Russia blowing up the Nova Kakhovka dam is an incomprehensible war crime. Among other things, it drains water from the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, water that is needed for cooling. They are trying to generate a widespread disaster.
They must be stopped, immediately, without hesitation. This is unacceptable behavior, crossing every red line we have no matter our politics, without any doubt.
This demands a response from Europe, the world, not just Ukraine.
Hmmm whilst I agree with you, I worry about this sort of thing s lot.
Violence begets violence
@prologic@twtxt.net I said nothing about an international violent response. You added that 🤔
If someone punches you in the face over and over again, you don’t stand there and take it to avoid “begetting violence”. You stop them from punching you, and do your best to ensure they never punch you again. That’s not “violence begets violence”. That’s rationality.
Yeah I get what you mean; but Putin is a mad man 😱
@prologic@twtxt.net I don’t agree. I think he’s a thug who benefits a lot if everybody thinks he’s a madman.
All through this war, there has been a repeated cycle:
- We can’t give Ukraine weapon X; that will provoke Putin and he’ll drop a nuke!
- Russian propagandists threaten they’re about to drop nukes
- After lots of hand wringing, some country gives weapon X to Ukraine
- No nukes are dropped
We’re on like the 5th iteration of this. Now it’s about F-16 fighter jets. In the meantime, a lot of Ukrainians AND Russians are dying en masse.
@abucci@anthony.buc.ci Ahh I see. Admittedly I haven’t been really following the the war, maybe I should have, but I find the whole things a waste of human existence 😢 I only hope one day Putin and his “henchmen” pay for their crimes.
@prologic@twtxt.net yeah, it’s a horrible waste.
@abucci@anthony.buc.ci I think the problem is that NATO does not want to get directly involved, because that scales up everything.
So they provide with the things they can to help instead. It worries me a bit (even though I live in the South of Norway - and Russia borders in the north), but it helps a lot that we have Sweden and Finland next to us. But if shit hits the fan - then it won’t be easy to get anywhere from here, unless we steal a boat and go to England or something like that (or get on a plane).
I try not to worry, but it’s in the back of my mind still.. But we have talked about it in my family, and if things happen then we have a plan on what to do first.
@abucci@anthony.buc.ci I agree with you on this, and find it crazy that he’s not been stopped yet.
Has anyone tried to call Mr. Putin and say please stop? 🤔
@stigatle@yarn.stigatle.no I think I understand NATO’s hesitation, but at the same time if this drags on and on for years then it causes massive loss of life and is even more dangerous for everyone. If that nuclear power plant melts down, whether because Russia causes it directly or because of an “accident”, then all of Europe can be blanketed with fallout. The longer this goes on, the more likely that possibility (and worse ones!) becomes.
That is scary to be so close to Russia. I hope you’re doing OK.
@prologic@twtxt.net I tried to call him but he wouldn’t answer the phone 😞
@abucci@anthony.buc.ci yeah, I see your point. but it’s sad to say it’s better witha blown nuclear reactor the nuke bombs being dropped around. But yeah, hope this shit ends soon. we do not notice it here at all, but the military is ramping up in the north, which is good, and much needed.
I found this to be a good thread on the subject of how the media is covering the dam explosion. The author, Timothy Snyder, is a history professor at Yale and has consistently good commentary on the war in Ukraine.