@bender@twtxt.net I think this would be a good idea as @movq@www.uninformativ.de and @andros@twtxt.andros.dev have done ✅ I may even join the experiments if I have any spare time to hack a custom yrand branch and run it up on say something like a yarnexp.mills.io or something 🤔

@bender@twtxt.net This ☝️

@sorenpeter@darch.dk No because as the spec statd originally, and we didn’t change that syntax at all:

Mentions are embedded within the text in either @ or @ format

So the lextwt parser we use will simply call this an invalid mention, which it does.

@sorenpeter@darch.dk Unfortunately it does break all clients, because the original spec stated:

Mentions are embedded within the text in either @ or @ format

In other words, why didn’t you all do the same that @movq@www.uninformativ.de did, and setup a completely different feed for this?

Why are we testing, or playing with, an alternate non-fully-compatible feed format within the same feed that we use daily?

But Yarn does not like it: https://twtxt.net/twt/yoatzwa

@ You seem to be a bit ahead of your time: https://darch.dk/timeline/conv/jl2mf2a

Yes it seem to work(ish) on timeline at least: https://darch.dk/timeline/post/imopblq

@bender@twtxt.net My point was that the suggested syntax for extending mentions to point to a specific message (@<nick url timestamp>) and having location based treading this way, might not break older clients, since they might just igonore the last value within the brackets.

@aelaraji@aelaraji.com Oh, sorry it’s a typo. Also developer previously worked in vk (making mobile app afaik). Not he hates him xD

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Haha that’s crazy! I’ve spent this evening trying to the same 😆 I still don’t havn’t reached my goal yet, but I’m getting there.

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz one of my servers’ number of currently running containers is 69. haha sex number

locked tf in today and set up prometheus + grafana + etc for my servers. grafana is demonic

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz this is one of my fave k-pop songs this year nmixx have been KILLING it

i love it when k-pop girls get to do unusual genres. you ever wanted to hear a k-pop girl group do something massive attack-ish with a bit of breakbeat? well we got it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy0qJC6IbgY

@thecanine@twtxt.net doggo!!!!!!!!!!!

smug woof

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev@andros@twtxt.andros.dev i know MVC but i don’t know model view view model what does this mean…. i am learning PHP (and a tiny bit of perl scripting) as a mainly ruby girl so mayhaps i am improving but my focus is SERVERS

@prologic@twtxt.net noted 🫡 🫡 🫡

@prologic@twtxt.net hahahahaha! Don’t you go watering that seed, mate 😅. I mean, we all dream about it, ain’t that right?

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Just like Friday’s right? 😅

@bender@twtxt.net Mondays should be optional.

So, Monday, we meet again. I mean, it is not a complain per se. I am glad to meet Monday! I am just not-so-glad to meet the working-from-office Monday. But, so it is.

@javivf@adn.org.es You’re free to send me a DM. 😉

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz HTMX is GREAT!
I used it in my TwtxtReader MK1 for pagination and posting. It just works!

@ About the URL, since it no longer used for hashing there might be no need to change it. I agree that we keep all the parts that already are out there for the most parts. Instead of a contact field you could also just use links like: link = Email mailto:user@example.dk or link = Signal https://signal.me/sthF4raI5Lg_ybpJwB1sOptDla4oU7p[...]

@sorenpeter@darch.dk you wrote:

“This might even be backward compatible with older (pre-yarn) clients.”

Yarnd is as backwards compatible with older clients as this. I dare to say, even more so. 😅

@sorenpeter@darch.dk Yes, there are interesting things that can be incorporated to see how they work.
The issue of allowing the use of Z for UTC is interesting. I think I should add a brief explanation.
The url issue is for a debate :D . Maybe an issue could be opened. My opinion is that it is necessary to leave it as it is right now because otherwise the thread system, or replies, may have problems (404s). It’s all a matter of discussion.
I like your idea of contact. I will add it.
Thanks to you for your feedback!!!

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Thanks for consolidating a lot of good ideas. Especially how you have deiced to just extend the mention syntax for location-based treads. This might even be backward compatible with older (pre-yarn) clients.
What about using Z for UTC +00:00- is that allowed in your specs?
Regarding url = I would suggest to only allow one and the maybe add url_old = or url_alt = !?
I’m still not a fan of a DM feature, even thou it helps that i have now been split out into a separate feed file. Instead if would suggest a contact = field for where people can put an email or other id/link for an established chat protocol like signal or matrix.

Tiens, on dirait que #ovh ne permet pas de définir un glue record pur une extension .eu #DNS. Dommage pour l’#auto-hebergement

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Yup! 👌

@prologic@twtxt.net Absolutely! It is essential to practice and deepen every art 😄

@doesnm@doesnm.p.psf.lt More or less 😂 At the moment it’s just a space to experiment

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Wait, texudus is like compatible fork of twtxt?

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Make sure you’re up-todate with main 🤣 I’m fixing little things here and there. Also please report bugs 🐞

@prologic@twtxt.net awww poor thing!

@prologic@twtxt.net the other day! the feeds stuff seems to be fixed :)

@prologic@twtxt.net you got this!!!

Hopefully I haven’t missed or messed anything upu 😅

* 101f3eb0 - (HEAD -> main) Fix a bunch of UX to do with following/unfollowing, bookmarking and unbookmarking (3 seconds ago) <James Mills>

Testing UI/UX is hard™ 😉

On a public holiday here (Labor Day, ironic really considering the labor party here in Australia has won their 2nd term this election haha 🤣)

Going to try and few up a few more UX bugs today with yarnd.

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Have you rebuild from main recently? 🤔

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Yeah to avoid cutting off bits at the end making hashes end in either q or a 🤣

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz No no, it’s just barks at the slightest thing going on around the neighborhod 😃 like it just goes a bit nuts often 🤣 it was a rescue dog, two years old, and it wasn’t treated very well, a street dog. I think it’s just basically afraid of every human in the world 😢

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Programming is art. You become good at art by practising your art. You learn artistic patterns by being inspired by and reading others art works. The most importance however is that you practise your art.

@bender@twtxt.net hi bender!!!!!!!!!! noooo i hope you can play diablo soon T__T i’m still trying to figure out what to do - i caught up on a manga but then got bored again!

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Indeed! 😍

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev

You need break the routine.

I haven’t really done that lately. 🤔 Maybe have another go at Rust (given its increasing importance in the Linux kernel)? Or Elixir, yes, I only had some very, very brief contact with it. 🤔

I just came across an old forum posting of mine about Prolog. That brought up some memories. Prolog is pretty alien, but I do miss stuff like that because it’s so different.

Just thinking out loud here. 😅

Once again, we had a lovely sunset: https://lyse.isobeef.org/abendhimmel-2025-05-04/

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz good day, bored girl! I just finished watching a “Black Mirror” episode, and I and also bored. I want to play Diablo IV, but now the TV is monopolised by wife. Cry, cry, cryyyyyyyy!

Passei boa parte da tarde a tentar montar um servidor doméstico do #Luanti (ex-Minetest) e bato sempre em connection timeouts, mesmo dentro da rede local.

Não compreendo mesmo o que se passa, consigo ligar sem problema entre as máquinas (cliente/server), mas na hora de ligar com o jogo ao servidor, timeout. Experimentei pôr outro pc a fazer de server, mesmo resultado.

Aquela frustração de ter de desistir, especialmente num domingo. Ugh.

morning yarnverse (it’s 1:30pm here i slept in). i’m already bored

@prologic@twtxt.net see if there’s anything wrong! maybe the little critter needs more food or water or just some playtime :)

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev @eapl.me@eapl.me Still lots of bugs in my client. 🥴 I’ll try to fix it next week.

And yes, using the same timestamp twice will very likely break threads.

@javivf@adn.org.es You also cut from the front and not the back.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Really? 😅 Thank you!

Nobody want to be a shitty programmer. The question is: Do you do anything not to not be one?
Reading blogs or social media and watching YouTube videos is fun. After them, your code may be a little better, of course. But you need a lot. You need to study! Read good books and study the code of other programmers, for example. Maybe work with a new language, architectures and paradigms. You need break the routine.

If you know Object-oriented programming, you learn functional programming.
If you know Model-View-Controller, you learn Model-View-ViewModel.
If you don’t know anything about architectures, you learn Clean Architecture, Hexagonal Architecture, etc.
If you know Python, you learn Ruby or Go.
If you know Clojure or Lisp… you don’t need to learn anything else. You are already a good programmer. Just kidding. You can learn Elixir or Scala.

Be a good programmer my friend.

Wouhou trop bien, je ne savais pas qu’il y avait déjà des modèle spour tracer des circuits électriques avec drawio : https://drawio-app.com/blog/use-draw-io-for-your-electrical-diagrams/

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Alright. 👍 Btw, your feed uses spaces instead of tabs. 😅

@javivf@adn.org.es Yes and still in review .

@movq@www.uninformativ.de ok, I have included a small modification in the documentation to allow you to reply in your own thread: https://texudus.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
You can see my reply: https://andros.dev/texudus.txt
Don’t delete anything and give me time to make my modifications to the client.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org You are of course right! 🤣 There are some low level components that can and should be unit tested for sure! 👌

@prologic@twtxt.net I also wore gloves, but after hours of demanding work, my shoulders and wrists were shattered. I hope I’m back to normal tomorrow. :-)

@prologic@twtxt.net To clarify, from my observations on how the system behaves, it feels like that. This doesn’t make it any better, I know. Sorry mate! I never claimed that testing is always easy, but in my experience it sure does help cutting down regressions. But to each their own, no worries. The diagram is all Greek to me. Anyway.

@bender@twtxt.net True.

Good old times. #Windows98

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@prologic@twtxt.net Give it a toy? I don’t know, don’t have any dogs. 😅

How do you stop a dog from barking? 🧐

🧐🤨🤔

@prologic@twtxt.net genuinely the sickest shit i’ve ever seen webdev is saved

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz It is 😅

hmmm i should play with HTMX sometime. it looks so neat

@bmallred@staystrong.run You mean ActivityPub + Twtxt? 🤔

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Ysy!!! 🙌🙌🙌

@bmallred@staystrong.run It really is 🤣

@prologic@twtxt.net I JUST SAW THIS POST WITHOUT RESTARTING WE ARE SO BACK

@bender@twtxt.net Bahahah 🤣😂 mate, me and one of my SRE colleagues actually came up with the terminology ourselves! 😛

slowing working away at my latest code project: learning PHP by recreating the 2000s fandom mainstay known as a fanlisting! it’s been super fun i added a dynamic nav bar and other modifications in the latest commit

fanlistings even to this day rely on old PHP scripts dating back to the early 2000s that need whole ass mySQL or postgres DBs and are incredibly insecure. you can look at them here they’re like super jank lol it’s sad that new fanlistings have to use them because there’s no other options….

happy free comic book day! my store was out of freebies but i got some of my pulls and also a trade of one of my favorite reads last year!

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@prologic@twtxt.net thank you so much, just did all of that! i’ll report back if i still need to restart <3

I am sure it wasn’t your intention (not even remotely), but it sounds a lot like corporate bullshit. Hahahaha! Are you sure you haven’t been institutionalised?

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Heh I have to wear gloves now when swining an axe or it hurts my hands 🤣

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz / @xuu@txt.sour.is Recommend you git checkout main && git pull, rebuild and redeploy: make build, and however you deploy. 🙏 Lots of fixes (no more stalling) and optimizations to the feed fetcher, smoother cpu usage, better internal metrics.

I’m not even being facetious here either. I’d llove to see you “unit tests” this:

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Well you are being slightly rude 🤪 Sure you could write unit tests for this, but in practise testing emergent properties and behaviors of a system is actually a lot harder than you might realize. But I’m happy to always be proven wrong 😑

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Indeed, a Wüstenmaus sounds cute. However, a Wüstenratte — which is more a desert rat — not so much.

@prologic@twtxt.net ODD, lol. I don’t wanna be rude, but this sounds more like Code And Fix.

We just split about one and a half cubic meters of fire wood at our scout yard. And even more chainsaw action to cut the logs in smaller chunks. I’m bloody tired now. But it was really great fun swinging the axe. I will sleep like a rock tonight.

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Yeah right now I’m trying to see if I can “spread the CPU usage of fetching N feeds across M duration” so basically “smooth” out the spikes in CPU usage.

@prologic@twtxt.net nice! lol that’s such a real way to develop

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I’ve almost fixed this btw 🤗 Just testing it thoroughly and polihsing the code. In case you’re curious, I do this style of development called “Observability Driven Development” (ODD) whereby I make observations of the system via metrics and internal observations and adjust the system’s overall behavior to the desired outcome 😅

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz with the help of a friend i got to build a nixOS server image from scratch and use it on a VPS! so that was neat!

i’m slowly learning nixOS as part of my new fujocoded contract thing and as scary as it is it’s highkey kinda fun. like what do you mean i configure the bootloader with one god damn line in a file that’s EPIC

my cat has the zoomies. it’s 6AM. girl RELAX

@movq@www.uninformativ.de LMAO the power of static pages!

@prologic@twtxt.net oh i see it! thank you so much! it’s no problem i totally understand :)

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev I set up a test feed here:

https://www.uninformativ.de/texudus.txt

I made some preliminary adjustments to my client so that it can work with the different threading model. (And I totally get the concerns, this can be quite a bit of work. Especially in a large code base like Yarn.)

@movq@www.uninformativ.de @kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz @quark@ferengi.one In 2014 one person created protocol ii. Later it forked in IDEC. Why i said this? Because it’s simple “federated” forum-like protocol where from your station fetch another every 5-10 minutes. Stations has topic-based channels like idec.talks, linux.16, haiku.os, zx.spectrum. In short it’s FIDO but.. more modern? Documentation: https://github.com/idec-net/new-docs (mostly Russian, but you can use translator, also protocol already translated to english)

@doesnm@doesnm.p.psf.lt nah, I’m fine without a web ui. But I like what the dev did with the 2009 facebook/VK look, it kind of feels notsalgic. (the tld is a .me not a .com if anyone else wants to take a look atit)

Too late to fix your typo kind of feeling … suck. 😒