Something odd just happened to my twtxt timeline… A bunch of twts dissapered, others were marked to be deleted in mutt. so I nuked my whole twtxt Maildir and deleted my ~/.cache/jenny in order to start with a fresh Pull. I pulled feed as usual. Now like HALF the twts aren’t there 😂 even my my last replay. WTF IS GOING ON? 🤣🤣🤣
@aelaraji@aelaraji.com hmm, I see all of your twtxts just fine. Now, that’s a puzzle!
@quark@ferengi.one here is an example: This Thread is not showing up in Mutt 🤔 Something is off!
I’ll set up jenny and mutt on another computer and see how it goes from there.
@aelaraji@aelaraji.com no, it is not just you. Do fetch the parent with jenny, and you will see there are two messages with different hash. Soren did something funky, for sure.
See:
Message-Id: <hns535a@twtxt>
X-twtxt-feed-url: https://darch.dk/twtxt.txt
In-Reply-To: <pvju5cq@twtxt>
And
Message-Id: <weadxga@twtxt>
X-twtxt-feed-url: http://darch.dk/twtxt.txt
In-Reply-To: <pvju5cq@twtxt>
Two feed URLs, one HTTPS, the other HTTP.
Two different “from” too:
"sorenpeter (soren)" <sorenpeter>
sorenpeter <sorenpeter>
More:
Subject: The [tag URI scheme](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag_URI_scheme) looks interesting. I like that it human read- and writable. And since we already got the timestamp in the twtxt.txt it would be
somewhat trivial to parse. But there are still the issue with what the name/id should be... Maybe it doesn't have to bee that stick? Instead of using `tag:` as the prefix/protocol, it would more it clear
what we are talking about by using `in-reply-to:` (https://indieweb.org/in-reply-to) or `replyto:` similar to `mailto:` 1. `(reply:sorenpeter@darch.dk,2024-09-15T12:06:27Z)' 2.
`(in-reply-to:darch.dk/twtxt.txt,2024-09-15T12:06:27Z)' 2. `(replyto:http://darch.dk/twtxt.txt,2024-09-15T12:06:27Z)' I know it's longer that 7-11 characters, but it's self-explaining when looking at the
twtxt.txt in the raw, and the cases above can all be caught with this regex: `\([\w-]*reply[\w-]*\:` Is this something that would work?
Subject: The [tag URI scheme](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag_URI_scheme) looks interesting. I like that it human read- and writable. And since we already got the timestamp in the twtxt.txt it would be
somewhat trivial to parse. But there are still the issue with what the name/id should be... Maybe it doesn't have to bee that stick? Instead of using `tag:` as the prefix/protocol, it would more it clear
what we are talking about by using `in-reply-to:` (https://indieweb.org/in-reply-to) or `replyto:` similar to `mailto:` 1. `(reply:sorenpeter@darch.dk,2024-09-15T12:06:27Z)` 2.
`(in-reply-to:darch.dk/twtxt.txt,2024-09-15T12:06:27Z)` 3. `(replyto:http://darch.dk/twtxt.txt,2024-09-15T12:06:27Z)` I know it's longer that 7-11 characters, but it's self-explaining when looking at the
twtxt.txt in the raw, and the cases above can all be caught with this regex: `\([\w-]*reply[\w-]*\:` Is this something that would work?
Notice the difference? Soren edited, and broke everything.
The wiered thing is Twtxt fetches everything just fine (I think) except for not having the convenience of having replays grouped into threads.
FIX: Temporarily removed sorenpeter’s twtxt link from my follow list, whipped my twtxt Maildir and jenny Cache. Only then I was able to fetch everything as usual (I think). Now I’ll backup things and see what happens if I pull sorenpeter’s feed.
No keyboards were harmed during this experiment… yet.
Done and done! everything is back to normal! 🥳
@aelaraji@aelaraji.com grats! See how much trouble an edited twtxt can cause? Wish there was a simpler solution. Alas, I don’t have much hope.
@quark@ferengi.one We will fix this soon™ 🔜
@aelaraji@aelaraji.com What was going on here? 🥴 Wiping the maildir and ~/.cache/jenny should reset everything, it doesn’t store any other state. 🤔
@movq@www.uninformativ.de I wiped both ~/.cache/jenny and my maildir_target when I tried to reset things. Still got wrecked 😅
If it’s not too much to ask, could you backup or/change your maildir_target and give it a try with an empty directory?
@aelaraji@aelaraji.com Yep, I just tried. It’s not that easy to verify, though. 😅 It looks fine to me. The number of twts in the maildir has gone down from 61759 to 34787 – but that’s probably because I unfollowed lots of (presumably dead) feeds in the last few weeks. 🥴
No, something is fishy. It didn’t fetch @prologic@twtxt.net’s archived feeds and now only 969 of his twts are in my maildir. 🤔
This is a bug in jenny. 🤦
@movq@www.uninformativ.de use @xuu pod as default instead, as he keeps the cache as long as I used to keep mine when I ran Yarn. @prologic@twtxt.net’s pod expires then way too soon.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de I’d guess the same goes for all twtxt.social feeds… I can’t see bender’s archived twts either, didn’t check for the others.
no my fault your client can’t handle a little editing ;)
@sorenpeter@darch.dk It’s nobody’s fault! 😇 It’s all part of the fun with them Ones and Zeros
@aelaraji@aelaraji.com We just have to write better clients 🤣 I have figured out how to detect edits FWIW, but haven’t gone from R&D phase to an actual design and implementation. But it is possible to detect an edit as well as a similarity score and the matching Twts.