@prologic@twtxt.net Is there any plans for DMs to become a feature at all?
@screem@yarn.yarnpods.com We tried once and it didn’t work out so well 😂
To further expand on this… @fastidious@arrakis.netbros.com and I have been discussing this on/off for a while now and explored all the various options that exists out there including Delta.Chat, Matrix, various XMPP-based solutions, etc. All of them literally suck in terms of their properties of “Self Hosted”, “Private/Secure” or “Ease of use”.
So… If we build one, it’ll be a completely separate (but eventually integrated) thing. But I believe at a bare minimum (for me anyway) it has to have:
- Secure and Private by design
- Operationally easy to stand up and run on say a RPi
- Actually have a User Experience that doesn’t suck
The only thing that really comes close in my mind is some combination of the Signal Protocol (for security/privacy) + IRC (for transport and ease of oeprations) and the Useability of say Signal/iMessages/Messenger/etc – One could argue that Matrix is exactly that, but it isn’t IHMO. I’m not aware it has a mobile first app, it also tries to do too many things and there are no decent implementations that are operationally easy to stand up.
@screem@yarn.yarnpods.com I’m afraid, we’d have to build it 😅 Unless someone can point to me a viable solution that meets the requirements of Self Hosted, Decentralised, Operationally mature and Ease of use – I haven’t found one! 😂– The closest thing would be Signal, if it’s backend weren’t written in Java™ 😂
And if Signal actually supported connecting to other “brokers”