In-reply-to » (#zwr3hiq) @prologic @bender @eapl.me I think opening another file is a bad idea because it adds complexity to the clients, breaks the single feed and I think keeping legacy clients will be more complex to add new features in the future. A modern approach is important. I'll be honest, I'm a bit tired of the fight around the direct message. Perhaps, we can remove it as an extension and use the alternative @prologic . My suggestion apparently doesn't like to the community. I have no problem with remove it.

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev i think salty.im integration would be great but i still don’t know how it possible

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In-reply-to » (#mfygfma) @eapl.me When it is up and running, I promise to add it to the specification. I will also include some corrections. The nature of twtxt does not allow us to selectively hide clients. It's a problem not with DM, but with any extension. @prologic Yes, it is a security hole. All dm-echo messages are readable. I intend it to be a debugging tool. Maybe I can include a warning message. If many of you see that it is a serious problem, I can remove the links. @xuu It's already much better than Mastodon :P . Maybe we can remove the sender and receiver references with an intermediary register.

@prologic@twtxt.net @bender@twtxt.net @eapl.me@eapl.me I think opening another file is a bad idea because it adds complexity to the clients, breaks the single feed and I think keeping legacy clients will be more complex to add new features in the future. A modern approach is important.
I’ll be honest, I’m a bit tired of the fight around the direct message. Perhaps, we can remove it as an extension and use the alternative @prologic@twtxt.net . My suggestion apparently doesn’t like to the community. I have no problem with remove it.

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In-reply-to » (#mfygfma) @eapl.me When it is up and running, I promise to add it to the specification. I will also include some corrections. The nature of twtxt does not allow us to selectively hide clients. It's a problem not with DM, but with any extension. @prologic Yes, it is a security hole. All dm-echo messages are readable. I intend it to be a debugging tool. Maybe I can include a warning message. If many of you see that it is a serious problem, I can remove the links. @xuu It's already much better than Mastodon :P . Maybe we can remove the sender and receiver references with an intermediary register.

https://salty.im/

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In-reply-to » (#mfygfma) @eapl.me When it is up and running, I promise to add it to the specification. I will also include some corrections. The nature of twtxt does not allow us to selectively hide clients. It's a problem not with DM, but with any extension. @prologic Yes, it is a security hole. All dm-echo messages are readable. I intend it to be a debugging tool. Maybe I can include a warning message. If many of you see that it is a serious problem, I can remove the links. @xuu It's already much better than Mastodon :P . Maybe we can remove the sender and receiver references with an intermediary register.

I think that having a dm-only.txt, twtxt-dm.txt or any other name for an alternative file is the most sensible approach. The name could be specified in the metadata.

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In-reply-to » (#mfygfma) @eapl.me When it is up and running, I promise to add it to the specification. I will also include some corrections. The nature of twtxt does not allow us to selectively hide clients. It's a problem not with DM, but with any extension. @prologic Yes, it is a security hole. All dm-echo messages are readable. I intend it to be a debugging tool. Maybe I can include a warning message. If many of you see that it is a serious problem, I can remove the links. @xuu It's already much better than Mastodon :P . Maybe we can remove the sender and receiver references with an intermediary register.

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Ahh I see 👌

@prologic@twtxt.net Yes, it is a security hole. All dm-echo messages are readable. I intend it to be a debugging tool. Maybe I can include a warning message. If many of you see that it is a serious problem, I can remove the links.

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In-reply-to » (#mfygfma) @eapl.me When it is up and running, I promise to add it to the specification. I will also include some corrections. The nature of twtxt does not allow us to selectively hide clients. It's a problem not with DM, but with any extension. @prologic Yes, it is a security hole. All dm-echo messages are readable. I intend it to be a debugging tool. Maybe I can include a warning message. If many of you see that it is a serious problem, I can remove the links. @xuu It's already much better than Mastodon :P . Maybe we can remove the sender and receiver references with an intermediary register.

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev maybe create a separate, completely distinct feed for DM? That way, clients do not need to do anything, only those wanted to “talk in private” follow themselves, using their very special dm-only.txt feeds. 😂

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In-reply-to » We’ve been on a trip to another city this weekend and one thing struck me as really odd:

@movq@www.uninformativ.de You just have to dress yourself up in a dog custume to pee on a tree, fence post or house wall. :-P

Depending on the hour, town halls and also graveyards are typically good options for public toilets. But yeah, you have to find them first. And then, there might be the “Nette Toilette”: https://www.die-nette-toilette.de/ (Unfortunately, you can’t see on the website which towns and cities participate in that concept. :-()

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We’ve been on a trip to another city this weekend and one thing struck me as really odd:

The lack of “public water” in our cities.

Almost no way of washing your hands or going to the toilet or whatever. You can’t even pee in a bush, because a) that’s illegal and b) there are no bushes!

(It’s always been that way, I just never noticed before. 🥴)

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In-reply-to » @eapl.me You asked me for private keys for testing purposes. I have added it to the bottom of this page: https://dm-echo.andros.dev/ It will soon be running. It won't be long now.

@eapl.me@eapl.me When it is up and running, I promise to add it to the specification. I will also include some corrections.
The nature of twtxt does not allow us to selectively hide clients. It’s a problem not with DM, but with any extension.
@prologic@twtxt.net Yes, it is a security hole. All dm-echo messages are readable. I intend it to be a debugging tool. Maybe I can include a warning message. If many of you see that it is a serious problem, I can remove the links.
@xuu@txt.sour.is It’s already much better than Mastodon :P . Maybe we can remove the sender and receiver references with an intermediary register.

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In-reply-to » @eapl.me You asked me for private keys for testing purposes. I have added it to the bottom of this page: https://dm-echo.andros.dev/ It will soon be running. It won't be long now.

not a big deal as I can skip those messages, but again, it’s an extension, so older clients shouldn’t be affected by a new feature.

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In-reply-to » @eapl.me You asked me for private keys for testing purposes. I have added it to the bottom of this page: https://dm-echo.andros.dev/ It will soon be running. It won't be long now.

I’m also thinking that some kind of tag might be needed to automatically hide twts from unknown extensions. For example our client doesn’t support DMs and always shows the !<nick url><encrypted_message> syntax which is meaningless.

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In-reply-to » @eapl.me You asked me for private keys for testing purposes. I have added it to the bottom of this page: https://dm-echo.andros.dev/ It will soon be running. It won't be long now.

well, I suggested that in https://eapl.me/timeline/conv/k2ob6bq

The idea was to help those following the spec in https://twtxt.dev/exts/directmessage.Html, to replicate the steps and validate whether your implementation gives the same result.

BTW, you could add a link to the spec in the echo web.

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In-reply-to » Good quote: «Corrects in private and congratulates in public». Or...: «Corrects in direct message and congratulates in twt» 😜

I correct in public, and congratulate the same. I expect similarly. I am all heart! ☺️

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In-reply-to » I am pleased to share with you the #twtxt version of my important news alerts: https://n8n.andros.dev/webhook/f0cfd6a6-60c8-4183-a26d-120bbd25a046

I personally really like the news minimalist (fuck it mentions are kind of broken atm here in the UI :/) feed myself, really good quality, very high signal 👌

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In-reply-to » Peering is back 🤞

Oops, I think this pod (twtxt.net) just sync ~1k missing root twts with god only knows which peers 🤦‍♂️ I forgot a couple of important key things:

  • Only coverage with a subset of peers
  • Only converge with trusted peers

Fuck me 🤣 Ooops. Sorry!

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In-reply-to » I am pleased to share with you the #twtxt version of my important news alerts: https://n8n.andros.dev/webhook/f0cfd6a6-60c8-4183-a26d-120bbd25a046

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev what made you pick the 600 points criteria? Just a pick in a whim, or something else? I have found that reaching the front page is merely a good enough range for me.

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In-reply-to » Based on a recent study of the brains of mice I estimated the human brain to have 200B cells/neurons and 50,000T connections. We have several orders of magnitude to go before we reach that kind of scale with these fucking stupid Big LLMs 🤣 And the best part of all? 🧐 It is estimated that the human brain only consumes the equivalent of 5 Watts of power !!! 🤣🤣🤣

Yeah same order of magnitude 👌 No relation mice other than the recent study that precisely measured the number of cells and connections in 1 cubic mm of brain tissue.

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In-reply-to » Based on a recent study of the brains of mice I estimated the human brain to have 200B cells/neurons and 50,000T connections. We have several orders of magnitude to go before we reach that kind of scale with these fucking stupid Big LLMs 🤣 And the best part of all? 🧐 It is estimated that the human brain only consumes the equivalent of 5 Watts of power !!! 🤣🤣🤣

One article assigning a draw of 20 watts to the human brain.

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In-reply-to » Based on a recent study of the brains of mice I estimated the human brain to have 200B cells/neurons and 50,000T connections. We have several orders of magnitude to go before we reach that kind of scale with these fucking stupid Big LLMs 🤣 And the best part of all? 🧐 It is estimated that the human brain only consumes the equivalent of 5 Watts of power !!! 🤣🤣🤣

@prologic@twtxt.net you wrote:

“Based on a recent study of the brains of mice I estimated the human brain to have 200B cells/neurons and 50,000T connections.”

What’s the relation between the brains of mice, and the human brain? I am kind of lost trying to make the connection.

I also read that it isn’t 5 watts, but more like 10-20 watts. Still a super tiny consumption, comparing to what it takes to run anything AI.

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In-reply-to » (#72ls54a) @prologic in this case it isn't vendor lock-in. I believe they do it because the carrier "eats" the costs (the interest part of the instalments). The phones are fully unlocked.

“Move to iOS” app continuously refused to run as intended and expected, so couldn’t migrate mum’s Android based phone data. Most of her stuff is on a Google account, but not the SMS/MMS/RCS messages. Haven’t found a way to export, then import those into iOS.

She isn’t too happy having to keep the old phone just for the messages. Need to find a way to go through them, export multimedia attachments, and import them into iOS. I don’t think it’s going to happen, but I am not letting her know yet. 😅

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