@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Ohh, lovely shots of that bird. 😊 That’s so close to the camera, are you hiding behind something? Or is the bird just not that shy?
@prologic@twtxt.net Oh dear, get well soon. 😨
yarnd
, tt
, jenny
, twtr
and other clients? 🤔 Thinking about (and talking with @xuu on IRC) about the possibility of rewriting a completely new spec (no extensions). Proposed name yarn.txt
or "Yarn". Compatibility would remain with Twtxt in the sense that we wouldn't break anything per se, but we'd divorce ourselves from Twtxt and be free to improve based on the needs of the community and not the ideals of those that don't use, contribute in the first place or fixate on nostalgia (which doesn't really help anyone).
@prologic@twtxt.net I’m very ambivalent on this. At the same time, I’m exhausted from work and life in general. 😅 I can’t form coherent thoughts at the moment. Maybe tomorrow. Or at the weekend.
@xuu@txt.sour.is @prologic@twtxt.net Yarn.social without threading (as it would be the case in a “truncated” feed) does not make sense to me.
Put another way: Yarn.social is not twtxt. The content that we all have in our feeds really is much closer to a web forum or usenet or whatever. It’s threaded conversations. twtxt, as I believe it was originally intended, are short little status updates – that’s it. The formats of Yarn.social and twtxt might be very similar, but the content is vastly different and, in a way, incompatible. (As such, I think I understand very well that the original twtxt crowd is disgruntled.)
That proposed truncated feed doesn’t really provide any value, if you ask me. 🤔 It’d just be chaotic.
Found a magician: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LUZI8lMpZY
Seatbelts and cars are so much simpler than software. It is easy to see that you might crash your car into a tree and that a belt will help you here (if you’re going slow enough, yadda yadda).
If I write a library for a compression algorithm, how can I ever prepare for someone using this in, I don’t know, a medical device in a hospital, but then my code has a bug, crashes that device and a person dies? There are so many more indirections here than with cars and seatbelts. It is completely out of my control.
Anyway, I think we both made our points clear. I’m out, cheers! 👋 🥃
Yeah, we probably have to agree to disagree here.
I still think it would be better to put the burden of liability on the users – no matter if they’re private individuals or big companies. (And isn’t that already the case? Do we even have to solve a legal liability problem? Not talking about software quality here, that’s a whole other issue.)
Trust me, if people got sued or went to jail, the tech industry would figure out really fast how to make these determinations.
Yeah, they would. It’s simple: No more free software, no more publicly available projects. The only software that would ever exist is software made by large corporations who can afford the appropriate insurances and lawyers.
What you’re proposing is either classifying software in advance as “dangerous” or “harmless” (I’d argue that’s impossible – as an extreme, think of libraries, they’d all be “potentially dangerous”), or threatening free software projects with lawsuits if, at some point in the future, these projects caused an accident.
Why would anyone publish free software or contribute to it under these conditions?
Why should open source software development be any different?
IMHO because you can make software publicly available and anyone can use it for whatever they want, which the author has zero control over.
Anyway, have a good night, I’m gonna enjoy a couple of movies now. 👋 😊
@prologic@twtxt.net Looks like here’s a markdown rendering bug. That last part (“How do you really know …”) is not part of the quoted text. 🤔
Firstly, contributing software to an open source project cannot be a blanket “get out of jail free” card. That’s a sociopathic stance, on its face, and just cannot be accepted.
I don’t understand. Why is that sociopathic? (Language barrier here? I really don’t get what you mean.)
But thirdly, […] And the same should happen in software. […]
How do you really know if a project has been used in dangerous situations? (If this changes in the future, are programmers that contributed in the past – when this project was not yet used in dangerous situations – also liable?)
@abucci@anthony.buc.ci Many (most?) licenses in the world of free software explicitly deny any liability (is that how you say it in English? I think you know what I mean). So, if a user still uses that software for “potentially dangerous” things, who’s to blame? The software? Or the user?
We Germans always have to make an analogy with cars 😅, so here you go: If there’s a guy on the street offering you a car and he says, “oh, maybe it’ll drive, maybe it’ll explode, who knows – either way, the risk is yours, I’m just offering it”, you might still be interested in using that car for certain things. But you wouldn’t use it as an ambulance car or a taxi or whatever. Or you might actually do that after carefully inspecting it and/or fixing some things.
So, if there actually are any liability issues here in the current laws – I know nothing about that field, especially not when it comes to corporations –, I think this should be fixed at the user’s end. You run a hospital? Then there are certain standards for you and you’re liable for certain things. If that implies that you can no longer use, say, nginx, then that’s not nginx’s problem, but yours.
I would argue that you cannot hold programmers liable if they contribute to a free software project that is publicly available, because you don’t know how this software is going to be used.
(Plus, I have a hard time imagining how you as a programmer could prove that you’ve done a good job. What’s the criterium here? Clearly, it can’t be “no bugs ever”. So, what is it, “no damage above 1000 dollars” or something like that? What does the EU thingy say here?)
Three hours of pool practice today. 👌 🎱
@prologic@twtxt.net Yes. 🥴
@prologic@twtxt.net Well, here is a super-condensed version of it:
http://www.macscouter.com/stories/ShaggyShorts.asp#The%20Lever
Interestingly, it looks like it goes back to the 1950ies: https://www.reddit.com/r/NateTheSnake/comments/qobeny/tracing_nates_history/
@prologic@twtxt.net I guess you skipped over the important bit then. %)
@eldersnake@we.loveprivacy.club Ah, right, I forgot about that issue. Looks like this got resolved in libXft a while ago: https://lists.suckless.org/dev/2209/34965.html
@stigatle@yarn.stigatle.no Oh yeah. It’s sad that smartphones and tablets pushed netbooks out of the market. They were great, proper keyboard, proper connectors, …
Oh dear. Starting/quitting st is so much faster and snappier, it almost feels like I bought a new computer. :|
I started using st as a terminal emulator, so you might see a decline in my use of colored emojis. :)
I previously used xiate, which is based on GTK and VTE – and that’s the problem. Sooner or later, it’ll have to be ported from GTK 3 to GTK 4 and that’s not looking too good at the moment. GTK 4 is too slow. I’m not yet convinced that I have to give up xiate, but I still want to see how well st works for me.
Brilliant (“joke, very long”): https://natethesnake.com/
@jlj@twt.nfld.uk Congrats, but, uhm, how does this work? Who’s the guy on the left? Do they hold a little ceremony like that for everyone who gets citizenship?! 😳
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org That’s cruel. 🥴
I guess this is something that you guys might enjoy as well: Jonna Enckell’s solo work. It’s a bit hard to find, though, and you can’t really buy it … Apparently, she didn’t make it big time. ☹️ (Jonna was the singer of a Death Metal band once, it was a glorious combination.) // Siren On - Glitter and Die // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkk6386SJwI #NowPlaying
@prx@si3t.ch jenny tutorial: https://www.uninformativ.de/blog/postings/2021-09-19/0/POSTING-en.html
I thought Germany was a pretty progressive country 🤔
Doesn’t feel like that to me, but of course it depends on which country you’re comparing us to. 😅
I didn’t follow this closely (because I lost all hope when it comes to Germans and their cars), but it looks like this e-fuel stuff is mostly the result of the efforts of one party? Or maybe the others like it too and just blame that party for it. 🤣
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Ohh, magnificent bird. 😍
It even made it into german mainstream news: https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/libanon-zeitumstellung-101.html
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I see, curious. 🤔 I’ve never seen anyone but the “official” wastepaper trucks collect this stuff over here. It’s all organized by the city.
Timezone chaos in Lebanon:
- DST postponed, just a couple of days before it would have started: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2023-March/032746.html
- Chaos ensues, not all people respect the decision: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2023-March/032752.html
- Central bank to use two timezones: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2023-March/032753.html
🍿
Stuck at home these last few days, sick. Can’t do a lot except … watching pool. Lots of it. 🤣
Some of my highlights:
- Seoa Seo vs. Earl Strickland (who’s somewhat grumpy, who would have thought): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xKfIuDVgug I really like her style of playing, very clean, very controlled.
- Chezka Centeno (my goodness, she plays like a machine gun 😂) vs. Margaret Fefilofa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XX_qgVB5sc
- Margaret commentates on Shane van Boening vs. Martin Daigle (exciting match): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAeDQidWSGY It’s great when active players like Margaret commentate, gives you more insight.
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org I presume that’s not what’s happening by default when people throw it away, right? 🤔
@prologic@twtxt.net https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solstice 😅
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org What’s going to happen with that paper now? 🤔
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Frühlingsanfang ist, wenn die Luftfeuchtigkeit nach dem Lüften höher ist als vorher. 😏
Is there a special meaning behind those hearts? Or just something that kids make these days?
(To avoid misunderstandings: It might sound like he’s saying the N word, but it’s “mega” with a german accent. Just so we’re clear on that.)
Too bad non-native speakers (probably) cannot appreciate this beauty … 😂 // We Butter The Bread With Butter - NICE // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E49Qrhdk2cI #NowPlaying
@logout@i-logout.cz Oof, let us know how that goes. 😅 I only remember REXX very very vaguely, I only saw it as a kid every now and then … Are there any REXX interpreters for modern operating systems? Or are you simply doing it one, say, OS/2?
(… because I don’t really have an informed opinion about ActivityPub nor Mastodon, so I can’t contribute anything meaningful …)
@prologic@twtxt.net Yeah, I know. 😅 For now, I just sit back and watch. 😂
@mckinley@twtxt.net I’ll be completely honest: For a split second, I was already thinking “ah screw it, I’ll just use Mastodon now”. 😅
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org 03.jpg is pretty good, though, you can see nice structures on the feathers. 👌
It’s hard to make good photos of black birds. I guess you’d have to drag them into a studio. 😅
@marado@twtxt.net Oh dear, that’s crazy. 😳 There are so many different and elaborate ways to make a coffee, my goodness. 😀
The upper container might get pretty messy, right? I’m looking at this picture: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_coffee_maker#/media/File:Vacuumcoffeestep7.jpg
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org But but, aren’t you a programmer? I thought programmers were machines that convert coffee into code! 🤯 😅
@marado@tilde.pt Now what is that? 😳 Disclaimer, I am not a coffee nerd. I know next to nothing about it. 😅
I never owned a coffee maker, because … I don’t really know exactly 😅, but one of the reasons is that I’m too lazy to properly clean and maintain these machines. So, I was just drinking tea at home and coffee only at the office (where we have big fancy machines). Recently, a friend told me about a super simple way to make coffee:

Put in a filter, put in the coffee, pour water over it, done. The only “machine” required is something to heat up the water. Hardly any cleaning involved.
I love this low-tech approach.
Now I just have to learn more about it, buy better beans and all that. 😅
@lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Looks nice and can be quite entertaining to walk in, but it also caused quite a bit of damage: https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/rheinland-pfalz/sturm-rlp-stromausfall-ludwigshafen-100.html I wasn’t affected, luckily. (I’m just waiting for my windows to burst, though. 😂)
@prologic@twtxt.net I think the high score at work was something like 28’000 unread mails … Not my inbox, somebody else’s. Mine is at zero, too. 😂
(IIRC, when they tried to mark all those as “read”, it broke our Google Mail for a while. 🤦)
Yeah, let’s wait another 5, 6, 7 years or so. 😅 I mean, the kid has to go to school and stuff. 😅
@prologic@twtxt.net @lyse@lyse.isobeef.org Maybe … but probably not. 😅