. Itās not a trivial problem, especially not in the context of GTK and multiple competing terminal widgets. st dodges all these issues (for various reasons).
Something happened with the frame rate of terminal emulators lately. It looks like thereās a trend to run at a high framerate now? Iām not sure exactly. This can be seen in VTE-based terminals like my xiate or XTerm on Wayland. foot and st, on the other hand, are fine.
My shell prompt and cursor look like this:
$ ā
When I keep Enter pressed, I expect to see several lines like so:
$
$
$
$
$
$
$ ā
With the affected terminal emulators, the lines actually show up in the following sequence. First, we have the original line:
$ ā
Pressing Enter yields this as the next frame:
$
ā
And then eventually this:
$
$ ā
In other words, you can see the cursor jumping around very quickly, all the time.
Another example: Vim actually shows which key you just pressed in the bottom right corner. Keeping j
pressed to scroll through a file means I get to see a j
flashing rapidly now.
(I have no idea yet, why exactly XTerm in X11 is fine but flickering in Wayland.)
The WM_CLASS
Property is used on X11 to assign rules to certain windows, e.g. āthis is a GIMP window, it should appear on workspace number 16.ā It consists of two fields, name
and class
.
Wayland (or rather, the XDG shell protocol ā core Wayland knows nothing about this) only has a single field called app_id
.
When you run X11 programs under Wayland, you use XWayland, which is baked into most compositors. Then you have to deal with all three fields.
Some compositors map name
to app_id
, others map class
to app_id
, and even others directly expose the original name
and class
.
Apparently, there is no consensus.
Yeah, little fellow. I also just want to walk away. https://movq.de/v/bef8c35f01/ach.mp4
āš«©ā is my new favorite emoji.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Yeah, if thereās no stable API, then itās not a lot of fun ⦠Bah. :|
⦠but you canāt set SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland
globally, because that breaks Wine again ā¦
⦠okay, the SDL backend works if you also set SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland
.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org dmenu is a great example.
There have been several attempts at porting dmenu from X11 to Wayland. Well, not exactly āportingā it, more like rewriting it from scratch. Turns out: Itās not that easy.
dmenu is super fast and reliable. None of the Wayland rewrites are (at least none of the popular ones that I know of). They are either bloated and/or slow.
It takes a lot of discipline and restraint to write simple software and not blow up the codebase. This is much harder than people think. Itās a form of art, really.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I do my timetracking in a little Python script, locally. Every now and then, I push the data to our actual service. Problem solved ā but itās a completely unpopular approach, they all want to use the web site. I donāt get it. Then, of course, when itās down, shit hits the fan. (Luckily, our timetracking software is neither developed nor run by us anymore. Itās a silly cloud service, but the upside is that Iām not responsible anymore. š¤·)
Some of our oldschool devs tried to roll out local timetracking once, about 15 years ago. I donāt remember anymore why they failed ā¦
This is developed inhouse, Iām just so glad that weāre not a software engineering company. Oh wait. How embarrassing.
Oh to be anonymous on the internet. That must be nice. š
⦠but the SDL backend is broken as well, albeit differently ā¦
⦠which is probably a GTK bug.
QEMU on Wayland unusable, because it canāt grab the mouse ⦠Iāll add it to my TODO list and investigate/report it eventually.
@prologic@twtxt.net Yeah, this really could use a proper definition or a āmanifestā. š Many of these ideas are not very wide spread. And I havenāt come across similar projects in all these years.
Letās take the farbfeld image format as an example again. I think this captures the āspiritā quite well, because this isnāt even about code.
This is the entire farbfeld spec:
farbfeld is a lossless image format which is easy to parse, pipe and compress. It has the following format:
āāāāāāāāāā¤āāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāā
ā Bytes ā Description ā
ā āāāāāāāāāŖāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāā£
ā 8 ā "farbfeld" magic value ā
āāāāāāāāāā¼āāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāā¢
ā 4 ā 32-Bit BE unsigned integer (width) ā
āāāāāāāāāā¼āāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāā¢
ā 4 ā 32-Bit BE unsigned integer (height) ā
āāāāāāāāāā¼āāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāā¢
ā [2222] ā 4x16-Bit BE unsigned integers [RGBA] / pixel, row-major ā
āāāāāāāāāā§āāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāāā
The RGB-data should be sRGB for best interoperability and not alpha-premultiplied.
(Now, I donāt know if your screen reader can work with this. Let me know if it doesnāt.)
I think these are some of the properties worth mentioning:
- The spec is extremely short. You can read this in under a minute and fully understand it. That alone is gold.
- There are no āknobsā: Itās just a single version, itās not like thereās also an 8-bit color depth version and one for 16-bit and one for extra large images and one that supports layers and so on. This makes it much easier to implement a fully compliant program.
- Despite being so simple, itās useful. Iāve used it in various programs, like my window manager, my status bars, some toy programs like ātuxeyesā (an Xeyes variant), or Advent of Code.
- The format does not include compression because it doesnāt need to. Just use something like bzip2 to get file sizes similar to PNG.
- It doesnāt cover every use case under the sun, but it does cover the most important ones (imho). They have discussed using something other than RGBA and decided itās not worth the trouble.
- They refrained from adding extra baggage like metadata. It would have needlessly complicated things.
@prologic@twtxt.net Hm, I wouldnāt say that. Go code could fall into that category as well.
Maybe this topic could use a blog post / article, that explains what itās about. Iām finding it hard to really define what āsuckless-like softwareā is. š¤ (Their own philosophy focuses too much on elitism, if you ask me.)
@prologic@twtxt.net Ah, Iām referring to software thatās similar to that of suckless.org: Small, minimal codebases, small tools, but still useful. dmenu is probably the best example and also farbfeld.
Hereās the author of Anubis talking about some of their experiences:
https://xeiaso.net/blog/why-i-use-suckless-tools-2020-06-05/
(You can skip the long config and keybinds part.)
The lack of suckless-like simple, hackable software these days is appalling.
The Linux installation on my main PC turned 14 today:
$ head -n 1 /var/log/pacman.log
[2011-07-07 11:19] installed filesystem (2011.04-1)
@eldersnake@we.loveprivacy.club This wasnāt always the case, though. Quake3, Quake4, Unreal Tournament 99 and 2004 are examples of games that used to run very well as native Linux games. But that was 20+ years ago ā¦
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org (Itās either that, or the fact that itās womenās football and ānobody wants to see that anywayā.)
In all fairness, GOG says that Forsaken is only supported on Ubuntu 16.04 ā not current Arch Linux. If you ask me, this just goes to show that Linux is not a good platform for proprietary binary software.
Is it free software, do you have the source code? Then youāre good to go, things can be patched/updated (that can still be a lot of work). But proprietary binary blobs? Very bad idea.
I bought the āremasteredā versions of Grim Fandango and Forsaken on GOG, because theyāre super cheap at the moment. Both have native Linux versions.
And both these Linux version crap their pants. 𫤠The bundled SDL2 of Forsaken says it ācanāt find a matching GLX visualā and I couldnāt figure out how to fix that. I didnāt spend a lot of time on Grim Fandango.
Both work great in Wine. š¤¦
(I do have the original version of Grim Fandango from the 1990ies, but that one does not work so well in Wine. I figured, if itās so cheap, why not. And I now get to play the english version. š The german dub is pretty damn good, actually, but I always prefer the original these days.)
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I have to say, this sounds much worse than our stuff at work. š«© (We donāt use any Microsoft services, at least not for core tools.)
Okay, now this is a very interesting Rust feature:
https://blog.rust-lang.org/2025/07/03/stabilizing-naked-functions/
This (and inline assembly) makes Rust really interesting for very low-level stuff. š„³
It took about a year, I think, but Iāve now finished another run of Tomb Raider I, II, and III. And I have, for the first time, played the two bonus packs āUnfinished Businessā (for TR I) and āGolden Maskā (for TR II). Theyāre available as a free download, if you have the original games. (The bonus pack for TR III is not free.)
I just love these games ā and the game mechanics. Itās just the right balance between challenging and relaxing.
What kind of half-assed nonsense is this? They only broadcast half of the current european soccer cup ⦠(Let me guess, Iām supposed to subscribe to some streaming service if I want to watch every game, right?)
This aggressive auto-logout on my bankās website ā¦
Dude, you want me to print something, sign it, and scan it back in. This takes forever and Iāll have to re-login a dozen times. Narf.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Uffpuh. Es Wetter spielt verrückt. š«¤
@prologic@twtxt.net That too, yeah. š„“š©
@prologic@twtxt.net Bah! Why canāt we all have mild weather. š„²
Is des Ƥni Hitz!
@aelaraji@aelaraji.com Yay, heat. š«
TIL: The logo of sudo
is a sandwich. š« https://www.sudo.ws/
Ted Unangstās snarky (and entertaining) remarks this month:
These are lists in your Inkscape example, right?
The font stuff? Yeah, thatās a scrollable list where you can select the current font.
Someone did a thing:
https://social.treehouse.systems/@ariadne/114763322251054485
Iāve been silently wondering all the time if this was possible, but never investigated: Keep doing X11 but use Wayland as a backend.
This uses XWaylandās ārootfulā mode, which basically just gives you a normal Wayland window with all the X11 stuff happening inside of it:
https://www.phoronix.com/news/XWayland-Rootful-Useful
In other words, put such a window in fullscreen and you (more or less) have good old X11 running in a Wayland window.
(For me, personally, this wonāt be the way forward. But itās a very interesting project.)
@prologic@twtxt.net Heyho, welcome back. š Did you guys have a nice trip? š
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Probably. :-) I just saw that the account on Yarn is also gone. Maybe it didnāt survive the crash earlier this year.
Just realized: One of the reasons why I donāt like āflat UIsā is that they look broken to me. Like the program has a bug, missing pixmaps or whatever.
Take this for example:
https://movq.de/v/8822afccf0/a.png
Iām talking about this area specifically:
https://movq.de/v/8822afccf0/a%2Dhigh.png
One UI element ends and the other one begins ā no ātransitionā between them.
The style of old UIs like these two is deeply ingrained into my brain:
https://movq.de/v/8822afccf0/b.png
https://movq.de/v/8822afccf0/c.png
When all these little elements (borders, handles, even just simple lines, ā¦) are no longer present, then the program looks buggy and broken to me. And Iām not sure if Iāll ever be able to un-learn that.
Alright, now for something fun! Taxes! Yay!
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Wow. Just like Skyrim! š
@mckinley@mckinley.ccās blog appears to have gone stale, hm.
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Oh dear. š©
@arne@uplegger.eu Stattdessen rutscht er seitlich vom Tisch? š¤Ŗ
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I can confidently say that I donāt remember ever having seen fireflys. (Nor Firefly.) š³ Iām most surprised that you could count them. Naively, I would assume that these guys move around a lot and youād lose track of them?
Weāre entering the ātoo hot to thinkā-season in 3, 2, 1 ⦠and weāre live!
Welcome to the family, Puffy. š„³š”
Theyāre all talks, not real hands-on trainings like you did.
I love listening to good, well-structured talks. Problem is, not everybody is a good speaker and many screw it up. š„“ Iām certainly not a great speaker, which is why I gravitate more towards āworkshopsā, in the hopes that people ask questions and discussions arise. Doesnāt always work out. 𤣠At the very least, I almost always have some other person connect to the projector/beamer/screenshare and then they do the stuff ā this avoids me being wwwwaaaaaaaaayyyy too fast.
We are usually drowned in stress and tight deadlines, hence events like today are super rare ⦠We used to do it more often until ~10 years ago.
Once a year the security guys organize a really great hacking event, though.
Oh dear, Iād love to participate in that. 𤯠That sounds like a lot of fun. (Why donāt we do this?!)
@prologic@twtxt.net This person isnāt particularly happy with this study:
https://mastodon.social/@grimalkina/114717549619229029
I donāt know enough about these things to form an opinion. 𫤠I sure wish it was true, though. š
I did a ālectureā/āworkshopā about this at work today. 16-bit DOS, real mode. š¾ Pretty cool and the audience (devs and sysadmins) seemed quite interested. š„³
- People used the Intel docs to figure out the instruction encodings.
- Then they wrote a little DOS program that exits with a return code and they used uhex in DOSBox to do that. Yes, we wrote a COM file manually, no Assembler involved. (Many of them had never used DOS before.)
- DEBUG from FreeDOS was used to single-step through the program, showing what it does.
- This gets tedious rather quickly, so we switched to SVED from SvarDOS for writing the rest of the program in Assembly language. nasm worked great for us.
- At the end, we switched to BIOS calls instead of DOS syscalls to demonstrate that the same binary COM file works on another OS. Also a good opportunity to talk about bootloaders a little bit.
- (I think they even understood the basics of segmentation in the end.)
The 8086 / 16-bit real-mode DOS is a great platform to explain a lot of the fundamentals without having to deal with OS semantics or executable file formats.
Now that was a lot of fun. š„³ Itās very rare that we do something like this, sadly. I love doing this kind of low-level stuff.
pledge()
and unveil()
syscalls:
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Multi-Threading. Is. Hard. 𤯠And yes, that blog is great. š
Option
and error handling. (Or the more complex Result
, but itās easier to explain with Option
.)
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org lol ā I explicitly kept them in there so that the code is easier to understand for non-Rust people š¤Ŗš
Option
and error handling. (Or the more complex Result
, but itās easier to explain with Option
.)
@prologic@twtxt.net Iād say: Yes, because in Go itās easier to ignore errors.
Weāre talking about this pattern, right?
f, err := os.Open("filename.ext")
if err != nil {
log.Fatal(err)
}
Nothing stops you from leaving out the if
, right? š¤
(Of course, if weāre talking about a project youāre doing for a customer and the customer keeps asking for new stuff, then youāre never done, and you have to think ahead and expect changes. Is that what they mean? š¤)
Saw this on Mastodon:
https://racingbunny.com/@mookie/114718466149264471
18 rules of Software Engineering
- You will regret complexity when on-call
- Stop falling in love with your own code
- Everything is a trade-off. Thereās no ābestā 3. Every line of code you write is a liability 4. Document your decisions and designs
- Everyone hates code they didnāt write
- Donāt use unnecessary dependencies
- Coding standards prevent arguments
- Write meaningful commit messages
- Donāt ever stop learning new things
- Code reviews spread knowledge
- Always build for maintainability
- Ask for help when youāre stuck
- Fix root causes, not symptoms
- Software is never completed
- Estimates are not promises
- Ship early, iterate often
- Keep. It. Simple.
Solid list, even though 14 is up for debate in my opinion: Software can be completed. You have a use case / problem, you solve that problem, done. Your software is completed now. There might still be bugs and they should be fixed ā but this doesnāt āaddā to the program. Donāt use āsoftware is never doneā as an excuse to keep adding and adding stuff to your code.