🕧 Hi, the current time is about a half past midnight 🌛.

I’m out of town folks and away until tomorrow (have been all week)

Little Lost Robot - Asimov short story. (1962)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-RX1GT4GT0

I know it doesn’t need to be said, but “Texudus” is not twtxt. It is an attempt to create a, arguably, “better way™️”. 🤭

@zvava@twtxt.net ah, yes, that’s the only Texudus feed. It also seems it is a one way only feed.

@bender@twtxt.net https://andros.dev/texudus.txt, its url doesn’t correspond to the feed either

@zvava@twtxt.net which Texodus feed? That I know of, there is only one, or am I wrong?

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org @movq@www.uninformativ.de bbycll’s nickname regex is /^([-_\p{N}\p{L}])+$/iu because i don’t like how english-centric only allowing ascii letters/numbers is though this only applies to local users as of now, currently all nicknames are tolerated when parsing remote feeds and i just do mentions how yarn does (just the feed url)

in the wild, i’ve noticed a texedus feed with spaces in the nick (where its spec explicitly disallows whitespace in the nick) and feeds with other symbols in the nick too. honestly, i think we should just tolerate arbitrary nicknames for sake of user expression (while stripping or converting unreasonable characters) and just leave them out of mentions

Sometimes, I wonder how my desktop looks to other people. Normal sighted people, I mean. For me, everything is much smaller and always slightly blurry (almost antialiased) because of my eyesight.

Maybe it does look horribly pixelated and super ugly to other people, and that’s why everyone prefers smoothed fonts and UIs and all that … ? 😂

@zvava@twtxt.net @movq@www.uninformativ.de I’m not entirely sure about the spaces, but maybe they were omitted to simplify parsing of mentions in the form of @<nick url>. If the next token after the @<nick does not look like a URL, it’s not a mention but regular text. This is just wild guessing, though.

Looking at the regex and tests in the original twtxt reference implementation seems to confirm that theory in the sense as it relies on whitespace as the delimiter:

https://lyse.isobeef.org/tmp/screenshot-2025-09-17-21-30-25.png

Another thing about nicks is that the original twtxt reference implementation converts nicks to all lowercase:

https://lyse.isobeef.org/tmp/screenshot-2025-09-17-21-20-39.png

You probably know this already, the original twtxt file format specification can be found here: https://twtxt.readthedocs.io/en/latest/user/twtxtfile.html

As for extensions, I don’t know of anything outside of twtxt.dev that has actually been (partially) implemented. However, there is also the issue tracker of the official reference implementation. You might wanna dig through that. For example, there is an alternative suggestions of multiline messages: https://github.com/buckket/twtxt/issues/157

Speaking of Sudoku, I was banging my head against this for 15 minutes:

https://sudokupad.app/adventure/94-advvvvvvvven

I’m glad I eventually got it right. 🥴

(via https://dosgame.club/@Tijn/115221132694421937)

@arne@uplegger.eu Hm, noch nie gemacht. 🤔 Machst du das von Hand oder mit Code?

@zvava@twtxt.net Good question. This is the spec, I think:

https://twtxt.dev/exts/metadata.html#nick

It doesn’t say much. 🤔

In the wild, I’ve only seen “traditional” nick names, i.e. ASCII 0x21 thru 0x7E.

My client removes anything but r'[a-zA-Z0-9]' from nick names.

is there consensus on what characters should(n’t) be allowed in nicks? i remember reading somewhere whitespace should not be allowed, but i don’t see it in the spec on twtxt.dev — in fact, are there any other resources on twtxt extensions outside of twtxt.dev?

Pqp! A carteira de trabalho digital, um aplicativo do governo brasileiro, fazendo propaganda de um curso de IA. Quero socar (metaforicamente) todos que aprovaram e executaram essa palhaçada!

For what I can gather, kind of a waste of time, not a good solution. I might be missing bits, or may haven’t grasp the entire “story”.

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz, see this one, regarding “Anubis” (which I believe you use, right?): https://github.com/eternal-flame-AD/pow-buster

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz, this one, regarding “Anubis” (which I believe you use, right?): https://github.com/eternal-flame-AD/pow-buster

@rrraksamam@twtxt.net someone has a huge crush on Emily Blunt, eh? 🤭

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You can still help sponsor the Brazilian national #Python conference!
You can also donate a ticket so that a student can attend!
#PythonBrasil2025

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@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Omg, that is great. 😃

@zvava@twtxt.net There would be only one hash for a message. Some to be defined magic date selects which hash to use. If the message creation timestamp is before this epoch, hash it with v1, otherwise hammer it through v2. Eventually, support for v1 could be dropped as nobody interacts with the old stuff anymore. But I’d keep it around in my client, because why not.

If users choose a client which supports the extensions, they don’t have to mess around with v1 and v2 hashing, just like today.

As for the school of thought, personally, I’d prefer something else, too. I’m in camp location-based addressing, or whatever it is called. There more I think about it, a complete redesign of twtxt and its extensions would be necessary in my opinion. Retrofitting has its limits. Of course, this is much more work, though.

@thecanine@twtxt.net Id like that too, it just can’t come from me, because native mobile dev just isn’t my thing 😢

@zvava@twtxt.net And yes yarnd does have a well documented API and two clients (CLI and unmaintained Flutter App)

@zvava@twtxt.net We can do that 👌

I’m happy to report, after the successful remix of System Of A Down with the Nooran Sisters from India in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi106DZJhuQ I stumbled across something almost equally great from Pakistan, Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZYG-9usGPI It’s a banger! The girls are unmatched, though.

@shizamura obrigadinho por me pores a música do imakuni na cabeça anos depois, eu que já pensava estar livre desse calvário

Warum ist es nur so kniffelig ein Sudoku-Rätsel zu erstellen?
Ich meine nicht, das Erstellen eines komplett ausgefüllten Sets, sondern das Leeren der Felder so, dass ein einigermaßen herausforderndes Sudoku mit nur einer Lösungsmöglichkeit entsteht. 🤔

@zvava@twtxt.net Not much of a known fact these days, but thereused to be a Yarn phone app (https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/app), last version released 5 or so years ago, but it still suggests, it has to be somewhat feasable, to make another one. I don’t think anyone tried since, because the web version works well on phones, but I’m still hoping, we get a more native phone experience, one day.

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org i dont mind if the hash is not backward compatible but im not sure if this is the right way to proceed because the added complexity dealing with two hash versions isnt justified

regular end users wont care to understand how twt hashes are formed, they just want to use twtxt! so i guess i could work in protecting users from themselves by disallowing post edits on old posts or posts with replies, but i’m not fond of this either really. if they want to break a thread, they can just delete the post (though i’ve noticed yarn handling post deletes dubiously…)

on activitypub i do genuinely find myself looking through several month or even year old posts sometimes and deciding to edit/reword them a little to be slightly less confusing, this should be trivial to handle on twtxt which is an infinitely simpler specification

@bender@twtxt.net @thecanine@twtxt.net well now this has me thinking abt the feasibility of making an android twtxt app for pods, the actual apis of pods would have to be standardized (or the fucked up way that activitypub does it, where the “mastodon api” is the defacto client api (does yarn even have an api reference?)) or the client is just simply..a client..but editing feeds via PUT, PATCH, DELETE etc. is standardized!…? (not to mention i dont even know where to begin making an android app lmao)

Wanting to add, this isn’t a twtxt client. It is Yarnd on steroids! 😂

@thecanine@twtxt.net it should work everywhere. It is a web application.

@zvava@twtxt.net love the direction this is heading, hope this soon evolves into a basic Android app, usable with any instance.

What a crazy color temperature this yellow orange was in person! Sick lighting this evening: https://lyse.isobeef.org/abendhimmel-2025-09-15/

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@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I didn’t know they had a name, to be honest. When I/we last had a dot matrix printer, I just sat alone in the basement and made these. 😂

@bender@twtxt.net Sigh. So it’s just me. Again. 😂

Adding too this. The configuration example at the repository reads:

{
	"nick": "Example",
	"description": "alice's twtxt instance!",
	"host": "twtxt.example.com",
	"admin": "alice"
}

Would it make more sense changing nick to instance_name or similar? Usually nick is reserved for users, like here, quark. Right? Also, is host the same FQDN to be used while proxying traffic to the application? That is, using the above configuration, it’s Caddy configuration would be:

twtxt.example.com {
	encode
	reverse_proxy :31212
}

Is that correct?

Hmm, twtxt Yarn is misbehaving. Can’t even edit, nor delete. Oh well.

On the configuration topic, the example at the repo reads like this:

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Hmm, not experiencing that. Using Zen (Firefox), under Linux, with uBlock Origin.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Luckily, I had a grep -v git at the end, so my repo is still in working order. Phew. I wish find had grep-like --exclude-dir and --exclude options (or the include variants) instead of its own weird options that I never can remember and combine properly.

@movq@www.uninformativ.de Nice Jacob’s ladder. ;-) I had to look up this term, I also found Zig Zag. What do you folks call this in your languages? In German, it’s Hexentreppe (lit. Witch’s Staircase).

@zvava@twtxt.net It is just completely impossible to make v2 backwards-compatible with v1.

Well, breaking threads on edits is considered a feature by some people. I reckon the only approach to reasonably deal with that property is to carefully review messages before publishing them, thus delaying feed updates. Any typos etc., that have been discovered afterwards, are just left alone. That’s what I and some others do. I only risk editing if the feed has been published very few seconds earlier. More than 20 seconds and I just ignore it. Works alright for the most part.

Next level poop: Can’t log in to reddit anymore with adblock enabled. It says invalid usename or password.

I “created two issues” today on #Processing, no I didn’t introduce new bugs I just wrote two bug reports :)

https://github.com/processing/processing4/issues/1243

https://github.com/processing/processing4/issues/1244

#SVG #LinuxXFCE

mobile navigation bar :3

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Yeah, I’ve corrupted a Git repo or two doing that … 🥴

@zvava@twtxt.net I was about to suggest that you post some examples. By now, we’re pretty good at debugging hashing issues, because that happens so often. 😂 But it looks like you figured it out on your own. ✌️

wait why are so many of my post hashes not generating correctly ;w;

edit: i read the spec wrong :3 only +/-00:00 is stripped, not the entire timezone offset >.<

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org 🙈😂

@prologic@twtxt.net im unsure how i feel about the hash v2 proposal, given it is completely backward incompatible with hash v1 it doesn’t really solve any of the problems with it. it only delays collisions, and still fragments threads on post edits

i skimmed through discussions under other the proposals — i agree humans are very bad at keeping the integrity of the web in tact, but hashes in done in this way make it impossible even for systems to rebuild threads if any post edits have occurred prior to their deployment

@zvava@twtxt.net that makes it even more so exciting! 😂

I corrupted my SQLite test database with sed -i s/… $(find …). Clearly, I found too many files. That’s the signal to go to bed.

«… It all went well until 1980 or so, when Ronald Reagan appointed a new head of the EPA. The lady didn’t like her stationery we had designed and with a simple “I want my daisy back” undermined the overall graphic system. If the Queen doesn’t like it, we don’t like it became the attitude, and the program began to crumble. The old logo was fully reinstated and the graphic system was abandoned. A decade later, nobody at the EPA could find a copy of the Graphic Standards System, except a bunch of legalese that you will find on its website.

I’m a fan of the EPA and all its efforts and hope that we helped in some small way for this agency to communicate within itself, to other government agencies, and with the American people. I’m very grateful and appreciative that Jesse Reed and Hamish Smyth of Standards Manual, and Julie Anixter of AIGA, brought this document to life again. Have fun revisiting.»
(from the introduction by Steff Geissbühler)

«1977 United States Environmental
Protection Agency
Graphic Standards System

Designed by Steff Geissbühler,
Chermayeff & Geismar Associates

The EPA Graphic Standards System is one of the finest examples of a standards manual ever created. The modular and flexible system devised raised the standard for public design in the United States.

The book features a foreword by Tom Geismar, introduction by Steff Geissbühler, an essay by Christopher Bonanos, scans of the original manual (from Geissbühler’s personal copy), and 48 pages of photographs from the EPA-commissioned Documerica project (1970–1977).»

https://standardsmanual.com/products/epa

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Can’t resist.

https://movq.de/v/2a7918d719/a.jpg

@prologic@twtxt.net I completely forgot about that topic … 😂🥴

@zvava@twtxt.net oh?! I shall play more “seriously” with it soon then. Yay!

Should I make more T-shirts?

https://villares-shop.fourthwall.com/

https://umapenca.com/villares/

#Python #Processing #py5 #CreativeCoding #FLOSS #numpy #shapely #trimesh

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@zvava@twtxt.net The first version of what is now yarnd was built over a weekend 😀

@zvava@twtxt.net Herw you go: https://git.mills.io/yarnsocial/twtxt.dev/pulls/28

@zvava@twtxt.net For the time being, just show both.

wait….so i’m like nearly done? it just works? and it’s fast? this feels like the end of the first all-nighter i pulled where i just got post creation done, unaware of the three weeks that would follow — like looking at the roadmap i’m definitely not done but bbycll is like actually kind of usable now o.o

PR is up for review though 🤞

@zvava@twtxt.net we have to amend the spec and increase the hash length. We just haven’t done so yet 😆

ok so i have found a genuine twt hash collision. what do i do.

internally, bbycll relies on a post lookup table with post hashes as keys, this is really fast but i knew i’d inevitably run into this issue (just not so soon) so now i have to either:
  1) pick the newer post over the other
  2) break from specification and not lowercase hashes
  3) secretly associate canonical urls or additional entropy with post hashes in the backend without a sizeable performance impact somehow

@prologic@twtxt.net excellent, mate, that’s what we like to read! Enjoy the weekend!

Great. Yet another messed up plain text e-mail part. The URL was actually HTML-escaped. Took me five attempts to figure this out, because of course it had to be several kilometers long. In fact, the e-mail stated: “Please do not be surprised that the link is particularly long. It contains your personal configuration.”

A normal person is completely lost (that’s why I got involved). Visting the broken URL opens a popup dialog suggesting to deactivate script blockers. Which I had already done upfront as a matter of prudence.

Fun bonus on top: The JWT in the link has identical iat (issued at) and exp (expiry) claims. The expiry is definitely not checked, it’s well in the past.

Medical software just has to be horrible. It’s a law.

Thanks, @thecanine@twtxt.net. It’s completely horizontal, I don’t see any diagonals. Anyway, it’s great art, happy drawing!

Today is a good day! Took my daughter to art class, got a beard trim, wife is awesome and we’re all doing great 🤞🍀

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz @kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz Pretty sure I have many more mentions in the database than the one and only one I see hmmm 🤔 – I’ll have a look at the code when I can and the SQL query it’s using

@bender@twtxt.net interesting 🤔🤔

@bender@twtxt.net yayyyy!!!

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org no, as mentioned this “diagonal arrow” eye shape, is usually used for a smug expression. The optional white part, is in this case, where the dogs sclera would be visible, while they have their eyes, like this.
Here is a comparison between a real dog, making the face it is based on, and the exaggerated drawn version.

Hahaha, @bender@twtxt.net, you’re just the best with the words! :-D I love it.

@thecanine@twtxt.net Yeah, what @bender@twtxt.net said. That tail is sick. Is this dog crying, though? The vertically elongated eye looks a bit like a tear running down.

@thecanine@twtxt.net super well done! I especially love that tail. I can almost see it moving!

Drawn based on a quick doodle, the canine returns victorious, from the battle of Hot Topic bargain bin, as smug as can be.
Whoever will be the first to inform him, the spikes aren’t real gold and it’s most likely not even leather, meaning it’s not what he’s really been searching the universe for, better prepare themselves, to be jumped on, bitten and shredded by claws.

@bender@twtxt.net Absolutely. My computer science teacher was really great and in a lot of aspects very similar. Especially combining the theoretical and practical parts. He’s also the main reason I ended up where I am today. I’m very grateful to him. Mr. Burger, however, takes this on a whole new level.

We just had some lovely colors again: https://lyse.isobeef.org/abendhimmel-2025-09-12/

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@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz hey, hey, good afternoon, happy Friday! Fandom site tag pages count. Word!

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz nope, not normal. Something birdy (because why to use fishy all the time?!) is going on.

is it normal for my yarn pod mentions tab to be totally empty because it’s been like this from the start

good afternoon yarnverse i have done nothing productive so far. except edit my fandom site a little bit (i added tag pages!). does that count lol

@zvava@twtxt.net this is so cool…

@zvava@twtxt.net please be sure to get enough rest!!! you’ll be able to make something even better if you’re well rested :)

@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org that’s an amazing way to teach, and one many old school (I remember my father telling me “schools need to teach both theoretical and practical skills!”) people will agree with. The fact that graduates need to learn on the job after they graduate exemplifies the importance of hands on.

A culinária desta casa é cada vez mais definida pelo YouTube, são os tempos

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Woooooaaaahh, that’s bloody amazing! I wish I’d had a teacher like that.

English version: https://youtu.be/wi_q6IythMk
German version: https://youtu.be/2Lv1MMlFDBs

@kat@yarn.girlonthemoon.xyz The duck was in a darker spot, so my camera wasn’t all that happy with the lighting. Upon further inspection, you’re right, now that you pointed it out, I can see it too! The feathers do look like an oil painting. ;-)

@bender@twtxt.net Sadly, it’s super relevant. It’s a really good sketch. I’m actually surprised you know this German series. :-)

@zvava@twtxt.net Yeah, mentions are a great way to discover other feeds.

Regarding the “look at this, but I don’t want to add anything at all”, this never happened to me. Apparently, it seems to be a thing for others.

Woot, thank you! Using a config.json like this:

{
  "host": "localhost:31212",
  "protocols": ["http"]
}

Indeed did the trick! I know it isn’t production ready, but I wanted to see with my own eyes, locally, how did it look. :-) I like where you are going! It is looking very nice, and polished. Can’t wait for an alpha, beta, and release!

@zvava@twtxt.net it is amazing how much you have accomplished in such a short time. Take time to sleep, though! :-)

we are now parsing and recursively fetching remote feeds somewhat successfully, gotta work on the media proxy and markdown way more, so so many fucky edgecases….my friend’s feed with like four posts parsed correctly so i tried this account’s feed and well now im not going to bed on time

edit: remaking demo video

we are now parsing and recursively fetching remote feeds somewhat successfully, gotta work on the media proxy and markdown way more, so so many fucky edgecases….my friend’s feed with like four posts parsed correctly so i tried this account’s feed and well now im not going to bed on time

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such a good cover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49BQQ8OgDCM

@zvava@twtxt.net huh interesting!