@prologic@twtxt.net I now see my twtxts as written in the proverbial stone. That is, no edits, no deletions, no matter how embarrassing their content might be. 😅
Hear, hear, @prologic@twtxt.net! :-)
And speaking of Twtxt (See: #xushlda, feeds should be treated as append-only. Your client(s) should be appending Twts to the bottom of the file. Edits should never modify the timestamp of the Twt being edited, nor should a Twt that was edited by deleted, unless you actually intended to delete it (but that’s more complicated as it’s very hard to control or tell clients what to do in a truely decentralised ecosystem for the deletion case). #Twtxt #Client #Recommendations
Just like we don’t write emails by hand anymore (See: #a3adoka), we don’t manually write Twts or update our twtxt.txt
feeds. Instead, we use modern Twtxt clients that conform to the specifications at Twtxt.dev for a seamless, automated experience. #Twtxt #Twt #UserExperience
Nobody writes emails by hand using RFC 5322 anymore, nor do we manually send them through telnet and SMTP commands. The days of crafting emails in raw format and dialing into servers are long gone. Modern email clients and services handle it all seamlessly in the background, making email easier than ever to send and receive—without needing to understand the protocols or formats behind it! #Email #SMTP #RFC #Automation
@bender@twtxt.net Hehe good sleuthing 🤣 I swear it was an edit ✍️ Haha 😂 yarnd
now “sees” both every single time, where-as before it would just obliterate the old Twt, but remain in archive. Now you get to see both 😅 Not sure if that’s a good thing or not, but it certainly makes it much clearer how to write “code logic” for detecting edits and doing something more UX(y) about ‘em 🤔
yarnd
powering this pod twtxt.net 🧐
Or rather, https://txt.sour.is/conv/a36exfa.
@bender@twtxt.net It’s pretty cool though 🤣
yarnd
powering this pod twtxt.net 🧐
@sorenpeter@darch.dk you raw feed says otherwise. Also, https://txt.sour.is/conv/wj5bcwq.
yarnd
powering this pod twtxt.net 🧐
Wrote some serious Python for the first time in like 10 years 😱 I feel so dirty 🤣
yarnd
powering this pod twtxt.net 🧐
@prologic@twtxt.net it was not an edit but a double posting
yarnd
powering this pod twtxt.net 🧐
@prologic@twtxt.net yup. Funny enough, the first twtxt should have sufficed, as if there is no domain, there will be no feed (at that domain). The edit to add that the feed will not be available is redundant.
@prologic@twtxt.net stop fooling around, and smell the flowers (careful with the bees, they sting)! An unofficial sign done by children, I am sure. :-D
Contagem decrescente para o primeiro techbro a afirmar uma solução de IA que evitaria futuros apagões
Je voudrais synchroniser 2 disques : l’un contient des musiques au format .opus, il faut les convertir sur le second disque au format mp3. J’utilise déjà beets pour importer les musiques sur le premier disque. Comment vous feriez ça? Merci! #question
@javivf@adn.org.es Go for it! You’re free to use it.
It’s been a community adventure to explore the whole DM/encryption thing. So the community can do with it whatever they want. 😎
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org hey pascal bro! My first coding class was with an old Borland Turbo Pascal. I made my own little window manager for the assignments for class.
The teacher didn’t appreciate it much since I had to print out the code to turn it in. My Yatzee game was a stack of pages. 🤪
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Very nice! 👌 So lovely and green 😅 – What’s with the sign in
? 🧐Interesting edit observed by the new yarnd
powering this pod twtxt.net 🧐
@movq@www.uninformativ.de I’ve tried and there’s little interest so I’ve given up for now 😭
@bender@twtxt.net Wut?! 😂
The OP strikes me as a boomer (they might not be!). LOL. I don’t think there is going back. If anything, it will get worse.
hola mundo
probando
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org yikes! I knew there will be collateral damage, but I wasn’t expecting it to affect The Tubes! 😱
@movq@www.uninformativ.de I started with Delphi in school, the book (that we never ever used even once and I also never looked at) taught Pascal. The UI part felt easy at first but prevented me from understanding fundamental stuff like procedures or functions or even begin
and end
blocks for if
s or loops. For example I always thought that I needed to have a button somewhere, even if hidden. That gave me a handler procedure where I could put code and somehow call it. Two or three years later, a new mate from the parallel class finally told me that this wasn’t necessary and how to do thing better.
You know all too well that back in the day there was not a whole lot of information out there. And the bits that did exist were well hidden. At least from me. Eventually discovering planet-quellcodes.de (I don’t remember if that was the original forum or if that got split off from some other board) via my best schoolmate was like finding the Amber Room. Yeah, reading the ITG book would have been a very good idea for sure. :-)
In hindsight, a console program without the UI overhead might have been better. At least for the very start. Much less things to worry about or get lost.
Hence, I’d recommend to start programming with a console program. As for the language, not sure. But Python is probably a good choice, it doesn’t require a lot of surrounding boilerplate like, say Java or Go. It also does exceptionally well in the principle of least surprise.
@sorenpeter@darch.dk I see, ta. The big spring cleaning continues. ;-)
Hi @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org, I canceled the domain, so neotxt or my feed there are not coming back.
I went on a small hike, just 12-13km this time. The weather was great, blue sky, sunny 18°C, but with the wind it felt colder. Leaves and other green stuff is exploding like crazy. It looks super beautiful right now.
I came across an unfortunately dead salamander on the forest road, some fenced in deer, heaps of sheep, some unmagnetic cows (some were aligned very roughly north-south, but mainly with the axis of the best view I believe), a maybeetle and finally an awesome sunset. Not too shabby! The sheep were mehing all the time, that was really lovely to hear. And the crickets were already active, too. Didn’t expect them to hear yet. I tried to record the concert, but the wind messed it all up. Oh well.
I should probably clarify: Which language/platform? Something graphical or web-based right from the beginning or do you start with a console program?
@bender@twtxt.net Must be the US tariffs, it’s working reasonably quick in Europe. :-D
@twtxtory@twtxtory.adn.org.es sorry, it isn’t. After you enter the password, it takes a very long time to render anything. I don’t have the patience to wait. Longest I waited is 3 minutes, and nothing. Super extremely slow.
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Your next experiment should be triangles. :-)
To the parents or teachers: How do you teach kids to program these days? 🤔
If you just do a square, the score is still surprisingly high … https://movq.de/v/68eb406e17/s.png 😅
@bender@twtxt.net Oh 🤣🤣🤣
@prologic@twtxt.net ah, yes, a feed that I have muted. 😂
Should ink to this
@javivf@adn.org.es the demo doesn’t work. When trying to login, it simply times out.
Hmm not sure how that link is 404’kng for you 🧐 It doesn’t here 🤦♂️
@prologic@twtxt.net oh, sorry, you are right. Beautiful 404. The most beautiful 404 I have ever seen. Tremendous! 🤪
@bender@twtxt.net What you talk’n about 🤣 It’s not broken, it’s perfectly functional 🤣
@prologic@twtxt.net first we need to fix broken links. 😅
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Seems legit 😅
I have a great idea for fixing the US economy. Get rid of all the nuclear weapons 🤣
@javivf@adn.org.es Wanna list it on twtxt.dev? 🧐
@javivf@adn.org.es Ahh! So this is your client implementation? 🧐
I just fixed a bug in tt’s reply to parent feature. Previously, when the message tree looked like the following
Message
├╴Reply 1
│ └╴Subreply
└╴Reply 2
and “Reply 2” was selected, pressing A
to reply to the parent should have picked “Message”. However, a reply to “Reply 2” was composed instead. The reason was a precausiously introduced safety guard to abort the parent search which stopped at “Subreply”, because its subject didn’t match “Reply 2”’s. It was originally intended to abort on a completely different message conversation root. Just in case. Turns out that this thoght was flawed.
Fixing bugs by only removing code is always cool. :-)
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Bwahahaahaaa, this is fucking brilliant, I love it! :-D What a wonderful thing to start my Sunday.
@prologic@twtxt.net This was like 20 minutes, but yeah 🤣
Today I added support for Let’s Encrypt to eris via DNS-01 challenge. Updated the gcore libdns package I wrote for Caddy, Maddy and now Eris. Add support for yarn’s cache to support # type = bot
and optionally # retention = N
so that feeds like @tiktok@feeds.twtxt.net work like they did before, and… Updated some internal metrics in yarnd
to be IMO “better”, with queue depth, queue time and last processing time for feeds.
Also you have too much time on your hands 🙌 Haha 😂
@movq@www.uninformativ.de Only 99.9% pfffft 🤣
Can you automate the drawing with a script? On X11, you can:
#!/bin/sh
# Position the pointer at the center of the dot, then run this script.
sleep 1
start=$(xdotool getmouselocation --shell)
eval $start
r=400
steps=100
down=0
for step in $(seq $((steps + 1)) )
do
# pi = 4 * atan(1)
new_x=$(printf '%s + %s * c(%s / %s * 2 * (4 * a(1)))\n' $X $r $step $steps | bc -l)
new_y=$(printf '%s + %s * s(%s / %s * 2 * (4 * a(1)))\n' $Y $r $step $steps | bc -l)
xte "mousemove ${new_x%%.*} ${new_y%%.*}"
if ! (( down ))
then
xte 'mousedown 1'
down=1
fi
done
xte 'mouseup 1'
xte "mousemove $X $Y"
Interestingly, you can abuse the scoring system (not manually, only with a script). Since the mouse jumps to the locations along the circle, you can just use very few steps and still get a great score because every step you make is very accurate – but the result looks funny:
🥴
Was just looking at the client you’re using Twtxtory 🤔 Very nice! 👍 is this your client, did you write it? I’d not come across it before!
@twtxtory@twtxtory.adn.org.es Hello 👋 Welcome to Yarn.social / Twtxt 😅
jenny
, tt
or any other client where fetches are driven by user interactions of invoking the app. What do we call this type of client? Hmmm 🤔 Then I can tell who uses yarnd
because they are "seen" more frequently 🤣
@javivf@adn.org.es pretty much 👌
@quark@ferengi.one I do have an idea for syncing this 🤞
@prologic@twtxt.net well, this fork will work. I an fork this one with jenny, not so with Yarnd.
ouf, j’ia pu récupérer mes contacts grâce à carddav (radicale) hébergé sur mon serveur, j’avais oublié que j’avais ce truc
$ bat https://twtxt.net/twt/edgwjcq | jq '.subject'
"(#yarnd)"
hahahahaha 🤣 Does your client allow you to do this or what? 🤔
Bahahahaha 🤣
@bmallred@staystrong.run Hehe, @bender@twtxt.net is gonna be upset with you for “making up a thread/subject” 🤣
jenny
, tt
or any other client where fetches are driven by user interactions of invoking the app. What do we call this type of client? Hmmm 🤔 Then I can tell who uses yarnd
because they are "seen" more frequently 🤣
@bmallred@staystrong.run No! Never 😆
Interesting factoid… By inspecting my “followers” list every now and again, I can tell who uses a client like jenny
, tt
or any other client where fetches are driven by user interactions of invoking the app. What do we call this type of client? Hmmm 🤔 Then I can tell who uses yarnd
because they are “seen” more frequently 🤣
First draft of yarnd 0.16 release notes. 📝 – Probably needs some tweaking and fixing, but it’s sounding alright so far 👌 #yarnd
It worked! 🥳
yey! it works! Good night @bender@twtxt.net!
@aelaraji@aelaraji.com let me reply before going to sleep. 😂😂😂
@test_dont_fetch@aelaraji.com Let’s raise another from the dead! “Facio, Voco, Ferre” 🧝 🪄 #ForScience
@bender@twtxt.net It isn’t @aelaraji@aelaraji.com’s fault at all here 😅 I think the only way I can improve this somewhat is by introducing a similar convergence that I believe @movq@www.uninformativ.de built for Jenny which would fetch the mentioned feed temporarily to see if it contains the subject being replied to (in case it’s not in the cache).
I’ll think about doing this too, but I have to do it carefully so as not to cost too much in terms of resources or performance…
@prologic@twtxt.net I don’t understand what’s happening. It often happens with @aelaraji@aelaraji.com Replies are often simply disconnected.
@bender@twtxt.net Nah it’s there but it’s a reply to a thread that isn’t found here hmmm 🤔
@aelaraji@aelaraji.com I replied to this twtxt with https://twtxt.net/twt/yqrdx4q, and it created its own, totally unconnected.
I replied to a twtxt from @aelaraji@aelaraji.com, which is now gone(?).
@aelaraji@aelaraji.com I don’t think they have ever replied to anyone. Just checked their raw feed.
@bender@twtxt.net Oh I see hmmm 🧐
Andros’ feed is simply the direct link to submissions with at least 600 points. It doesn’t link to Hacker News, thus no comments.
/ME slipping a note under @klaxzy@klaxzy.net’s keyboard.
Note: “You should check https://marginalia-search.com/ I bet you’ll love it.”
@bender@twtxt.net Well… I don’t believe it’s possible to prevent or avoid all system accidents. However, managing system safety and putting in control structures goes a long way 👌
@prologic@twtxt.net is just is! For me, that is.
@bender@twtxt.net How is this dense or boring? 🧐
@prologic@twtxt.net I jested, of course. Way too dense (and/or boring) for my liking. 🤣
@prologic@twtxt.net and the aim, and end result, is that by reading and learning from it you will prepare yourself to nearly completely avoid accidents. Am I right? 🙂
@bmallred@staystrong.run yeah! you’re right. Unfortunately, Decaf isn’t a thing where I live 🤷
@bender@twtxt.net Not quite sue I understand your reaction 🤣
These ideas are dr the two books:
- Drift into Failure: From Hunting Broken Components to Understanding Complex Systems by Sidney Dekker (2011)
- Engineering a Safer World by Nancy Leveson (2011)
The former I haven’t read. The later I haven’t finished reading 😅
Hmm. What can I say? 🧐🥴 OK. 🤭😅😂
@prologic@twtxt.net @movq@www.uninformativ.de The side effects ARE what got me into drinking coffee in the first place, now it feels like I’m fighting them back for my life 😅
@andros@twtxt.andros.dev HAHA! Easy, we’ll just ask Redream to make a little something for you! I just hope it doesn’t come with a subscription fee for… taking time off of it tho! 😆
And the idea of asynchronous evolutions comes from system accidents where control failures emerge when system structure, constraints, and evolution are poorly managed.
The idea of drift into failure is small normal adaptations erode safety over time without people noticing.