@bender@twtxt.net 404 could be indeed a temporary error if the file resides on a mounted remote filesystem and then the mount point fails for some reason. With a symlink from the web root to the file on the mount, the web server probably will not recognize the mount point failure as such. Thus, it might not reply with a 503 Service Unavailable (or something like that), but 404 Not Found instead. (I could be wrong on that, though.)

The right™ way is to signal 410 Gone if the feed does not exist anymore and will not come back to life again. But that’s hard to come by in the wild. Somebody has to manually configure that in almost all situations.

But yes, as @falsifian@www.falsifian.org points out, exponential backoff looks like a good strategy. Probably even report a failure to users somehow, so they can check and potentially unsubscribe.

@bender@twtxt.net Yeah, this is just unbelievable.

Il fait encore tout gris. Je m’interroge sur l’efficacité des lampes genre #luminothérapie. J’ai comme un doute. Des conseils avisés?

@falsifian@www.falsifian.org that sounds like a good compromise. Regardless of what @prologic@twtxt.net wrote, a 404 is a 404.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org 4.75 seconds, are you kidding me? 🤯

@prologic@twtxt.net Yep. ✅

@xuu Ahhhh, ohhhh, ouch. 🫤

@prologic@twtxt.net @bender@twtxt.net Exponential backoff? Seems like the right thing to do when a server isn’t accepting your connections at all, and might also be a reasonable compromise if you consider 404 to be a temporary failure.

@xuu poor lady! 😩 I have trained mum to call me with anything remotely fishy. She pretty much don’t trust anything. On top of the weekends, when I visit them, I usually go to their house once or twice during working days, to check on emails, calls, or funny looking snail mail.

@prologic@twtxt.net if a twtxt.txt is not found, under which conditions will it be found again, and can something be done if say, it isn’t found for X amount of hours, days, months?

@bender@twtxt.net Unfoetunately that isn’t actually true as it depend on the ingress architecture and networking.

i think maybe they got her to add a forward number for sms and used that to activate on another device..

Its supposed to be tied to your phone number.. but they managed to get it activated on a different device some how. /shrug

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org saw it, thanks! It pains me to see that speed. I mean, I blink slower than what it took that guy to climb that wall. LOL.

@prologic@twtxt.net no worries mate, and thanks! I wonder if something could be done for feeds rendering 404, so that they get automatically “unfollowed”, and removed.

A twtxt.txt file should never spit out a 404, unless it’s no more.

@bender@twtxt.net I’ve blocked it from this pod for now 🤞Not sure which users are still trying to fetch the non-existent feeds sorry!

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org this what I get:

“Video unavailable
The uploader has not made this video available in your country”

The thing is, I don’t have a twtxt.txt file on netbros.com.

@prologic@twtxt.net thousands of daily requests.

@bender@twtxt.net define hammering?

Gotta keep up to date 🤣

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@movq@www.uninformativ.de Is the other yarn.mills.io?

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@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Hmmm, the user agents indicate two different pods. 🤔 Most of them are twtxt.net, though, only one user is something else. 🤔

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@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Yeah, indeed, but still. 😂

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@movq@www.uninformativ.de No wonder with all these yarnds. :-D

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@movq@www.uninformativ.de Maybe they’re not all coming from yarnd, but one of them could be from yarns, the search engine. Just a wild guess. My twtxt.txt access log doesn’t record the source IP address, so I don’t know.

And aren’t there any other hosted yarnd instances? Maybe it was never really implemented, but I remember @prologic@twtxt.net thought about hosting dedicated yarnds for others in the past. Could be well over a year ago, not sure.

Another possibility might be a forgotten development instance idling around (or not so much :-D) in the background. I think the default user agent points to txtxt.net, not example.com. At least when I last checked the yarnd code. That was also several months ago.

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