@bender@twtxt.net I believe that’s the only way. We’ll deal with it as it comes up I think.
@bender@twtxt.net I can fix and make that work in the parser too. But I’m no longer sure how to cater for the general case. It’s too much to support all punctuation whilst at the same time as other contradicting rules. For example you cannot both support .
in nicknames and then expect to be able to to end a mention with a .
🤦♂️
.
(period) in their # nick
🤣 tbh I think nick(s) should have rules of what they can and cannot be comprised of. i.e: no punctuation 🤦♂️
@bender@twtxt.net Yes I know 🤣 It’s okay, we just have to build better parsers 😅
@abucci@anthony.buc.ci totally my fault sorry 😞
@bender@twtxt.net LOL 😂
There are 5 of such “Twters” on this pod that have periods in their nick 😢
sqlite> select count(distinct(nick)) from twters where nick like '%.%';
count(distinct(nick)) = 5
sqlite> select distinct(nick) from twters where nick like '%.%';
nick = @marado@ciberlandia.pt
nick = eapl.me
nick = eapl.mx
nick = grumpygordie.great-site.net
nick = @chyrp.doesnm.cc
I’ll see if I can fix this and write a test case for what’s going on here. I think this is made difficult now because folks like @eapl.me@eapl.me decide that it’s okay to have a .
(period) in their # nick
🤣 tbh I think nick(s) should have rules of what they can and cannot be comprised of. i.e: no punctuation 🤦♂️
Whereas @movq@www.uninformativ.de @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org and @bender@twtxt.net are all cool 😎
That’s kind of weird actually. Hmmm @movq,@twtxt.net @lyse,@twtxt.net and @bender@twtxt.net are all cool 😎
@bender@twtxt.net This story just reminds me of the couple of times we’ve paid for things in cash 💰 💲 and the stupid banks with the ridiculous “scam alert policy” ask you all kind of dumb ass questions about what you need the cash for 🤦♂️ One of these days I need an excuse to buy something that costs a few $k just so I can answer when asked, “what do you need the cash for?” to which my response will be “drugs and hookers of course!” 🤣
@bender@twtxt.net Sounds good to me! Done ✅ Also you did some, so thanks! 🙏
@doesnm.p.psf.lt@doesnm.p.psf.lt Remind me alter 🙏
@doesnm.p.psf.lt@doesnm.p.psf.lt Because I’m a lazy project manage and I haven’t grooomed the backlog in a while 🤣 Since you’re there, do you mind cleaning it up for me? 🙏
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz creating habits or rituals as hard, dropping ones that you no longer need or considered harmful is even harder! Good luck! 🙏
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz That’s what she said 🤣
Responded to a bunch of Twtxt open issues across multiple repositories today 👌
@bender@twtxt.net You said:
as long as those working on clients can reach an agreement on how to move forward. That has proven, though, to be a pickle in the past.
I think this is because we probably need to start thinking about three different aspects to the ecosystem and document them out:
- Specifications (as they are now)
- Server recommendations (e.g: Timeline, yarnd, etc)
- Client recommendations (e.g: jenny, tt, tt2, twet, etc)
@bender@twtxt.net wut?! Who carries three grand worth of cash in their handbag?! 👜 Haha 😆
@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Bahahaha so do it all the time 🤣
dm-only.txt
feeds. 😂
@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Some good points here that I share and empathize with 🙌
@bender@twtxt.net I see hmmm 🧐
@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Zulu said:
what is twtxt for you?
For me Twtxt is just the underlying format that Yarn.social builds upon 😅
@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Ahh cool! I’ll try following it again 🤣 Mind @-mentioning/linking@twtxt.net the feed again? 🙏
Also what’s a, who’s the Pope? 😅
@quark@ferengi.one I know! I saw three Hacker News posts on it in a row 🤣
@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Haha 🤣 We’ve explored this idea in the past and we decided that it’s actually a good idea to have an “append-only” feed for various reasons. We’ve also explored the idea of using Range
requests, but opted instead to just archive/rotate our feeds periodically 😅 There really isn’t much point in having a feed in reverse chronological order, except (maybe?) so a human read view the new twts at the top of the file?! 🤣
@bender@twtxt.net This is just a website that cycles through random Youtube channels? 🤔
I guess mentions with .
(s) / dot(s) like @eapl.me@eapl.me are valid? 🤔 Or nicks even? 🤔
Fark Youtube is so utterly boring 🥱
@bender@twtxt.net Ahh yes you caught me 🤣
@bender@twtxt.net Not copy/paste 🤣 Hand on heart! ❤️ However it was a pretty nice article 😅
Getting Forked by Microsoft • Philip Laine 👈 Yet another pretty sad story of a megacorp (Microsoft) being total assholes 😢
Regex Isn’t Hard - Tim Kellogg 👈 this is a pretty good conscience article on regexes, and I agree, regex isn’t that hard™ – However I think I can make the TL;DR even shorter 😅
Regex core subset (portable across languages):
Character sets
• a matches “a”
• [a-z] any lowercase
• [a-zA-Z0-9] alphanumeric
• [^ab] any char but a or b
Repetition (applies to the preceding atom)
• ? zero or one
• * zero or more
• + one or more
Groups
• (ab)+ matches “ab”, “abab”, …
• Capture for extract/substitute via $1 or \1
Operators
• foo|bar = foo or bar
• ^ start anchor
• $ end anchor
Ignore non‑portable shortcuts: \w, ., {n}, *?, lookarounds.
@bender@twtxt.net No worries 😉
There we go. Restored all the old settings 👌
@bender@twtxt.net Lemme look at the old backup…
I am up to increase the length of a twtxt, though.
Recall what we had this set to for this pod? 🧐
@bender@twtxt.net Really? Wow! 😂
yarnd
UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as "client" features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:
@bender@twtxt.net Hah 🤣
Just had a freak storm ⛈️ with lots of horizontal rain ☔️ that took out and tripped our internal RCD (again) 😱 Took out our Fibre too (servers were fine, good ‘ol UPS). Need to get a UPS for the Fibre box 📦 Haha 🤣
@movq@www.uninformativ.de So cool! 😎 Where’s the time lapse video you used to have of this tree? 🌳 Hmm 🧐
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah I know 🤣 I found another bug in lextwt 🤦♂️ This whole DM / bang-mention thingy has thrown a spanner in the works 🔧 – Even if I wanted to implement it, I’m not even ready to try at the moment 😢
yarnd
UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as "client" features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:
@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz (as I was trying to say…), Glad you think so👌 My goal with Yarn.social has always been to provide the best (best that I can anyway) truly decentralised (slow) social experience that uses the Twtxt format under the hood 😅
@xuu@txt.sour.is As I also mentioend on IRC I think this is a. bug?
Holy hell?! When I post this:
@<kate https://yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz/user/kat/twtxt.txt> Glad you think so! 👌 My goal with Yarn.social has always been to provide the best (_best that I can anyway!_) truly decentralised (_slow_) social experience that uses the Twtxt format under the hood 😅
Something is swallowing it.
@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Glad you think so! 👌 My goal with Yarn.social has always been to provide the best (best that I can anyway!) truly decentralised (slow) social experience that uses the Twtxt format under the hood 😅
What if I do this…
Nope hmmm
What about here?
Okay they’re not here…
Why are my replies getting swallowed?! 🤔
yarnd
UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as "client" features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:
Glad you think so! 👌 My goal with Yarn.social has always been to provide the best (best that I can anyway!) truly decentralised (slow) social experience that uses the Twtxt format under the hood 😅
yarnd
UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as "client" features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:
@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Glad you think so! 👌 My goal with Yarn.social has always been to provide the best (best that I can anyway!) truly decentralised (slow) social experience that uses the Twtxt format under the hood 😅
yarnd
UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as "client" features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:
Hmmm?
Hmmm?
yarnd
UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as "client" features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:
@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Glad you think so! 👌 My goal with Yarn.social has always been to provide the best (best that I can anyway!) truly decentralised (slow) social experience that uses the Twtxt format under the hood 😅
yarnd
UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as "client" features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:
This expands the usefulness of Twtxt / Yarn.social to:
- Sharing small posts
- Sharing links
- Sharing media
- Having long conversations
- Voting on topics, opinions or decisions
- RSVPing to virtual or physical events
yarnd
UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as "client" features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:
The nice thing here is that any Ui/UX rendering for a “good user experience” is similar to what yarnd
does for Youtube/Spotify/whatever embedding. Plus anyone can participate, even if they don’t really have a client that understand it, it’s just text with some “syntax” afterall.
#event:abc123 RSVP: yes +1
yarnd
UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as "client" features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:
#event:abc123 Go Meetup – Sat Apr 27, 3pm @ Darling Harbour
#poll:xyz123 Vote: None
yarnd
UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as "client" features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:
#poll:xyz123 Favorite Go framework?
- Gin
- Echo
- Chi
yarnd
UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as "client" features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:
I’d have to write i up in full, but essentially looks a bit like this (contribived examples follow)…
💡 I had this crazy idea (or is it?) last night while thinking about Twtxt and Yarn.social 😅 There are two things I think that could be really useful additions to the yarnd
UI/UX experience (for those that use it) and as “client” features (not spec changes). The two ideas are quite simple:
- Voting – a way to cast, collect a vote on a decision, topic or opinion.
- RSVP – a way to “rsvp” to a virtual (pr physical) event.
Both would use “plain text” on top of the way we already use Twtxt today and clients would render an appropriate UI/UX.
@bender@twtxt.net I think I could, but I haven’t bothered to do so yet… I’ll try that out later…
irc.mills.io
running behind Caddy Layer 4. However I don't terminate TLS at the edge in this case.
@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz You’re welcome 😇
http://
only and to keep hashes from breaking i added # url = http://...
and now we are stock with it due to the curret specs.
@bender@twtxt.net Hehe, thanks for fixing this (was) broken thread 🧵 Haha 🤣
MaxAgeDays
configuration at the pod level, that now some profiles are rather empty. This is only because well, they're a bit "inactive" so to speak 🗣️ Not sure what to do about this at the moment... Open to ideas? 💡
@sorenpeter@darch.dk I really think you should fix the # url
in your feed to be https://
😅
irc.mills.io
running behind Caddy Layer 4. However I don't terminate TLS at the edge in this case.
@bender@twtxt.net Sure! 👍
{
...
# Layer 4 Reverse Proxy
layer4 {
# Gopher
0.0.0.0:70 {
route {
proxy <internal_ip>:70
}
}
# IRC (TLS)
0.0.0.0:6697 {
route {
proxy <internal_ip>:6697
}
}
}
}
Am I the only one that’s confused by the discussions, and then the voting we had on the whole threading model? 🤔 I’m not even sure what I voted for, but I know it wasn’t the one that won haha 🤣 (which I’m still very much against for based on an intuition, experience and lots of code writing lately).
@xuu@txt.sour.is Good point! 🤣
MaxAgeDays
configuration at the pod level, that now some profiles are rather empty. This is only because well, they're a bit "inactive" so to speak 🗣️ Not sure what to do about this at the moment... Open to ideas? 💡
OH nevermind. Ignore me. I think @sorenpeter@darch.dk’s feed is a bit weird. Because his url
is http://
but he actually hosts a https://
feed with redirects. so things get a bit weird 😢
MaxAgeDays
configuration at the pod level, that now some profiles are rather empty. This is only because well, they're a bit "inactive" so to speak 🗣️ Not sure what to do about this at the moment... Open to ideas? 💡
e.g: @sorenpeter@darch.dk
@bender@twtxt.net I noticed that although the Discover view (and your own Timeline) is much improved with a MaxAgeDays
configuration at the pod level, that now some profiles are rather empty. This is only because well, they’re a bit “inactive” so to speak 🗣️ Not sure what to do about this at the moment… Open to ideas? 💡
@bender@twtxt.net According to his @buckket Github profile, I belive so.
There are other tasks LLM(s) are far better suited for, which are also its downsides, and gawd so expensive and unrealistic to run yourself 🤦♂️ Do you know what one of these NVIDIA H100’s cost? 💲 That’s right! 🤣 > $50k USD 😱 And many of the models out there require 8 of these suckers 🤣 Each one consumes around ~400W of power each (not including the machine that houses them!)
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah I couldn’t agree more. The utility of using it in any way to form “truths” or to do anything that require a high degree of “accuracy” is utterly pointless.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Very nice! 😊 You must love those yellow dandelions? 🤔
But it is still a giant inefficient use of resources and energy 🤣
AI isn’t a shortcut for thinking. In her guide for skeptics, Hilary Gridley reframes AI as a collaborator—not a replacement. Use it like spellcheck for your thoughts. Don’t fear it—iterate with it. Insight improves, speed follows. Full post: https://hils.substack.com/p/the-ai-skeptics-guide-to-ai-collaboration
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Haha 🤣 Figures 🤦♂️ Also no need to be concerned with that here, I’ve personally blocked the ASN(s) of Microsoft, OpenAI, Claude and Google 😂
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah 👍 Haha 🤣 Does your own cache go back this far? 🤔
restic
for that reason and the fact that it's pretty rock solid. I have zero complaints 😅
Ahh so I was partially right 🤣
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Apparently that is @buckket@twtxt.net’s name? 🤔
Hmmm there’s a bug somewhere in the way I’m ingesting archived feeds 🤔
sqlite> select * from twts where content like 'The web is such garbage these days%';
hash = 37sjhla
feed_url = https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/twtxt.txt/1
content = The web is such garbage these days 😔 Or is it the garbage search engines? 🤔
created = 2024-11-14T01:53:46Z
created_dt = 2024-11-14 01:53:46
subject = #37sjhla
mentions = []
tags = []
links = []
sqlite>
@movq@www.uninformativ.de It’s nice to see shit like this still works 🤣 Even years later 😂
irc.mills.io
running behind Caddy Layer 4. However I don't terminate TLS at the edge in this case.
@bender@twtxt.net Yup 👍
I do want to improve the feeds.twtxt.net service one day (soon™) with features like this. But first I’ll have to prevent spammers from abusing it by introducing IndieAuth as an authentication layer.
Btw @andros@twtxt.andros.dev ; The automated feed you put together for Hacker News… Does it at any point rewrite parts of the feed as it goes along? 🤔 I’ve had to unfollow it because I’ve found in practise it makes a twt, then seems to modify that same twt (observed by content manually) at least twice. This ends up becoming effectively an “Edit” and essentially duplicate (looking) posts 😢
@bender@twtxt.net Shall we remove this primary/secondary color sttting? 🧐
@bender@twtxt.net Btw, do we want to nuke this compact feature? 🧐
irc.mills.io
running behind Caddy Layer 4. However I don't terminate TLS at the edge in this case.
@bender@twtxt.net How do you mean? 🧐 Caddy doesn’t do L4 by default.
@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I think it’s totally fine. I mean self-hosting costs money too. Power, Hardware, Time/effort, etc.
@bender@twtxt.net I recommend this also 👌 My eris
was based off of a much much older version of ergo.
@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I already have my IRC server irc.mills.io
running behind Caddy Layer 4. However I don’t terminate TLS at the edge in this case.
it is infininately simpler to run/operate 🤣
@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz @movq@www.uninformativ.de You could also have a play with eris which I use to power my little tiny server (that almost no-one uses 🤣)
restic
for that reason and the fact that it's pretty rock solid. I have zero complaints 😅
@bender@twtxt.net Ahh okay, I must have misread the website 🤔
Seem like it’s a server-client thingy? 🤔 I much prefer tools in this case and defer the responsibility of storage to something else. I really like restic
for that reason and the fact that it’s pretty rock solid. I have zero complaints 😅
@bender@twtxt.net Hahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣