@movq@www.uninformativ.de there are many other similar backup tools. I would love to hear what will make you pick Borg above the rest.

@bender@twtxt.net Exactly. I suspect it was because of sqlitebrowser also accessing the database in parallel to debug the original issue.

So far, I have not found the exact reason why some replies don’t show up. When I do not filter for unread messages and show all, though, I actually see them. So, there’s that.

On top of my usual backups (which are already offsite, but it requires me carrying a hard disk to that other site), I think I might rent a storage server and use Borg. 🤔 Hoping that their encryption is good enough. Maybe that’ll also finally convince me to get a faster internet connection. 😂

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org 😱😱😱 I am assuming that’s happening with tt2, right?

@javivf@adn.org.es having the extension listed means that it has been discussed and, usually implemented. Now, number 6 and 7 on the list as its stands today are not supported by any of the known clients. I believe their (again, 6 and 7) inclusion on the list has been precipitated, and lax.

Today is the day where everything is falling apart. Suddenly, I get: SQL logic error: cannot start a transaction within a transaction

Yes

@javivf@adn.org.es merged in to the repo of specs:

Aha, they all had to do with a dropped feed. I suspect the internal bookkeeping with root paths couldn’t keep up.

I just noticed that my unread messages counter was off by quite a bit. It showed 8, but I only saw one unread message. Even after restarting my client, which recalculates the number of unread messages, it remained at eight. Weird. Looking in the database revealed that this is indeed correct.

Apparently, my query to build up the message tree must be incorrect. It somehow misses seven messages. They all are orphaned, maybe that’s a clue. However, generating missing root messages (and thereby including the replies) typically works just fine. Hmm.

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz It’s more like a cache, it stores things like “timestamp of the most recent twt we’ve seen per feed” or “last modification date” (to be used with HTTP’s if-modified-since header). You can nuke these files at any time, it might just result in more traffic (e.g., always getting a full response instead of just “HTTP 304 nope, didn’t change”).

@quark@ferengi.one Yes, I often write a couple of twts, don’t publish them, then sometimes notice a mistake and want to edit it. You’re right, as soon as stuff is published, threads are going to break/fork by edits.

so i had the idea of adding a page to my otherwise single page girl on the moon personal site that featured my more notable projects, but it’s been hours and i CAN’T THINK OF ANYTHING TO ADD THAT I HAVEN’T ALREADY MENTIONED. i just host other people’s stuff!!!

@prologic@twtxt.net best of luck!!! discover view having no limit sounds scary oh god lol

@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz I’ll cut a release soon™, but still a few more things to iron out 🤣 One of the new challenges is figuring out what to do with the “Discover” view now that is has an unconfined limit, on my pod (at least) it’s now basically just “noise” 🤦‍♂️

@prologic@twtxt.net alright! i can try that… whenever i am capable of upgrading and figure out how to lol

@prologic@twtxt.net :D

@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Been missing your jovial posts too and your friends 🤣

@quark@ferengi.one No editing old Twts that are the root of a thread with replies in the ecosystem. Just results in a fork. Unless the client has an implementation that does not store Twts keyed by Hash.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Oh dear 😂

@kate@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz The re-fetch should work just fine 🤞

@david@collantes.us Thanks I’ll fix.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de wouldn’t editing your own twtxts cause the same issue Yarnd (or any other client) has, which is breaking any replies to it? Under which conditions would this work the best? When copying the twtxt.txt file asynchronously? In my case I copy the twtxt.txt file to its web root right away, but I figure I could not do that, which would give me a set period of time to edit without worries.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de json and database put together sounds terrifying. i must try jenny

@bender@twtxt.net very true in both regards!!! <333 happy to see you too, i missed your silly bender icon hahha. my times could be better but things will improve i am sure of it

@bender@twtxt.net awww thank you :‘))) you all are too nice!!! i really wanted to share how i did this because i think i’m the first person to publicly attempt a production instance of dreamwidth code in docker, so i’m glad i did a good job at documenting it!!!!!!!

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz woah! That’s something else, kat! Heck, I document pretty much everything (more at work than anywhere else), and I have got to tell you, you put my “documentation” to shame. LOL. Very well done!

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz hard times are best shared! Of course, I understand there are times they are best not shared. Either way, I wish the hard time you have been having fades away! And, of course, happy to “see” you! 🥰

jenny really isn’t well equipped to handle edits of my own twts.

For example, in 2021, this change got introduced:

https://www.uninformativ.de/git/jenny/commit/6b5b25a542c2dd46c002ec5a422137275febc5a1.html

This means that jenny will always ignore my own edits unless I also manually edit its internal “json database”. Annoying.

That change was requested by a user who had the habit of deleting twts or moving them to another mailbox or something. I think that person is long gone and I might revert that change. 🤔

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org It wasn’t our building, yeah, luckily. But I’m pretty scared it might happen some day. I think I’ll put more effort into preparing for that. But whatever I do, it would be horrific to lose all your stuff and the memories attached to it …

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz You’re welcome. 😅 (From a hiring perspective, it’s not even important if every detail/step is correct or not. We all make mistakes, all the time; we don’t/can’t know everything.)

@movq@www.uninformativ.de HELP THIS IS GENUINELY SO SWEET THANK YOU ;_; omg i felt so nervous posting this because i was like what if i get something wrong but then i did it anyway and i felt so free… like woah i did all of this

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz As someone who has a say in hiring decisions (every now and then – I’m not an executive nor an HR person 😆): This is gold. Writeups like these tell me/us so much about job applicants. It’s much more valuable than “a CV without gaps” or “know your algorithms” or whatever. Instead, it shows how you work and that you understand what you’re doing, and that’s the most important part. 🥇

i must stop ghosting all my social media except discord and fedi when i am depressed. ghosting is the mind killer

@bender@twtxt.net NOOOO i self host an XMPP server and also revolt but as much as i love XMPP (gajim client reminds me of using skype as a kid highkey) i don’t use it much and revolt is a bitch to maintain. like i broke revolt file uploads and it stayed that way for months until literally last week lmao. i never bothered with matrix tbh maybe i should’ve but it seems not worth it

@prologic@twtxt.net hm would there be any loss with the re-fetch option? i wouldn’t mind either but i’d like to hold onto what i got if possible! but if it IS possible but also really annoying to do i’ll just do the re-fetch of feeds because i’m lazy af LMAO

@bender@twtxt.net been having a hard time! but i am trying to be more active <3

@movq@www.uninformativ.de that is a great quote god damn

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz i did this in september but it took me this long to do the write up part lmfao

7k words of docs on deploying a livejournal folk. you absolutely want to read 7 thousand words of me forcing dreamwidth into production shape in docker https://stash.4-walls.net/selfhostdw/

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Hopefully at your neighbors and not your building. :-S Keep your pecker up!

I just heard the fire brigade respond here with their compressed air sirens, too.

If you let fire take effect properly, it helps to reduce density.

And, of course, I am getting a 403 when trying to edit the file. <– @prologic@twtxt.net.

Ha! I stand corrected, didn’t scrolled long enough. Indeed, it should be added (you will need an account on Mills’ Gitea), noted.

@eaplme@eapl.me you wrote:

“That PHP snippet could be merged into https://twtxt.dev/exts/twt-hash.html”

Why, though? AFAIK @andros@twtxt.andros.dev’s client is on Emacs, @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org’s is on Python (and Golang, for tt2), @movq@www.uninformativ.de’s is on Python, and @prologic@twtxt.net’s is on Golang. All the client creator needs to know is in the documentation already, coding language agnostic.

Bloody WhatsApp, bloody chat apps on smartphones, I’m going nuts. If you want to TYPE, use a device WITH A KEYBOARD. Don’t send me useless undecipherable gibberish. FFS!

Gosh, I hate fire. Densely populated areas are a mistake.

I should quit IT and start a career as a fortune teller.

Last night I dreamed that the neighbouring buildings were on fire. Now guess where the firefighters have just showed up.

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev I give you not creating another file, but then I’d vote for commenting out DMs. See https://eapl.me/timeline/post/z5e2bna

It’s easier to find the DM in comments from your side, than asking all the client maintainers to add the regex =P
You can even use a Modified comment, such as
#! <DM content>
Or something like that

This approach is retro-compatible with current and older clients.

just a note that we are doing that on PHP: https://github.com/eapl-gemugami/twtxt-php/blob/master/docs/03-hash-extension.md#php-72

That PHP snippet could be merged into https://twtxt.dev/exts/twt-hash.html

@hacker-news@feeds.twtxt.net this is the 4th one in the row - I think. Loosing count of them.

That’s an interesting research article about Wallbleed, a memory disclosure vulnerability in the Great Firewall of China. They reverse-engineered the buggy DNS query processing code that injects a response if the hostname should be censored: https://gfw.report/publications/ndss25/data/paper/wallbleed.pdf

@klaxzy@klaxzy.net Jellyfin FTW … I guess!

@movq@www.uninformativ.de this settles it then. Hopefully @andros@twtxt.andros.dev can make slight corrections, and broken threads will be a thing of the past! Thanks!

Scratch that, no bug in jenny. There’s actually a test case for this. Python normalizes -00:00 to +00:00, so the negative case never happens.

@david@collantes.us @andros@twtxt.andros.dev The correct hash would be si4er3q. See https://twtxt.dev/exts/twt-hash.html, a timezone offset of +00:00 or -00:00 must be replaced by Z.

(That said, there’s a bug in jenny as well. It only replaces +00:00, not -00:00. 🤡)

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Lol! Yeah, nobody wants to see you bring your coal-powered forklift into the gym. :-D

Using AI in education is like using a forklift in the gym. The weights do not actually need to be moved from place to place. That is not the work. The work is what happens within you.

https://fedi.neuwirth.priv.at/@konrad/114352350424913566

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev maybe @movq@www.uninformativ.de, @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org, @prologic@twtxt.net, and @xuu@txt.sour.is can explain what’s going on here, or which approach is the right one. One thing seems to be happening: your approach is breaking “conversations” (threads), as the other clients seemingly do not agree.

@david@collantes.us If I run

printf '%s\n%s\n%s' 'https://aelaraji.com/twtxt.txt' '2025-04-16T22:49:11+00:00' "Am I tripping or `rsync` is actually THIS effing faster than `scp`!!? 🫨" | b2sum -l 256 | awk '{ print $1 }' | xxd -r -p | base32 | tr -d '=' | tr 'A-Z' 'a-z' | tail -c 8

I have xqfsv6a. It is raw text

But… If I change de date to 2025-04-16T22:49:11Z I have si4er3q.

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev the hash on @aelaraji@aelaraji.com’s last message (as I type this) is:

[si4er3q] [2025-04-16 22:49:11+00:00] [Am I tripping or `rsync` is actually THIS effing faster than `scp`!!? 🫨]

So, si4er3q

@prologic@twtxt.net @bender@twtxt.net

What is the hash of the last message from?: https://aelaraji.com/twtxt.txt

@bender@twtxt.net For example:

If you can see this twt in any feed…

xxxx-xx-xxTxx:xx:xxZ	!<bender https://twtxt.net/user/bender/twtxt.txt> U2FsdGVkX1+QmwBNmk9Yu9jvazVRFPS2TGJRGle/BDDzFult6zCtxNhJrV0g+sx0EIKbjL2a9QpCT5C0Z2qWvw==

It is for you. Any other possibility must be ignore (hidden in your timeline).

If your client doesn’t have the posibility to decrypt the twt, hide all direct message. It is all :)

I miss @kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz. Just sayin’.

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev define “compatible” 😅. On the “not addressed to me”, if I follow you, I will see your twtxts, whether they are addressed to me, or not.

@bender@twtxt.net Sure 👻👻👻

@prologic@twtxt.net please reply to this one. I want to make sure I am not seeing a ghost here. 😅

@bender@twtxt.net That’s what I’m trying to figure out 🤔

@prologic@twtxt.net what did you replied to? I am seeing disconnected twtxts, specifically from and/or replies to, Andros.

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev Curious where this root twt is?! 🤣 Apparently my pod doesn’t have it and I can’t find it anywhere. It’s suppose to be #l4doaxa

We invent docker, we invent kubernetes, we invent portainer, why we still not invent solution to migrate data volumes between hosts? :(

@bender@twtxt.net @aelaraji@aelaraji.com The client should ignore twts if it’s not compatible or not addressed to me. it’s a simple regex to add! It’s similar to Twt Hash Extension, should they be in another file? They are child messages, not flat twt. Not of course!

@prologic@twtxt.net @aelaraji@aelaraji.com It depends! If you are working with rsync and scp with the same protocol… I want to know! 😁

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev For what purpose? 🤔

@aelaraji@aelaraji.com What protocol do you use?

Am I tripping or rsync is actually THIS effing faster than scp!!? 🫨

@xuu@txt.sour.is Yeah @-mentioning@twtxt.net someone you don’t have a local alias for is broken somehow :( I haven’t looked into it yet…

@xuu@txt.sour.is Seems to be fine here?

$ bat https://twtxt.net/twt/yfv5kfq | jq '.text'
"!<dm-echo https://dm-echo.andros.dev/twtxt.txt> U2FsdGVkX1+QmwBNmk9Yu9jvazVRFPS2TGJRGle/BDDzFult6zCtxNhJrV0g+sx0EIKbjL2a9QpCT5C0Z2qWvw=="

@fastidious@tilde.town Haha 🤣

Even though I really do like the shell, I always use Dolphin to mount my digicam SD card and copy the photos onto my computer. I finally added a context menu item in Dolphin to create a forest stroll directory with the current date in order to save some typing:

Image

The following goes in ~/.local/share/kservices5/ServiceMenus/galmkdir.desktop:

[Desktop Entry]
Type=Service
X-KDE-ServiceTypes=KonqPopupMenu/Plugin,inode/directory
Actions=Waldspaziergang;

[Desktop Action Waldspaziergang]
Name=Heutigen Waldspaziergang anlegen…
Icon=folder-green
Exec=~/src/gelbariab/galmkdir "%f"

In order to update the KDE desktop cache and make this action menu item available in Dolphin, I ran:

kbuildsycoca5

The referenced galmkdir script looks like that:

#!/bin/sh
set -e

current_dir="$1"
if [ -z "$current_dir" ]; then
    echo "Usage: $0 DIRECTORY" >&2
    exit 1
fi

dir="$(kdialog \
    --geometry 350x50 \
    --title "Heutigen Waldspaziergang anlegen" \
    --inputbox "Neues Verzeichnis in „$current_dir“ anlegen:" \
    "waldspaziergang-$(date +%Y-%m-%d)")"
mkdir "$current_dir/$dir"
dolphin "$current_dir/$dir"

This solution is far from perfect, though. Ideally, I’d love to have it in the “Create New” menu instead of the “Actions” menu. But that doesn’t really work. I cannot define a default directory name, not to mention even a dynamic one with the current date. (I would have to update the .desktop file every day or so.) I also failed to create an empty directory. I somehow managed to create a directory with some other templates in it for some reason I do not really understand.

Let’s see how that works out in the next days. If I like it, I might define a few more default directory names.

@bender@twtxt.net Oooofff, I’m panting for breath when just thinking about that! I’ll immediately stop complaining. :-) I already forgot that a jacket over my jumper would have been nice. I’m happy to be cold.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I walked under 25°C during my lunch hour today, but with a sunshine that could fry an egg if dropped on the asphalt. I told a friend in Manila about it, and she told me that 25°C is Winter/Christmas temperatures for them. I felt cooler right away. :-)

We had some nice 22°C today. But after work, it got rather windy and cloudy, temps rapidly dropped so just 14°C. Still a nice stroll to our backyard mountain. https://lyse.isobeef.org/waldspaziergang-2025-04-16/

@xuu@txt.sour.is like, badly broken. I mean, the guy doesn’t even use twtxt (it is more like an RSS feed for him). So, yeah, even if it was the correct mention it would never reach the intended ears. 😂

Is this missing the <>brackets?

That is broken

@fastidious@tilde.town I see you, and your useless twtxt. :-P

@<@marado@ciberlandia.pt https://tilde.pt/~marado/twtxt.txt> Hey! do you see this? 🧐

@prologic@twtxt.net yes, same here.

@bender@twtxt.net I don’t no. I mostly just use whole themes. And my facourite it AMOLED

@prologic@twtxt.net I am just going over things. I don’t use it, do you?

@doesnm.p.psf.lt@doesnm.p.psf.lt It was always intended to have both Yarn.social and Salty.im integrate together. Yes. This includes having a set of specifications that anyone can write clients to.

@javivf@adn.org.es Generally speaking if it has been reviewed, discussed and merged, then we accept it as a standard to the set of specs we support. However we might want to document this process and set some guidelines about this to be clear 🤣 We’ve been fairly lax/lose here and I think that’s okay given teh size of our community 👌

@andros@twtxt.andros.dev @bender@twtxt.net @prologic@twtxt.net @eapl.me@eapl.me btw does twtxt dm and salty can be bridged together? iirc you planned this

New version release of twtxt-el!

• Fixed many bugs.
  
• New back buttons.
  
• Updated documentation.
  

I am currently fixing an important bug that break the timeline in some cases and I am working around direct messages.

#twtxt #twtxt-el

@bender@twtxt.net Ahhh ha!!! 🤣 I’m too dumb to have thought of that 🤣

@bender@twtxt.net Do we still want this feature? 🧐

@bender@twtxt.net Would they even accept a server from me? 🧐😂

@prologic@twtxt.net so, where is the irc.mills.io leaf, connecting to Libera? 🤭

Setting custom primary and secondary colours isn’t working. I tried “red” for first, and “orange” for second. Didn’t work.

LOL. The compact view (which has its help tooltip broken, so one can’t tell when it does) was the one causing this issue. Turned it off, and all is good.

The vp-compact.css is trumping the other.