@falsifian@www.falsifian.org Do you have specifics about the GRPD law about this?

Would the GDPR would apply to a one-person client like jenny? I seriously hope not. If someone asks me to delete an email they sent me, I donā€™t think I have to honour that request, no matter how European they are.

Iā€™m not sure myself now. So letā€™s find out whether parts of the GDPR actually apply to a truly decentralised system? šŸ¤”

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@prologic@twtxt.net I have no specifics, only hopes. (I have seen some articles explaining the GDPR doesnā€™t apply to a ā€œpurely personal or household activityā€ but I donā€™t really know what that means.)

I donā€™t know if itā€™s worth giving much thought to the issue unless either you expect to get big enough for the GDPR to matter a lot (I imagine making money is a prerequisite) or someone specifically brings it up. Unless you enjoy thinking through this sort of thing, of course.

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@falsifian@www.falsifian.org Iā€™m curious myself now and might look it up (or even ask some of our legal guys/gals šŸ˜…).

I think none of this matters to people outside the EU anyway. These arenā€™t your laws. Even if you were to start a company in the US, it would only be a marketing instrument for you: ā€œHey, look, we follow GDPR!ā€ EU people might then be more inclined to become your customers. But thatā€™s it.

That said, Iā€™m not sure anymore if there are any other treaties between the EU and the US which cover such things ā€¦

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Yeah Iā€™m curious to find out too beyond just ā€œhere sayā€. But regardless of whether we should or shouldnā€™t care about this or should or shouldnā€™t comply. We should IMO. Iā€™d have to build something that horrendously violates someoneā€™s rights in another country.

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This has specifically come up before in the form of ā€œinformal complaintsā€ against yarnd because of the way it permanently stores and archives Twts, so even if you decide you changed your mind, or deleted that line out of your feed, if my pod or @xuu or @abucci@anthony.buc.ci or @eldersnake@we.loveprivacy.club (or any other handful of pods still around?) saw the Twt, itā€™d be permanently archived.

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@movq@www.uninformativ.de @falsifian@www.falsifian.org @prologic@twtxt.net Maybe I donā€™t know what Iā€™m talking about and Youā€™ve probably already read this: Everything you need to know about the ā€œRight to be forgottenā€ coming straight out of the EUā€™s GDPR Website itself. It outlines the specific circumstances under which the right to be forgotten applies as well as reasons that trump the oneā€™s right to erasure ā€¦etc.

Iā€™m no lawyer, but my uneducated guess would be that:

A) twts are already publicly available/public knowledge and suchā€¦ just donā€™t process childrenā€™s personal data and MAYBE youā€™re good? Since thereā€™s this:

ā€¦ an organizationā€™s right to process someoneā€™s data might override their right to be forgotten. Here are the reasons cited in the GDPR that trump the right to erasure:

  • The data is being used to exercise the right of freedom of expression and information.
  • The data is being used to perform a task that is being carried out in the public interest or when exercising an organizationā€™s official authority.
  • The data represents important information that serves the public interest, scientific research, historical research, or statistical purposes and where erasure of the data would likely to impair or halt progress towards the achievement that was the goal of the processing.

B) What I love about the TWTXT sphere is itā€™s Human/Humane element! No deceptive algorithms, no Corpo B.S ā€¦etc. Just Humans. So maybe ā€¦ If we thought about it in this way, it wouldnā€™t heart to be even nicer to others/offering strangers an even safer space.
I could already imagine a couple of extreme cases where, somewhere, in this peaceful world oneā€™s exercise of freedom of speech could get them in Real trouble (if not danger) if found out, it wouldnā€™t necessarily have to involve something to do with Law or legal authorities. So, If someone asks, and maybe fearing fearing forā€¦ letā€™s just say ā€˜Their well beingā€™, would it heart if a pod just purged their content if itā€™s serving it publicly (maybe relay the info to other pods) and call it a day? It doesnā€™t have to be about some law/convention somewhere ā€¦ šŸ¤· I know! Too extreme, but Iā€™ve seen news of people whoā€™d gone to jail or got their lives ruined for as little as a silly joke. And it doesnā€™t even have to be about any of this.

P.S: Maybe make X tool check out robots.txt? Or maybe make long-term archives Opt-in? Opt-out?
P.P.S: Already Way too many MAYBEā€™s in a single twt! So Iā€™ll just shut up. šŸ˜…

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