👋 FYI: I’ve put in place 301 Moved Permanently redirect(s) for https://dev.twtxt.net/ and all relevant pages to the new domain https://twtxt.dev 👌

@prologic@twtxt.net LGTM. 👍

@bender@twtxt.net Right, so a “Cool Domain” is just a URI in your Domain space that you control and maintain stability. As you control the Domain Space, you can keep URI(s) stable even in the face of change. Okay.

But what I don’t get is @asquare ’s comment:

Imposing a norm that you can’t just use any ol’ url, looking down on people

@asquare Who’s imposing this and “looking down”? If you got that impression from me, that was not my intent. I’m merely pointing out the problem we have, nothing more. We need to solve for that.

@prologic@twtxt.net https://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI

@asquare@asquare.srht.site What do you mean by “Cool URLs”?

Yup that’s right.

@falsifian@www.falsifian.org How so? 🤔

@prologic@twtxt.net One could argue twtxt.net’s display formatting is a little over-eager here.

Inversion by Aric McBay was another random library pick. Like The Fall of Io, it’s the most recent in a series, though I think this series is pretty loosely connected. In contrast, the villain in this book is simple and cartoonishly evil. The book presents a design for utopia which was interesting but a little cloying. I’m not sure if I’m supposed to want to live there, but I don’t think I do. I enjoyed the book as easy reading, and might try the others in the series some time. (4/4)

I read Starter Villain by John Scalzi. Enjoyable, like his other books that I’ve read. Somewhat sillier. (¾)

I’m enjoying Wesley Chu’s Tao and Io series. Spies, action, ancient aliens. Some funny parts, some interesting world-building parts, some action-filled parts. I picked up The Fall of Io at random from a library a few weeks ago, and it turned out to be the last in a series of six (technically two series), so after finishing that I read the first and am partway through the second. Usually I try to read series in order, but this way is interesting. One thing I liked about The Fall of Io was that it it followed many points of view with somewhat conflicting interests, some more evil than others, and I felt sympathy for most of them. (I was kind of hoping it would be about Jupiter’s moon Io, but it wasn’t, but I’m satisfied with what I ended up with.) (2/4)

Recent #scifi #reading: (¼)

@Codebuzz@www.codebuzz.nl I really like this idea of just using the Feed’s # nick as a sort of “identifier”. This gets us out of this mess of when feeds move locations or authors decide to host on 3 or 4 different protocols 🤣 Downside? Something picks the same nick? (they’ll still hash differently, so that’s fine).

👋 PR to Update Metadata ext to clarify avatar field cc @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org @movq@www.uninformativ.de @sorenpeter@darch.dk and @Codebuzz@www.codebuzz.nl

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Better Nate than lever …

Haha, 13 years later I got the response that my reported bug in GNAT (GNU Ada compiler) had been fixed a long time ago: https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=50263

@cuaxolotl@sunshinegardens.org not sure that really applies strictly in a purely decentakised system? 🤔

The call is on! Come join us!

https://meet.mills.io/call/Yarn.social

@stigatle@yarn.stigatle.no Cominf yo yhe call? 🤔🤗

Hope you all enjoy the weekend!

@xuu@txt.sour.is Thanks!

@prologic@twtxt.net that should be right

@rodolpho@twtxt.rodolpho.onoeck.com.br Hey 👋

I think it uses the first # url too. See here and here – @xuu Can you confirm this to be the case? 🙏 GetN("url", 0) will return the first found # url comment right?

@doesnm@doesnm.p.psf.lt No I’m just frustrated 🤗

@movq@www.uninformativ.de I will check when I get home 😅

That’s very sad… Btw twtxt is more hardly to spam because of bad discovery. So you can only spam to your followers. Did you really want abandon best method of microblogging?

@prologic@twtxt.net I haven’t changed anything, either. 😅 jenny uses the first URL: https://www.uninformativ.de/git/jenny/file/jenny.html#l191

@prologic@twtxt.net Yes. 😅

@gallowsgryph@prismdragon.net Very nice 👌

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Only because I build and maintain additional services right? 🤔

@gallowsgryph@prismdragon.net That’s mixh better 🥳

@gallowsgryph@prismdragon.net Thays mixh better 🥳

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Hmmm now I’m confused 😅 I’ve made no changes anywhere – we still need to all agree, especially client authors and maintainers 🤣

@prologic@twtxt.net Oh, yeah, it certainly is more work for you than it is for me. 🫤

@prologic@twtxt.net As per https://dev.twtxt.net/doc/metadataextension.html, it’s the first URL. 😅 I think using the last URL was one of the new proposals. Or has that already been implemented? 🤯

@gallowsgryph@prismdragon.net do you mind updating the fragment part of your avatar url? 🙏

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Don’t we use the last url for hashing? 🤔

@movq@www.uninformativ.de you are absolutely right! And it did happen once more in the past as well. The difficulty about this particular new behavior though is that I’ve also had to blacklist it and remove it from the search engine and crawler for obvious reasons.

@prologic@twtxt.net I don’t understand that behavior either, but I’m afraid stuff like that is always going to happen. (I think it already happened once in the past?) As long as we have an easy way to ignore such a feed and remove it from our databases, we should be fine. 🤔

@sorenpeter@darch.dk As a replacement, it should be doable. But it won’t work together with hashes. So the community has to agree on one or the other first.

@prologic@twtxt.net I’m not sure this isn’t a bug. The feed’s URL must have changed at some point but Yarn is still using the old URL for hashing. And it’s inconsistent now:

curl -s -H 'Accept: application/json' https://twtxt.net/twt/mowsvgq

This gets you a twt which, when hashed again now using all the information from that API reply, does not yield the hash mowsvgq but bjs6aua.

But when you use the URL http://prismdragon.net/twtxt.txt for hashing instead of http://twtxt.prismdragon.net/twtxt.txt, it’s mowsvgq.

So I would expect Yarn to either know about mowsvgq (showing the new URL http://prismdragon.net/twtxt.txt) or about bjs6aua (showing the old URL http://twtxt.prismdragon.net/twtxt.txt). But not mowsvgq with the old URL. 😅

I don’t see how the second # url = metadata field is relevant here. 🤔

@gallowsgryph@twtxt.prismdragon.net Cool! 👌

My very strong opinion on the use of Twtxt is if you intend to use it, you should be prepared to let people pull your feed or at least check it and regular rentals.

Otherwise get out and go use something that’s either a distributed (Mastodon, AT, etc) or centralized (Facebook, X, etc) network.

I just find a very frustrating when you have these very small number of people that lash out unnecessarily and get so angry over nothing.

@cuaxolotl@sunshinegardens.org I think we’ve done that here right? 🤔 we seem to have collectively formed a community of folks that are interested in interacting with one another in a completely decentralized way and minimal way.

@bender@twtxt.net Agreed. I just find it an abhorrent that certain folks just don’t even bother to spend the few mins that it takes to reach out. Compares to hours of their time to cause havoc and mischief. Seriously wut da fuq?! 🤦‍♂️

@bender@twtxt.net Haha if she let you 🤣

@prologic@twtxt.net I might join from mum’s house. That’s, if she let me. 😅😅😅

@prologic@twtxt.net don’t let anyone bum you out, mate. We take corrective action, and move on.

I mean, you will quit twtxt when you please, but not because of some irrelevant feed. Won’t you agree?