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ferengi.oneHome of Quark, The Ferengi.
You know the saying about my bar (if you didn't, now you do): "Come to Quark's, Quark's is fun; come right now, don't walk — run!"
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I am letting this domain go at the end of this year. Another of my alter ego feeds will be gone then. Oh, the humanity! 😅
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Ugh! Not @david@collantes.us, but this one. I am going nuts. Well, I am nuts!
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(jenny is also broken?)
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Yes, error on my side. All of the sudden jenny refused to show me my own posts. Had to recreate mailbox (got rid of cache too) to make it work.
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(jenny is also broken?)
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@movq@www.uninformativ.de I think it was user error. Testing again.
Testing … (yeah!)
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(secret)
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@bender@twtxt.net (secret received!).
End of year holidays are a mix of sadness and happiness for me. I can’t help but remembering those who are gone, with which I spent so many good times. A part of me wants to feel happy, and celebrate another completed round around the Sun, while the other feels sad because of those I will never see again.
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Hello, @bender
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@<@chyrp.doesnm.cc https://chyrp.doesnm.cc/twtxt.txt> this is broken in jenny too, I figure. No nick breaks things.
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Time to rotate three months into archive feeds again.
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@doesnm@doesnm.p.psf.lt up to you. I have mine to rotate at 1,000 twtxts. I have vomited over 400, so far. I have some way to go till rotation. :-D
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@wbknl are you still in Russia? It could be hard mailing anything to there these days. I read your "russia is eternally cold", and became curious. Patagonia is the only place I know on South America that it has rounded mountains, though they can be anywhere. Originally from Chile, or Argentina? My curiosity doesn't need feeding, by the way. It's all good if it doesn't. :-)
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I realise now that the referred post might just be fiction. I am slow Ferengi these days. LOL.
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@bender cos I live outside the United States and they don't send to my country
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@wbknl@twtxt.net are you still in Russia? It could be hard mailing anything to there these days. I read your “russia is eternally cold”, and became curious. Patagonia is the only place I know on South America that it has rounded mountains, though they can be anywhere. Originally from Chile, or Argentina? My curiosity doesn’t need feeding, by the way. It’s all good if it doesn’t. :-)
This morning (and a little bit of the afternoon) the idea of having a full referenced archive of twtxts on the web has consumed me a bit. I am talking about something similar to the email archives one see online, but for twtxts, and a more personal level. Such archive would be available, even if the involved feeds are long gone, because feeds will be treated as received emails.
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It is past 16:00 ET, and so the weekend begins. Here is to hoping it transcurs slowly in our minds---or, at the very minimum, in mine.
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@aelaraji@aelaraji.com just make sure to howl, two or three times! 😂
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I wonder how long does Yarn caches a
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description header. Or rather, how often it re-fetches it.
@prologic@twtxt.net woot, awesome! I am using ux2028 twice in my description. May lower it to once, but need some reference first. 😅
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I wonder how long does Yarn caches a
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description header. Or rather, how often it re-fetches it.
So, @prologic@twtxt.net, Yarn isn’t rendering the metadata as described on the format documentation. That is, ux2028 is ignored when Yarn renders the description metadata.
I wonder how long does Yarn caches a description header. Or rather, how often it re-fetches it.
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Three days from today, towards the end of the day, we in the US will have an idea of who the nation's presiding person will be for the next four years. In the 32 years I have lived here, I have never been more worried about an election outcome.
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@xuu@txt.sour.is done, and done, and done. The three of us dropped our mail-in ballots, and received confirmation they are counted. Living in a red state (well, kid said it is more like purple now) makes me sad, and mad, but I have done what I can—and that includes explaining things to others, and encouraging them to vote.
Three days from today, towards the end of the day, we in the US will have an idea of who the nation’s presiding person will be for the next four years. In the 32 years I have lived here, I have never been more worried about an election outcome.
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Time to put up the christmas decoration, I guess. 🤷✨
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@movq@www.uninformativ.de LOL, you are late! :-P Stores around started selling Christmas’s decorations early September. Like, wow! Usually the earliest is after Halloween, more often after Thanksgiving.
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@movq, having an issue fetching a twtxt context. I am getting:
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@movq@www.uninformativ.de interesting! So, what would the fix be, in this case, do you know? Aware of this, @prologic@twtxt.net?
@movq@www.uninformativ.de, having an issue fetching a twtxt context. I am getting:
Trying to fetch "#mowsvgq" from Yarn pod https://txt.sour.is ...
Trying to fetch "#mowsvgq" from Yarn pod https://twtxt.net ...
Twt could not be found
Yet, the twtxt is there: https://twtxt.net/twt/mowsvgq. Bug, or something else?
Hmm:
42 75 69 6C 64 20 77 68 61 74 20 6D 61 6B 65 73 20 79 6F 75 20 68 61 70 70 79 2E 20 4C 65 74 20 6D 69 73 65 72 61 62 6C 65 20 70 65 6F 70 6C 65 20 62 75 69 6C 64 20 74 68 65 20 72 65 73 74 2E
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as a matter of fact! don't mind anything I do/say for the next 72 hours xD
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@aelaraji@aelaraji.com ooooh! It’s that kind mission! /me stands, salutes, turns around, and exits the room. LOL.
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as a matter of fact! don't mind anything I do/say for the next 72 hours xD
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@aelaraji@aelaraji.com why, having a party with lots of libations? LOL.
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no my fault your client can't handle a little editing ;)
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@sorenpeter@darch.dk hmm, how does your client handles “a little editing”? I am sure threads would break just as well. 😉
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@movq going a little sideways on this, "*If twtxt/Yarn was to grow bigger, then this would become a concern again. But even Mastodon allows editing, so how much of a problem can it really be? 😅*", wouldn't it preparing for a potential (even if very, very, veeeeery remote) growth be a good thing? Mastodon signs all messages, keeps a history of edits, and it doesn't break threads. It isn't a problem there.😉 It is here.
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@prologic@twtxt.net, there is a parser bug on parent. Specifically on this portion:
"*If twtxt/Yarn was to grow bigger, then this would become a concern again. *But even Mastodon allows editing*, so how
+much of a problem can it really be? 😅*"
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I’m not advocating in either direction, btw. I haven’t made up my mind yet. 😅 Just braindumping here.
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@movq@www.uninformativ.de going a little sideways on this, “*If twtxt/Yarn was to grow bigger, then this would become a concern again. But even Mastodon allows editing, so how much of a problem can it really be? 😅*”, wouldn’t it preparing for a potential (even if very, very, veeeeery remote) growth be a good thing? Mastodon signs all messages, keeps a history of edits, and it doesn’t break threads. It isn’t a problem there.😉 It is here.
I think keeping hashes is a must. If anything for that “feels good” feeling.
Hey, @movq@www.uninformativ.de, a tiny thing to add to jenny, a -v switch. That way when you twtxt “That’s an older format that was used before jenny version v23.04”, I can go and run jenny -v, and “duh!” myself on the way to a git pull. :-D
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Regarding jenny development: There have been enough changes in the last few weeks, imo. I want to let things settle for a while (potential bugfixes aside) and then I’m going to cut a new release.
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@movq@www.uninformativ.de ooooh, nice! commit 62a2b7735749f2ff3c9306dd984ad28f853595c5:
Crawl archived feeds in –fetch-context
Like, very much! :-)
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Regarding jenny development: There have been enough changes in the last few weeks, imo. I want to let things settle for a while (potential bugfixes aside) and then I’m going to cut a new release.
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@movq@www.uninformativ.de to paraphrase US Presidents speech on each State of the Union, “the State of the Jenny is strong!” :-D As for the potential upcoming changes, there has to be a knowledgeable head honcho that will agglomerate and coalesce, and guide onto the direction that will be taken. All that with the strong input from the developers that will be implementing the changes, and a lesser (but not less valuable) input from users.
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@falsifian Yeah, delete requests feel very odd.
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@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I call upon the services of the @yarn_police@twtxt.net to further investigate this oddness!
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An alternate idea for supporting (properly) Twt Edits is to denoate as such and extend the meaning of a Twt Subject (which would need to be called something better?); For example, let's say I produced the following Twt:
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@falsifian@www.falsifian.org “I don’t really mind if the twt gets edited before I even fetch it.”, right, that’s never the problem. Editing a twtxt before anyone fetches it isn’t even editing, right? :-P The problem we are trying to fix is the havoc is causes editing twtxts that have already been replied to, often ad nauseam. That’s the real problem.
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I came across this Gallery Theme for Hugo, and @lyse immediately came to mind. I think it would be a very fitting theme to use for all your photos, Lyse!
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@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org now, how am I not surprised at that reply?! Hahahahaha!
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An alternate idea for supporting (properly) Twt Edits is to denoate as such and extend the meaning of a Twt Subject (which would need to be called something better?); For example, let's say I produced the following Twt:
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@falsifian@www.falsifian.org that would be problematic to do on a fully decentralised system. I am not disagreeing, though. That’s the reason I have stopped editing twtxts. I strive to own mistakes, as minor as they might be. Now, if trail editing can be accomplished, I am all for it!
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@falsifian@www.falsifian.org what would the difference be between an edit the changes everything on the original twtxt, and a delete?
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Could someone knowledgable reply with the steps a grandpa will take to calculate the hash of a twtxt from the CLI, using out-of-the-box tools? I swear I read about it somewhere, but can't find it.
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@aelaraji@aelaraji.com odd, I ran it under Ubuntu 24.04, and got the same result as @prologic@twtxt.net (which is on macOS), zq4fgq.
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Could someone knowledgable reply with the steps a grandpa will take to calculate the hash of a twtxt from the CLI, using out-of-the-box tools? I swear I read about it somewhere, but can't find it.
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@prologic@twtxt.net I just realised the jenny also does what I want, as of latest commit. Simply use jenny --debug-feed <feed url>, and it will do what I wanted too!
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I have noticed that twtxt timestamps differ. For example:
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@movq@www.uninformativ.de alright, fair, and interesting. I was expecting them to be all the same (format wise), but it doesn’t matter, for sure, as it works just fine. Thanks!
I have noticed that twtxt timestamps differ. For example:
- @prologic@twtxt.net (and I assume any Yarn user)
2024-09-18T13:16:17Z
- @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org
2024-09-17T21:15:00+02:00
- @aelaraji@aelaraji.com (and @movq@www.uninformativ.de, and me)
2024-09-18T05:43:13+00:00
So, which is right, or best?
I came across this Gallery Theme for Hugo, and @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org immediately came to mind. I think it would be a very fitting theme to use for all your photos, Lyse!
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Current Twt Hash spec and probability of hash collision:
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@prologic@twtxt.net the real conclusion is, is it going to change, to what, and when? :-P
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@quark Do you mean something like this?
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@prologic@twtxt.net yes, that would work, except there is no debug command on my local yarnc. Are you talking about a potential future implementation here?
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Could someone knowledgable reply with the steps a grandpa will take to calculate the hash of a twtxt from the CLI, using out-of-the-box tools? I swear I read about it somewhere, but can't find it.
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@prologic@twtxt.net I saw those, yes. I tried using yarnc, and it would work for a simple twtxt. Now, for a more convoluted one it truly becomes a nightmare using that tool for the job. I know there are talks about changing this hash, so this might be a moot point right now, but it would be nice to have a tool that:
- Would calculate the hash of a twtxt in a file.
- Would calculate all hashes on a
twtxt.txt(local and remote).
Again, something lovely to have after any looming changes occur.
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@quark Mine is a little overkill 😂 but I need to do something for practice:
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@aelaraji@aelaraji.com Woah! Overkill, but nicely laid out. Hey, the ultimate goal is for it to work, so, mission accomplished! :-)
Could someone knowledgable reply with the steps a grandpa will take to calculate the hash of a twtxt from the CLI, using out-of-the-box tools? I swear I read about it somewhere, but can’t find it.
This might be quite unpopular, but I truly dislike Wordle. The reason isn’t rooted on any psychological issue, it is much, much more simple: people share their Wordle result(s)—I figure they feel good about themselves—and for me it is only uneven, unaligned, wasteful noise. I don’t even want to show you an example, but I am sure you know what I am talking about.
Thank gods those posting their hideous squares have finally quieted down. LOL.
Testing the new custom template option. Got to modify it more, but baby steps.
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Opened a couple of issues on twtxt2html. Maybe @prologic will get to them after he has completed his luxurious recharging cycle. LOL.
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@prologic@twtxt.net woot! Fast! I think you need to change your nick to “fastlogic” instead. :-D
Thank you for adding the feature so fast, @prologic@twtxt.net! Look at how beautiful this one renders now. Oh my!
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So yeah no, whilst it technically works, neither
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jenny nor yarnd support it very well. Only at a very basic level.
@prologic@twtxt.net sorry but nope. Neither jenny, nor yarnd supports it at all. This was treated as a thread because I picked one of @falsifian@www.falsifian.org’s twtxts (with the “old subject”), and replied to it (hence starting the thread).
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Just that
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yarnd (at least) doesn't support creating such a custom TwtSubject, but it will reply and respect and thread one if one was constructed.
Oh, and you can’t imagine the level of control I am commandeering by restraining me from editing that previous “missing-one-backtick” twtxt. LOL!
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@bender It's just a simple twtxt2html and scp ... it goes like:
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@aelaraji@aelaraji.com this is the little script I am using on my publish_command:
#!/usr/bin/env bash
twtxt2html -t "Quark's twtxt feed" /var/www/sites/ferengi.one/twtxt.txt > /var/www/sites/ferengi.one/index.html
I named it twtxtit. :-)
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Just that
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yarnd (at least) doesn't support creating such a custom TwtSubject, but it will reply and respect and thread one if one was constructed.
@prologic@twtxt.net based on @falsifian@www.falsifian.org’s findings, I don’t believe this is quite accurate.
“yarnd
(_at least_) doesn't support creating such a custom TwtSubject, but it will reply and respect and thread one if one was constructed."
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(replyto http://darch.dk/twtxt.txt 2024-09-15T12:50:17Z) Hmm, but yarnd also isn't showing these twts as being part of a thread. @prologic you said yarnd respects customs subjects. Shouldn't these twts count as having a custom subject, and get threaded together?
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@falsifian@www.falsifian.org yes, that happened around 2 years ago, on commit 5923078ea5.
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Opened a couple of issues on twtxt2html. Maybe @prologic will get to them after he has completed his luxurious recharging cycle. LOL.
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Make that three issues. Mostly because the other two were feeling kind of lonely. So, yeah. Ha!
Opened a couple of issues on twtxt2html. Maybe @prologic@twtxt.net will get to them after he has completed his luxurious recharging cycle. LOL.
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@aelaraji this is my change on
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main.go (but it can be done on a template now, so no reason to touch the code):
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org fully agree. I have never been a fan of relative times to begin with, so that one will go away, foh sho! :-D
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(replyto http://darch.dk/twtxt.txt 2024-09-15T12:50:17Z) Hmm, but yarnd also isn't showing these twts as being part of a thread. @prologic you said yarnd respects customs subjects. Shouldn't these twts count as having a custom subject, and get threaded together?
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@falsifian@www.falsifian.org based on Twt Subject Extension, your subject is invalid. You can have custom subjects, that is, not a valid hash, but you simply can’t put anything, and expect it to be treated as a TwtSubject, me thinks.
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@aelaraji Btw, I'm also open to ideas for this tool and welcome any contributions 👌
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@prologic@twtxt.net I have some ideas:
- Add smartypants rendering, just like Yarn has.
- Add the ability to create individual twtxts, each named after their hash.
- Fix the formatting of the help. :-P
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Hmm, this didn't work, because I made a mistake. Now I have corrected it, let's see how it goes now.
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Woot, yes! It works perfectly. By the time you see my twtxt, it is already at the main Ferengi.one website.
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Hmm, this didn't work, because I made a mistake. Now I have corrected it, let's see how it goes now.
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OK, OK, the third time is the charm. Maybe?
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Trying to figure out how to use the
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Hmm, this didn’t work, because I made a mistake. Now I have corrected it, let’s see how it goes now.
Trying to figure out how to use the publish_command to vomit the HTML into a file, using twtxt2html.
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@bender I should put the template that is used by default as a file in the repo. Look at the source for now and you'll see 😅
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@bender@twtxt.net that’s not your change, silly robot, it is mine! LOL. I am finding @prologic@twtxt.net’s tool handy to refer to previous posts (as reference, for example).
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@quark At the moment, the twt in question exists in the sixth archive:
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@movq@www.uninformativ.de I didn’t run the command as you recommended, but, I wiped things once more, and ran jenny -f, and this time got:
david@arrakis:~$ jenny -f
Fetching archived feed https://anthony.buc.ci/user/abucci/twtxt.txt/1 (configured as abucci, https://anthony.buc.ci/user/abucci/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt-2024-04.txt (configured as lyse, https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://darch.dk/twtxt-archive.txt (configured as soren, https://darch.dk/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt-old_2024-04-21_6v47cua.txt (configured as movq, https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/twtxt.txt/1 (configured as prologic, https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt-2024-03.txt (configured as lyse, https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt-old_2022-12-21_2us6qbq.txt (configured as movq, https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/twtxt.txt/2 (configured as prologic, https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt-2024-02.txt (configured as lyse, https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt-old_2022-01-14_ew5gzca.txt (configured as movq, https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/twtxt.txt/3 (configured as prologic, https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt-2024-01.txt (configured as lyse, https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt-old_2021-12-23_f6y65bq.txt (configured as movq, https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/twtxt.txt/4 (configured as prologic, https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt-2023-12.txt (configured as lyse, https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt-old_2021-12-04_e4x7yba.txt (configured as movq, https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/twtxt.txt/5 (configured as prologic, https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt-2023-11.txt (configured as lyse, https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt-old_2021-11-18_42tjxba.txt (configured as movq, https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/twtxt.txt/6 (configured as prologic, https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt-2023-10.txt (configured as lyse, https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt-old_2021-11-08_i2wnvaa.txt (configured as movq, https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt-2023-09.txt (configured as lyse, https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt-old_2021-10-23_kvwn5oa.txt (configured as movq, https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt-2023-08.txt (configured as lyse, https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt-old_2021-10-11_mljudaa.txt (configured as movq, https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt-2023-07.txt (configured as lyse, https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt-old_2021-09-22_5mkqwua.txt (configured as movq, https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt-2023-06.txt (configured as lyse, https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt-old_2021-07-27_xcnzmlq.txt (configured as movq, https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt-2023-05.txt (configured as lyse, https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt-old_2021-06-16_mtedqya.txt (configured as movq, https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt-2023-04.txt (configured as lyse, https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt-old_2021-04-29_z7lvzja.txt (configured as movq, https://www.uninformativ.de/twtxt.txt)
Fetching archived feed https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt-2023-03.txt (configured as lyse, https://lyse.isobeef.org/twtxt.txt)
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Notice that @prologic@twtxt.net’s /6 is there. I found the twtxt then. Kind of odd it didn’t show before.
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@movq@www.uninformativ.de I did the same. jenny fetches archives, yes, but that twtxt I am referring about is no longer. If you fetch it, but I don’t, there is certainly something going on…
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@movq@www.uninformativ.de I did started from scratch, today. I using am commit 6e8ce5afdabd5eac22eae4275407b3bd2a167daf (HEAD -> main, origin/main, origin/HEAD), I keep myself up-to-date, LOL. Still, that specific twtxt (o6dsrga) is no longer.
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@prologic, your first twtxt ever was
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o6dsrga, but I can't find the source for it (the raw file). I reset everything, and re-fetched fresh feeds (allegedly including archives). Where is it?
After re-fetching feeds, the earliest twtxt I have from you is n7gavoa.
@prologic@twtxt.net, your first twtxt ever was o6dsrga, but I can’t find the source for it (the raw file). I reset everything, and re-fetched fresh feeds (allegedly including archives). Where is it?
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(#o) @prologic this was your first twtxt. Cool! :-P
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@movq@www.uninformativ.de I figured it will be something like this, yet, you were able to reply just fine, and I wasn’t. Looking at your twtxt.txt I see this line:
2024-09-16T17:37:14+00:00 (#o6dsrga) @<prologic https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/twtxt.txt>
@<quark https://ferengi.one/twtxt.txt> This is what I get. 🤔
Which is using the right hash. Mine, on the other hand, when I replied to the original, old style message (Message-Id: <o6dsrga>), looks like this:
2024-09-16T16:42:27+00:00 (#o) @<prologic https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/twtxt.txt> this was your first twtxt. Cool! :-P
What did you do to make yours work? I simply went to the oldest @prologic@twtxt.net’s entry on my Maildir, and replied to it (jenny set the reply-to hash to #o, even though the Message-Id is o6dsrga). Since jenny can’t fetch archived twtxts, how could I go to re-fetch everything? And, most importantly, would re-fetching fix the Message-Id:?
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Hmm... I replied to this message:
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This is how my original message shows up on jenny:
From: quark <quark>
Subject: (#o) @prologic this was your first twtxt. Cool! :-P
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 12:42:27 -0400
Message-Id: <k7imvia@twtxt>
X-twtxt-feed-url: https://ferengi.one/twtxt.txt
(#o) @<prologic https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/twtxt.txt> this was your first twtxt. Cool! :-P
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Hmm… I replied to this message:
From: prologic <prologic>
Subject: Hello World! 😊
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2020 08:39:52 -0400
Message-Id: <o6dsrga>
X-twtxt-feed-url: https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/twtxt.txt
Hello World! 😊
And see how the hash shows… Is it because that hash isn’t longer used?
@prologic@twtxt.net this was your first twtxt. Cool! :-P
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@movq@www.uninformativ.de we can shorten it by six characters, with (r:https://...). 😅
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@quark We will fix this soon™ 🔜
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@prologic@twtxt.net I am going to light some candles this weekend to “La Virgen de Macarena” to make it happen! :-D
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@aelaraji So what is it about @sorenpeter's feed that's screwed with your client? (Jenny?) 🤔 Kind of curious now 🤣
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@prologic@twtxt.net you need to catch up with my twtxts, mate. :-P
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Something odd just happened to my twtxt timeline... A bunch of twts dissapered, others were marked to be deleted in mutt. so I nuked my whole twtxt Maildir and deleted my ~/.cache/jenny in order to start with a fresh Pull. I pulled feed as usual. Now like HALF the twts aren't there 😂 even my my last replay. WTF IS GOING ON? 🤣🤣🤣
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@aelaraji@aelaraji.com grats! See how much trouble an edited twtxt can cause? Wish there was a simpler solution. Alas, I don’t have much hope.
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Alright, I saw enough broken threads lately to be motivated enough to extend the
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--fetch-context thingy: It can now ask Yarn pods for twt hashes.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de I can have more than one Yarn, correct? Like:
"yarn_pods_for_discovery": ["https://twtxt.net", "https://txt.sour.is"],
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Bonus: On his Pod/Profile it shows as if his last twt is from 4 Months ago.
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I mean, this: https://darch.dk/timeline/replies?url=http://darch.dk/twtxt.txt
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@quark No can do! I can't see any of the replies to that thread, not even mine LOL. let me se if I can fetch @sorenpeter 's feed with the https link.
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@aelaraji@aelaraji.com make sense, probably. The twtxt was already on my Maildir, that’s why I can fetch it. I fetch every 3 minutes (sssh, don’t tell anyone!). LOL!
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Bonus: On his Pod/Profile it shows as if his last twt is from 4 Months ago.
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@aelaraji@aelaraji.com check “Replies”. :-D
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Something odd just happened to my twtxt timeline... A bunch of twts dissapered, others were marked to be deleted in mutt. so I nuked my whole twtxt Maildir and deleted my ~/.cache/jenny in order to start with a fresh Pull. I pulled feed as usual. Now like HALF the twts aren't there 😂 even my my last replay. WTF IS GOING ON? 🤣🤣🤣
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More:
Subject: The [tag URI scheme](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag_URI_scheme) looks interesting. I like that it human read- and writable. And since we already got the timestamp in the twtxt.txt it would be
somewhat trivial to parse. But there are still the issue with what the name/id should be... Maybe it doesn't have to bee that stick? Instead of using `tag:` as the prefix/protocol, it would more it clear
what we are talking about by using `in-reply-to:` (https://indieweb.org/in-reply-to) or `replyto:` similar to `mailto:` 1. `(reply:sorenpeter@darch.dk,2024-09-15T12:06:27Z)' 2.
`(in-reply-to:darch.dk/twtxt.txt,2024-09-15T12:06:27Z)' 2. `(replyto:http://darch.dk/twtxt.txt,2024-09-15T12:06:27Z)' I know it's longer that 7-11 characters, but it's self-explaining when looking at the
twtxt.txt in the raw, and the cases above can all be caught with this regex: `\([\w-]*reply[\w-]*\:` Is this something that would work?
Subject: The [tag URI scheme](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag_URI_scheme) looks interesting. I like that it human read- and writable. And since we already got the timestamp in the twtxt.txt it would be
somewhat trivial to parse. But there are still the issue with what the name/id should be... Maybe it doesn't have to bee that stick? Instead of using `tag:` as the prefix/protocol, it would more it clear
what we are talking about by using `in-reply-to:` (https://indieweb.org/in-reply-to) or `replyto:` similar to `mailto:` 1. `(reply:sorenpeter@darch.dk,2024-09-15T12:06:27Z)` 2.
`(in-reply-to:darch.dk/twtxt.txt,2024-09-15T12:06:27Z)` 3. `(replyto:http://darch.dk/twtxt.txt,2024-09-15T12:06:27Z)` I know it's longer that 7-11 characters, but it's self-explaining when looking at the
twtxt.txt in the raw, and the cases above can all be caught with this regex: `\([\w-]*reply[\w-]*\:` Is this something that would work?
Notice the difference? Soren edited, and broke everything.
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Two different “from” too:
"sorenpeter (soren)" <sorenpeter>
sorenpeter <sorenpeter>
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See:
Message-Id: <hns535a@twtxt>
X-twtxt-feed-url: https://darch.dk/twtxt.txt
In-Reply-To: <pvju5cq@twtxt>
And
Message-Id: <weadxga@twtxt>
X-twtxt-feed-url: http://darch.dk/twtxt.txt
In-Reply-To: <pvju5cq@twtxt>
Two feed URLs, one HTTPS, the other HTTP.
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Something odd just happened to my twtxt timeline... A bunch of twts dissapered, others were marked to be deleted in mutt. so I nuked my whole twtxt Maildir and deleted my ~/.cache/jenny in order to start with a fresh Pull. I pulled feed as usual. Now like HALF the twts aren't there 😂 even my my last replay. WTF IS GOING ON? 🤣🤣🤣
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@aelaraji@aelaraji.com no, it is not just you. Do fetch the parent with jenny, and you will see there are two messages with different hash. Soren did something funky, for sure.
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@aelaraji@aelaraji.com hmm, I see all of your twtxts just fine. Now, that’s a puzzle!
@jmjl@tilde.green howdy! Sorry for mistaken you with https://blog.nfld.uk/ (jlj), but glad to connect. Cheers!
One can tell the weekend is fast approaching, as things around these parts tend to slow down then. Cheers everyone! :-)
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When we passed a few horses in the forest, there was really strong soup odor in the air. It didn't smell like horse at all, but soup. Maybe they've been soup horses, chickens were out of stock.
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@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org 31°C here, feels like 33°C, with a lovely 75% of humidity. It has been raining, on and off (to make matter “better”) the whole day until now. No horses here, but if you go outside you will smell the same smell of farm animals (like goats, or pigs). That’s because two or three kilometres from here there are private farms, and when the wind blows in such way, well, we are reminded of their existence.
I haven’t left the house, so it feels well under air conditioning. In two more hours I will call it quits from the work day, and will have to dash to the grocery to get supplies for tonight’s meal (arroz con gandules). I will let you know how it truly feels out there then. :-D
For those swollen fingers, nothing better than a mildly cold shower! Oh, and paws off the keyboard! :-P
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@quark wow everybody loves @prologic
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@abucci@anthony.buc.ci well, those are top ten “twtxtrs” (as in, how many twtxts they have produced). @prologic@twtxt.net sure is a conversational fellow. :-D
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@bender On twtxt, I follow all feeds that I can find (there are some exceptions, of course). There’s so little going on in general, it hardly matters. 😅
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@movq@www.uninformativ.de ha! Here are my top 10:
24056 "prologic"
5103 "lyse"
3932 "movq"
1984 "abucci"
1876 "adi"
1633 "fastidious"
1551 "jlj"
1455 "mckinley"
1413 "offgridliving
1280 "eaplmx"
Some of those I no longer follow, or do not exist, but their wisdom remains. LOL.
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I think I’m not going to query Yarn pods for the moment. Let’s first see how often I’d actually need that. 🤔
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@movq@www.uninformativ.de good idea, considering it might occasionally not work at all (because of edited twtxts).
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I love retailers that sell a variety of werid stuff. Add leevalley.com to sciplus.com and countycomm.com.
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@dbucklin@www.davebucklin.com very nice, thank you for sharing! I like that kind of retailers too, so those are on my list now. 🙂
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Falling satellite will give clues to how objects burn up on re-entry
A chance to observe the high-speed re-entry of a falling satellite will give researchers important insights on how debris burns up in our atmosphere ⌘ Read more
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@abucci@anthony.buc.ci OMFG! Dear jebus, look at the size of that! :-/ It is just a matter of time until one of those randomly falls on any of us. Just incredible!
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Does anyone knows how to clear sign a file with an SSH key? Clear sign, not a detached signature.
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Further thinking on it, this might not be possible at all.
Does anyone knows how to clear sign a file with an SSH key? Clear sign, not a detached signature.
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@movq@www.uninformativ.de LOL, well, great things come out of that worry, I can tell that much. Keep being you! :-)
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I'm SO enjoying the new
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jenny --fetch-context 😁
@movq@www.uninformativ.de I think you are worrying about a non-issue. I see nothing to do on your example twt, because there is no context. Furthermore, if I wanted to follow the feed, everything I need is already on that twt example. :-)
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This tool, using age is pretty neat: https://github.com/ndavd/agevault. So simple, yet seemingly powerful!
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@mckinley@twtxt.net agevault uses age, allegedly very secure (aiming to replace pgp/gpg). Comparing it with gocryptfs, from the user perspective, agevault seems simpler, though CLI exclusive. As the repository states, “Like age, it features no config options, allowing for a straightforward secure flow”. It would also run in all major OS platforms out of the box.
But agevault is also very new. Though age has been around for a while now, I don’t see an “audited” link (neither on agevault, nor age).