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Recent twts in reply to #zbsrabq

👋 Hey y’all yarners 🤗 – @darch@neotxt.dk and I have been discussing in our Weekly Yarn.social call (still ongoing… come join us! 🙏) about the experimental Yarn.social <-> Activity Pub integration/bridge I’ve been working on… And mostly whether it’s even a good idea at al, and if we should continue or not?

There are still some outstanding issues that would need to be improved if we continued this regardless

Some thoughts being discussed:

  • Yarn.social pods are more of a “family”, where you invite people into your “home” or “community”
  • Opening up to the “Fedivise” is potentially “uncontrolled”
  • Even at a small scale (a tiny dev pod) we see activities from servers never interacted with before
  • The possibility of abuse (because basically anything can POST things to your Pod now)
  • Pull vs. Push model polarising models/views which whilst in theory can be made to work, should they?

Go! đź‘Ź

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I don’t like where this is going with a push-model like Activity Pub being mixed up with yarn social. Activity Pub might be all for freedom of speech, but with the issue that @prologic@twtxt.net outline the is a real potential of it turning into freedom of shouting.

What I really like about twtxt is that is based on a principle of freedom to listen where you can chose who to follow and are not force-fed someone else’s agenda, that you don’t care about or want to deal with.

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@prologic@twtxt.net to be fair, I don’t really see a difference here: with the integration, users still only see the feeds they choose to read (either as a twtxt or AP), right? Or this is more a problem of the integration making the network “grow too fast”?

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And mostly whether it’s even a good idea at al, and if we should continue or not?

I think that activitypub in yarn is a great feature! And also one of the easier ones to set up and get going.
And as I said last week - I think it’s a important features - and will drive adoption.
It is optional as well - so if one does not want it - just not turn that feature on.

I personally was missing the fact that I could not easily follow others before you added activitypub, but now I can choose to follow them, which is great.

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@prologic@twtxt.net I see: I was speaking in the end user’s perspective tho, I suppose those concerns only really affect the pod owner? And, if that is the case, giving a pod owner the ability to toggle AP integration on/off us probably good enough to mitigate those concerns?

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I’m worried that Yarn will become just another ActivityPub frontend. This integration threatens to split the community in two. Users of Twtxt clients without ActivityPub support won’t want to follow Yarn users because they’ll be engaged in conversations that are inaccessible to standard Twtxt clients. It will only force the split deeper if ActivityPub is an option to be toggled by users or pod operators.

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