Why do people choose Discord (the closed forum tool) over Discourse (the open forum tool)?

[I know the feature set is different, and there are pros and cons, this is mostly a rant]

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In-reply-to » @lyse Yeah, I noticed that too. I haven’t double-checked my code, though. Maybe it has something to do with selecting the correct URL? I mean, these feeds don’t have any # url = fields, so maybe that’s it?

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Haha, you were spot on! It took me a bit to figure this out on my own. I’m actually very surprised to have gotten this wrong. Oh well.

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In-reply-to » Hmmm, looks like my twt hash algorithm implementation calculates incorrect values. Might be the tilde in the URL that throws something off. :-? At least yarnd and jenny agree on a different hash.

No, I was using an empty hash URL when the feed didn’t specify a url metadata. Now I’m correctly falling back to the feed URL.

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In-reply-to » Hmmm, looks like my twt hash algorithm implementation calculates incorrect values. Might be the tilde in the URL that throws something off. :-? At least yarnd and jenny agree on a different hash.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Yeah, I noticed that too. I haven’t double-checked my code, though. Maybe it has something to do with selecting the correct URL? I mean, these feeds don’t have any # url = fields, so maybe that’s it?

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Hmmm, looks like my twt hash algorithm implementation calculates incorrect values. Might be the tilde in the URL that throws something off. :-? At least yarnd and jenny agree on a different hash.

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In-reply-to » @lyse nginx allows logging per user, via using defined variables on configuration. Not sure, though, if a Tilde would be willing to go to those “extremes”.

@bender@twtxt.net Hmm, didn’t find anything. But you mean a giant bucketload of access_log /home/$USER/logs/access.log if=… where the condition matches the requested path for said user? Yeah, that gets annoying very quickly. :-D

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In-reply-to » My goodness, a new level of stupidity.

This looks like a botnet, to be honest. The IPs are all over the place. Ethopia, Brazil, Kenya, Lebanon, Netherlands, … I mean, that’s the logical thing to do, isn’t it? Do your web crawling on infected PCs. Nobody will block those, because those are the same IP ranges as legitimate requests. And obviously you don’t have to pay for computing time.

… and they all send invalid HTTP requests, all answered with HTTP 400 … How silly.

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:blobcatcry: Zen browser changed the position of the controls of the “temporary overlapping tab thing”. I just hate the new position on the left, far from my mouse hovering over the vertical tabs on the right.

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In-reply-to » Hmm, so it seems this Mike is the one who inherited it: https://tilde.club/~deepend/, but not too active anywhere, though pinging “deepend” on Libera might work...

Reacher out to Mike on BlueSky.

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In-reply-to » Hmm, so it seems this Mike is the one who inherited it: https://tilde.club/~deepend/, but not too active anywhere, though pinging “deepend” on Libera might work...

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org nginx allows logging per user, via using defined variables on configuration. Not sure, though, if a Tilde would be willing to go to those “extremes”.

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In-reply-to » Hmm, so it seems this Mike is the one who inherited it: https://tilde.club/~deepend/, but not too active anywhere, though pinging “deepend” on Libera might work...

@bender@twtxt.net Sounds about right.

I had a brainfart yesterday, though. For whatever reason I thought of subdomains, which are modeled with server entries in nginx. So, each could define its own access_log location. However, there are no subdomains in place! Searching around, I didn’t find any solution to give each user their own access log file.

One way would be a cronjob, aeh, systemd timer as I learned the other day, that greps the main access log and writes all user access log files with only the relevant stuff.

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My goodness, a new level of stupidity.

The bots are now doing things like this:

GET http://uninformativ.de/projects/lariza/feednotify/datenstrahler/slinp/countty HTTP/1.1
  1. That URL does not exist.
  2. By including http://uninformativ.de in that request, this instructs the webserver to do an HTTP proxy request. Of course, this isn’t allowed on my webserver (and shouldn’t by allowed on any normal webserver), resulting in HTTP 400. And even if it were, the target would be the exact same server, making a proxy request unnecessary.

And of course, it’s not just 50 hits like this or 100 or 1’000 or 10’000. No, it’s over 150’000 in the last 2 days. All from vastly different IP ranges of different cloud hosters.

This almost looks like a DDoS attack, but it’s just completely stupid. This feels more like some idiot vibe coded a crawler.

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I used Gemini (the Google AI) twice at work today, asking about Google Workspace configuration and Google Cloud CLI usage (because we use those a lot). You’d think that it’d be well-suited for those topics. It answered very confidently, yet completely wrong. Just wrong. Made-up CLI arguments, whatever. It took me a while to notice, though, because it’s so convincing and, well, you implicitly and subconsciously trust the results of the Google AI when asking about Google topics, don’t you?

Will it get better over time? Maybe. But what I really want is this:

  • Good, well-structured, easy-to-read, proper documentation. Google isn’t doing too bad in this regard, actually, it’s just that they have so much stuff that it’s hard to find what you’re looking for. Hence …
  • … I want a good search function. Just give me a good fuzzy search for your docs. That’s it.

I just don’t have the time or energy to constantly second-guess this stuff. Give me something reliable. Something that is designed to do the right thing, not toy around with probabilities. “AI for everything” is just the wrong approach.

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In-reply-to » Android shopping list apps disappointed me too many times, so I went back to writing these lists by hand a while ago.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Well, they say you have to build up stocks, don’t they? 😅

The font is fiamf3 (scaled up 2x, it would be too small when printed). It’s the same one that I use in my terminal and the status bars. 😃

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In-reply-to » (#5ara5ka) @lyse There’s a couple of new users on https://tilde.club, but since this is a shared host, I doubt that they have access to their access.log files. Hence they’ll never see followers, unless we notify them out of band. 🫤

I spent a few mins on teh tilde website, and for the life of me I can’t find a way to contact anyone responsible/accountable for this wonderful little service 🤣

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In-reply-to » (#5ara5ka) @lyse There’s a couple of new users on https://tilde.club, but since this is a shared host, I doubt that they have access to their access.log files. Hence they’ll never see followers, unless we notify them out of band. 🫤

I mean, granting everyone read access, maybe?

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In-reply-to » (#5ara5ka) @lyse There’s a couple of new users on https://tilde.club, but since this is a shared host, I doubt that they have access to their access.log files. Hence they’ll never see followers, unless we notify them out of band. 🫤

@prologic@twtxt.net that would certainly help a lot. I can’t think of a solution, though.

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In-reply-to » (#5ara5ka) @lyse There’s a couple of new users on https://tilde.club, but since this is a shared host, I doubt that they have access to their access.log files. Hence they’ll never see followers, unless we notify them out of band. 🫤

Is it worth me reaching out to the operator and helping build some solution for their userbase to detect followers? 🧐

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In-reply-to » It is harder to regain ownership of an IRC channel than crossing the Mexico/US border. 😅

@bender@twtxt.net Hahaha! :-D But I actually do like their approach. I don’t know what staff should do differently when they are not involved in the channel topic. At least in the general case. Maybe in this specific scenario here they could have cross-checked domains, git repos and stuff like that. But I also reckon that it’s only fair if they treat everybody the same.

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In-reply-to » Android shopping list apps disappointed me too many times, so I went back to writing these lists by hand a while ago.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Wow, that’s a hell lot of food! If it doesn’t spoil, it’s easily enough for the rest of your life and all your neighbors and surrounding cities, probably more. :-D

That’s a great font. I like it. It just suits the print style incredibly well. No offence, to the absolute contrary, I would not have thought that you actually designed that. It looks just so right. Hats off! :-)

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In-reply-to » Lol, YouTube supports increasing the playback speed, but when you want to go to 4x, they want you to pay extra:

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Have we reached peak enshittification yet?

YouTube is completely broken for me for a week or more. The player doesn’t even load anymore. Trying to limit the search results to real videos doesn’t do shit, etc. It’s useless. But downloading the videos with yt-dlp still works like a dream.

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In-reply-to » (#5ara5ka) @lyse There’s a couple of new users on https://tilde.club, but since this is a shared host, I doubt that they have access to their access.log files. Hence they’ll never see followers, unless we notify them out of band. 🫤

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Actually, @threatcat@tilde.club popped up in my own access log first. That’s how I discovered the feed. :-) So I figured that this feed author actually sees my reply. The hope is that with the next mention of my feed in threatcat’s feed, the other tilde users, who are following threatcat, are then also informed of my existence. :-)

I don’t know how tilde.club is set up. But it should be relatively easy to give all users access to their nginx access logs. Not sure if somebody already requested that or not. But I’d encourage tilde users to ask for that. Maybe also just for twtxt.txt and/or in a custom, reduced log format.

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Android shopping list apps disappointed me too many times, so I went back to writing these lists by hand a while ago.

Here’s what’s more fun: Write them in Vim and then print them on the dotmatrix printer. 🥳

And, because I can, I use my own font for that, i.e. ImageMagick renders an image file and then a little tool converts that to ESC/P so I can dump it to /dev/usb/lp0.

(I have so much scrap paper from mail spam lying around that I don’t feel too bad about this. All these sheets would go straight to the bin otherwise.)

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In-reply-to » Thank you for https://www.uninformativ.de/blog/postings/2025-11-09/0/POSTING-en.html, @movq! I never configured systemd timers, but I would have gotten it wrong, too. Good to know when I eventually stumble across that in the future. I'm still using cron. Yeah, its field order sucks and I always have to look it up (because I don't deal with that all that often). Indeed, systemd's order sounds more reasonable.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Yeah, I’m glad I’m not the only one who didn’t get this right. 😅 You never had to configure a systemd timer? Lucky. 😅

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In-reply-to » Thank you for the encouragement and love and kind words, @lyse @movq @bender @doesnm and others along the way I'm not sure of their feed uris 💕 I'll keep at it, but for the time being I will keep my distance, mostly off IRC, because I don't have the energy to spare in that kind of engagement (what//if the worst happens, it's so draining). I need to remember what I ever did any of this for, it was back in ~2020 and I wanted really to build small interconnected communities that any non "tech savvy" person (more or less) could also benefit from ane enjoy. Even if there are aspects of the specs we've built/extended over time that aren't "perfect"™, they're "good enough"™ that they've last 5+ years (I believe this is 6 years running now). I want to spend a bit of time going back to why I did any of this in the the first place, and get a little micro-SaaS offering going (barely covering running costs) so encourage more folks to run pods, and thus twtxt feeds and grow the community ever so slightly. Other than that, I plan to get the specs "in order" to a point (with @movq and @lyse's help) where I hope they'll stand the test of time -- like SMTP.

@prologic@twtxt.net all I can say or, rather, express is…

Leonardo cheers!

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Thank you for the encouragement and love and kind words, @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org @movq@www.uninformativ.de @bender@twtxt.net @doesnm@doesnm.p.psf.lt and others along the way I’m not sure of their feed uris 💕 I’ll keep at it, but for the time being I will keep my distance, mostly off IRC, because I don’t have the energy to spare in that kind of engagement (what//if the worst happens, it’s so draining). I need to remember what I ever did any of this for, it was back in ~2020 and I wanted really to build small interconnected communities that any non “tech savvy” person (more or less) could also benefit from ane enjoy. Even if there are aspects of the specs we’ve built/extended over time that aren’t “perfect”™, they’re “good enough”™ that they’ve last 5+ years (I believe this is 6 years running now). I want to spend a bit of time going back to why I did any of this in the the first place, and get a little micro-SaaS offering going (barely covering running costs) so encourage more folks to run pods, and thus twtxt feeds and grow the community ever so slightly. Other than that, I plan to get the specs “in order” to a point (with @movq@www.uninformativ.de and @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org’s help) where I hope they’ll stand the test of time – like SMTP.

Thank you all ! 🙏

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In-reply-to » I should work on my client again and add some new features. Like adding a new feed directly in the client and not having to go to the config first. And showing a preview of a feed before actually adding it. Also, a search would be something to add. And finally combining my User-Agent analyzer with my subscription list to spot new feeds automatically.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org an advent of code, I love it! Go, Lyse, go!

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Thank you for https://www.uninformativ.de/blog/postings/2025-11-09/0/POSTING-en.html, @movq@www.uninformativ.de! I never configured systemd timers, but I would have gotten it wrong, too. Good to know when I eventually stumble across that in the future. I’m still using cron. Yeah, its field order sucks and I always have to look it up (because I don’t deal with that all that often). Indeed, systemd’s order sounds more reasonable.

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I should work on my client again and add some new features. Like adding a new feed directly in the client and not having to go to the config first. And showing a preview of a feed before actually adding it. Also, a search would be something to add. And finally combining my User-Agent analyzer with my subscription list to spot new feeds automatically.

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In-reply-to » I just successfully used my own SnipMail service with a real business, whoohoo! 🥳

@prologic@twtxt.net @movq@www.uninformativ.de Same here, I give each service a dedicated e-mail address. It’s very interesting to see how e-mail addresses are transferred to other actors. Luckily, this only happens rarely. But it does happen. In surprising ways.

Aliases not only help to fight spam, but are also a great way to specify filter rules to sort e-mails.

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