@thecanine@twtxt.net Woof woof! Thatâs a nice one. For a split second, the posture and the back legs reminded me of https://img.brickowl.com/files/image_cache/large/lego-monkey-with-yellow-hands-74499-99402-178585.jpg that I never had, but always wanted as a child.
@kiwu@twtxt.net Absolutely!
@prologic@twtxt.net @aelaraji@aelaraji.com Iâm glad you like âem. :-)
Magpie with nut photographed through a dirty window: https://lyse.isobeef.org/elster-2025-11-01/
Some cool color combinations: https://lyse.isobeef.org/abendhimmel-2025-10-31/
@aelaraji@aelaraji.com Oh nice, Iâll have to read this!
@arne@uplegger.eu Du bist ja auch nicht reprÀsentativ! :-D
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Never used Java FX.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah, give it a shot. At worst you know that you have to continue your quest. :-)
Fun fact, during a semester break I was actually a little bored, so I just started reading the Qt documentation. I didnât plan on using Qt for anything, though. I only looked at the docs because they were on my bucket list for some reason. Qt was probably recommended to me and coming from KDE myself, that was motivation enough to look at the docs just for fun.
The more I read, the more hooked I got. The documentation was extremely well written, something Iâve never seen before. The structure was very well thought out and I got the impression that I understood what the people thought when they actually designed Qt.
A few days in I decided to actually give it a real try. Having never done anything in C++ before, I quickly realized that this endeavor wonât succeed. I simply couldnât get it going. But I found the Qt bindings for Python, so that was a new boost. And quickly after, I discovered that there were even KDE bindings for Python in my package manager, so I immediately switched to them as that integrated into my KDE desktop even nicer.
I used the Python KDE bindings for one larger project, a planning software for a summer camp that we used several years. Itâs main feature was to see who is available to do an activity. In the past, that was done on a large sheet of paper, but people got assigned two activities at the same time or werenât assigned at all. So, by showing people in yellow (free), green (one activity assigned) and red (overbooked), this sped up and improved the planning process.
Another core feature was to generate personalized time tables (just like back in school) and a dedicated view for the morning meeting on site.
It was extended over the years with all sorts of stuff. E.g. I then implemented a warning if all the custodians of an activitiy with kids were underage to satisfy new the guidelines that there should be somebody of age.
Just before the pandemic I started to even add support for personalized live views on phones or tablets during the planning process (with web sockets, though). This way, people could see their own schedule or independently check at which day an activity takes place etc. For these side quests, they donât have to check the large matrix on the projector. But the project died there.
Hereâs a screenshot from one of the main views: https://lyse.isobeef.org/tmp/k3man.png
This Python+Qt rewrite replaced and improved the Java+Swing predecessor.
@bender@twtxt.net Itâs a great movie, enjoy! :-)
@prologic@twtxt.net Yep, thatâs heaps better, ta! <3
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Uh, that actually looks not that terrible. Somehow, I remember Swing GUIs being way uglier.
As for Visual Basic, I only had to use VBA once in my life. That was in the beginning of my career when I inherited a project from a leaving coworker. Fuck me, was that awful. Just alone the damn compiler error dialog box popping up in my face all the time while editing and the compiler already trying to parse the unfinished and hence of course uncompilable code. Boy, that left a lasting impression on me. I ported everything to Java very quickly. Luckily, the code base wasnât all that large at that point in time. I had to add a bunch of new features after that, so I was very glad that I convinced my workmate/project manager to do that first. We didnât even need a GUI, the button in Excel was transformed to a command line program that just generated the large file.
But I cannot comment on the VB GUI designer, I never used that. Your screenshot looks very similar to the Delphi one, though. Only towards the end of my Delphi days I found out about the possibility to make the widgets snap to window edges and corners (I donât remember how that was called), so that resizing the windows was actually possible without messing up their entire contents.
Switching to Linux, Delphi wasnât an option anymore. For some reason I couldnât use Kylix. Maybe it was already dead by the time I changed OSes. Or I couldnât get it to run. I just donât remember. I just recall that the unavailability of Delphi was the reason it took me a while to actually settle on Linux. I then fully switched to Java. The GridBagLayout was my absolutely favorite Swing layout manager. I reckon I used it 98% of the time, because it was so powerful and made the windows resize properly, just as I had learned to do in Delphi shortly before.
Up until discovering Swing, I used Javaâs AWT for a short amount of time. That was very limited I think and I hit the limits fairly quickly. Later at uni, we had one project making use of SWT. Didnât convince me either. I could be wrong, but I think there was also a SWT GUI designer plugin for Eclipse. If there really was, that one wasnât in the same street as Delphiâs (there must be a reason I forgot about it ;-)).
@bender@twtxt.net Kaboom! Hahaha, I did not think of that at all, thanks for pointing it out, mate! :â-D
But let me clarify just in case: I honestly do not want to bash this project. In fact, itâs a great little invention. Itâs just that Iâm not conviced by the current user interface decisions. Anyway, web design isnât right up my alley. I just wanted to add some fun. And luckily, at least someone liked it so far. :-)
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Donât you worry, this was meant as a joke. :-D
There was a time when I thought that Swing was actually really good. But having done some Qt/KDE later, I realized how much better that was. That were the late KDE 3 and early KDE 4 days, though. Not sure how it is today. But back then it felt Trolltech and the KDE folks put a hell lot more thought into their stuff. I was pleasantly surprised how natural it appeared and all the bits played together. Sure, there were the odd ends, but the overall design was a lot better in my opinion.
To be fair, I never used it from C++, always the Python bindings, which were considerably more comfortable (just alone the possibility to specify most attributes right away as kwargs in the constructor instead of calling tons of setters). And QtJambi, the Java binding, was also relatively nice. I never did a real project though, just played around with the latter.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de The one for Delphi was quite good. But JCreator (I donât remember exactly) was awful and I never looked back to GUI designers. Always layed out the GUI by hand in code myself since then. These days I donât deal with GUI programming anymore.
@bender@twtxt.net @prologic@twtxt.net Letâs see on which day weâll finally settle.
I reckon the white-space: nowrap is a bit evil on the gatherly notes, though.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de HĂ€hĂ€hĂ€, letâs feed the trolls! :->
@aelaraji@aelaraji.com Nice! :-) Since vim is quite advanced cavemanery, you could probably even remap Enter when editing the twtxt.txt.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Java/Swing!
@bender@twtxt.net Hm, are we talking about different dates or are there different timezone offsets for this timezone abbreviation? With EDT being UTC-4, 2025-11-02T12:00:00Z is Sunday at 8:00 in the morning local time for you. Or were did I mess up here? :-?
@prologic@twtxt.net You want me to submit a reply with âI probably wonât show upâ?
Not that I really understand everything, but this is a really cool talk: https://media.ccc.de/v/38c3-hacking-the-rp2350
@bender@twtxt.net @prologic@twtxt.net I got confused again, but luckily, the 2nd November 2025 at noon UTC is right on a Sunday in my timezone. :-)
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Hahaha, now Iâm curious what use case you have in mind. :-D
@prologic@twtxt.net Ouch, I donât want to get hit by these projectiles! :-O Is that black tube on the bottom the remains of a chair leg?
I reckon one could collect these hail stones and put them in the drinks to work around the lost air conditioning. At least if one doesnât mind icy drinks. (I canât stand that, because I immediately get hickup when drinking something cold.)
Sunsets never get old: https://lyse.isobeef.org/abendhimmel-2025-10-27/
@bender@twtxt.net Ohhh! Well, this Sunday is even more unlikely as Iâm probably helping a mate in the woods. But maybe weâre quicker than I think.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Itâs way more expensive and time-consuming in the end. If only somebody had warned us!!1
The triangle reminds me of zalgo text: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zalgo_text
A mate just sent me Microsoftâs magnificent master piece diagram regarding the end of life of Windows 10: https://support.microsoft.com/de-de/windows/windows-10-support-wurde-am-14-oktober-2025-eingestellt-2ca8b313-1946-43d3-b55c-2b95b107f281
Thatâs what you get for training with zalgo. :-D Of course, this isnât even proper German.
In case they fix it, hereâs a screenshot of the enlarged frontal crash: https://lyse.isobeef.org/tmp/win10eol.png
Weâre supposed to see storm gusts up to 79Â km/h. Letâs get the kites!
(I know, this is nothing for folks at the coasts.)
@arne@uplegger.eu @movq@www.uninformativ.de Der reine Spielzeugladen im Nachbarort hat auch schon vor Jahren dicht gemacht. Online gibtâs das halt alles deutlich gĂŒnstiger.
Turned out I didnât make it, sorry. Maybe next time. I hope you had a great yarn, @prologic@twtxt.net and @bender@twtxt.net, and didnât waste any time waiting for me.
We had some gray soup with the occasional fine rain with strong wind gusts. Despite the bad forecast we took the train to Geislingen/Steige and strolled up to the Helfenstein castle ruin. All the colorful leaves were so beautiful, it didnât matter that the sun was behind thick layers of clouds.
We then continued to the Ădenturm (lit. boring tower). By then the wind had picked up by quite a bit, just as the weatherman predicted. We were very positively surprised that the Swabian Jura Association had opened up the tower. Between May and October, the tower is typically only manned on Sundays and holidays between 10 and 17 oâclock. But yesterday was Saturday and no holiday. The lovely lady up there told us that theyâre currently experimenting with opening up on Saturday, too, because there are some highly motivated members responsible for the tower.
We were the very first visitors on that day. Last Sunday, when the weather lived up to the weekdayâs name, they counted 128 people up in the tower. Very impressive.
The wind gusts were howling around the tower. Luckily, there are glass windows. So, it was quite pleasant up in the tower room. Chatting with the tower guard for a while, we got even luckier: the sun came out! That was really awesome. The photos donât do justice. As always, it looked way more stunning in person.
Thanks to all the volunteers who make it possible to enjoy the view from the thirty odd meters up there. That certainly made our day!
After signing the guestbook we climbed down the staircase and returned to the station and headed back. The train even arrived on time. What a great little trip!
https://lyse.isobeef.org/wanderung-auf-die-burgruine-helfenstein-und-den-oedenturm-2025-10-25/
@prologic@twtxt.net @bender@twtxt.net I might join, but cannot tell for sure at the moment.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de My impression also is that good sysadmins are missing. No wonder if they all get laid off because theyâre ânot doing anythingâ and developers can just operate their shit themselves. Or so the bosses and plenty devs think. Sadly, thatâs the general view.
Hell no, devops is bullshit in my opinion. Most developers (including myself) are rather bad at administrating. A good sysadmin offers other skills. Great admins appear to just sit around, but theyâre much more proactively working than programmers who also operate the same stuff. The latter have a waaay more reactive work model in comparison. When things have already gone south. The sysadmin, on the other hand, would have noticed and thus prevented the vast majority very early on when it was far from becoming a problem in the future.
At least thatâs my personal experience in all those years in different projects and what my mates tell me from their companies. Sure, skills can be learned, but itâs just not happening (enough). And obviously, there are people out there who excel in both disciplines, but they are rare. Most fall in one of the categories. Not to forget, plenty are just bad at everything. :-)
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Oh, we like to be paranoid. Weâve been right so many times. Unfortunately.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah, new cars are totally out of question. If I ever have to, only rather old ones are contemplable.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Holy fuck! Whoever bought such a bed fully deserves this. There isnât the faintest trace of pity on my face.
@prologic@twtxt.net I donât want to defend this, but at least over here a SIM card is necessary for the mandatory emercency call by law in case of a crash: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECall Of course, this enables all sorts of other shenanigans.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Ah! Maybe, but just maybe, this weight helps to keep the device from wandering around if a CD is spinning inside. CDs should be pretty well balanced, though.
Good luck with the replacement of the capacitors and reviving this player! :-)
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Where the heck did you find that? What is that thing? Yeah, totally looks like an attempt to make some garbage feel more solid. Unless this steel plate is actually used for attaching bolts from the other side or something like that. Which I highly doubt, given that there are muuuuuch cheaper options to install various types of nuts in plastic.
Yeah, this goo makes it just harder to disconnect. I bet it doesnât add water protection to the connections at all.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Ăber den musste ich auch sehr lachen. :-D
Hahaha, in dieser Liste https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzerin:Anneke_Wolf/Edits_des_Grauens sind schon echte Perlen enthalten, z.B. https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Baustelle&diff=prev&oldid=18568598 :-D
@movq@www.uninformativ.de I havenât noticed an increase in flies here, feels totally normal. Just a bit more fruit flies in the house with all the windfall gathering. It was worse the past years, though.
@bender@twtxt.net I thought the same. Or just donât clean it at all to add to the patina. :-)
The colorful autumn looks stunning, even with a gray sky. https://lyse.isobeef.org/spaziergang-zum-oedenturm-2025-10-12/
Jason delivers again! This pallet wood coffee table looks truly fantastic, but cleaning the surface might be not the easiest thing in the world I reckon: https://youtu.be/3weDt0GCa-Q
@movq@www.uninformativ.de @prologic@twtxt.net Unfortunately, I had to review a coworkerâs code that was also spewed out the same way. It was abso-fucking-lutely horrible. I didnât know upfront, but then asked afterwards and got the proud (!) answer that it indeed was âassistedâ. I bet this piece of garbage result was never checked or questioned the tiniest bit before submitting for review. >:-( It didnât even do the right thing as a bonus.
What a giant shitshow. Things just have to burn to the ground several times.
@alexonit@twtxt.alessandrocutolo.it Hahaha, why does this sound so familiar? :-D
@alexonit@twtxt.alessandrocutolo.it Hell yeah, that looks great! :-) What a pity youâre not having any photos, though. I love that you went to a craftsmanship school and learned some amazing skills. The older I get, the more I admire all sorts of crafts. Thatâs also why I started building physical stuff myself in my spare time.
This sketch is well done, so you countersunk the holes to make room for the heads. Makes absolutely sense. Mille grazie! <3
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah, itâs lovely out there right now.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Thatâs satisfying. :-) Not all my clocks are radio-controlled, though.
Iâve got a digital alarm clock from the Netherlands (no idea where I got this) and it always runs an hour late. No clue. I put it on a shelf in the workshop where it causes the least amount of confusion.
@prologic@twtxt.net Oh, I will certainly check this out! Thanks for the tip, mate! <3
I went on a short stroll in the woods and came across two great spotted woodpeckers. They were busy with their courtship display, I reckon, so it took them a while to notice me and escape into thicker parts out of sight. That was really awesome. There are a lot of apples and sloes now, looking really good. The cam issues still persist, though, I wish the photos were sharper. Also, I got the error that the function wheel was not adjusted correctly and alledgedly pointed between two options numerous times. And no, it was bang on a setting. https://lyse.isobeef.org/waldspaziergang-2025-10-07/
In todayâs blurry photos series: https://lyse.isobeef.org/rabe-2025-10-06/
@prologic@twtxt.net Oh, thatâs cool! :-) Feeding magpies seems to be an Aussie thing, the Cutting Edge Engineering Australia videos usually also include a cute magpie feeding clip.
@bender@twtxt.net Off you go to the magpie hunt! We wanna see Florida pies!
Today, I experimented with Linux Capabilities as a continuation to my Unix Domain Sockets research from a few months ago: https://lyse.isobeef.org/caller-information-via-unix-domain-sockets/#capabilities
I learned that I donât know hardly anything and there is heaps more to explore. Tomorrow, I will do the same in Go and see how that feels.
I got the magpie again this morning: https://lyse.isobeef.org/elster-2025-10-05/ 02 is at takeoff.
Oh great, I got two order confirmation e-mails. No, I didnât click twice, same order number, two different Message-IDs.
@alexonit@twtxt.alessandrocutolo.it Thanks mate! Ah cool, now Iâm curious, what did you make? :-)
You used the rubber hammer to fold the metal, not to set the rivets, right? :-? I glued cork on my wooden mallet some time ago. This worked quite good for bending. But rubber might be even better as it is a tad softer. I will try this next time, I think I have one deep down in a drawer somewhere.
@zvava@twtxt.net No HEAD requests, but regular GETs with If-Modified-Since request headers if possible: https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/yarn/src/branch/main/internal/fetcher.go#L270
Flamy skies are always great to look at: https://lyse.isobeef.org/abendhimmel-2025-10-04/
I experimented with a 2.4x7mm aluminium rivet I had on hand. As expected, it was quite a bit long. Using my pliers wrench, I was able to crush it down by quite some bit. I should have taken a photo right after the hand riveter for comparison. Now, itâs much smoother and the chance of cutting my hand open is reduced by quite a bit. But breaking the burr with a few file strokes is still necessary. I should get 2.4x4mm rivets and try with them. I reckon they would be more suited for my 0.5mm sheet metal.
With the pliers wrench again, I was able to also crush down the chopped off 3mm copper nail and form a second head. That was surprisingly easy. Now, I need to figure out how to efficiently make a head on the remaining copper nail shaft, so that I can use this again.
Both are rock solid, thereâs absolutely no movement at all between the two sheet metal cutoffs.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Too bad. :-/
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yep, thereâs python3-tk and a bunch more packages with extensions.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Nice! Are there still chicken on this field?
@movq@www.uninformativ.de I never programmed with Tkinter myself and itâs been ages that I ran a program which used it. I always thought that it looks awful. But maybe there are nicer themes these days. I just wanted to give the demo python3 -m tkinter a try, but this module doesnât exist. I was always under the wrong impression that Tkinter is bundled with Python.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de I was never a fan of GTK, because coming from KDE, it didnât offer remotely as much of customizability. What are you switching to, Xfce?
@zvava@twtxt.net yarnd fetches the feeds roughly every ten minutes:
grep twtxt.net www/logs/twtxt.log | cut -d ' ' -f1 | tail -n 20
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I suspect that the timing was just right. Or wrong, depending on how youâre looking at it. ;-)
Uuuhhh, thatâs rather interesting, I didnât know about that:
Aachen has been officially certified as âBad Aachenâ, but for alphabetical reasons usually declines to use the prefix
â https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spa_towns_in_Germany#A
That made me chuckle.
Sieht ganz so aus, als hĂ€tte die gute @kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz ihre BĂŒchse mit in den Kurort Bad Gateway genommen.
Sorry, this pun only works in German, where âBadâ means spa and is used as prefix for spa towns.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de It completely escapes me, too. I will never understand it, but people are just wired very differently.
Relevant film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYNbSuMLZZg
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Yeah, the lighting needs to be right in order to make them really pop like this. I got lucky today. :-)
My photos are categorized as crafts porn for my workmates: https://lyse.isobeef.org/tmp/porn.png
The main feed got quite large again, so itâs time for another rotation into archive feeds. I just noticed that I forgot to upload the archive feeds last time. Whoops. :-)
Autumn and magpie around the corner: https://lyse.isobeef.org/elster-2025-10-02/
Okay, they are also offering 2.8x25mm copper nails. Which I actually do have a single one here. :-)
My hardware collection also includes a few brass-like looking screws that I could repurpose into rivets. But I reckon I have to upgrade my burner first. Iâm not a metal worker by any means, so I could be totally wrong, but I imagine that some heat is necessary to loosen the work-hardening effect when beating on them. I will do some experiments on Saturday and report back.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Not sure, if this observation is correct. I know so many techies who also use every latest shit and automate their homes which is scary as hell to me.
@alexonit@twtxt.alessandrocutolo.it I just checked my local hardware store next town and 4mm brass rod is the closest I find.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de No doubt, some things are just so much better the low-tech way. Waste paper, like an opened envelope, suits a shopping list perfectly fine. Youâve got a nice handwriting, I like it.
@thecanine@twtxt.net Oh no, the poor crocodile is struck by lightning!
There was a monster in the sky: https://lyse.isobeef.org/abendhimmel-2025-10-01/
@movq@www.uninformativ.de I wish I could truly say that. :-D
Thanks, @alexonit@twtxt.alessandrocutolo.it! Yeah, this classic rivet is a good, yet laborous alternative. I donât mind the work, I just donât have any copper at hand. I might give this some more thought, though.
@alexonit@twtxt.alessandrocutolo.it Hahaha, that made me laugh real good. :-D I find it always surprising what collects in a short amount of time.
(#abcdefghijkl https://example.com/tw.txt#:~:text=2025-10-01T10:28:00Z), because it can be simply hacked in to clients currently on hashv1 and provides an off-ramp to location-based addressing (though i still think the format should be changed to smth like #<abc... http://example.com/...> so it's cleaner once we finally drop hashes)
      
    
    
    
    @zvava@twtxt.net Mixing both addressing schemes combines the worst of both worlds in my opinion. Please donât do that.
url metadata field unequivocally treated as the canon feed url when calculating hashes, or are they ignored if they're not at least proper urls? do you just tolerate it if they're impersonating someone else's feed, or pointing to something that isn't even a feed at all?
      
    
    
    
    @zvava@twtxt.net Yes, the specification defines the first url to be used for hashing. No matter if it points to a different feed or whatever. Just unsubscribe from malicious feeds and youâre done.
Since the first url is used for hashing, it must never change. Otherwise, it will break threading, as you already noticed. If your feed moves and you wanna keep the old messages in the same new feed, you still have to point to the old url location and keep that forever. But you can add more urls. As I said several times in the past, in hindsight, using the first url was a big mistake. It would have been much better, if the last encountered url were used for hashing onwards. This way, feed moves would be relatively straightforward. However, that ship has sailed. Luckily, feeds typically donât relocate.
Haha, turns out, itâs the perfect size to fit hankies: https://lyse.isobeef.org/tmp/blechschachtel/07.jpg
Thank you, @alexonit@twtxt.alessandrocutolo.it! Itâs not sealed at all. If you were pouring in a liquid, it would run out on all four corners. Itâs just folded over and carefully hammered shut as best as possible. 03 is a bit blurred, but you can see the tab from the right (the short side) tucking in on the left (the long side). The hem on top clamps it in place fairly decently.
I decided against blind rivets, because they leave ugly looking and sharp backsides, which can also interfer with the contents of the box. However, they would be an easy solution to make the corners more rigid and prevent any movement from the short sides.
Unfortunately, I canât weld or solder, so thatâs not an option. It would be the by far best solution. I wanna learn it one day, though.
Yes, Ken is a really great dude. Heâs the reason I gave this a shot in the first place. :-)
@itsericwoodward@itsericwoodward.com No worries, all good, mate! We all have to start somewhere. Other software requests my feed several orders of magnitude more often.
I can confirm, the User-Agent header appears to be fixed. \o/
Two other things I noticed, though:
Thereâs now an
OPTIONSrequest for my feed coming from something that claims to be Firefox, pointing to your feed URL in the query. No clue what this is about. In any case, itâs rejected with a405 Method Not Allowed.Not that these few requests bother me at all, but you might wanna implement caching next with either the
If-Modified-SinceorIf-None-Matchrequest headers. This way, if the feed hasnât changed, the web server can reply with a304 Not Modifiedand no body at all, saving unnecessary traffic. But again, this is really not an issue for me at all. I just wanted to make sure youâre aware of it, thatâs all. It might be even already on your agenda. Or you might decide to never do anything about it, which is also fine for me. :-)
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    @movq@www.uninformativ.de Itâs an ancient 1.22.4. :-)
@movq@www.uninformativ.de I got an empty line through the table, similarly to one of the linked bug reports, just at a different location:
https://lyse.isobeef.org/tmp/screenshot-2025-09-27-13-56-13.png
@bender@twtxt.net @movq@www.uninformativ.de Thank you! Not sure what I end up putting in there, but Iâm sure I will find some tools to go in. :-)
Yes, this was a flat piece of sheet metal. It went together like a cardboard box, just much slower and with timbers clamped down to get a straight folding line. I donât have a sheet metal brake, so I just carefully hammered the piece bit by bit. Like in this video by the Sheet Metal Dude: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYgEfWEMXk0
For a very first attempt, Iâm extremely happy how this tray turned out: https://lyse.isobeef.org/tmp/blechschachtel/ The photos look rougher than in person. The 0.5mm aluminium sheet was 300x200mm to begin with. Now, the accidental outside dimensions are 210x110mm. It took me about an hour to make. Tomorrow, I gotta build a simple folder, so I donât have to hammer it anymore, but can simply bend it a little at a time.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de You didnât miss anything. Just time for more useful stuff. ;-)
@alexonit@twtxt.alessandrocutolo.it You might wanna have a look at this: https://lyse.isobeef.org/tmp/twthash.py
Exactly, @zvava@twtxt.net, I agree. (Although, in my client at least, I wouldnât use hashes anywhere.)