See!? Even Meta/Facebook uses plain text, not just Twtxt! 🤣
@3r1c@3r1c.net Woa! I love this blog’s format! _ it’s just perfect for reading from terminal…
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org HAHA Nice one!
@bender@twtxt.net Well Matt should definitely get better Lawyers/PR people who could slap em’ on the wrest and tell “NO!” before he does something childish and effs things up. As for WPE, I believe a billion dollar company should be able to afford investing in their own infrastructure, hosting their resources, deploying their own CDNs and what not instead of leaching on Wordpress (’s infrastructure) for free (as in free coffee) + The Stripe thing they did is so disgusting given the circumstances, I don’t even want to talk about it.
Things could/should’ve been handled better, now it’s just another sh…rimp show.
@stigatle@yarn.stigatle.no You too buddy, have a good one!
@prologic@twtxt.net here… Get the same impression about the dude as everyone else and then (get the other side of the story, although it is a mess)[https://invidious.privacyredirect.com/watch?v=Gd8h_6vYPJ8] … Theeeeen, don’t give an Eff’ about any of it. 🤣
@david@collantes.us and WPE are saints, right? 🤣
@doesnm@doesnm.p.psf.lt nah man! you’re not tricking me into answering that one 🤣🤣🤣
“Fu*** IRC maaan, all the cool kids are on Discord! IRC sucks”
LOL, Now substitute IRC and Discord with Gopher/Gemini
and Web
.
I hope you get the joke 😅
@prologic@twtxt.net does that include mine? otherwise it would make them 8 and 5, maybe even throw off your maths by 0.00001% 😆 … and, come on! 1.04% seems like a good ratio considering how many gopher holes and gem capsules compared to how many Web servers out there in the world 😂
@xuu@txt.sour.is they can take 2% of your disk space/bandwidth and rent it to the highest bidder 🤥
@cuaxolotl@sunshinegardens.org Wait, what!? We’re dropping Gemini support!?
@quark@ferengi.one HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! 🤣
@quark@ferengi.one HAHA I wish! but no. It’s actually
as a matter of fact! don’t mind anything I do/say for the next 72 hours xD
Don’t mind this twt!
@david@collantes.us yeah what @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org said. 😅 and I just chickened out seeing bigger numbers than usual.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org and @movq@www.uninformativ.de thanks for sharing those options, they’re a good point to start from. Much appreciated! 🙏
scp(1)
options.
@mckinley@twtxt.net I mean, yes! I’ve heard a lot of good things about how efficient of a tool it is for backup and all; and I’m willing to spend the time and learn. It’s just that seeing those +400 possible options was a buzz-kill. 🫣 luckily @lyse and @movq shared their most used options!
Been trying to get acquainted with rsync(1)
but, whenever I Tab
for completion and get this:
λ ~/ rsync –
zsh: do you wish to see all 484 possibilities (162 lines)?
I’m like: Nope! a scp -rpCq ...
or whatever option salad will do just fine. 😅 [Insert: “Ain’t nobody got time fo’that!” Meme.]
LMAO 🤣 … I’ve been scrolling through mutt(1) man page and found this:
BUGS
None. Mutts have fleas, not bugs.
@prologic@twtxt.net Care to explain how that proves anything when someone else already got the spoofed twt with no way to tell it was? can’t an old twt just be deleted and give a similar result when grep-ed for?
Le me is worried! 😅
@bender@twtxt.net Just desktop notifications at the moment, but you could easily throw in a Ntfy server and get notified about anything you want, wherever you want. 🤣
@prologic@twtxt.net 🕵🏻 Hint: it was a twt about stolen property…
I have just made yet another convoluted twtxt notifications script! Feeling like an old dog learning new tricks! 🤣
@movq@www.uninformativ.de @falsifian@www.falsifian.org @prologic@twtxt.net Maybe I don’t know what I’m talking about and You’ve probably already read this: Everything you need to know about the “Right to be forgotten” coming straight out of the EU’s GDPR Website itself. It outlines the specific circumstances under which the right to be forgotten applies as well as reasons that trump the one’s right to erasure …etc.
I’m no lawyer, but my uneducated guess would be that:
A) twts are already publicly available/public knowledge and such… just don’t process children’s personal data and MAYBE you’re good? Since there’s this:
… an organization’s right to process someone’s data might override their right to be forgotten. Here are the reasons cited in the GDPR that trump the right to erasure:
- The data is being used to exercise the right of freedom of expression and information.
- The data is being used to perform a task that is being carried out in the public interest or when exercising an organization’s official authority.
- The data represents important information that serves the public interest, scientific research, historical research, or statistical purposes and where erasure of the data would likely to impair or halt progress towards the achievement that was the goal of the processing.
B) What I love about the TWTXT sphere is it’s Human/Humane element! No deceptive algorithms, no Corpo B.S …etc. Just Humans. So maybe … If we thought about it in this way, it wouldn’t heart to be even nicer to others/offering strangers an even safer space.
I could already imagine a couple of extreme cases where, somewhere, in this peaceful world one’s exercise of freedom of speech could get them in Real trouble (if not danger) if found out, it wouldn’t necessarily have to involve something to do with Law or legal authorities. So, If someone asks, and maybe fearing fearing for… let’s just say ‘Their well being’, would it heart if a pod just purged their content if it’s serving it publicly (maybe relay the info to other pods) and call it a day? It doesn’t have to be about some law/convention somewhere … 🤷 I know! Too extreme, but I’ve seen news of people who’d gone to jail or got their lives ruined for as little as a silly joke. And it doesn’t even have to be about any of this.
P.S: Maybe make X
tool check out robots.txt? Or maybe make long-term archives Opt-in? Opt-out?
P.P.S: Already Way too many MAYBE’s in a single twt! So I’ll just shut up. 😅
Gotta unplug for a couple of minutes. I’m suspecting the extension cord to be the root of my monitor dead rows of pixels and flickering problems.
@david@collantes.us “Hello back” from the other corner of the world! 🫡
@movq@www.uninformativ.de You’re right! switching from zsh to bash gave me the same result zq4fgq
Thanks!
@prologic@twtxt.net I ran the same command and got an even different result xD
~ » echo -n "https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/twtxt.txt\n2020-07-18T12:39:52Z\nHello World! 😊" | openssl dgst -blake2s256 -binary | base32 | tr -d '=' | tr 'A-Z' 'a-z' | tail -c 7
p44j3q
@prologic@twtxt.net I’m glad to! it just kinda feel a bit off when it’s all I can do 😅
@quark@ferengi.one Mine is a little overkill 😂 but I need to do something for practice:
#!/bin/bash
set -e
trap 'echo "!! Something went wrong...!!"' ERR
#============= Variables ==========#
# Source files
LOCAL_DIR=$HOME/twtxt
TWTXT=$LOCAL_DIR/twtxt.txt
HTML=$LOCAL_DIR/log.html
TEMPLATE=$LOCAL_DIR/template.tmpl
# Destination
REMOTE_HOST=remotHostName # Host already setup in ~/.ssh/config
WEB_DIR="path/to/html/content"
GOPHER_DIR="path/to/phlog/content"
GEMINI_DIR="path/to/gemini-capsule/content"
DIST_DIRS=("$WEB_DIR" "$GOPHER_DIR" "$GEMINI_DIR")
#============ Functions ===========#
# Building log.html:
build_page() {
twtxt2html -T $TEMPLATE $TWTXT > $HTML
}
# Bulk Copy files to their destinations:
copy_files() {
for DIR in "${DIST_DIRS[@]}"; do
# Copy both `txt` and `html` files to the Web server and only `txt`
# to gemini and gopher server content folders
if [ "$DIR" == "$WEB_DIR" ]; then
scp -C "$TWTXT" "$HTML" "$REMOTE_HOST:$DIR/"
else
scp -C "$TWTXT" "$REMOTE_HOST:$DIR/"
fi
done
}
#========== Call to functions ===========$
build_page && copy_files
@bender@twtxt.net LOL normally things (in the vanilla template) render like <time class="dt-published" datetime="2024-09-17T15:05:19+01:00"> 2024-09-17 14:05:19 +0000 UTC+0000 </time>
the datetime=...
atribute is in my local time UTC+1 then the text within the tag is in UTC+0
The thing is, I’ve been poking at the template as well, but nothing changes. I literally whole portionsm added in lorem text just to see if it would do anything, then twtxt2html -T ./layout.html <link to twtxt file> | less
shows same thing as before! nothing changes. LOL I’m not sure I’m going at it the right way.
It feels like an A’ Hole pointing at typos while other people are the ones doing the real work ! 😅
@bender@twtxt.net Now that I’m thinking about it, I could just add in a cron job on my remote machine with: twtxt2html https://domain.ltd/twtxt.txt > /path/to/static_files_dir/
that way I could benefit from the ‘relative time’ portion I’m getting rid of with the -n
…
@prologic@twtxt.net I’d be glad to! I’m just taking time to get well acquainted with it’s ins and out before saying something stupid 😅 Like… I’ve just noticed the -n
🫠
@bender@twtxt.net It’s just a simple twtxt2html and scp … it goes like:
twtxt2html $HOME/path/to/local_twtxt_dir/twtxt.txt > $HOME/path/to/local_twtxt_dir/log.html && \
scp $HOME/path/to/local_twtxt_dir/log.html user@remotehost:/path/to/static_files_dir/
I’ve been lazy to add it to my publish_command script, now I can just copy/pasta from the twt 😅
@sorenpeter@darch.dk It’s nobody’s fault! 😇 It’s all part of the fun with them Ones and Zeros
Thank you @movq@www.uninformativ.de Things are working again!! 🙏
@movq@www.uninformativ.de I’d guess the same goes for all twtxt.social feeds… I can’t see bender’s archived twts either, didn’t check for the others.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de I wiped both ~/.cache/jenny
and my maildir_target
when I tried to reset things. Still got wrecked 😅
If it’s not too much to ask, could you backup or/change your maildir_target
and give it a try with an empty directory?
PS: I still can’t get your and bender’s archived twts (at least the ones I’ve noticed), nor can I --fetch-context
on replays to them. your oldest is the one from 2024-06-14 18:22
… I can see lyse’s tho! but I doubt this is related the edit issue but this helps with something.
@prologic@twtxt.net I can’t pinpoint the exact cause but here are a couple of symptoms I observed:
- It all started with a LOT of his old twts starting back in 2020 showing in a weird way, some were empty others were duplicates and a lot more got marked for deletion by neomutt with the
D
tag.
- After trying to restart things with a fresh Maildir, I couldn’t fetch a lot of twts, even mine which was a replay to one of his. but then I was able to after temporarily deleting his link from my follow file.
then @quark@ferengi.one and @bender@twtxt.net pointed out the inconsistent from: + feed url and the twt edit
@prologic@twtxt.net by the way and just in case… is the metadata in tour twtxt.txt file, pointing at your rotated feed files formatted as prev = hash twtxt.txt/n
instead of a link by design? I couldn’t fetch any, nor can I do a –fetch-context on replays to your old twts.
Done and done! everything is back to normal! 🥳
FIX: Temporarily removed sorenpeter’s twtxt link from my follow list, whipped my twtxt Maildir and jenny Cache. Only then I was able to fetch everything as usual (I think). Now I’ll backup things and see what happens if I pull sorenpeter’s feed.
No keyboards were harmed during this experiment… yet.
@prologic@twtxt.net Nah! I don’t do news feeds 🤣 I gave some a try back then but it was just way too much noise. I have a separate app for RSS feeds I want to follow. None of them mention AI except for one article about the author’s fight back against the crawlers, I believe I’ve mentioned it before.
The wiered thing is Twtxt fetches everything just fine (I think) except for not having the convenience of having replays grouped into threads.
@bender@twtxt.net I can’t see ANY of those LOL not even a broken thread. The whole Thread went Poof!! as if it has never happened …
Bonus: On his Pod/Profile it shows as if his last twt is from 4 Months ago.
Spoiler: Didn’t work. LOL
@quark@ferengi.one No can do! I can’t see any of the replies to that thread, not even mine LOL. let me se if I can fetch @sorenpeter@darch.dk ’s feed with the https link.
@quark@ferengi.one here is an example: This Thread is not showing up in Mutt 🤔 Something is off!
I’ll set up jenny and mutt on another computer and see how it goes from there.
Something odd just happened to my twtxt timeline… A bunch of twts dissapered, others were marked to be deleted in mutt. so I nuked my whole twtxt Maildir and deleted my ~/.cache/jenny in order to start with a fresh Pull. I pulled feed as usual. Now like HALF the twts aren’t there 😂 even my my last replay. WTF IS GOING ON? 🤣🤣🤣
Also what are the change that the same human will make two different posts within the same second?!
Just out of curiosity, What would happen someday if I (maybe trolling) edit my twtxt.txt-file manually and switch/switch a couple of twt timestamps, or add in 3 different twts manually with the same time stamp?
@prologic@twtxt.net It’s all I’m using … I have barely touched any other social media since I’ve discovered Twtxt back in April 😂 maybe a little bit of Mastodon and IRC, bluesky even less, but nothing else worth mentioning.
@prologic@twtxt.net didn’t it already? or is it just me and my social bubble? 🤔
edit: […] have an unjustified* […]
@prologic@twtxt.net 🤯 HOLLY! … I’m definitely adding this to my Jenny’s publish_command
script!! THANK YOU! Now my website has TWO pages instead of just a boring one 😂
@prologic@twtxt.net Will try it right away!
@sorenpeter@darch.dk !! I freaking love your Timeline … I kind of have an justified PHP phobia 😅 but, I’m definitely thinking about giving it a try!
/ME wondering if it’s possible to use it locally just to read and manage my feed at first and then maybe make it publicly accessible later.
@prologic@twtxt.net Hey, Best wishes! Have fun! 🥳
@prologic@twtxt.net you should see This ! The devs were already trying to figure things out for TWTXT and Yarn.social 😃
@prologic@twtxt.net Thanks! I tried 😅
@prologic@twtxt.net No luck so far and it looks like I have plenty of reading to do tomorrow morning. 😅
@bender@twtxt.net Does it have to. To my understanding, all you have to do is to add in a claim to your Twtxt feed link into your key, update your profile and post one of These Identity formats to your Twtxt file/Profile…
Give me a couple of minutes, I’ll give it a try myself 😉
@prologic@twtxt.net well…
how would that work exactly?
To my limited knowledge, Keyoxide is an open source project offering different tools for verifying one’s online persona(s). That’s done by either A) creating an Ariande Profile using the web interface, a CLI. or B) Just using your GPG key. Either way, you add in Identity claims to your different profiles, links and whatnot, and finally advertise your profile … Then there is a second set of Mobile/Web clients and CLI your correspondents can use to check your identity claims. I think of them like the front-ends of GPG Keyservers (which keyoxide leverages for verification when you opt for the GPG Key method), where you verify profiles using links, Key IDs and Fingerprints…
Who maintains cox site? Is it centralized or decentralized can be relied upon?
- Maintainers? Definitely not me, but here’s their Git stuff and OpenCollective page …
- Both ASP and Keyoxide Webtools can be self-hosted. I don’t see a central authority here… + As mentioned on their FAQ page the whole process can be done manually, so you don’t have to relay on any one/thing if you don’t want to, the whole thing is just another tool for convenience (with a bit of eye candy).
Does that mean then that every user is required to have a cox side profile?
Nop. But it looks like a nice option to prove that I’m the same person to whom that may concern if I ever change my Twtxt URL, host/join a yarn pod or if I reach out on other platforms to someone I’ve met in her. Otherwise I’m just happy exchanging GPG keys or confirm the change IRL at a coffee shop or something. 😁
@prologic@twtxt.net can’t one just link to a keyoxide profile with a link to their Twtxt feed for identity or something?
# follow_notify = gemini://foo/bar
to your feed’s metadata, so that clients who follow you can ping that URL every now and then? How would you even notice that, do you regularly read your gemini logs? 🤔
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Damn! I’m two years late to the discussion 😅 So basically, one could just make a bash script/cron job on the side for pinging non-Http feeds from time to time and the receiving end would get it IF
they check their logs.
# follow_notify = gemini://foo/bar
to your feed’s metadata, so that clients who follow you can ping that URL every now and then? How would you even notice that, do you regularly read your gemini logs? 🤔
@prologic@twtxt.net Unfortunately it only work if I pull the feed in debug mode jenny -D
otherwise, it misses things up if I add that snippet of text to links in my .config/jenny/follow
file 😅 Anyway, it was a nice try.
# follow_notify = gemini://foo/bar
to your feed’s metadata, so that clients who follow you can ping that URL every now and then? How would you even notice that, do you regularly read your gemini logs? 🤔
@movq@www.uninformativ.de @prologic@twtxt.net Hey! I may have found a silly trick to announce my following to people hosting their feeds on the Gemini space using the requested URI
itself instead of relaying on the USER Agent
😂. I’ve copied my current feed over to my (to be) Gemlog for testing. And if I do a jenny -D "gemini://gem.aelaraji.com/twtxt.txt?follower=aelaraji@https://aelaraji.com/twtxt.txt"
and this happens:
A) As a follower, I get the feed as usual.
B) As the feed owner, I get this in logs:
hostname:1965 - “gemini://gem.aelaraji.com/twtxt.txt?follower=aelaraji@https://aelaraji.com/twtxt.txt” 20 “text/plain;lang=en-US”
You could do the same for Gopher feeds but only if you want to announce yourself by throwing in an error in their logs, then you’ll need a second request to fetch the feed. jenny -D "gopher://gopher.aelaraji.com/twtxt.txt&follower=aelaraji@https:/aelaraji.com/twtxt.txt"
gave me this :
gopher.aelaraji.com:70 - [09/Sep/2024:22:08:54 +0000] “GET 0/twtxt.txt&follower=aelaraji@https:/aelaraji.com/twtxt.txt HTTP/1.0” 404 0 “” “Unknown gopher client”
NB: the follower=...
string won’t appear in gopher logs after a ?
but if I replace it with a +
or a &
and it works. There will be a missing /
after the https:
. Probably a client thing.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org this one is hilarious 🤣
@movq@www.uninformativ.de @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org @bender@twtxt.net You Are AWESOME!! Got my playlist for the week!! 🤘😂
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Brilliant idea! 😂 One way ticket to Venus please! 🤘
@prologic@twtxt.net That’s actually nice ! But I imagine one would have to file in a request beforehand and await an approval from HR …etc.
@prologic@twtxt.net YES, Please!!!
Where do I download more hours for my days? not having more than 24 hours a day S U C K S !
@cuaxolotl@sunshinegardens.org HAHA! 😆 Nice one!
@prologic@twtxt.net I tried hosting my own Matrix server once, I got wrecked! 🤣 and I believe that experience established a good base line for me to avoid self-hosting anything federated (except for a TWTX feed).
Skill issues aside (since I’m willing to learn), my internet speed is a huge limitation (I have less than 1Mb Up) 🫠 Then again, there’s the Running stuff off of my RPI's SD Card
😅 that’s just asking for trouble.
Seriously, I should get a proper Job, at least I’ll be able to afford my curiosities 🙃
@movq@www.uninformativ.de He did! But hey, at least his claws were not out. So we’re good 😂
My cat just had a… nightmare ? He woke up, slapped me in the face then jumped off of the bed giving me the “WTF Just happened Human!?” look. 🤭
@prologic@twtxt.net They are but then again Apple’s is doing things Apple’s way 😆 Hint: punishing devs and users for using alternative stores.
@bender@twtxt.net F-Droid is a platform/app that lets you side-load/install and serve android apps without the need for Google’s play store’s blessing. I also use Aurora Store to install Play Store’s apps without having to associate my phone with Google account. 🦾 it makes me feel good about myself 🥸
@quark@ferengi.one 😆 I’m trying so hard to overcome the temptations.
I’m SO enjoying the new jenny --fetch-context
😁
Oh boy! I think I stumbled upon a Terminal Candy Shop! 🤤 “Terminal Trove”
@quark@ferengi.one LOL we repair everything in here 😆 … I just have a problem with trusting people with my stuff because of past experiences. “Better a half broken screen than no screen” kind of thing.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I have no Idea, I still haven’t found a repair shop I can trust with my monitor. As for the blackouts, they don’t have consistent frequency. Sometimes it’s once every 3 months… other times it’s 3 times a day 😂
@prologic@twtxt.net I’ve just went in a case b) on @abucci@anthony.buc.ci ’s pod, if I click on their nickname I get a Log-in page. And if I click on anyone else’s I a profile page. Is that normal?
@quark@ferengi.one We’re having a nice day out here, Clear sky, 26.2 °C (altough it feels like a ~30 °C) … no storms! And the most annoying thing is, THIS happens to my monitor whenever there is a power outage:
With each one a row of pixels gets chipped out … and no I can’t afford a UPS at the moment.
Throw your “Get rich quick” plans at me, I wanna be able to afford suing somebody/something about this. 😂 It’s not the first time that this happened and I’m sure it’s not gonna be the last.
POWER EFFIN’ OUTAGE!!! Electricity came back after ~10 min like… no beggie BUT, Internet stayed out for like 2 more hrs 😅
@prologic@twtxt.net Yeah, but the thing is, I don’t even remember when/how/why I got to bed yesterday 😅
/ME is confused.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Now, the Question is: Who’s body was in the garbage bag!? 😏😂
Good Morning, 30 min till Sunrise.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Didn’t know there was a yarnd IRC channel!! hopping in to say Hi 😁
yarnd
prefetch resources liks this, cache them and serve the cached copy? 🤔
@bender@twtxt.net yeah, I think so as well. Hell I can’t even get myself to upload much media files on the fedi-platforms knowing they’ll be hosted out of someone else’s pocket, someone with no ROI in mind but other’s freedom of expression.
@bender@twtxt.net What multiplexer do you use? I usually use Tmux and have my prefix mapped to C-a on my local machine and the default C-b on the remote ones so they don’t conflict if it helps.
@prologic@twtxt.net I have no clue TBH